Jihad needs scientists

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:55:18 -0500, unsettled <unsettled@nonsense.com
wrote:


Not true, IMO. African hatreds are much like American
ones, passed from one generation to the next without
understanding, as in "Damn Yankees burned the south!"

I've lived in the South, the northeast, and the West, and traveled all
over, and I know of no US regional hatreds. There's some mild
stereotyping, like Californians are goofy and Vermonters are austere
and Bostonians drive badly, stuff like that, but usually based in
fact.

Yes. The Hatfields and McCoys made up *years* ago.

Eric Lucas

 

[unsettled]

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Your nation is led by a President who is overtly seek guidance from God.
That would frighten me. The UK PM is a devout Catholic. That offends me

Not clear to me why it should offend you, unless he has begun inflicting his
religious beliefs on his performance in office...and I haven't seen signs of
that, but then again, I'm not privy to much of what the UK government does,
day to day.

Because he thinks there's some significant difference between
the Church of England (which he mistakenly calls Protestant)
and Roman Catholicism.

and there are (currently) significant checks and balances to prevent a
religious upsurge.

Used to be here, too. W has been slowly dismantling those, all on the basis
of unfounded fear.

Eric Lucas

 

[unsettled]

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If you want to hang a label on me, try this one:

Radical Fundamentalist American

Why not join me! Leave all the political parties in
the dust.

Because your type disgust me?

You just made my day!

I guess you better learn the Niemoeller song so you
can chant it later.

 

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"unsettled" <unsettled@nonsense.com> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:

If the West changed to Islamic based societies life would continue
largely as normal.

Normal in Islamic based societies is brothers killing
brothers in religious fanaticism, thank you very much!

Proof, please.

Pay attention to what's happeing in the world right
now and read some non-western history.


A few wackos are attacking innocents. How exactly does that equate to
"Normal in Islamic based societies is brothers killing brothers"? You
need to learn to think critically, and not tar an entire society by the
actions of a few.

You cited half a million Iraqui dead.

How many were killed by the west, and how many by
your terribly mischaracterized "a few wackos?"


Those wackos wouldn't be there if we hadn't invaded. Here's a clue: they
*weren't* there before we invaded.

1) They are all Muslims. AFAIC, they represent a singular
entity

2) Where were they before, destined to do terror attacks
on the US mainland?

3) Part of the Iraqi action is to create a honey pot. It has
been working. Those wackos would be killing someone somewhere.
It might as well be someone other than us.

Might as well get used to Machevellian logic, there's
plenty coming at us down the pipe.

 

[unsettled]

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Who ever morphed into "unsettled"

[snip]

That's an interesting supposition. I've been thinking this unsettled clown
is some sort of unearthly love child of JoeBloe and that Michael Terrell
fellow, only with less ability to reason.

Eric Lucas


Obviously whatever you two idiots think about me is of no

consequence. Have your fun.

 

[unsettled]

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T Wake wrote:


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I'm not going to deal with this one.

So why make any post? Why not just ignore it?

Because she had a point to make, and made it.


What was that...that she's in the habit of ignoring facts that she finds to
be "inconvenient" in the face of her most tenaciously held fallacious
assumptions?

Oh shoot, I can't follow your example?

Oh, and you can drop the third person. We already caught you once mixing up
your aliases.

You're a funny little turd, you are. So there's BAH, and
there's me, and then there's some third entity that's
the two of us combined? LOL

I *knew* you're living in a strange alternative reality!

You simply can't believe that there are actually two
somewhat disparate individuals on usenet who actually
dare to disagree with you? ROTFL

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:36:23 GMT, <lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:55:18 -0500, unsettled <unsettled@nonsense.com
wrote:


Not true, IMO. African hatreds are much like American
ones, passed from one generation to the next without
understanding, as in "Damn Yankees burned the south!"

I've lived in the South, the northeast, and the West, and traveled all
over, and I know of no US regional hatreds. There's some mild
stereotyping, like Californians are goofy and Vermonters are austere
and Bostonians drive badly, stuff like that, but usually based in
fact.

Yes. The Hatfields and McCoys made up *years* ago.

Yup, over a hundred years ago. And their feud wasn't very regional.

John

 

[unsettled]

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T Wake distorts as only a Muslim can:

snip

The argument in this thread is that the current plans were wrong.

That's one of many many arguments in this thread.


It appears that the military chain of command are coming to think that as
well.

It is election season and the republicans are in
trouble there.


Yep, and that would explaing the upswing in fear-mongering and showings of
the 9/11 video footage. The Republicans haven't a leg to stand on with the
real issues, so they choose to use fear-mongering instead.

Clearly whatever works in love & war....

 

[unsettled]

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Yet you allow, and encourage, capitalist extremism to prosper.


C'mon, BAH, first you say that Europe is socialist, then you say that it's
"capitalist extremist". Make up your mind!

I thought it was T Wake that wrote that. If you want to
get it right go back to the origins and follow the attributes.

 

[T Wake]

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"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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Your nation is led by a President who is overtly seek guidance from God.
That would frighten me. The UK PM is a devout Catholic. That offends me

Not clear to me why it should offend you, unless he has begun inflicting
his religious beliefs on his performance in office...and I haven't seen
signs of that, but then again, I'm not privy to much of what the UK
government does, day to day.

I should clarify, I have no major issue with which religion the PM chooses
to follow.

There is an issue with a countries leader who follows a dogmatic faith that
(dont forget this is really IMHO and possibly the result of advancing age)
requires obedience to a non-public entity.

There is a reasonable possibility that "offend" was an excessive word to
have used, but what ever word it would have been the same if he was Islamic,
Hindu, Jane etc.

Using a simplist and far from real example: if there was a situation where
the interests of the people conflicted with the interests of God/the Pope,
where would the PM stand? If it was with the people, his faith is a lie and
he shouldn't be trusted. If it is with God/Pope then he is not doing his job
as PM and shouldn't be trusted.

and there are (currently) significant checks and balances to prevent a
religious upsurge.

Used to be here, too. W has been slowly dismantling those, all on the
basis of unfounded fear.

The same is starting to happen in the UK. Slowly legislation is passed,
which appears reasonable but allows for unreasonable things. We currently
have a government that I actually, largely, support and things are going
well so people don't seem to mind being monitored and tracked everywhere
(legislation for black boxes in cars is looming). What happens in X years
when not-so-nice government gets in?

 

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Yet you allow, and encourage, capitalist extremism to prosper.


C'mon, BAH, first you say that Europe is socialist, then you say that
it's "capitalist extremist". Make up your mind!

I thought it was T Wake that wrote that. If you want to
get it right go back to the origins and follow the attributes.

Did. It was you.

Eric Lucas

 

[T Wake]

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Look, you brainless git. In case it's not mortifyingly obvious, I work
in the chemical industry (and yes, I do frequently work near the places
of production, as you implied I didn't in another sorely misinformed
post), and I'm telling you, one branch or another of the Federal
government knows exactly what every single chemical plant that produces
more than a few pounds per year in this country is making, and who they
are shipping to.

Seems like you took a does of something that scrambled your brains.

OK, so what did I say in that paragraph that's factually incorrect? Or do
you just spew insults when you have nothing worth saying?

Unsettled really does do justice to "his" email address.

 

[T Wake]

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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:08:55 +0100, "T Wake"
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If science teachers are teaching the Bible, they need to be fired. If
Religious Education teachers were teaching science, they should be fired.

Right, keep all things in their rigid compartments where God intended
they stay.

Interesting argument. You create the fallacy that supporting the separation
of subjects into discrete categories for the education of children is
actually supporting the doctrine of Christianity. Nicely done.

I assume then, that you feel Biology teachers should spend their time
teaching their student Spanish, while the Gym teacher covers Mathematics.
While we are at it, why have job titles at all. Why don't we all just be "do
what you wanters."

Hmm. Sounds familiar.

 

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Yet you allow, and encourage, capitalist extremism to prosper.


C'mon, BAH, first you say that Europe is socialist, then you say that
it's "capitalist extremist". Make up your mind!

I thought it was T Wake that wrote that. If you want to
get it right go back to the origins and follow the attributes.



Did. It was you.

Give you a simple assignment and you get it wrong:

<http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e70551f5fc6719c8?dmode=source&hl=en>

It was, as I remembered, T Wake who wrote that. Everything
that's grown out of your misunderstanding and subsequently
filtered through your paranoia is incorrect.

Since you can't get the simple things right how can we
expect you to keep up when the issues are even more
complex?

Bwahahahahahaha

 

[T Wake]

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T Wake distorts as only a Musli can:
"unsettled" <unsettled@nonsense.com> wrote in message
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T Wake distorts as only a Muslim can:



Jesus was the son of God (Part of God if you belive in the holy
trinity). He gave his life rather than kill. This is the basic tenet of
early Christianity. It was modified significantly over the next three to
nine hundred years until by the end of the first millenium, Christianity
was a war like religion which appealed to the Scandinavians.


You make me laugh. I am far from being a Muslim and even further from
supporting the spread of Islam. I went to a Catholic Grammar school -
please, what did I distort? Or was the sole purpose of your post the
attempt to call me a Muslim?

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck......

So you have nothing to back up your claim and when you feel unable to
respond to the post you reply with a <snip>. Ok. Debate with you is as
pointless as the rest of the kooks and cranks. Feel free to troll and post
without any further replies from me.

As you so wisely posted earlier on, you know what you think and you will not
allow anything as inconvenient as facts to sway you. I am glad you enjoy
your tortured paranoia but I am even more glad I do not share your world.

 

[T Wake]

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T Wake said:

Are
you JoeBloe? (I doubt it because you can use more than two or three
words at a time).

Ya know, I'm torn now. I caught him/her/it in a slip on his/her/its
alias, attribution something that him/her/it said to BAH. However, the
writing style is more like JoeBloe's...except for the ability to string
together an almost coherent sentence.


My identity is unimportant.

OK, so it's one of the two of them.

Maybe it is all three?

 

[T Wake]

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Jesus was the son of God (Part of God if you belive in the holy
trinity). He gave his life rather than kill. This is the basic tenet of
early Christianity. It was modified significantly over the next three to
nine hundred years until by the end of the first millenium, Christianity
was a war like religion which appealed to the Scandinavians.

T Wake distorts as only a Muslim can:

Proof, please.

Unsettled doesn't need proof when rumour and lies will suffice much better.

 

[T Wake]

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Who ever morphed into "unsettled"
[snip]

That's an interesting supposition. I've been thinking this unsettled
clown is some sort of unearthly love child of JoeBloe and that Michael
Terrell fellow, only with less ability to reason.

You might have it here.

I haven't see JoeBloe post for a while so it could be him - I don't know
about Terrell as his posts got to the stage of such pointless drivel I had
to kill file him.

 

[T Wake]

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I don't know it's wrong. I do know enough that bad data will
never show any statistical significance.

Don't you think *they* are in a better position to judge the quality of
their data than *you* are, since your understanding of statistics is
essentially non-existent? And don't you think that the peers who reviewed
the article and allowed it to be published might also be just a tiny tad
more knowledgeable of statistics than you are?

When BAH posted this, it struck me as a massive example of how really closed
minded some people can be. She hasn't read the data, she has no idea about
the methods, she doesn't know who reviewed it (etc), yet she does know that
bad data will spoil stats (which is true). She has taken the one thing she
does know and assumed it to be the case because the answer is not one she
wants.

Amazing that BAH claims to have any scientific background at all.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:10:34 +0100, "T Wake"
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:08:55 +0100, "T Wake"
usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:


If science teachers are teaching the Bible, they need to be fired. If
Religious Education teachers were teaching science, they should be fired.

Right, keep all things in their rigid compartments where God intended
they stay.

Interesting argument. You create the fallacy that supporting the separation
of subjects into discrete categories for the education of children is
actually supporting the doctrine of Christianity. Nicely done.

I assume then, that you feel Biology teachers should spend their time
teaching their student Spanish,

If the teacher has a couple of Spanish-background kids in class, it
would be appropriate to mention the Spanish names for things, or
comment on critters that live in the kids' home countries.

while the Gym teacher covers Mathematics.

Certainly the mention of mechanical advantage, momentum, friction,
things like that could be very useful in sports. Why select a light or
heavy bat? How does a curve ball work? What's the best way to throw a
football? That could create a lot more interest in physics than
sitting in a classroom grinding out equations.

While we are at it, why have job titles at all. Why don't we all just be "do
what you wanters."

Why don't we all know and think about a little more than our
specialty? Must an English teacher be deliberately ignorant of
science? Must an engineering professor be uninterested in History?

Hmm. Sounds familiar.

Depressingly so. Crossing disciplines can result in great revelations,
but a lot of people refuse to do it. No problem, I'll do it for you.

John