More Media Lies

On 12/15/2012 5:28 PM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
On Dec 15, 3:47 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:12:47 +0000, Syd Rumpo <use...@nononono.co.uk
wrote:

On 15/12/2012 19:56, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv


Well, that's very comforting, thanks.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution was put there to allow the
public to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Yep. In my area, citizens successfully defending themselves make the
news fairly often. Nobody seems to count those.

The greater problem is societal--fully-armed Switzerland doesn't seem
to have any problems.

NIH (Nat'l Institute of Health) explains homicides thusly:
"Sociologists feel that the increase of gangs, teenage homicide,
teenage suicide, teenage pregnancy, school drop-out, and other
problems are a reflection of a rapidly changing society and family
structure."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm

--
James Arthur
Click to expand...
The Swiss receive training in their weapons. The ammo supplied is
inventoried, though they can always go and buy ammo themselves. Further,
they need to bring the gun to the training sessions so they can't act as
straw purchasers for criminals.

The Swiss model simply doesn't apply to US gun ownership, where any
fucking drooling moron with a clear background can buy a gun legally. If
they can't get a legal gun, then you buy one on the street via straw
purchase or guns stolen from residential burglaries from shit for brain
gun owners that don't have safes.
 
On 12/15/2012 12:20 PM, RosemontCrest wrote:
On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson


Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.

http://us.glock.com/technology
Click to expand...

The GLOCK “Safe Action”Ž pistol is manufactured with only 34 component
parts, a significantly lower number of parts than the
semi-automatic
pistol designs of GLOCK’s competitors. This smaller number of component
parts increases reliability by reducing the potential for technical
problems. The cost associated with spare parts inventory is reduced,
which contributes to the lower overall maintenance costs for the life of
the GLOCK pistol.
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:47:49 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:25:10 -0600, flipper <flipper@fish.net> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:51:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:07:40 -0000, "TTman" <pcw1.cad@ntlworld.com
wrote:


"Peter" <peter@arin.htlm.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:56:43 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

The media certainly has a responsibility for accuracy, but here the
real problem to be addressed is the unnecessary widespread
availability of guns to people who not only do not have a need, but
rely on the 'right to bear arms'. Rights also have responsibilities,
and the government should seriously get on and properly restrict
access to firearms. Semiautomatic are obviously a potential problem,
but even single shot are highly dangerous.

Peter

All guns are deadly in the hands of a maniac so who cares if they are
auto/semi/single shot ?
get a life you lot and think of the deceased :(


What pistol is NOT "semi-automatic", except perhaps a single-barrel
Derringer?

Flintlock pistols, non-rotating multi-barrel pistols, pepperbox
revolvers, harmonica pistols, and cartridge equivalents.

I'm afraid you're just wrong here, Jim. A "pistol" has the chamber
integral with the barrel, which was the 'original' means of making a
handgun, and the 'revolver', where the chambers rotate behind a fixed
barrel, was the departure.

Semi-automatic means the mechanism itself, independent of human
action, cycles the next round and prepares the weapon for the next
shot (cocking) rather than it being done by manual means, such as in a
"single action" revolver where the trigger does 'one (single) thing',
drop the hammer, and manually cocking rotates the cylinder, or a
"double action" revolver where the cock and cylinder actions are
combined into the trigger. The latter takes a longer, using more
force, trigger pull.

A semi-automatic has the light trigger pull of the single action and
the auto loading makes it (allegedly) 'faster' than manual, although
I've seen experts who could fire a double action faster than a
semi-auto, AND on target. (and also speed load as fast as a clip ).

Most people, you included it would seem, probably presume a 'pistol'
is necessarily a semi-automatic (assuming they know a 'pistol' is not
a revolver and vice versa), since that's what it most likely would be
these days, but "semi-automatic pistol" is the correct term. (fully
automatic would be a "machine pistol").

On top of that, your link is a poor example of the 'hysteria' claim
because I couldn't find anything but "handgun" (and unspecified
'rifle') mentioned in it.

'Media hype' is more generally the hysterical use of semi-automatic
"assault rifle," as if 'military looking' has any consequence. The
definition of "assault rifle" requires select fire so any
semi-automatic, regardless of what it looks like, it NOT an "assault
rifle." (the 1994 ban got around this 'problem' by coining the new
term "assault weapon" as a semi-automatic with 'scary' features like a
folding stock and pistol grip. A bayonet mount was another 'scary
feature' and you see how many 'mass gorings' there've been from them.)

Almost all of these nut case crimes happened because "medical privacy"
rules prevent disclosure that would have prevented qualification to
buy a weapon.

And look at the Fort Hood case... Hasan was outwardly hostile against
"infidels", but the record was suppressed because of FEAR of
infringing the civil rights of some Islamic nutcase. Now the trial
is delayed while he appeals to keep his beard. Shoot the @#$%^& and
get it over with.

...Jim Thompson

"Flipper" (a pseudonym for pansy, wimp and/or fairy) didn't address
anything but a dictionary definition that no one knows or cares about.
Click to expand...
In other words, Jim was wrong so he attacks the messenger for speaking
truth.


> ...Jim Thompson
 
On 12/15/2012 7:48 PM, flipper wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:47:49 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:25:10 -0600, flipper <flipper@fish.net> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:51:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:07:40 -0000, "TTman" <pcw1.cad@ntlworld.com
wrote:


"Peter" <peter@arin.htlm.com> wrote in message
news:qnopc8t93blhs5o96j4qclm92js3plq2mh@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:56:43 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

The media certainly has a responsibility for accuracy, but here the
real problem to be addressed is the unnecessary widespread
availability of guns to people who not only do not have a need, but
rely on the 'right to bear arms'. Rights also have responsibilities,
and the government should seriously get on and properly restrict
access to firearms. Semiautomatic are obviously a potential problem,
but even single shot are highly dangerous.

Peter

All guns are deadly in the hands of a maniac so who cares if they are
auto/semi/single shot ?
get a life you lot and think of the deceased :(


What pistol is NOT "semi-automatic", except perhaps a single-barrel
Derringer?

Flintlock pistols, non-rotating multi-barrel pistols, pepperbox
revolvers, harmonica pistols, and cartridge equivalents.

I'm afraid you're just wrong here, Jim. A "pistol" has the chamber
integral with the barrel, which was the 'original' means of making a
handgun, and the 'revolver', where the chambers rotate behind a fixed
barrel, was the departure.

Semi-automatic means the mechanism itself, independent of human
action, cycles the next round and prepares the weapon for the next
shot (cocking) rather than it being done by manual means, such as in a
"single action" revolver where the trigger does 'one (single) thing',
drop the hammer, and manually cocking rotates the cylinder, or a
"double action" revolver where the cock and cylinder actions are
combined into the trigger. The latter takes a longer, using more
force, trigger pull.

A semi-automatic has the light trigger pull of the single action and
the auto loading makes it (allegedly) 'faster' than manual, although
I've seen experts who could fire a double action faster than a
semi-auto, AND on target. (and also speed load as fast as a clip ).

Most people, you included it would seem, probably presume a 'pistol'
is necessarily a semi-automatic (assuming they know a 'pistol' is not
a revolver and vice versa), since that's what it most likely would be
these days, but "semi-automatic pistol" is the correct term. (fully
automatic would be a "machine pistol").

On top of that, your link is a poor example of the 'hysteria' claim
because I couldn't find anything but "handgun" (and unspecified
'rifle') mentioned in it.

'Media hype' is more generally the hysterical use of semi-automatic
"assault rifle," as if 'military looking' has any consequence. The
definition of "assault rifle" requires select fire so any
semi-automatic, regardless of what it looks like, it NOT an "assault
rifle." (the 1994 ban got around this 'problem' by coining the new
term "assault weapon" as a semi-automatic with 'scary' features like a
folding stock and pistol grip. A bayonet mount was another 'scary
feature' and you see how many 'mass gorings' there've been from them.)

Almost all of these nut case crimes happened because "medical privacy"
rules prevent disclosure that would have prevented qualification to
buy a weapon.

And look at the Fort Hood case... Hasan was outwardly hostile against
"infidels", but the record was suppressed because of FEAR of
infringing the civil rights of some Islamic nutcase. Now the trial
is delayed while he appeals to keep his beard. Shoot the @#$%^& and
get it over with.

...Jim Thompson

"Flipper" (a pseudonym for pansy, wimp and/or fairy) didn't address
anything but a dictionary definition that no one knows or cares about.

In other words, Jim was wrong so he attacks the messenger for speaking
truth.
Click to expand...
Yeah, it seems that he doesn't like being proven wrong. Oh well, it's
not like he contributes much of anything relevant to these newsgroups
anymore. Most of what he posts lately is off-topic blather.
 
On Dec 15, 10:03 pm, miso <m...@sushi.com> wrote:
On 12/15/2012 5:28 PM, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Dec 15, 3:47 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:12:47 +0000, Syd Rumpo <use...@nononono.co.uk
wrote:

On 15/12/2012 19:56, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Well, that's very comforting, thanks.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution was put there to allow the
public to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Yep.  In my area, citizens successfully defending themselves make the
news fairly often.  Nobody seems to count those.

The greater problem is societal--fully-armed Switzerland doesn't seem
to have any problems.

NIH (Nat'l Institute of Health) explains homicides thusly:
"Sociologists feel that the increase of gangs, teenage homicide,
teenage suicide, teenage pregnancy, school drop-out, and other
problems are a reflection of a rapidly changing society and family
structure."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm


The Swiss receive training in their weapons.
Click to expand...
The dead guy was trained--his mom took him to the range. It doesn't
seem to have helped.

The ammo supplied is
inventoried, though they can always go and buy ammo themselves. Further,
they need to bring the gun to the training sessions so they can't act as
straw purchasers for criminals.

The Swiss model simply doesn't apply to US gun ownership, where any
fucking drooling moron with a clear background can buy a gun legally. If
they can't get a legal gun, then you buy one on the street via straw
purchase or guns stolen from residential burglaries from shit for brain
gun owners that don't have safes.
Click to expand...
How does that safe thing work? When your life's in danger, do you ask
the guy to wait whilst you open your safe? In the dark?

But, we have the right to arms for a different reason, closer to the
Swiss one: defense. Against government, in our case. So said the
founders, in the Federalist Papers.

The school shooting thing didn't catch on until the media made them
heroes.

--
James Arthur
 
On Dec 15, 10:06 pm, miso <m...@sushi.com> wrote:
On 12/15/2012 12:20 PM, RosemontCrest wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv


Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.
http://us.glock.com/technology

The GLOCK “Safe Action”Ž pistol is manufactured with only 34 component
parts, a significantly lower number of parts than the
semi-automatic
pistol designs of GLOCK’s competitors. This smaller number of component
parts increases reliability by reducing the potential for technical
problems. The cost associated with spare parts inventory is reduced,
which contributes to the lower overall maintenance costs for the life of
the GLOCK pistol.
Click to expand...
To me semi-auto means the weapon ejects the round, chambers another,
and cocks itself. A Glock qualifies.

I heard some breathless MSM weenies describe the .223 as a "high-
powered assault rifle." Nope.

James Arthur
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:28:20 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:12:47 +0000, Syd Rumpo <use...@nononono.co.uk
wrote:

On 15/12/2012 19:56, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv


Well, that's very comforting, thanks.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution was put there to allow the
public to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Yep. In my area, citizens successfully defending themselves make the
news fairly often. Nobody seems to count those.

The greater problem is societal--fully-armed Switzerland doesn't seem
to have any problems.

NIH (Nat'l Institute of Health) explains homicides thusly:
"Sociologists feel that the increase of gangs, teenage homicide,
teenage suicide, teenage pregnancy, school drop-out, and other
problems are a reflection of a rapidly changing society and family
structure."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm
Click to expand...
The true gun lobby in the USA is Hollywood. Today's SF Chronicle editorials
bemoaned the lack of gun control, and a few pages later, in the Datebook
section, are big-buck ads for movies and video games full of guns, and TV
listings that feature violence.

Availability of guns is part of the problem, but glorification of shooting and
killing is a bigger one.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
 
James Arthur wrote in message
news:18c1a9aa-4667-492a-8468-3fdfa33a488c@a2g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

It doesn't help that the media's making the dead guy a big celebrity /
anti-hero. That's why they do it. The media encourages these things,
more than anything else.
Click to expand...
It was revealed that the mother had the weapons for self-protection against
the feared collapse of the economy and ensuing civil war, which is
perpetrated by the radical right-wing media and dangerously delusional
nutters like Jim Thompson. People who snap and go on rampages such as this
most recent tragedy usually exhibit signs of instability, and make
pronouncements of their intentions in advance. It seems that Thompson has
been doing that a lot lately, and he freely provides his address, as if he
wants the authorities to intervene and give him the help he needs.

Paul
 
P E Schoen wrote:
It seems that
Click to expand...

You need help. More than you'll ever get on line. Congratulations,
you've made it into the Sloman bucket on another newsgroup.
 
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
message news:agnqc8hktfa42l1p5lokesiervmq9alouv@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:28:20 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 pm, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:12:47 +0000, Syd Rumpo
use...@nononono.co.uk
wrote:

On 15/12/2012 19:56, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used
were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv


Well, that's very comforting, thanks.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution was put there to allow the
public to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Yep. In my area, citizens successfully defending themselves make the
news fairly often. Nobody seems to count those.

The greater problem is societal--fully-armed Switzerland doesn't seem
to have any problems.

NIH (Nat'l Institute of Health) explains homicides thusly:
"Sociologists feel that the increase of gangs, teenage homicide,
teenage suicide, teenage pregnancy, school drop-out, and other
problems are a reflection of a rapidly changing society and family
structure."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm

The true gun lobby in the USA is Hollywood. Today's SF Chronicle
editorials
bemoaned the lack of gun control, and a few pages later, in the
Datebook
section, are big-buck ads for movies and video games full of guns, and
TV
listings that feature violence.

Availability of guns is part of the problem, but glorification of
shooting and
killing is a bigger one.
Click to expand...
Years ago we put crazy people in big buildings with rubber walls.
Today we give them drugs and let them mingle with the general public.

Hmmmmm......

Cheers
 
On 16 Dec, 14:26, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Dec 15, 10:03 pm, miso <m...@sushi.com> wrote:









On 12/15/2012 5:28 PM, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Dec 15, 3:47 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:12:47 +0000, Syd Rumpo <use...@nononono.co.uk
wrote:

On 15/12/2012 19:56, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Well, that's very comforting, thanks.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution was put there to allow the
public to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Yep.  In my area, citizens successfully defending themselves make the
news fairly often.  Nobody seems to count those.

The greater problem is societal--fully-armed Switzerland doesn't seem
to have any problems.

NIH (Nat'l Institute of Health) explains homicides thusly:
"Sociologists feel that the increase of gangs, teenage homicide,
teenage suicide, teenage pregnancy, school drop-out, and other
problems are a reflection of a rapidly changing society and family
structure."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm

The Swiss receive training in their weapons.

The dead guy was trained--his mom took him to the range.  It doesn't
seem to have helped.

The ammo supplied is
inventoried, though they can always go and buy ammo themselves. Further,
they need to bring the gun to the training sessions so they can't act as
straw purchasers for criminals.

The Swiss model simply doesn't apply to US gun ownership, where any
fucking drooling moron with a clear background can buy a gun legally. If
they can't get a legal gun, then you buy one on the street via straw
purchase or guns stolen from residential burglaries from shit for brain
gun owners that don't have safes.

How does that safe thing work?  When your life's in danger, do you ask
the guy to wait whilst you open your safe?  In the dark?

But, we have the right to arms for a different reason, closer to the
Swiss one: defense.  Against government, in our case.  So said the
founders, in the Federalist Papers.

The school shooting thing didn't catch on until the media made them
heroes.
Click to expand...
Heroes? There's no such thing as bad publicity, but even James Arthur
should be able to recognise the difference between a villain and a
hero, and the timing doesn't suggest that there's much of a copy-cat
element involved.

More stringent gun control doesn't prevent the occasional weirdo from
killing lots of their neighbours - it's happened in
Scotland, Norway and Australia - but it does make it less frequent.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
news:pMadnRwYu8k2_VDNnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@earthlink.com...

You need help. More than you'll ever get on line. Congratulations,
you've made it into the Sloman bucket on another newsgroup.
Click to expand...
Michael, it seems that you are also screaming for help, and hopefully
someone will provide that for you before you also snap and do something that
might endanger the lives and welfare of others. Unlike you and Jim, I have
compassion for people such as you, and I do not make plausible threats of
violence as you both have made here. Perhaps proactive measures are called
for.

Paul
 
On 16 Dec, 12:48, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:42:18 -0800, RosemontCrest









rosemontcr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 12/15/2012 5:37 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:27:41 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 2:48 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:00:42 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 1:42 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:54:34 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 12:41 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:20:08 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

                                             ...Jim Thompson

Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.

Educate your own self.

Modern handguns AND old-fashioned revolvers fire exactly one round for
every squeeze of the trigger.

What in the world does that have to do with your assertion that media
lies by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic as defined by the BATFE.

That's the media's definition of "semi-automatic"...in their vain
attempt to equate all guns to the same as an AR15... which also fires
exactly one round for every squeeze of the trigger.

The media relies on bird-brains who equate shoot-em-up chase-scene
movies with reality.

Are you one of those?  If so, I've got one "squeeze" for you >:-}

                                            ...Jim Thompson

Revolvers also fit the definition...

       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm

But "semi-automatic" is a scare word to intimidate the ignorant.

                                           ...Jim Thompson

What does that have to do with your erroneous assertion that media lies
by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic.

Only BATF calls them "semi-automatic"... the general public doesn't.

                                          ...Jim Thompson

You just contradicted yourself. Media accurately refers to the weapons
used as "semi-automatic," as do many more within the general public than
you may believe.

By the way, a revolver is not a semi-automatic weapon. Try reading again
with the goal of comprehension the Wiki article that you cited.

The general public doesn't have a clue, that's our problem.

                                         ...Jim Thompson

Evidently, you don't have a clue. That's your problem. ;-)

No, my "problem" just went away.
Click to expand...
No, he swept it under the carpet. Anybody who reminds Jim that he is
an ignorant jackass gets kill-filed, which leaves him happy to enjoy
the company of those who haven't noticed that he's an ignorant
jackass.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 16 Dec, 11:41, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:

But "semi-automatic" is a scare word to intimidate the ignorant.

   They are scared of daylight, like any other cockroach.
Click to expand...
Whereas Jim bravely kill-files everybody who points out how ignorant
he is.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 00:43:50 -0500, "P E Schoen" <paul@peschoen.com> wrote:

James Arthur wrote in message
news:18c1a9aa-4667-492a-8468-3fdfa33a488c@a2g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

It doesn't help that the media's making the dead guy a big celebrity /
anti-hero. That's why they do it. The media encourages these things,
more than anything else.

It was revealed that the mother had the weapons for self-protection against
the feared collapse of the economy and ensuing civil war, which is
perpetrated by the radical right-wing media and dangerously delusional
nutters like Jim Thompson. People who snap and go on rampages such as this
most recent tragedy usually exhibit signs of instability, and make
pronouncements of their intentions in advance. It seems that Thompson has
been doing that a lot lately, and he freely provides his address, as if he
wants the authorities to intervene and give him the help he needs.

Paul
Click to expand...
Thompson is firing blanks.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
 
On 16 Dec, 11:43, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Charles wrote:

I do not quite get the car analogy.  Only a few nuts use cars to
indiscriminately kill other humans.  Lots of nuts use guns to do that..

   What are you blathering about?
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Jim Thompson thinks that the fact that cars kill 90 people a day in
the US absolves you from having to worry about the fact that guns kill
three people a day.

It's not immediately clear why he doesn't think that the fact than
cancer kills 1500 a day isn't equally relevant.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 16 Dec, 11:39, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:28:01 +0100, tuinkabouter
dachthetn...@net.invalid> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 8:56 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Is this important?

In the US on average three kids are killed every day by firearms.
What would you do about that?

So?  Ninety people die every day in an automobile accident... many of
them children.  I say require a thorough test, perhaps like Formula-V
qualification, before you can buy a car; and require a 5-point harness
for the driver and all passengers >:-}

   They also need to do away with all swimming pools, bicycles, forks,
knives, gasoline, people with a sub-normal IQ and liberals.
Click to expand...
Don't forget the reactionaries. They kill many more than liberals,
what with one thing - aversion to vaccination for instance - and
another.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 16 Dec, 12:03, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Dec 15, 7:39 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:









Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:28:01 +0100, tuinkabouter
dachthetn...@net.invalid> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 8:56 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Is this important?

In the US on average three kids are killed every day by firearms.
What would you do about that?

So?  Ninety people die every day in an automobile accident... many of
them children.  I say require a thorough test, perhaps like Formula-V
qualification, before you can buy a car; and require a 5-point harness
for the driver and all passengers >:-}

   They also need to do away with all swimming pools, bicycles, forks,
knives, gasoline, people with a sub-normal IQ and liberals.

Don't forget hospitals--they kill (iatrogenic) roughly 100k a year.
Didn't that guy use a car too?  That shouldn't be allowed, either.

It doesn't help that the media's making the dead guy a big celebrity /
anti-hero.  That's why they do it.  The media encourages these things,
more than anything else.
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You'd need copy-cat surges in the statistics to prove that point. It's
not there, which makes you a liar.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
Martin Riddle wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
message news:agnqc8hktfa42l1p5lokesiervmq9alouv@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:28:20 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Dec 15, 3:47 pm, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:12:47 +0000, Syd Rumpo
use...@nononono.co.uk
wrote:

On 15/12/2012 19:56, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used
were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv


Well, that's very comforting, thanks.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution was put there to allow the
public to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Yep. In my area, citizens successfully defending themselves make the
news fairly often. Nobody seems to count those.

The greater problem is societal--fully-armed Switzerland doesn't seem
to have any problems.

NIH (Nat'l Institute of Health) explains homicides thusly:
"Sociologists feel that the increase of gangs, teenage homicide,
teenage suicide, teenage pregnancy, school drop-out, and other
problems are a reflection of a rapidly changing society and family
structure."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm

The true gun lobby in the USA is Hollywood. Today's SF Chronicle
editorials
bemoaned the lack of gun control, and a few pages later, in the
Datebook
section, are big-buck ads for movies and video games full of guns, and
TV
listings that feature violence.

Availability of guns is part of the problem, but glorification of
shooting and
killing is a bigger one.


Years ago we put crazy people in big buildings with rubber walls.
Today we give them drugs and let them mingle with the general public.
Click to expand...


Then they call cross country and make death threats when people kill
file them.
 
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On 16 Dec, 08:56, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:28:01 +0100, tuinkabouter

dachthetn...@net.invalid> wrote:
On 12/15/2012 8:56 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Is this important?

In the US on average three kids are killed every day by firearms.
What would you do about that?

So? =A0Ninety people die every day in an automobile accident... many of
them children.

But cars are useful. Pretty much every other advanced industrial
country gets by with much tighter restrictions on gun ownership, and
benefits from much lower rates of gun homicide.
About all the US actually earns with it's silly ideas about the right
to bear arms is a lot more gun murders.
Click to expand...
Darwin's theory works very well on idiots.

--
Failure does not prove something is impossible, failure simply
indicates you are not using the right tools...
nico@nctdevpuntnl (punt=.)
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