More Media Lies

Bill Sloman · Dec 16, 2012

On 16 Dec, 17:15, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:43:50 -0500, "P E Schoen" <p...@peschoen.com> wrote:

James Arthur wrote in message
news:18c1a9aa-4667-492a-8468-3fdfa33a488c@a2g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

It doesn't help that the media's making the dead guy a big celebrity /
anti-hero. That's why they do it. The media encourages these things,
more than anything else.

It was revealed that the mother had the weapons for self-protection against
the feared collapse of the economy and ensuing civil war, which is
perpetrated by the radical right-wing media and dangerously delusional
nutters like Jim Thompson. People who snap and go on rampages such as this
most recent tragedy usually exhibit signs of instability, and make
pronouncements of their intentions in advance. It seems that Thompson has
been doing that a lot lately, and he freely provides his address, as if he
wants the authorities to intervene and give him the help he needs.

Paul

Thompson is firing blanks.

We can only hope you are right.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Michael Black · Dec 16, 2012

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012, Jim Thompson wrote:

More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Keep your trash out of the newsgroups.

Once upon a time, there was sci.electronics, full of electronic related
posts, though sometimes a bit too much traffic. So they were split into
multiple newsgroups. Then sometime later some idiot decided that
sci.electronics.design was a hangout, not so much about electronic design
but about talking about whatever to whoever was there. And after a while,
that destroyed the newsgroup, even if the illusion is that there's a lot
of traffic there and it's healthy.

And then in recent times you've compounded your initial problem by
constantly cross-posting to other newsgroups. It's bad enough that you
feel it's acceptable to post junk unrelated to electronics, but you think
the rest of us want to see the junk posts? I don't look at
sci.electronics.design because of the way you trashed it with your
off-topic posts, don't come into .basics and inflict it on us here (or in
the other newsgroups that you've cross-posted to).

If nothing else, your trash means other people think it's acceptable to
act the same way, so now we're getting other people's junk to.

Keep your junk in sci.electronics.design.

ANd in the future, before you post, think very hard about whether you have
to cross-post anything, like your continuous junk posts about needed
computer parts or whatever. At least when you kept them in
sci.electronics.design we didn't have to see them elsewhere.

Michael

RipeCrisbies · Dec 16, 2012

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:47:39 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

How's the crime rate in London?
Or Liverpool? Or Manchester?

Killed by Guns Last Year:

UK approx 35

USA approx 9500

The UK has it's problems but I know where I'd rather be! What sort of
democracy needs it's citizens to own guns. Afghanistan, Iraq?

I know it's not that bad as the vast majority of Americans are sensible
and like the rest of the sane world do not own guns. The few that do kill
thousands each year.

--
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Sales @ radiowymsey
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Jim Thompson · Dec 16, 2012

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:03:58 -0800, miso <miso@sushi.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 5:28 PM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
On Dec 15, 3:47 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:12:47 +0000, Syd Rumpo <use...@nononono.co.uk
wrote:

On 15/12/2012 19:56, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Well, that's very comforting, thanks.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution was put there to allow the
public to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Yep. In my area, citizens successfully defending themselves make the
news fairly often. Nobody seems to count those.

The greater problem is societal--fully-armed Switzerland doesn't seem
to have any problems.

NIH (Nat'l Institute of Health) explains homicides thusly:
"Sociologists feel that the increase of gangs, teenage homicide,
teenage suicide, teenage pregnancy, school drop-out, and other
problems are a reflection of a rapidly changing society and family
structure."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm

--
James Arthur

The Swiss receive training in their weapons. The ammo supplied is
inventoried, though they can always go and buy ammo themselves. Further,
they need to bring the gun to the training sessions so they can't act as
straw purchasers for criminals.

The Swiss model simply doesn't apply to US gun ownership, where any
fucking drooling moron with a clear background can buy a gun legally. If
they can't get a legal gun, then you buy one on the street via straw
purchase or guns stolen from residential burglaries from shit for brain
gun owners that don't have safes.

"Shit for brains" Isn't that the defining "quality" of Miso ?>:-}

...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson · Dec 16, 2012

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 01:03:45 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
<martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
message news:agnqc8hktfa42l1p5lokesiervmq9alouv@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:28:20 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 pm, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:12:47 +0000, Syd Rumpo
use...@nononono.co.uk
wrote:

On 15/12/2012 19:56, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used
were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Well, that's very comforting, thanks.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution was put there to allow the
public to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Yep. In my area, citizens successfully defending themselves make the
news fairly often. Nobody seems to count those.

The greater problem is societal--fully-armed Switzerland doesn't seem
to have any problems.

NIH (Nat'l Institute of Health) explains homicides thusly:
"Sociologists feel that the increase of gangs, teenage homicide,
teenage suicide, teenage pregnancy, school drop-out, and other
problems are a reflection of a rapidly changing society and family
structure."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm

The true gun lobby in the USA is Hollywood. Today's SF Chronicle
editorials
bemoaned the lack of gun control, and a few pages later, in the
Datebook
section, are big-buck ads for movies and video games full of guns, and
TV
listings that feature violence.

Availability of guns is part of the problem, but glorification of
shooting and
killing is a bigger one.

Years ago we put crazy people in big buildings with rubber walls.
Today we give them drugs and let them mingle with the general public.

Hmmmmm......

Cheers

Jim Thompson · Dec 16, 2012

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:45:31 +0000 (UTC), RipeCrisbies
<GnomeLess@lympledger.co.uk> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:47:39 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
How's the crime rate in London?
Or Liverpool? Or Manchester?

Killed by Guns Last Year:

UK approx 35

USA approx 9500

The UK has it's problems but I know where I'd rather be! What sort of
democracy needs it's citizens to own guns. Afghanistan, Iraq?

I know it's not that bad as the vast majority of Americans are sensible
and like the rest of the sane world do not own guns. The few that do kill
thousands each year.

I asked the CRIME rate?

And how about numbers PER CAPITA? We're supposed to be engineers
lurking here, are we not?

Although I'd guess a survey would show it's mostly candidates for
village idiot certification.

...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson · Dec 16, 2012

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:58:13 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:45:31 +0000 (UTC), RipeCrisbies
GnomeLess@lympledger.co.uk> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:47:39 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
How's the crime rate in London?
Or Liverpool? Or Manchester?

Killed by Guns Last Year:

UK approx 35

USA approx 9500

The UK has it's problems but I know where I'd rather be! What sort of
democracy needs it's citizens to own guns. Afghanistan, Iraq?

I know it's not that bad as the vast majority of Americans are sensible
and like the rest of the sane world do not own guns. The few that do kill
thousands each year.

I asked the CRIME rate?

Jim Thompson · Dec 16, 2012

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:42:35 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Dec 15, 10:06 pm, miso <m...@sushi.com> wrote:
On 12/15/2012 12:20 PM, RosemontCrest wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.
http://us.glock.com/technology

The GLOCK Safe ActionŽ pistol is manufactured with only 34 component
parts, a significantly lower number of parts than the
semi-automatic
pistol designs of GLOCKs competitors. This smaller number of component
parts increases reliability by reducing the potential for technical
problems. The cost associated with spare parts inventory is reduced,
which contributes to the lower overall maintenance costs for the life of
the GLOCK pistol.

To me semi-auto means the weapon ejects the round, chambers another,
and cocks itself. A Glock qualifies.

I think BATF defines it as one firing per trigger squeeze.

I heard some breathless MSM weenies describe the .223 as a "high-
powered assault rifle." Nope.

James Arthur

Jim Thompson · Dec 16, 2012

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:26:33 -0500, "Martin Riddle"
<martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote
in message news:kclpc85a4d6t9rgj8gg0frhprfrn6319o3@4ax.com...
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

Reading all the News outlets stories, it seems no one knows what guns
were used.
The coroner says the kids died from the 223, but the others say the 223
was in the car trunk.

Poor reporting if you ask me.

[snip]

Jim Thompson · Dec 16, 2012

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:59:24 -0800, miso <miso@sushi.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

Except your link doesn't say automatic.

Did I say "automatic"? Read back up a few lines.

Further, a Glock is a
semi-automatic:
http://us.glock.com/technology

I know: SEMI

The .223 is to breach body armor, though the press doesn't mention that.

Only in the "long" version.

If you listen to the NRA news (XM Patriot or podcast), the fucking
chicken shits never do a newscast when these mass murders take place.
They go quiet, then in a day or two they start foaming at the mouth
about Obama taking away their guns. The NRA is simply an embarrassment
to decent gun owners.

As it turns out, the mother in Sandy Hook was killed by her own weapon.
Some shit for brains don't believe in gun safes.

I'm all for mental exams before gun purchase... that would cut you out

:-}

Dec 16, 2012

On Dec 16, 12:43 am, "P E Schoen" <p...@peschoen.com> wrote:

James Arthur wrote in message

news:18c1a9aa-4667-492a-8468-3fdfa33a488c@a2g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

It doesn't help that the media's making the dead guy a big celebrity /
anti-hero. That's why they do it. The media encourages these things,
more than anything else.

It was revealed that the mother had the weapons for self-protection against
the feared collapse of the economy and ensuing civil war, which is
perpetrated by the radical right-wing media and dangerously delusional
nutters like Jim Thompson. People who snap and go on rampages such as this
most recent tragedy usually exhibit signs of instability, and make
pronouncements of their intentions in advance. It seems that Thompson has
been doing that a lot lately, and he freely provides his address, as if he
wants the authorities to intervene and give him the help he needs.

Paul

I just heard a parent praising the slain principal, from their
interactions with her, depositing kids at the school's before and
after school programs.

IOW, the kids are being raised by the gov't schools.

James Arthur

Jim Thompson · Dec 16, 2012

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:09:26 +0000 (UTC), Wond <gboot.phil@gmx.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:37:14 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

The general public doesn't have a clue, that's our problem.

...Jim Thompson

I was shocked to discover that my son could sight-recognize, and
recite specifications for, a great many firearms of all vintages. This
from playing video games like 'Call of duty'. You may be underestimating
'the public'!

That may be part of the problem. Our/strike-that/ YOUR kids may be
indoctrinated into that make-believe world of video games where death
only lasts until the next re-boot.

If you want to know where our society is heading, ask any teen a
simple history or math question. You will be appalled.

Or amuse yourself by going into a McDonald's, order something that
ends up costing between $4 and $5...say $4.73.

Hand the clerk a $5 bill. Wait until they ring it up, then hand them
23 cents.

Watch them turn white, stammer, and ask for manager assistance >:-}

On occasion I've had clerks give me back too much change. When told
wrong, have them argue with me. Sometimes I've been known to walk
away with the excess ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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Wond · Dec 16, 2012

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:37:14 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

The general public doesn't have a clue, that's our problem.

...Jim Thompson

I was shocked to discover that my son could sight-recognize, and
recite specifications for, a great many firearms of all vintages. This
from playing video games like 'Call of duty'. You may be underestimating
'the public'!

Dec 16, 2012

On Dec 16, 9:45 am, RipeCrisbies <GnomeL...@lympledger.co.uk> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:47:39 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
How's the crime rate in London?
Or Liverpool? Or Manchester?

Killed by Guns Last Year:

UK approx 35

USA approx 9500

The UK has it's problems but I know where I'd rather be! What sort of
democracy needs it's citizens to own guns. Afghanistan, Iraq?

Switzerland. Ours are for protection against the government,
ultimately. That was the original rationale, and still pertains
today. It may be difficult to understand. Your history is of being
ruled; ours is of self-rule. We are not subjects.

I know it's not that bad as the vast majority of Americans are sensible
and like the rest of the sane world do not own guns.

Very large numbers own guns. ISTR it's 100 million-ish. The
offenders are in the ppm, generally outlaws beforehand.

The few that do kill
thousands each year.

Ordinary citizens' risks are miniscule. Most losses are criminals &
gangbangers shooting each other in progressive, inner-city utopias.

James Arthur

John Larkin · Dec 16, 2012

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:45:31 +0000 (UTC), RipeCrisbies
<GnomeLess@lympledger.co.uk> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:47:39 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
How's the crime rate in London?
Or Liverpool? Or Manchester?

Killed by Guns Last Year:

UK approx 35

USA approx 9500

No, the number is more like 30,000 with somewhat more than half being suicides.

But the US homicide rate is about 3.5x that of the UK, nothing like 9500/35.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

But we have fewer burglaries and muggings.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/7922755/England-has-worse-crime-rate-than-the-US-says-Civitas-study.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-111162/Now-mugging-worse-London-Harlem.html

The UK has it's problems but I know where I'd rather be! What sort of
democracy needs it's citizens to own guns. Afghanistan, Iraq?

I know it's not that bad as the vast majority of Americans are sensible
and like the rest of the sane world do not own guns. The few that do kill
thousands each year.

Gun violence is selective in the USA. Drug dealers, gangs, and some cities
dominate gun violence. People who live in quiet neighborhoods and who don't hang
out at clubs until 2AM have little to fear. Likely gun ownership, whether a
single household has a weapon or not, keeps the burglarly rate down. Not only is
it legal to shoot a burglar, in some places it's positively encouraged.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2038785/Vincent-Cookes-plea-family-flee-stabbing-burglar-Raymond-Jacob-6-times.html

That's insane, arresting someone for defending his family in his own home.

"Burglar's family leave floral tributes at the scene"

I read about a guy in the UK who found a gun in his front yard. He immediately
took it to a police ststion, where he was arrested for carrying a gun.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
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Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
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Dec 16, 2012

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 09:03:54 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:42:35 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Dec 15, 10:06 pm, miso <m...@sushi.com> wrote:
On 12/15/2012 12:20 PM, RosemontCrest wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.
http://us.glock.com/technology

The GLOCK Safe ActionŽ pistol is manufactured with only 34 component
parts, a significantly lower number of parts than the
semi-automatic
pistol designs of GLOCKs competitors. This smaller number of component
parts increases reliability by reducing the potential for technical
problems. The cost associated with spare parts inventory is reduced,
which contributes to the lower overall maintenance costs for the life of
the GLOCK pistol.

To me semi-auto means the weapon ejects the round, chambers another,
and cocks itself. A Glock qualifies.

I think BATF defines it as one firing per trigger squeeze.

Then a double-action revolver is a semi-automatic? That's the first
time I've heard that definition.

I heard some breathless MSM weenies describe the .223 as a "high-
powered assault rifle." Nope.

James Arthur

Depends. .223 is available "long" for the AR15

Not buying it. There is ".223 Remington" which is very close (.223
works in a 5.56, but the other way around isn't recommended) to the
"5.56 NATO" round, used in the AR15, and ".223 super short magnum
(Winchester), but nothing I can find called a ".223 long".

Dec 16, 2012

On Dec 16, 11:03 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-
My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:42:35 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com
wrote:

I heard some breathless MSM weenies describe the .223 as a "high-
powered assault rifle." Nope.

Depends. .223 is available "long" for the AR15

Wiki says the .223 is a "sporting" cartridge. You're speaking of the
NATO 5.56x45.[*] An M1 Garrand is wayyy more powerful still.

[*] (Thanks, Wikipedia!)

It's all irrelevant bias, characterizing, media-posturing. "Assault
rifle"? As opposed to what, a "kindness and understanding" rifle? An
Obamacare "Fair Share(tm)" rifle?

It's all nonsense. Who cares? The kids are dead. Many of them were
apparently stabbed--shall we fixate on the type of knife? Or use that
as an excuse to ban knives?

America has been armed since the founding--that's never been a problem
before. It's the society that's changed--has been changed--and
"fixing" everything else on that pretext won't fix a thing.

But perhaps I misspeak--were these common pre-Great Society, pre-gov't-
farmed kids, oh Elder One?

James Arthur

Les Cargill · Dec 16, 2012

dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

On Dec 16, 12:41 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:28:20 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Dec 15, 3:47 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:

The Second Amendment to the Constitution was put there to allow the
public to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Yep. In my area, citizens successfully defending themselves make the
news fairly often. Nobody seems to count those.

The greater problem is societal--fully-armed Switzerland doesn't seem
to have any problems.

NIH (Nat'l Institute of Health) explains homicides thusly:
"Sociologists feel that the increase of gangs, teenage homicide,
teenage suicide, teenage pregnancy, school drop-out, and other
problems are a reflection of a rapidly changing society and family
structure."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm

The true gun lobby in the USA is Hollywood. Today's SF Chronicle editorials
bemoaned the lack of gun control, and a few pages later, in the Datebook
section, are big-buck ads for movies and video games full of guns, and TV
listings that feature violence.

Availability of guns is part of the problem, but glorification of shooting and
killing is a bigger one.

Yep. Boys used to carry their .22's to school, for rabbit-hunting on
the way home. I don't recall any mass murders, do you?

I almost certainly don't know what the cause is. I'd say we're all
guessing. I end up resorting to Fred On Everything style logic,
but ( I think Fred would agree ) it's rather an ... impotent ranting
.... thing.

One can also argue that Dilllinger and Charles Starkweather* might have
been part of the same phenomenon, in which case it's all but hopeless.
At least Pretty Boy Floyd was known to be very interested in media
coverage.

(see the Springsteen song "Nebraska" and the movie "Badlands" inspired
by the song. ) Yeah, we're well past science and way into art.

Dunno; CNN is getting a lot of time out of it. Gad, that's
cynical... what else they 'sposed to do?

Methinks it's more likely a Great Society thing--unsupervised kids
growing up on the gov't farm, not properly loved, tended, or taught.

Dunno. I don't think we can blame everything on the Great Society.

James

--
Les Cargill

Dec 16, 2012

On Dec 16, 12:41 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:28:20 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Dec 15, 3:47 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:

The Second Amendment to the Constitution was put there to allow the
public to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Yep. In my area, citizens successfully defending themselves make the
news fairly often. Nobody seems to count those.

The greater problem is societal--fully-armed Switzerland doesn't seem
to have any problems.

NIH (Nat'l Institute of Health) explains homicides thusly:
"Sociologists feel that the increase of gangs, teenage homicide,
teenage suicide, teenage pregnancy, school drop-out, and other
problems are a reflection of a rapidly changing society and family
structure."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm

The true gun lobby in the USA is Hollywood. Today's SF Chronicle editorials
bemoaned the lack of gun control, and a few pages later, in the Datebook
section, are big-buck ads for movies and video games full of guns, and TV
listings that feature violence.

Availability of guns is part of the problem, but glorification of shooting and
killing is a bigger one.

Yep. Boys used to carry their .22's to school, for rabbit-hunting on
the way home. I don't recall any mass murders, do you?

Methinks it's more likely a Great Society thing--unsupervised kids
growing up on the gov't farm, not properly loved, tended, or taught.

James

Les Cargill · Dec 16, 2012

dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
<snip>

One can also argue that Dilllinger and Charles Starkweather* might
have been part of the same phenomenon, in which case it's all but
hopeless. At least Pretty Boy Floyd was known to be very interested
in media coverage.

(see the Springsteen song "Nebraska" and the movie "Badlands"
inspired by the song. ) Yeah, we're well past science and way into
art.

Dunno; CNN is getting a lot of time out of it. Gad, that's
cynical... what else they 'sposed to do?

Report it, then let it lie. Or not report it at all--it's a local
thing, mostly not relevant to the country as a whole.

Yet they don't.

It's a sadness of course. But twice as many died in Sandy, and
flags weren't flying at half mast for them. Were they less worthy?
Or just less newsworthy?

I think that in the exploitation of entertainment product ( and CNN
qualifies ) if you're being this morbid, you should be making a larger
point.

Methinks it's more likely a Great Society thing--unsupervised
kids growing up on the gov't farm, not properly loved, tended, or
taught.

Dunno. I don't think we can blame everything on the Great Society.

Yes We Can!

Ar ar ar! Humo(u)r.

(Not everything, but it seems like this is a candidate.

Dunno why that would be, though.

Inner city gun violence too, mostly.)

That is different from this. Inner cities are a "divide by zero" sort of
economy; there's a whole historical arc to that. Deindustrialization,
people escaping Jim Crow in the first half of the 20th Century, drugs
prohibition - all conspire to make that happen.

The way CNN plays it is "but this isn't supposed to happen in a nice
suburb like this." Well...

James Arthur

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