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More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson
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On 15/12/2012 19:56, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

Well, that's very comforting, thanks.

--
Syd
 
On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson
Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:20:08 -0800, RosemontCrest
<rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson


Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.
Educate your own self.

Modern handguns AND old-fashioned revolvers fire exactly one round for
every squeeze of the trigger.

That's the media's definition of "semi-automatic"... in their vain
attempt to equate all guns to the same as an AR15... which also fires
exactly one round for every squeeze of the trigger.

The media relies on bird-brains who equate shoot-em-up chase-scene
movies with reality.

Are you one of those? If so, I've got one "squeeze" for you >:-}

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:12:47 +0000, Syd Rumpo <usenet@nononono.co.uk>
wrote:

On 15/12/2012 19:56, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

Well, that's very comforting, thanks.
The Second Amendment to the Constitution was put there to allow the
public to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

We now have a tyrannical government. That's why gun sales are at an
all-time high.

Are you comforted yet?

Ah, yes! I see that you are a UK'ey. How's the crime rate in London?
Or Liverpool? Or Manchester?

Compare to Arizona, where we're heavily armed.

...Jim Thompson
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On 12/15/2012 12:41 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:20:08 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson


Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.

Educate your own self.

Modern handguns AND old-fashioned revolvers fire exactly one round for
every squeeze of the trigger.
What in the world does that have to do with your assertion that media
lies by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic as defined by the BATFE.

That's the media's definition of "semi-automatic"...in their vain
attempt to equate all guns to the same as an AR15... which also fires
exactly one round for every squeeze of the trigger.

The media relies on bird-brains who equate shoot-em-up chase-scene
movies with reality.

Are you one of those? If so, I've got one "squeeze" for you >:-}

...Jim Thompson
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:56:43 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson
The media certainly has a responsibility for accuracy, but here the
real problem to be addressed is the unnecessary widespread
availability of guns to people who not only do not have a need, but
rely on the 'right to bear arms'. Rights also have responsibilities,
and the government should seriously get on and properly restrict
access to firearms. Semiautomatic are obviously a potential problem,
but even single shot are highly dangerous.

Peter
 
"Peter" <peter@arin.htlm.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:56:43 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

The media certainly has a responsibility for accuracy, but here the
real problem to be addressed is the unnecessary widespread
availability of guns to people who not only do not have a need, but
rely on the 'right to bear arms'. Rights also have responsibilities,
and the government should seriously get on and properly restrict
access to firearms. Semiautomatic are obviously a potential problem,
but even single shot are highly dangerous.

Peter
All guns are deadly in the hands of a maniac so who cares if they are
auto/semi/single shot ?
get a life you lot and think of the deceased :(
 
On 12/15/2012 8:56 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv
Is this important?

In the US on average three kids are killed every day by firearms.
What would you do about that?
 
Peter wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:56:43 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

The media certainly has a responsibility for accuracy, but here the
real problem to be addressed is the unnecessary widespread
availability of guns to people who not only do not have a need, but
rely on the 'right to bear arms'. Rights also have responsibilities,
and the government should seriously get on and properly restrict
access to firearms.
Define "properly". Even define a proper trade-space for any
given regulation. Factor in that people can move guns across state
lines.

If you can do it, you'd be the first.

Semiautomatic are obviously a potential problem,
but even single shot are highly dangerous.

Peter
--
Les Cargil
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:54:34 -0800, RosemontCrest
<rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 12:41 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:20:08 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson


Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.

Educate your own self.

Modern handguns AND old-fashioned revolvers fire exactly one round for
every squeeze of the trigger.

What in the world does that have to do with your assertion that media
lies by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic as defined by the BATFE.

That's the media's definition of "semi-automatic"...in their vain
attempt to equate all guns to the same as an AR15... which also fires
exactly one round for every squeeze of the trigger.

The media relies on bird-brains who equate shoot-em-up chase-scene
movies with reality.

Are you one of those? If so, I've got one "squeeze" for you >:-}

...Jim Thompson
Revolvers also fit the definition...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm

But "semi-automatic" is a scare word to intimidate the ignorant.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On 12/15/2012 1:41 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Are you one of those? If so, I've got one "squeeze" for you >:-}

...Jim Thompson
The Mental health people say that people with mental issues will fester
with grudges that will one day snap.

And some of those people buy weapons waiting for the right time to snap.

Does that sound like some one we know ??

h
 
On 12/15/2012 2:28 PM, tuinkabouter wrote:
On 12/15/2012 8:56 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Is this important?

In the US on average three kids are killed every day by firearms.
What would you do about that?


He wants to join in on the fun.
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:07:40 -0000, "TTman" <pcw1.cad@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

"Peter" <peter@arin.htlm.com> wrote in message
news:qnopc8t93blhs5o96j4qclm92js3plq2mh@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:56:43 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

The media certainly has a responsibility for accuracy, but here the
real problem to be addressed is the unnecessary widespread
availability of guns to people who not only do not have a need, but
rely on the 'right to bear arms'. Rights also have responsibilities,
and the government should seriously get on and properly restrict
access to firearms. Semiautomatic are obviously a potential problem,
but even single shot are highly dangerous.

Peter

All guns are deadly in the hands of a maniac so who cares if they are
auto/semi/single shot ?
get a life you lot and think of the deceased :(
What pistol is NOT "semi-automatic", except perhaps a single-barrel
Derringer?

Almost all of these nut case crimes happened because "medical privacy"
rules prevent disclosure that would have prevented qualification to
buy a weapon.

And look at the Fort Hood case... Hasan was outwardly hostile against
"infidels", but the record was suppressed because of FEAR of
infringing the civil rights of some Islamic nutcase. Now the trial
is delayed while he appeals to keep his beard. Shoot the @#$%^& and
get it over with.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 22:28:01 +0100, tuinkabouter
<dachthetniet@net.invalid> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 8:56 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

Is this important?

In the US on average three kids are killed every day by firearms.
What would you do about that?
So? Ninety people die every day in an automobile accident... many of
them children. I say require a thorough test, perhaps like Formula-V
qualification, before you can buy a car; and require a 5-point harness
for the driver and all passengers >:-}

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On 12/15/2012 1:42 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:54:34 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 12:41 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:20:08 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson


Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.

Educate your own self.

Modern handguns AND old-fashioned revolvers fire exactly one round for
every squeeze of the trigger.

What in the world does that have to do with your assertion that media
lies by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic as defined by the BATFE.

That's the media's definition of "semi-automatic"...in their vain
attempt to equate all guns to the same as an AR15... which also fires
exactly one round for every squeeze of the trigger.

The media relies on bird-brains who equate shoot-em-up chase-scene
movies with reality.

Are you one of those? If so, I've got one "squeeze" for you >:-}

...Jim Thompson


Revolvers also fit the definition...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm

But "semi-automatic" is a scare word to intimidate the ignorant.

...Jim Thompson
What does that have to do with your erroneous assertion that media lies
by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic.
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:42:58 -0700, hamilton <hamilton@nothere.com>
wrote:

Does that sound like
Sounds like yer an idiot, child.
 
On 12/15/2012 3:03 PM, ChairmanOfTheBored wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:42:58 -0700, hamilton <hamilton@nothere.com
wrote:


Does that sound like

Sounds like yer an idiot, child.

And your still a liar.
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:00:42 -0800, RosemontCrest
<rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 1:42 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:54:34 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 12:41 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:20:08 -0800, RosemontCrest
rosemontcrest@yahoo.com> wrote:

On 12/15/2012 11:56 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson


Educate yourself. A pistol is a semi-automatic handgun, not to be
confused with a revolver.

Educate your own self.

Modern handguns AND old-fashioned revolvers fire exactly one round for
every squeeze of the trigger.

What in the world does that have to do with your assertion that media
lies by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic as defined by the BATFE.

That's the media's definition of "semi-automatic"...in their vain
attempt to equate all guns to the same as an AR15... which also fires
exactly one round for every squeeze of the trigger.

The media relies on bird-brains who equate shoot-em-up chase-scene
movies with reality.

Are you one of those? If so, I've got one "squeeze" for you >:-}

...Jim Thompson


Revolvers also fit the definition...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm

But "semi-automatic" is a scare word to intimidate the ignorant.

...Jim Thompson


What does that have to do with your erroneous assertion that media lies
by calling the weapons used "semi-automatic?" The weapons used are
indeed semi-automatic.
Only BATF calls them "semi-automatic"... the general public doesn't.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:51:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 21:07:40 -0000, "TTman" <pcw1.cad@ntlworld.com
wrote:


"Peter" <peter@arin.htlm.com> wrote in message
news:qnopc8t93blhs5o96j4qclm92js3plq2mh@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 12:56:43 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

More Media Lies

The media keeps saying "semi-automatic", but all weapons used were
pistols...

http://tinyurl.com/d35ffhv

...Jim Thompson

The media certainly has a responsibility for accuracy, but here the
real problem to be addressed is the unnecessary widespread
availability of guns to people who not only do not have a need, but
rely on the 'right to bear arms'. Rights also have responsibilities,
and the government should seriously get on and properly restrict
access to firearms. Semiautomatic are obviously a potential problem,
but even single shot are highly dangerous.

Peter

All guns are deadly in the hands of a maniac so who cares if they are
auto/semi/single shot ?
get a life you lot and think of the deceased :(


What pistol is NOT "semi-automatic", except perhaps a single-barrel
Derringer?
Flintlock pistols, non-rotating multi-barrel pistols, pepperbox
revolvers, harmonica pistols, and cartridge equivalents.

I'm afraid you're just wrong here, Jim. A "pistol" has the chamber
integral with the barrel, which was the 'original' means of making a
handgun, and the 'revolver', where the chambers rotate behind a fixed
barrel, was the departure.

Semi-automatic means the mechanism itself, independent of human
action, cycles the next round and prepares the weapon for the next
shot (cocking) rather than it being done by manual means, such as in a
"single action" revolver where the trigger does 'one (single) thing',
drop the hammer, and manually cocking rotates the cylinder, or a
"double action" revolver where the cock and cylinder actions are
combined into the trigger. The latter takes a longer, using more
force, trigger pull.

A semi-automatic has the light trigger pull of the single action and
the auto loading makes it (allegedly) 'faster' than manual, although
I've seen experts who could fire a double action faster than a
semi-auto, AND on target. (and also speed load as fast as a clip ).

Most people, you included it would seem, probably presume a 'pistol'
is necessarily a semi-automatic (assuming they know a 'pistol' is not
a revolver and vice versa), since that's what it most likely would be
these days, but "semi-automatic pistol" is the correct term. (fully
automatic would be a "machine pistol").

On top of that, your link is a poor example of the 'hysteria' claim
because I couldn't find anything but "handgun" (and unspecified
'rifle') mentioned in it.

'Media hype' is more generally the hysterical use of semi-automatic
"assault rifle," as if 'military looking' has any consequence. The
definition of "assault rifle" requires select fire so any
semi-automatic, regardless of what it looks like, it NOT an "assault
rifle." (the 1994 ban got around this 'problem' by coining the new
term "assault weapon" as a semi-automatic with 'scary' features like a
folding stock and pistol grip. A bayonet mount was another 'scary
feature' and you see how many 'mass gorings' there've been from them.)

Almost all of these nut case crimes happened because "medical privacy"
rules prevent disclosure that would have prevented qualification to
buy a weapon.

And look at the Fort Hood case... Hasan was outwardly hostile against
"infidels", but the record was suppressed because of FEAR of
infringing the civil rights of some Islamic nutcase. Now the trial
is delayed while he appeals to keep his beard. Shoot the @#$%^& and
get it over with.

...Jim Thompson
 

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