More Media Lies

[RosemontCrest]

On 12/15/2012 2:48 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:00:42 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 1:42 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:54:34 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 12:41 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:20:08 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson


Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.

Educate your own self.

Modern handguns AND old-fashioned revolvers fire exactly one round for
every squeeze of the trigger.

What in the world does that have to do with your assertion that media
lies by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic as defined by the BATFE.

That's the media's definition of "semi-automatic"...in their vain
attempt to equate all guns to the same as an AR15... which also fires
exactly one round for every squeeze of the trigger.

The media relies on bird-brains who equate shoot-em-up chase-scene
movies with reality.

Are you one of those? If so, I've got one "squeeze" for you >:-}

...Jim Thompson


Revolvers also fit the definition...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm

But "semi-automatic" is a scare word to intimidate the ignorant.

...Jim Thompson


What does that have to do with your erroneous assertion that media lies
by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic.

Only BATF calls them "semi-automatic"... the general public doesn't.

...Jim Thompson

You just contradicted yourself. Media accurately refers to the weapons
used as "semi-automatic," as do many more within the general public than
you may believe.

By the way, a revolver is not a semi-automatic weapon. Try reading again
with the goal of comprehension the Wiki article that you cited.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

hamilton wrote:

On 12/15/2012 1:41 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:

Are you one of those? If so, I've got one "squeeze" for you >:-}

...Jim Thompson


The Mental health people say that people with mental issues will fester
with grudges that will one day snap.

And some of those people buy weapons waiting for the right time to snap.

Does that sound like some one we know ??

YOU.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On 16 Dec, 08:56, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:28:01 +0100, tuinkabouter

dachthetn...@net.invalid> wrote:
On 12/15/2012 8:56 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Is this important?

In the US on average three kids are killed every day by firearms.
What would you do about that?

So?  Ninety people die every day in an automobile accident... many of
them children.

But cars are useful. Pretty much every other advanced industrial
country gets by with much tighter restrictions on gun ownership, and
benefits from much lower rates of gun homicide.
About all the US actually earns with it's silly ideas about the right
to bear arms is a lot more gun murders.

 I say require a thorough test, perhaps like Formula-V
qualification, before you can buy a car; and require a 5-point harness
for the driver and all passengers >:-}

Sounds like a good idea, but even less politically feasible than
effective gun-control in the US.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

tuinkabouter wrote:

On 12/15/2012 8:56 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Is this important?

In the US on average three kids are killed every day by firearms.

BULLSHIT ! Unless 'kids' are age zero to 25.

What would you do about that?

Keep you away from guns & schools.

 

[Charles]

I do not quite get the car analogy. Only a few nuts use cars to
indiscriminately kill other humans. Lots of nuts use guns to do that.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:28:01 +0100, tuinkabouter
dachthetniet@net.invalid> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 8:56 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Is this important?

In the US on average three kids are killed every day by firearms.
What would you do about that?


So? Ninety people die every day in an automobile accident... many of
them children. I say require a thorough test, perhaps like Formula-V
qualification, before you can buy a car; and require a 5-point harness
for the driver and all passengers >:-}

They also need to do away with all swimming pools, bicycles, forks,
knives, gasoline, people with a sub-normal IQ and liberals.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jim Thompson wrote:

But "semi-automatic" is a scare word to intimidate the ignorant.

They are scared of daylight, like any other cockroach.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Charles wrote:

I do not quite get the car analogy. Only a few nuts use cars to
indiscriminately kill other humans. Lots of nuts use guns to do that.

What are you blathering about?

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:27:41 -0800, RosemontCrest
<rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 2:48 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:00:42 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 1:42 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:54:34 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 12:41 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:20:08 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson


Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.

Educate your own self.

Modern handguns AND old-fashioned revolvers fire exactly one round for
every squeeze of the trigger.

What in the world does that have to do with your assertion that media
lies by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic as defined by the BATFE.

That's the media's definition of "semi-automatic"...in their vain
attempt to equate all guns to the same as an AR15... which also fires
exactly one round for every squeeze of the trigger.

The media relies on bird-brains who equate shoot-em-up chase-scene
movies with reality.

Are you one of those? If so, I've got one "squeeze" for you >:-}

...Jim Thompson


Revolvers also fit the definition...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm

But "semi-automatic" is a scare word to intimidate the ignorant.

...Jim Thompson


What does that have to do with your erroneous assertion that media lies
by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic.

Only BATF calls them "semi-automatic"... the general public doesn't.

...Jim Thompson

You just contradicted yourself. Media accurately refers to the weapons
used as "semi-automatic," as do many more within the general public than
you may believe.

By the way, a revolver is not a semi-automatic weapon. Try reading again
with the goal of comprehension the Wiki article that you cited.

The general public doesn't have a clue, that's our problem.

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:43:14 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Charles wrote:

I do not quite get the car analogy. Only a few nuts use cars to
indiscriminately kill other humans. Lots of nuts use guns to do that.


What are you blathering about?

He's ignorant. Shun him.

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:35:16 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

tuinkabouter wrote:

On 12/15/2012 8:56 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Is this important?

In the US on average three kids are killed every day by firearms.


BULLSHIT ! Unless 'kids' are age zero to 25.


What would you do about that?


Keep you away from guns & schools.

A "twinky" leftist made up that statistic, so it must be true ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
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| Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[RosemontCrest]

On 12/15/2012 5:37 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:27:41 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 2:48 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:00:42 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 1:42 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:54:34 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 12:41 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:20:08 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson


Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.

Educate your own self.

Modern handguns AND old-fashioned revolvers fire exactly one round for
every squeeze of the trigger.

What in the world does that have to do with your assertion that media
lies by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic as defined by the BATFE.

That's the media's definition of "semi-automatic"...in their vain
attempt to equate all guns to the same as an AR15... which also fires
exactly one round for every squeeze of the trigger.

The media relies on bird-brains who equate shoot-em-up chase-scene
movies with reality.

Are you one of those? If so, I've got one "squeeze" for you >:-}

...Jim Thompson


Revolvers also fit the definition...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm

But "semi-automatic" is a scare word to intimidate the ignorant.

...Jim Thompson


What does that have to do with your erroneous assertion that media lies
by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic.

Only BATF calls them "semi-automatic"... the general public doesn't.

...Jim Thompson

You just contradicted yourself. Media accurately refers to the weapons
used as "semi-automatic," as do many more within the general public than
you may believe.

By the way, a revolver is not a semi-automatic weapon. Try reading again
with the goal of comprehension the Wiki article that you cited.


The general public doesn't have a clue, that's our problem.

...Jim Thompson

Evidently, you don't have a clue. That's your problem. ;-)

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:25:10 -0600, flipper <flipper@fish.net> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:51:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:07:40 -0000, "TTman" <pcw1.cad@ntlworld.com
wrote:


"Peter" <peter@arin.htlm.com> wrote in message
news:qnopc8t93blhs5o96j4qclm92js3plq2mh@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:56:43 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

The media certainly has a responsibility for accuracy, but here the
real problem to be addressed is the unnecessary widespread
availability of guns to people who not only do not have a need, but
rely on the 'right to bear arms'. Rights also have responsibilities,
and the government should seriously get on and properly restrict
access to firearms. Semiautomatic are obviously a potential problem,
but even single shot are highly dangerous.

Peter

All guns are deadly in the hands of a maniac so who cares if they are
auto/semi/single shot ?
get a life you lot and think of the deceased


What pistol is NOT "semi-automatic", except perhaps a single-barrel
Derringer?

Flintlock pistols, non-rotating multi-barrel pistols, pepperbox
revolvers, harmonica pistols, and cartridge equivalents.

I'm afraid you're just wrong here, Jim. A "pistol" has the chamber
integral with the barrel, which was the 'original' means of making a
handgun, and the 'revolver', where the chambers rotate behind a fixed
barrel, was the departure.

Semi-automatic means the mechanism itself, independent of human
action, cycles the next round and prepares the weapon for the next
shot (cocking) rather than it being done by manual means, such as in a
"single action" revolver where the trigger does 'one (single) thing',
drop the hammer, and manually cocking rotates the cylinder, or a
"double action" revolver where the cock and cylinder actions are
combined into the trigger. The latter takes a longer, using more
force, trigger pull.

A semi-automatic has the light trigger pull of the single action and
the auto loading makes it (allegedly) 'faster' than manual, although
I've seen experts who could fire a double action faster than a
semi-auto, AND on target. (and also speed load as fast as a clip ).

Most people, you included it would seem, probably presume a 'pistol'
is necessarily a semi-automatic (assuming they know a 'pistol' is not
a revolver and vice versa), since that's what it most likely would be
these days, but "semi-automatic pistol" is the correct term. (fully
automatic would be a "machine pistol").

On top of that, your link is a poor example of the 'hysteria' claim
because I couldn't find anything but "handgun" (and unspecified
'rifle') mentioned in it.

'Media hype' is more generally the hysterical use of semi-automatic
"assault rifle," as if 'military looking' has any consequence. The
definition of "assault rifle" requires select fire so any
semi-automatic, regardless of what it looks like, it NOT an "assault
rifle." (the 1994 ban got around this 'problem' by coining the new
term "assault weapon" as a semi-automatic with 'scary' features like a
folding stock and pistol grip. A bayonet mount was another 'scary
feature' and you see how many 'mass gorings' there've been from them.)

Almost all of these nut case crimes happened because "medical privacy"
rules prevent disclosure that would have prevented qualification to
buy a weapon.

And look at the Fort Hood case... Hasan was outwardly hostile against
"infidels", but the record was suppressed because of FEAR of
infringing the civil rights of some Islamic nutcase. Now the trial
is delayed while he appeals to keep his beard. Shoot the @#$%^& and
get it over with.

...Jim Thompson

"Flipper" (a pseudonym for pansy, wimp and/or fairy) didn't address
anything but a dictionary definition that no one knows or cares about.

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:42:18 -0800, RosemontCrest
<rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 5:37 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:27:41 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 2:48 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:00:42 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 1:42 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:54:34 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 12:41 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:20:08 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson


Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.

Educate your own self.

Modern handguns AND old-fashioned revolvers fire exactly one round for
every squeeze of the trigger.

What in the world does that have to do with your assertion that media
lies by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic as defined by the BATFE.

That's the media's definition of "semi-automatic"...in their vain
attempt to equate all guns to the same as an AR15... which also fires
exactly one round for every squeeze of the trigger.

The media relies on bird-brains who equate shoot-em-up chase-scene
movies with reality.

Are you one of those? If so, I've got one "squeeze" for you >:-}

...Jim Thompson


Revolvers also fit the definition...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm

But "semi-automatic" is a scare word to intimidate the ignorant.

...Jim Thompson


What does that have to do with your erroneous assertion that media lies
by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic.

Only BATF calls them "semi-automatic"... the general public doesn't.

...Jim Thompson

You just contradicted yourself. Media accurately refers to the weapons
used as "semi-automatic," as do many more within the general public than
you may believe.

By the way, a revolver is not a semi-automatic weapon. Try reading again
with the goal of comprehension the Wiki article that you cited.


The general public doesn't have a clue, that's our problem.

...Jim Thompson

Evidently, you don't have a clue. That's your problem. ;-)

No, my "problem" just went away.

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

On Dec 15, 7:39 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:28:01 +0100, tuinkabouter
dachthetn...@net.invalid> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 8:56 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Is this important?

In the US on average three kids are killed every day by firearms.
What would you do about that?

So?  Ninety people die every day in an automobile accident... many of
them children.  I say require a thorough test, perhaps like Formula-V
qualification, before you can buy a car; and require a 5-point harness
for the driver and all passengers >:-}

   They also need to do away with all swimming pools, bicycles, forks,
knives, gasoline, people with a sub-normal IQ and liberals.

Don't forget hospitals--they kill (iatrogenic) roughly 100k a year.
Didn't that guy use a car too? That shouldn't be allowed, either.

It doesn't help that the media's making the dead guy a big celebrity /
anti-hero. That's why they do it. The media encourages these things,
more than anything else.

James Arthur

 

On Dec 15, 7:38 pm, "Charles" <charlesschu...@comcast.net> wrote:

I do not quite get the car analogy.  Only a few nuts use cars to
indiscriminately kill other humans.  Lots of nuts use guns to do that.

If he didn't have a car, he couldn't have done all the things he did.

James Arthur

 

On Saturday, December 15, 2012 4:28:01 PM UTC-5, tuinkabouter wrote:

On 12/15/2012 8:56 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:

More Media Lies



The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were

pistols...



http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv



Is this important?



In the US on average three kids are killed every day by firearms.

What would you do about that?

That is a bullsh_t misrepresentation statistic. The so-called "kids" in question are ethnic minority gang bangers who would just as soon kill you as look at you. That problem goes under a different heading from gun control.

 

[Martin Riddle]

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote
in message news:kclpc85a4d6t9rgj8gg0frhprfrn6319o3@4ax.com...

More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

Reading all the News outlets stories, it seems no one knows what guns
were used.
The coroner says the kids died from the 223, but the others say the 223
was in the car trunk.

Poor reporting if you ask me.

The kid was a crack pot, and the mother probably kept her guns under her
sweaters.
A recipe for disaster.
At least remove the firing pins.


Cheers

 

On Dec 15, 3:47 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:12:47 +0000, Syd Rumpo <use...@nononono.co.uk
wrote:

On 15/12/2012 19:56, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv


Well, that's very comforting, thanks.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution was put there to allow the
public to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Yep. In my area, citizens successfully defending themselves make the
news fairly often. Nobody seems to count those.

The greater problem is societal--fully-armed Switzerland doesn't seem
to have any problems.

NIH (Nat'l Institute of Health) explains homicides thusly:
"Sociologists feel that the increase of gangs, teenage homicide,
teenage suicide, teenage pregnancy, school drop-out, and other
problems are a reflection of a rapidly changing society and family
structure."

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm

--
James Arthur

 

[miso]

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:

More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

Except your link doesn't say automatic. Further, a Glock is a
semi-automatic:

http://us.glock.com/technology

The .223 is to breach body armor, though the press doesn't mention that.

If you listen to the NRA news (XM Patriot or podcast), the fucking
chicken shits never do a newscast when these mass murders take place.
They go quiet, then in a day or two they start foaming at the mouth
about Obama taking away their guns. The NRA is simply an embarrassment
to decent gun owners.

As it turns out, the mother in Sandy Hook was killed by her own weapon.
Some shit for brains don't believe in gun safes.