magnetic field

[Richard Crowley]

"Garrett Mace" wrote ...

Has anyone experimented with these materials for hobbyist use for
mounting BGA chips. Anyone know where a roll of this anisotropic
conducting film could be bought. It seems like this would be a method
to allow the hobbyst to experiment with BGA and other high pin density
components that are so common now.

PCBexpress will sell you a metal stencil to allow you to
"screen-print" solder paste onto your PC board, place the
SMD, and then reflow in a <$100 domestic toaster oven.
List of suggested appliances provided...
http://www.pcbexpress.com/stencils/index.php

 

[Garrett Mace]

"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote in message
news:vlkeduhem4v040@corp.supernews.com...

"Garrett Mace" wrote ...
Has anyone experimented with these materials for hobbyist use for
mounting BGA chips. Anyone know where a roll of this anisotropic
conducting film could be bought. It seems like this would be a method
to allow the hobbyst to experiment with BGA and other high pin density
components that are so common now.

PCBexpress will sell you a metal stencil to allow you to
"screen-print" solder paste onto your PC board, place the
SMD, and then reflow in a <$100 domestic toaster oven.
List of suggested appliances provided...
http://www.pcbexpress.com/stencils/index.php

I know about PCBExpress's stencils, but I don't believe they say anything
about it being possible to do BGAs with that method. For regular SMDs I
don't have any difficulty just using a hot-air reflow system ($20 heat gun)
and fine-tipped soldering iron.

This anisotropic stuff would basically be a thin sheet of material that you
would cut to size and place between a BGA and the pad grid. With a little
bit of heat, the material softens a bit and allows an adhesive bond and the
BGA balls embed themselves into the material. Then the anisotropic
properties ensure that conductivity from each ball only goes straight down,
where the corresponding pad is located.

Several things that must be considered:

1) Conductivity. Most similar material I've seen is a plastic or rubber with
conductive material mixed in. There's some resistance there which might be a
problem, especially with power connections.

2) Thermal conductivity (related to above). If the BGA heats up at all,
there is no metal path for heat to wick away from the device. May require
more attention to heatsinking.

3) Thermal stability. If the film bonds at a low temperature, will it become
soft if the BGA produces heat, or the board is in a hot environment?
Obviously 200C is well above operating limits, but I'd wonder if it would
get soft enough to slowly shift.

4) Positioning accuracy. A major benefit of BGA is that you can be as much
as half a ball-width away from target, and the ball surface tension effect
will realign the device. With this film, you'll need to be able to
accurately position the device without the benefit of self-positioning. This
can end up being a challenge, considering the size of many BGA devices.

 

[Garrett Mace]

"pillip" <pillip@pillip.com> wrote in message
news:604f13e967572c70d5f8b807d0edcabd@news.teranews.com...

Thanks

I took the whole thing apart and soldered it again. It's working
flawlessly,
although I hope there is no electrical risk involved as I only covered the
wires with electrical tape.

Good to hear. But perhaps you should find some flexible armored conduit to
put around that cable for the next time your kids find the wirecutters! ;-)

 

[Eugene Rosenzweig]

Get positive PCB, e.g. Kinsten stuff.
Get transparencies for ink jet or laser printer (whichever you will use).
Print the artwork you design onto the transparency.
Transfer transparency onto the board using UV lights if you can get one or
sun/normal light. I never used sun or normal light so I do not know what
kind of exposure is needed.
Remove the unexposed UV-sensitive layer with sodium carbonate (can be bought
from supermarket here, used for foot baths, water softener, etc...).
Etch with ammonium pesulphate or sodium persulphate or sodium/potassium
hydroxide, heated. Use ferric chloride if you do not need to heat but it is
very messy stuff, we never use it anymore. We use ammonnium persulphate, its
clean. Need to have a ventilated room though.
Remove the hardened protective material from the top of the tracks with
metho/wood alcohol - leave the board in it for 5 mins and the stuff just
falls off.
Finish off by applying lacquer to the board - protects it from oxidation.

For design I can recommend Eagle - it has its quirky but it produces good
artwork, has everything that expensive software has and it is very stable in
my experience.

Don't cross-post, it is bad form.

Design
"Jeff Zimmerman" <jrz126@psu.edu> wrote in message
news:cb2e8c1d.0309060517.1757ed8c@posting.google.com...

I'm a 2nd year EE student, and I have a general background in
electronics. I'm trtying to get started in making my own circuit
boards. I've done some research on the web, but there is too much out
there.

Can anyone recommend what to buy, and where to buy it. I'd like to
make double-sided boards, but I'll settle for single-sided. I'm a poor
college student so I can't spend too much.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

In article <1fhfg2c8caq43.1mt9cxd8kcsur$.dlg@40tude.net>, pmg3
@op.plNOSPAM says...
| How should I change the resistors R1, R2 and R3 in
| http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/895
| if I want to obtain a 5V-30V voltage range instead of 24V-70V???
|

The potential divider R2/R3 sets the voltage of feedback to pin 3, with
some offset available via 'Control Input' of R1.

For experimental purposes the best way to do it would be to replace R2
+ R3 with a potentiometer of 200 to 300k Ohms, attaching the middle
sliding contact of the pot to pin 3.

The more the potentiometer slider is adjusted towards ground, the
higher the voltage output will be. The more it is adjusted towards the
positive output, the lower the output voltage will be.

Once you have found a setting for the experimental potentiometer with
which you are happy, measure the values either side of the sliding pin
and fit fixed values of resistance in its place.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT)...

Remove the 'NOSPAM' in my email address to reply.

Free Amateur Radio Courses:-
http://www.ukradioamateur.org

 

[Jon]

Make sure your ground cable is the same and shield is where its supposed
to be. Some of the VGA cables are not properly shielded if theyre
cheapies (price not a guide)Get an old seconhand monitor, rip out its
cable and do it again otherwise. PS Lock your kids up! You sure it wasnt
your missus?

pillip wrote:

My kids severed the signal cable from the monitor to the video card, so I
bought a SVGA Monitor cable and tried soldering the wires together. I have
managed to get the proper display, but the picture has a blue tinge to it.
Here is what I did:

From Monitor Cable (9 wires) To SVGA Cable (13
wires)
Red Video
Red Video
Green Video
Green Video
Blue Video
Blue Video
Yellow (Pin 14 V Sync) Black (Pin
14 V Sync)
White (Pin 13 H Sync) Yellow (Pin
13 H Sync)
Green (Pin 10 Sync Gnd) Black Yellow (Pin 10
Sync Gnd)
Brown (Pin 5 Gnd) Orange (Pin 5 Gnd) + White
Orange (Pin 5 Gnd)
Red (Pin 15 SCI)
White Red (Pin 15 SCI)
Orange (Pin 12 SDA) Red
(Pin 12 SDA)
White Video Gnd
White Brown (Pin 11)
Red Video Gnd
Red Video Gnd
Green Video Gnd
Green Video Gnd
Blue Video Gnd
Blue Video Gnd

The only wire left in the SVGA cable bundle is the brown wire (pin 4 Frame
Gnd). I would be grateful if you could help me out here. Taking the Monitor
to a service company is not an option.

 

[WEBPA]

In article <slrnblnkht.36g.don@manx.misty.com>, don@manx.misty.com
mentioned...
In article <MPG.19c55cece31cc049989718@news.dslextreme.com>, Watson A.Name
- "Watt Sun" wrote in part:

I tore apart a couple 9V batteries and found that usually 5 out of the
6 AAAA cells inside were not dead, usually only one cell was bad and
caused the battery to fail.

I've been putting those halfway good cells in the battery holder and
running a V boost circuit to drive a white LED. I put one in the
holder and it might have a beginning voltage of 1.35 or so volts, and
I let it run until it is well below a volt, usually below .8V.

What gets me is the every single cell fails by the same process. The
top (negative) contact pops open and the cell leaks some juice, and of
course the contact doesn't make contact with the inside of the cell.

This means to me that every 9V battery will fail and leak juice inside
of the radio, usually corroding the contacts and doing other damage.
This is something that I feel shouldn't happen. The cells shouldn't
make a mess or do damage.

But every single cell has failed in this same way. Doesn't this seem
to be a defect that should not happen, or rarely happen? Has anyone
else verified this?

Do you care to post the brand and age of the battery? Others chiming in
I also ask to post the brand and the age. This problem may be specific to
one or some brands and to cells that are at least whatever many years old.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

I believe one was an Enercell (rat shack) and one was an Energizer.
But I threw away the casings since they were sharp, torn metal, so
that's from memory. The batteries are identical.

Have you considered the possibility that the packaging you discarded
("casings") is specifically designed to work with the cells inside to prevent
leakage? And to prevent explosions when the cell is shorted or reversed
(charged)?

When you removed the cells, you essentially guaranteed they would leak.

This is not a design flaw. It is a "user failure".
webpa

 

[Andre]

"Garrett Mace" <g.ryan@macetech.com> wrote in message news:<EJr6b.43282$hf1.19614@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...

"pillip" <pillip@pillip.com> wrote in message
news:604f13e967572c70d5f8b807d0edcabd@news.teranews.com...
Thanks

I took the whole thing apart and soldered it again. It's working
flawlessly,
although I hope there is no electrical risk involved as I only covered the
wires with electrical tape.


Good to hear. But perhaps you should find some flexible armored conduit to
put around that cable for the next time your kids find the wirecutters! ;-)

My $0.02 worth . It is always better to repair at the VGA/SVGA plug
end as that way you get less of an impedance mismatch than soldering
halfway into the cable .

Either that or replace the entire lead . If you know what you are
doing this looks much neater .

-A

 

[2n2369]

why do you try on new version openoffice1.1 ?
http://openoffice.org
or
easyoffice5.4
http://www.e-press.com/


BY 2n2369

 

[WEBPA]

The new version of open office is pretty good I hear
You have to run Linux of course

Richard

I run Open Office on Windows 2000...very fast; files are not 100% compatible
with older Office suite. But maybe I don't have the latest Open Office:
Downloaded ~Jan 2003.
webpa

 

[Michael Hofmann]

Rob wrote:

I have designed a simple circuitry to resolve a problem. I want to
mass produce it as a product for sale. However, I do not want to
produce it on an unprotected PCB board for fear of being copied. I
would like to hear your opinion about what might be the solution.

Pot it. This way it might be cheaper to buy your product instead of
reverse engineering it.

Michael

 

[Mike Harrison]

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:16:59 +0200, Michael Hofmann <westbound@gmx.net> wrote:

Rob wrote:

I have designed a simple circuitry to resolve a problem. I want to
mass produce it as a product for sale. However, I do not want to
produce it on an unprotected PCB board for fear of being copied. I
would like to hear your opinion about what might be the solution.

Pot it. This way it might be cheaper to buy your product instead of
reverse engineering it.

Potting for security, like scrubbing numbers off chips, is a waste of time, and a lot of hassle.
If someone really wanter to copy it it would add maybe a day to the process.

It costs you more than it ocsts any potential copyer.

 

[Johannes Bauer]

On 15 Sep 2003 09:22:17 -0700, richardgrise@yahoo.com (Rich Grise)
wrote:

[All BS snipped]

I'm a hacker, and a consultant,
and have been poking around with computers and stuff since the days
when you could actually SEE the components you were working with.

All your cursing reveals you're a total moron, not a "hacker". If
you're too stupid to get your computer to work with Windows, try
Linux. Although I can hardly believe Linux is something you ever heard
of.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Joe

 

[lexderr]

Try Supertronics in S. Renton or Tukwilla. They have most everything.

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:44:07 -0000, Art <particleflux@x-mail.net>
wrote:

Does any one know where in Seattle to get cheap discrete parts &
components besides Radio Shack? I'm looking for stuff for projects like;
Resistors, Capacitors, Inductors, Transformers, Diodes, Transistors, IC's,
etc.

The selection at Radio Shack is to small and the parts they have are
relatively outrageously expensive. There used to be a shop here in town
called Radar Inc. but they moved way out to Redmond putting the price of
gas to get there into the mix. I tried Westlake Electronic but they told
me on the phone that there hesitant and unwilling to cater to the small
home electronics hobbyist any more.

Know of any surplus or inexpensive shops within Seattle? Any one feel
like opening a shop in Seattle?

-Art
particleflux@x-mail.net

 

[DarkMatter]

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:17:31 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
Gave us:

That is also where the most field is. DOH!

Nope, not on the inside surface of the case it aint.

if said case surface is in proximity to a strong radiating field, it
is influenced and becomes an attractor for particulate, so yes... it
is also a candidate for accumulation.

 

[Terry]

Robert Monsen threw some tea leaves on the floor
and this is what they wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote in message
news:doanmvkkss6qgn2mchnk2s2uru8lq68lkr@4ax.com...
In a moment of mental weakness this afternoon I updated my Win2K to
the latest Service Packs/Security Levels.

In the process Outhouse Excuse was installed.

Anyone know of a way to uninstall it, or at least render it neutered?

Thanks!

Oddly, after years of using Eudora and Netscape, I find myself using Outlook
Express, Internet Explorer etc.

Its the simplest thing to use, handles html messages and pictures
seamlessly, and, with a bit of virus protection software, isn't any more
dangerous than running sendmail on your linux system, particularly if you
use a firewall.

Except that Sendmail is only one of a number of similar apps that
run on GNU/Linux. I haven't used Sendmail in six years. Postfix or Exim
are much easier to configure than sendmail.

Its also free, which I like. Like most MS software, its annoying, hopeless
crap, but its about 2% more cost effective to use than the alternatives.
They design to their market, which is an admirable thing from a business
standpoint (although how engineers can live with themselves after doing it
year after year is beyond me. Must be a corporate culture thing.)

The only reason they get hit so often with viruses/worms is that the huge
installed base makes them a target.

Negative, that's only a theory, and one usually pushed by MICROS~1
advocates.

Other theories are that MICROS~1 actually makes the virus writers job
easier by allowing users to execute programs received by email.

Having worked for Apple in the past, I
know that their stuff is just as hopeless internally (actually, maybe more
so), and just as open to viral infection; its just that the 5% installed
base makes them far less attractive to the assholes who write these things.
Linux, being open, is always getting hit,

Please explain "Linux, being open, is always getting hit" ?

GNU/Linux has a total of about 7 viruses/worms compared to the 60,000
Windows viruses.

its just not as big news when it
happens.

And it doesn't cost *millions* of dollars either, in the way that
Code-red, Nimda, Slapper, Sobig etc did, or the cute new MICROS~1 only virus
that's filling up many email boxes with up to 700 emails a day right now.

--
Kind Regards from Terry
My Desktop is powered by GNU/LinuX, Gentoo-1.4_rc2
New Homepage: http://milkstone.d2.net.au/
** Linux Registration Number: 103931, http://counter.li.org **

 

[Ralph Wade Phillips]

Howdy!

"Terry" <tjporter@gronk.porter.net> wrote in message
news:tpdv31-5ou.ln1@gronk.porter.net...

Robert Monsen threw some tea leaves on the floor
and this is what they wrote:


"Jim Thompson" <Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote in message
news:doanmvkkss6qgn2mchnk2s2uru8lq68lkr@4ax.com...
In a moment of mental weakness this afternoon I updated my Win2K to
the latest Service Packs/Security Levels.

In the process Outhouse Excuse was installed.

Anyone know of a way to uninstall it, or at least render it neutered?

Thanks!

Oddly, after years of using Eudora and Netscape, I find myself using
Outlook
Express, Internet Explorer etc.

Its the simplest thing to use, handles html messages and pictures
seamlessly, and, with a bit of virus protection software, isn't any more
dangerous than running sendmail on your linux system, particularly if
you
use a firewall.

Except that Sendmail is only one of a number of similar apps that
run on GNU/Linux. I haven't used Sendmail in six years. Postfix or Exim
are much easier to configure than sendmail.

And Postfix and Exim have their own problems and bugs.

Its also free, which I like. Like most MS software, its annoying,
hopeless
crap, but its about 2% more cost effective to use than the alternatives.
They design to their market, which is an admirable thing from a business
standpoint (although how engineers can live with themselves after doing
it
year after year is beyond me. Must be a corporate culture thing.)

The only reason they get hit so often with viruses/worms is that the
huge
installed base makes them a target.

Negative, that's only a theory, and one usually pushed by MICROS~1
advocates.

Not just Microsoft advocates.

OTOH, there's been at least one month (July 2003) that there were
more exploits TRIED for open source than for Microsoft (Bugtraq reported
over 5,000 Linux exploit attempts, and about 1,000 Microsoft exploit
attempts. I'd do the math.)

To which you can add the spam relays in North Korea from using an
older Sendmail on a standard Linux install for all of their schools ...

Other theories are that MICROS~1 actually makes the virus writers job
easier by allowing users to execute programs received by email.

Heh. Strangely enough, that didn't originate with Microsoft.

Having worked for Apple in the past, I
know that their stuff is just as hopeless internally (actually, maybe
more
so), and just as open to viral infection; its just that the 5% installed
base makes them far less attractive to the assholes who write these
things.
Linux, being open, is always getting hit,

Please explain "Linux, being open, is always getting hit" ?

See the tracks on Sendmail on Linux in North Korea.

GNU/Linux has a total of about 7 viruses/worms compared to the 60,000
Windows viruses.

*cough* Sendmail. Not to mention, whereas it's not Linux based, the
Morris Worm (the FIRST Internet worm!) was out BEFORE Microsoft had servers.

its just not as big news when it
happens.

And it doesn't cost *millions* of dollars either, in the way that
Code-red, Nimda, Slapper, Sobig etc did, or the cute new MICROS~1 only
virus
that's filling up many email boxes with up to 700 emails a day right now.

(cough) Morris Worm. If it had hit with today's density, it would
have cost a LOT more to fix than it did.

Not to mention, the most recent worm / virus? Has bounced off of
almost every box I admin / set up. Only ONE of my customers was infected.
Strangely enough, as he ran the attachment, he thought "You know, Microsoft
doesn't send security patches out in email ... I ought not to have done
that."

SWEN is mostly social engineered - the hole that lets it self-run?
Has been known - AND has had a fix out! - for over two years.

--
Kind Regards from Terry
My Desktop is powered by GNU/LinuX, Gentoo-1.4_rc2

Seems strange - if you really want secure, look at BSD.

RwP

 

[Robert Monsen]

"Terry" <tjporter@gronk.porter.net> wrote in message
news:tpdv31-5ou.ln1@gronk.porter.net...

Robert Monsen threw some tea leaves on the floor
and this is what they wrote:


"Jim Thompson" <Jim-T@golana-will-get-you.com> wrote in message
news:doanmvkkss6qgn2mchnk2s2uru8lq68lkr@4ax.com...
In a moment of mental weakness this afternoon I updated my Win2K to
the latest Service Packs/Security Levels.

In the process Outhouse Excuse was installed.

Anyone know of a way to uninstall it, or at least render it neutered?

Thanks!

Oddly, after years of using Eudora and Netscape, I find myself using
Outlook
Express, Internet Explorer etc.

Its the simplest thing to use, handles html messages and pictures
seamlessly, and, with a bit of virus protection software, isn't any more
dangerous than running sendmail on your linux system, particularly if
you
use a firewall.

Except that Sendmail is only one of a number of similar apps that
run on GNU/Linux. I haven't used Sendmail in six years. Postfix or Exim
are much easier to configure than sendmail.


Its also free, which I like. Like most MS software, its annoying,
hopeless
crap, but its about 2% more cost effective to use than the alternatives.
They design to their market, which is an admirable thing from a business
standpoint (although how engineers can live with themselves after doing
it
year after year is beyond me. Must be a corporate culture thing.)

The only reason they get hit so often with viruses/worms is that the
huge
installed base makes them a target.

Negative, that's only a theory, and one usually pushed by MICROS~1
advocates.

Other theories are that MICROS~1 actually makes the virus writers job
easier by allowing users to execute programs received by email.

Having worked for Apple in the past, I
know that their stuff is just as hopeless internally (actually, maybe
more
so), and just as open to viral infection; its just that the 5% installed
base makes them far less attractive to the assholes who write these
things.
Linux, being open, is always getting hit,

Please explain "Linux, being open, is always getting hit" ?

GNU/Linux has a total of about 7 viruses/worms compared to the 60,000
Windows viruses.


its just not as big news when it
happens.

And it doesn't cost *millions* of dollars either, in the way that
Code-red, Nimda, Slapper, Sobig etc did, or the cute new MICROS~1 only
virus
that's filling up many email boxes with up to 700 emails a day right now.

--

Here are a couple of links that might interest you.

http://www.epistemelinks.com/Info/OpSys.aspx

http://www.xent.com/april00/0462.html

Regards,
Bob Monsen

 

[John Dyson]

"Ralph Wade Phillips" <ralphp@techie.com> wrote in message
news:bkj9eb$2amg9$1@ID-81734.news.uni-berlin.de...

SWEN is mostly social engineered - the hole that lets it self-run?
Has been known - AND has had a fix out! - for over two years.


--
Kind Regards from Terry
My Desktop is powered by GNU/LinuX, Gentoo-1.4_rc2

Seems strange - if you really want secure, look at BSD.

I was one of the major FreeBSD developers for several years (did

the VM code), and had mostly moved over to Microsoft until
recently (except for my servers.) Because of all of the security issues
nowadays, I am mostly moving back to FreeBSD, and this is probably
my last posting from Microsoft based OS software. (I'll still use
Microsoft OSes when I have to.)

The Microsoft stuff is simply a nightmare.

John

 

[Terry]

Ralph Wade Phillips threw some tea leaves on the floor
and this is what they wrote:

Howdy!

Hi there!

"Terry" <tjporter@gronk.porter.net> wrote in message
news:tpdv31-5ou.ln1@gronk.porter.net...
deletia
Except that Sendmail is only one of a number of similar apps that
run on GNU/Linux. I haven't used Sendmail in six years. Postfix or Exim
are much easier to configure than sendmail.

And Postfix and Exim have their own problems and bugs.

All software qualifies for the above statement, do you have anything
informative to say ?

Its also free, which I like. Like most MS software, its annoying,
hopeless
crap, but its about 2% more cost effective to use than the alternatives.
They design to their market, which is an admirable thing from a business
standpoint (although how engineers can live with themselves after doing
it
year after year is beyond me. Must be a corporate culture thing.)

The only reason they get hit so often with viruses/worms is that the
huge
installed base makes them a target.

Negative, that's only a theory, and one usually pushed by MICROS~1
advocates.

Not just Microsoft advocates.

Who else ?

OTOH, there's been at least one month (July 2003) that there were
more exploits TRIED for open source than for Microsoft (Bugtraq reported
over 5,000 Linux exploit attempts, and about 1,000 Microsoft exploit
attempts. I'd do the math.)

That's good news because given that there were more exploits TRIED for
open source than for Microsoft, and the Internet is reeling from the
MICROS~1 "swen" virus at the moment, with many users getting up to 700
emails from it, GNU/Linux is looking good.

To which you can add the spam relays in North Korea from using an
older Sendmail on a standard Linux install for all of their schools ...

Do you know any other word than "Sendmail" ?

If North Korea wants to use old versions of Sendmail, when the latest
one is free, no charge, gratis, how is that a GNU/Linux problem ?

Other theories are that MICROS~1 actually makes the virus writers job
easier by allowing users to execute programs received by email.

Heh. Strangely enough, that didn't originate with Microsoft.

Perhaps not, but it belongs with them now, they've earned it.

Having worked for Apple in the past, I
know that their stuff is just as hopeless internally (actually, maybe
more
so), and just as open to viral infection; its just that the 5% installed
base makes them far less attractive to the assholes who write these
things.
Linux, being open, is always getting hit,

Please explain "Linux, being open, is always getting hit" ?

See the tracks on Sendmail on Linux in North Korea.

Irrelevant.

GNU/Linux has a total of about 7 viruses/worms compared to the 60,000
Windows viruses.

*cough* Sendmail. Not to mention, whereas it's not Linux based, the
Morris Worm (the FIRST Internet worm!) was out BEFORE Microsoft had servers.

There is a bad echo here

Hahaha that's because the Internet was built on Unix. Microsoft is a
'johhny come lately" to the internet.

What has the Morris worm, a worm that caused havoc with NASA many years
ago, and which exploited a long closed vunerability got to do with this
?

its just not as big news when it
happens.

And it doesn't cost *millions* of dollars either, in the way that
Code-red, Nimda, Slapper, Sobig etc did, or the cute new MICROS~1 only
virus
that's filling up many email boxes with up to 700 emails a day right now.

(cough) Morris Worm. If it had hit with today's density, it would
have cost a LOT more to fix than it did.

It would have had no effect, the Morris worm is ancient Unix history.

Not to mention, the most recent worm / virus? Has bounced off of
almost every box I admin / set up.

Unfortunately current stats claim that 1.5 *million* MICROS~1 Windows
boxes are infected at the moment.

Only ONE of my customers was infected.
Strangely enough, as he ran the attachment, he thought "You know, Microsoft
doesn't send security patches out in email ... I ought not to have done
that."

Its a pity that the other 1.5 million MICROS~1 Windows didn't do the
same.

SWEN is mostly social engineered

Damn good social engineering it appears.

- the hole that lets it self-run?
Has been known - AND has had a fix out! - for over two years.

Then why have 1.5 million MICROS~1 Windows boxes been infected ?

If a fix that has been out 2 years hasn't been applied, their must be
reasons ?

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Kind Regards from Terry
My Desktop is powered by GNU/LinuX, Gentoo-1.4_rc2

Seems strange - if you really want secure, look at BSD.

Compared to MICROS~1 Windows, my GNU/Linux desktop has 8500 times
better security, that will do me fine thanks.

(7/60,000 worms/viruses)



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