J
josephkk
Guest
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:24:31 +0100, Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please>
wrote:
?-)
wrote:
+1
?-)
J
josephkk
Guest
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:38:50 -0500, "Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net>
wrote:
crashes kill many magnitudes (like about 1000 times as many) more than
some crazies (like the topic nutter) who get ahold of guns?
?-)
wrote:
What is your problem? Can't you cope with the fact that motor vehicle
crashes kill many magnitudes (like about 1000 times as many) more than
some crazies (like the topic nutter) who get ahold of guns?
?-)
J
josephkk
Guest
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 01:08:38 -0500, "P E Schoen" <paul@peschoen.com>
wrote:
anybody. Maybe you accuse anyone who disagrees with you.
Michael has repeatedly asserted that he is ready willing and able to
protect himself, but that is a much different case.
?-)
wrote:
That is kind of a wild one. I don't recall Michael making threats against"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
newsMadnRwYu8k2_VDNnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
You need help. More than you'll ever get on line. Congratulations,
you've made it into the Sloman bucket on another newsgroup.
Michael, it seems that you are also screaming for help, and hopefully
someone will provide that for you before you also snap and do something that
might endanger the lives and welfare of others. Unlike you and Jim, I have
compassion for people such as you, and I do not make plausible threats of
violence as you both have made here. Perhaps proactive measures are called
for.
Paul
anybody. Maybe you accuse anyone who disagrees with you.
Michael has repeatedly asserted that he is ready willing and able to
protect himself, but that is a much different case.
?-)
M
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
josephkk wrote:
Some people consider being kill filed as a threat. I'm tired of the
constant misinformation some post, and have been kill filing a lot of
them. I tried to install my old C++ software to update the number of
entries in Newsproxy, but it refused to install. I'll dig out an old
Win 95/98/ME box and see if it will work on one of them. It is
currently limited to 100 entries, and I'd like to raise it to 500 or
1000
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 01:08:38 -0500, "P E Schoen" ?paul@peschoen.com?
wrote:
?"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
?news
?
?? You need help. More than you'll ever get on line. Congratulations,
?? you've made it into the Sloman bucket on another newsgroup.
?
?Michael, it seems that you are also screaming for help, and hopefully
?someone will provide that for you before you also snap and do something that
?might endanger the lives and welfare of others. Unlike you and Jim, I have
?compassion for people such as you, and I do not make plausible threats of
?violence as you both have made here. Perhaps proactive measures are called
?for.
?
?Paul
That is kind of a wild one. I don't recall Michael making threats against
anybody. Maybe you accuse anyone who disagrees with you.
Michael has repeatedly asserted that he is ready willing and able to
protect himself, but that is a much different case.
Some people consider being kill filed as a threat. I'm tired of the
constant misinformation some post, and have been kill filing a lot of
them. I tried to install my old C++ software to update the number of
entries in Newsproxy, but it refused to install. I'll dig out an old
Win 95/98/ME box and see if it will work on one of them. It is
currently limited to 100 entries, and I'd like to raise it to 500 or
1000
B
Bill Sloman
Guest
On 20 Dec, 16:55, josephkk <joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
just themselves. Gun suicides run at about half the rate of car
accident deaths.
A significant fraction of car accident deaths may be suicides, which
makes the debate even more confusing.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Actually, most of the crazies who get hold of guns use them to kill
just themselves. Gun suicides run at about half the rate of car
accident deaths.
A significant fraction of car accident deaths may be suicides, which
makes the debate even more confusing.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
B
Bill Sloman
Guest
On 20 Dec, 17:00, josephkk <joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
themselves have mistakenly shot tourists and family members who shown
up in the wrong place at the wrong time.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Not all that different. People who are overly willing to defendOn Sun, 16 Dec 2012 01:08:38 -0500, "P E Schoen" <p...@peschoen.com
wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
news
You need help. More than you'll ever get on line. Congratulations,
you've made it into the Sloman bucket on another newsgroup.
Michael, it seems that you are also screaming for help, and hopefully
someone will provide that for you before you also snap and do something that
might endanger the lives and welfare of others. Unlike you and Jim, I have
compassion for people such as you, and I do not make plausible threats of
violence as you both have made here. Perhaps proactive measures are called
for.
Paul
That is kind of a wild one. I don't recall Michael making threats against
anybody. Maybe you accuse anyone who disagrees with you.
Michael has repeatedly asserted that he is ready willing and able to
protect himself, but that is a much different case.
themselves have mistakenly shot tourists and family members who shown
up in the wrong place at the wrong time.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
J
Jim Thompson
Guest
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:00:47 -0800, josephkk
<joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
liberals will be fair game >:-}
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
<joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I never threatened. I asserted that, in a state of civil war,On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 01:08:38 -0500, "P E Schoen" <paul@peschoen.com
wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
news
You need help. More than you'll ever get on line. Congratulations,
you've made it into the Sloman bucket on another newsgroup.
Michael, it seems that you are also screaming for help, and hopefully
someone will provide that for you before you also snap and do something that
might endanger the lives and welfare of others. Unlike you and Jim, I have
compassion for people such as you, and I do not make plausible threats of
violence as you both have made here. Perhaps proactive measures are called
for.
Paul
That is kind of a wild one. I don't recall Michael making threats against
anybody. Maybe you accuse anyone who disagrees with you.
Michael has repeatedly asserted that he is ready willing and able to
protect himself, but that is a much different case.
?-)
liberals will be fair game >:-}
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice
480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
B
Bill Sloman
Guest
On 21 Dec, 02:56, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
sense.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Web-Site.com> wrote:
And the local liberals will have felt threatened, if they've got anyOn Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:00:47 -0800, josephkk
joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 01:08:38 -0500, "P E Schoen" <p...@peschoen.com
wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
news
You need help. More than you'll ever get on line. Congratulations,
you've made it into the Sloman bucket on another newsgroup.
Michael, it seems that you are also screaming for help, and hopefully
someone will provide that for you before you also snap and do something that
might endanger the lives and welfare of others. Unlike you and Jim, I have
compassion for people such as you, and I do not make plausible threats of
violence as you both have made here. Perhaps proactive measures are called
for.
Paul
That is kind of a wild one. I don't recall Michael making threats against
anybody. Maybe you accuse anyone who disagrees with you.
Michael has repeatedly asserted that he is ready willing and able to
protect himself, but that is a much different case.
?-)
I never threatened. I asserted that, in a state of civil war,
liberals will be fair game >:-}
sense.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
P
P E Schoen
Guest
"Jim Thompson" wrote in message
news:27d6d8d7nv9t7r1al6re52bhrjhbm9s21g@4ax.com...
riders my way, and other childish fantasies. But I have a heat-seeking
GPS-guided drone with your coordinates and name on it. Plenty of hot air
coming out of you for a sure hit!
Paul
news:27d6d8d7nv9t7r1al6re52bhrjhbm9s21g@4ax.com...
You also threatened to send your "wild bunch" of moonshine crazed Harley
riders my way, and other childish fantasies. But I have a heat-seeking
GPS-guided drone with your coordinates and name on it. Plenty of hot air
coming out of you for a sure hit!
Paul
B
Bret Cahill
Guest
It always helps the 0.01% disable democratic freedom by keeping the
unwashed masses mistrustful of each other (See the Chapter "How the
Americans Combat the Effects of Individualism" in _Democracy In
America_ (1833)) but that may not be all that great a problem just
yet.
The biggest problem, however, is "gun rights" is used as a pacifier to
displace true individual rights that could actually empower the
individualist against the federal government.
The Bill of Rights is dedicated to checking federal power not checking
Hollywood style home invaders. There is no way an individualist has
ever been able to check federal power with a gun or any other threat
of force.
All Tim McVeigh got was The Needle and a tasteful reflecting pool in
downtown Oklahoma City.
"Checking the feds with a gun is particularly appealing to the lazy
because they don't need to bother exercising true free speech rights,
caucusing, public service and parlimentary nonsense.
Just sit back and when you "git pushed too far," start shooting anyone
you don't like and Libertaria will break out.
Even if this is the male equilivent of reading a Harliquin Romance
novel and most never act on their utopian fantasy, these attitudes
make their way into the minds of those who aren't completely balanced.
That is what is causing most of the really horrific spree shootings.
The 0.01% cannot deceive the public forever and not expect some
blowback.
What goes around comes around as the people say.
The reason the 0.01% like to encourage the notion that a fundamental
right can be based on an arbitrary numbers and arbitrary definitions
of hardware is because, to stay in power, they need to constantly
undermine true rights.
There is no 100 mph "right to travel" on freeways and the courts never
get involved in these matters.
Imagine First Amendment case law that said a 32 bit PC is
constitutional but a 64 bit machine has too much free speech "stoppin'
power" to be constitutional so 64 bit may be regulated by the
legislative.
Either there is a basic right for every Tim McVeigh to keep and bear
suitcase nukes or any soup spoon can be regulated by the "well
regulated militia" of the Second Amendment by the legislative/
administrative.
Those kinds of decisions are not judicial but legislative/
administrative and any court that gets involved on the constitutional
merits of "individualist rights to guns" is not only legislating from
the bench but making a farce of the Constitution.
The Second Amendment positively reeks of collectivism, i.e., militias
"the people" and states' rights. The words "persons" and
"individualists" and "guns" never appear in the Second.
To check the feds -- and looneytarians are correct that the feds
sometimes need checking -- requires the First Amendment.
Now that I've lost all the low cognitive ability issue dodging
cowardly nutters it's time to lose the politically clueless gun
grabbers:
Everyone would be much safer if we dropped restrictions on RPGs,
stingers and other military weapons in exchange for a citizenry that
actually understood the constitution and how to use real rights so
that most everyone would be earning the average mean income of > $70/
hour.
It would be better to educate the people about political science and
ignore gun control altogether for the near term. Once that is done
and you get some reputable people on the bench maybe then you might
want to change the restrictions.
But my guess is that arms just wouldn't be an issue.
The most comprehensive profile of any nation ever written was
Tocqueville's _DoA_. The archivist researched all of the documents
from the Puritans to the _Federalist Papers_. He focused most
intensely on the federal constitution which he said should be "hailed
as the greatest breakthrough in political science of the age."
Never once in the 4 book 800+ page work does Tocqueville mention "gun
rights" or the Second Amendment.
Bret Cahill
B
Bret Cahill
Guest
Against gummint?
A Swiss immigrant once mistook me for another European and mentioned
the local crackers his smart ass American lawyer had called "the
proventials."
"We have guns in Switzerland but . . . [it isn't the same thing]."
In other words, in Switzerland they don't think shooting a Hollywood
style home invader is somehow "checking the feds."
Bret Cahill
B
Bret Cahill
Guest
Actually an inability of focus and being off topic is a precondition
for being an ignorant confused gun nutter.
This is typical:
Against gummint?
There is just _no way_ anyone as knee jerk emotive, disoriented and
cognitively challenged as a nutter can possibly be useful in today's
globalized economy.
From that it's 100% guaranteed that there will be more spree
shootings.
Bret Cahill
M
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
Bret Cahill wrote:
There you go, bragging again.
There you go, bragging again.
C
Charlie E.
Guest
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:51:30 -0500, krw@att.bizzz wrote:
days are being drugged and treated for this behavioral problem, or
that one, that many of these kids have no idea what reality is Add
into that the movies and video games, and half of them don't know the
difference between fantasy and reality, or even care! Add to that the
'esteem building' that goes on in public schools, and when they
graduate and hit the real world, they get frustrated and angry and
want to fight back. Since it really doesn't matter anyway, why no go
out with a bang!
Actually, this is probably the CAUSE of the problem. So many kids now
days are being drugged and treated for this behavioral problem, or
that one, that many of these kids have no idea what reality is Add
into that the movies and video games, and half of them don't know the
difference between fantasy and reality, or even care! Add to that the
'esteem building' that goes on in public schools, and when they
graduate and hit the real world, they get frustrated and angry and
want to fight back. Since it really doesn't matter anyway, why no go
out with a bang!
Guest
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:37:46 -0800, Charlie E. <edmondson@ieee.org>
wrote:
wrote:
Precisely.
C
cameo
Guest
On 12/27/2012 1:37 PM, Charlie E. wrote:
J
Jim Thompson
Guest
On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 22:46:04 -0800, cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid>
wrote:
numerical imbalance between males and females... not enough females to
go around.... trouble. China is headed that way.
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
wrote:
Charlie is correct. The other cause of violence/gang-behavior is
numerical imbalance between males and females... not enough females to
go around.... trouble. China is headed that way.
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice
480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
C
cameo
Guest
On 12/28/2012 8:17 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
the restlessness in the muslim countries. All those hormone-fuled young
guys without easily available females to hit on because the unmarried
females are not allowed into public without nose-to-toe covering. That's
no way to have fun filled Happy Hours.
Come to think of it, this might also be the driving force of so much of
the restlessness in the muslim countries. All those hormone-fuled young
guys without easily available females to hit on because the unmarried
females are not allowed into public without nose-to-toe covering. That's
no way to have fun filled Happy Hours.
U
UltimatePatriot
Guest
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:09:06 -0800, cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote:
We should start snipping nuts as a punishment for sex offenders, and
snipping the whole appendage on rapists.
Watch the problems drop dramatically.
And YES, if actually implemented, it WOULD be efficacious in crime
reduction.
Murderers should all roast too.
ANY weapon crime should mean life without free soil access ever again.
exile to say a strict Muslim country for 'parole'.
We should start snipping nuts as a punishment for sex offenders, and
snipping the whole appendage on rapists.
Watch the problems drop dramatically.
And YES, if actually implemented, it WOULD be efficacious in crime
reduction.
Murderers should all roast too.
ANY weapon crime should mean life without free soil access ever again.
exile to say a strict Muslim country for 'parole'.
J
Jim Thompson
Guest
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:09:06 -0800, cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid>
wrote:
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
wrote:
I _do_ remember being 18... perpetual h....on >:-}
...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice
480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat || E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.