Jihad needs scientists

[T Wake]

"unsettled" <unsettled@nonsense.com> wrote in message
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T Wake distorts as only a Muslim can:
"unsettled" <unsettled@nonsense.com> wrote in message
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Eeyore wrote:

unsettled wrote:

Brother killing brother was not stopped by
conversion to Islam. It remains prevalent in
the culture.


OK then. Cite please.

google islam killing 8,370,000 hits (arguments both ways)


http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=christian+killing

17,300,000 hits.

Is there a point to your post?

Sure, he asked for a cite about brother killing brother,
so I gave him a URL to follow.

Your understanding is really impaired. I feel sorry for you.

He asked for a cite about brother killing brother being prevalent in Islamic
cultures.

You said "google islam killing 8,370,000 hits (arguments both ways)"

That is not a citation about fratricide being prevalent in the culture. It
is an exhortation to google it himself.

Now you've tried to turn
it into a dicksize war.

Not at all. Please do try to keep up. I simply demonstrated that it is _not_
a cultural prevalance unique to Islam. You dont realise this because you are
obsessed with what the voices in your head tell you the posts mean.

In reality, your reference had as many links to Muslims killing Christians,
Christians killing Muslims etc as anything else. In fact you failied to
provide the citation which supported your claims.

 

[Eeyore]

unsettled wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

The survey was to determine death rates from all causes pre and post
war. Quite simple really.

Pre-war of course there weren't any deaths from either US killings or
any insurgents.

And of course you faithfully believe Saddam's historical
records as being accurate and true! Bwahahahahahaha

The figures for the pre-war era encountered by the group tally with CIA
figures !

Graham

 

[T Wake]

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T Wake distorts as only a Muslim can:


You're clearly a sock puppet adhering to
someone else's agenda.

Hahaha. Nice one. You are a funny guy. Whose agenda am I adhering to?

Your Mullah's, unless you are a Mullah!

So you have no answer then? Only a vague "reds under the bed" response.

Are
you JoeBloe? (I doubt it because you can use more than two or three words
at a time).

My identity is unimportant. My statements are what I offer.

Yeah. Pity that is all you have to offer though, isnt it.

Generally speaking, your posts are meaningless and full of badly thought
out comments. Good work all round really.

Thank you. Coming from you I take this as your ultimate
compliment.

You are welcome. It was meant as a compliment.

 

[Eeyore]

unsettled wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

What is really frustrating about these people is that
they don't have to know any history.

I reckon in any competition, my knowledge of history would knock yours
into the proverbial cocked hat.

History has two distinct parts:

1) Knowledge of facts

2) Understanding historical facts in context

You lose.

I rather think not.

I note your assertion has no substance ( e.g examples ).

Graham

 

[T Wake]

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T Wake dsitorts as only a Muslim can:

<snip>

 

[T Wake]

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<snip>

 

[T Wake]

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unsettled wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

The survey was to determine death rates from all causes pre and post
war. Quite simple really.

Pre-war of course there weren't any deaths from either US killings or
any insurgents.

And of course you faithfully believe Saddam's historical
records as being accurate and true! Bwahahahahahaha

The figures for the pre-war era encountered by the group tally with CIA
figures !

It is unlikely that he really cares about things as trivial as facts. He has
his BELIEF to guide him.

 

[Eeyore]

unsettled wrote:

lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

As for Europe, I'm not hearing much discussions about this
either. What I do hear is capitulations so that they
get their oil deliveries.

Utter drivel.

If your posts are an example of conclusions made from the news
you get, I'm even more worried about Eurpoe ceding completely
with one little oil tap turned off.

Ceding to whom ? The Phantom Evil Empire ?


Yes, that would seem to be about the level of analysis these people apply.
"Ooooh, big scary Evil Empire!"

LOL Denial trumps appeasement?

The 'evil empire' is an invention of Bush's.

The huge majority of Muslims want to lead happy uncomplicated lives in peace
with their neighbours just like us.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

unsettled wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

I know I do not write clear enough for all values of IQs.

Mine's 152.

What's yours ?

You're good at taking IQ tests.

Amongst other things.

Doesn't actually mean you're "smart."

I'm so HURT !

Graham

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:55:18 -0500, unsettled <unsettled@nonsense.com>
wrote:

Not true, IMO. African hatreds are much like American
ones, passed from one generation to the next without
understanding, as in "Damn Yankees burned the south!"

I've lived in the South, the northeast, and the West, and traveled all
over, and I know of no US regional hatreds. There's some mild
stereotyping, like Californians are goofy and Vermonters are austere
and Bostonians drive badly, stuff like that, but usually based in
fact.

And I don't see a lot of reports of killings based on regional
hatreds. None, in fact. Just look at the big sports competitions, the
World Series and the Superbowl; there's no seating segregation at all,
and violence among fans of competing teams is nil. Compare that.

John

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:08:55 +0100, "T Wake"
<usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:

If science teachers are teaching the Bible, they need to be fired. If
Religious Education teachers were teaching science, they should be fired.

Right, keep all things in their rigid compartments where God intended
they stay.

John

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:06:17 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

I learnt that ppl weigh more than air.

My 'Bible Teacher' tried to teach that the ascension was real. I pointed out
that humans can't rise up to heaven because they weigh too much. She said they
could so I knew thereafter that Christian teaching was based on lies ( aged ~
9 ) .

Did that school have any stairways?

John

 

[Eeyore]

John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:08:55 +0100, "T Wake"
usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:

If science teachers are teaching the Bible, they need to be fired. If
Religious Education teachers were teaching science, they should be fired.

Right, keep all things in their rigid compartments where God intended
they stay.

Don't mess about John. Say what you really mean.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:06:17 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

I learnt that ppl weigh more than air.

My 'Bible Teacher' tried to teach that the ascension was real. I pointed out
that humans can't rise up to heaven because they weigh too much. She said they
could so I knew thereafter that Christian teaching was based on lies ( aged ~
9 ) .

Did that school have any stairways?

Stairway to heaven ? More like stairway to the Head's apartment for the slipper if
you were unfortunate enough.

Yes we had classrooms on 3 floors.

Graham

 

<jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <45378C8B.35815C8E@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

LOL. Muslims are quite capable of using electronic media themselves.

That's the irony of their preaching to get back to the old ways.
The Unibomber suffered the same thinking schism.

Yet another firm and unassailable assumption of yours. When are you going
to actually try to learn something about modern Middle Eastern Muslim
societies, instead of continuing to rely on what you read in some extremist
tome?

Eric Lucas

 

<jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
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In article <eh5f79$8b4$7@leto.cc.emory.edu>,
lparker@emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:

Fundamentalists understand the difference between just a theory
and their belief. They get threatened when teachers of their
kids present evolution as a belief;

It isn't. It's taught in science class as a scientific fact, which it is.

Wow. This one was easy. YOu just demonstrated what I wrote.

If you're going to label evolution as "just a belief", then you had better
be prepared to apply that appellation to *all* of the observational
sciences, since evolution is one of the best supported ideas in the history
of science. And, oh, since computers are based on the theories of solid
state physics, which you seem to think are "just beliefs", you'd better stop
typing, you wouldn't want people thinking you're actually taking that belief
seriously.

Eric Lucas

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

unsettled wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/ydw8ll

I keep posting this URL. Why is it so ignored?

Some people don't click links that don't tell them where it points
to.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

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In article <e97b6$4534dd17$4fe728b$30183@DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled@nonsense.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:


I can state my hidden agenda; preserve the world's accumulated
knowledge. Religious extremists have the goal of destroying
most of that knowledge. Islamic extremists have the goal of
destroying it all because it's a product of Western civilization.

Religious extremism is always the result of one of the following:

A) Insanity

B) Desire for power, control, and wealth


None of the above. Fear. Pure, simple terror.

OK, if you must, then "fear of losing power, control and wealth".
Witness
the fear-mongering among the Religious Right in the current election
campaign.

I am. More alarming is the message of the Democrats who keep implying
that there isn't any problem.

Citation, please. In your zeal to support the current administration,
you're not listening carefully.

Listen to any of them.

Again, cite one please. You're not listening carefully.

I gave you one. Clinton's ramblings this past week in Mass.
I no longer remember which night it was.

And I'm still looking for a direct quote where he said that "there isn't any
problem". Unless you can produce one, I am forced to assume that you
weren't listening carefully (as is your wont), and substituted your own
imagination of what you *think* he would have said, for what he actually
said.

Eric Lucas

 

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In article <57udnU2j2uYdBqrYnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:

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In article <e97b6$4534dd17$4fe728b$30183@DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled@nonsense.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:


I can state my hidden agenda; preserve the world's accumulated
knowledge. Religious extremists have the goal of destroying
most of that knowledge. Islamic extremists have the goal of
destroying it all because it's a product of Western civilization.

Religious extremism is always the result of one of the following:

A) Insanity

B) Desire for power, control, and wealth


None of the above. Fear. Pure, simple terror.

OK, if you must, then "fear of losing power, control and wealth".
Witness
the fear-mongering among the Religious Right in the current election
campaign.

I am. More alarming is the message of the Democrats who keep implying
that there isn't any problem.

Citation, please. In your zeal to support the current administration,
you're not listening carefully.

Listen to any of them.


Any and all conversations? Are they really that repetative?

Yes, the public speeches of the Democrats campaigning are
that repetitive.

OK, if there are that many repetitions of the same thing, it should be
really, really easy for you to come up with a direct quote that says (or
even implies to a reasonable person) that "there is no problem". Unless you
do, I am going to have to assume, based on your repeated and incorrect
comments about the Clinton administration, that you aren't listening as
carefully as you say you are, and you're substituting your own strawman
rhetoric for what they actually say.

Eric Lucas

To be indepedent
of oil usage for the power grid, dozens of generating plants need
to be started getting built right now at this second.

You *really* do need to learn whereof you speak. Oil is used for about 3 %
of power generation in the US. If that went off the grid, you wouldn't even
notice. The US is essentially 100% domestically sufficient for electric
power, through coal and natural gas.

These insane people don't say a single thing about it.

Because they actually have a grasp of the issues that you are woefully
uneducated about.

Eric Lucas

 

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Common sense would deemd that interval wider than the data.

....and because you have absolutely no background in or understanding of
statistics, your "common sense" would be wrong. Please do learn whereof you
speak, before you speak. The gaps in your knowledge in areas that are key
to a lot of the points you insist are right, is phenomenal and appalling.

I don't know it's wrong. I do know enough that bad data will
never show any statistical significance.

Don't you think *they* are in a better position to judge the quality of
their data than *you* are, since your understanding of statistics is
essentially non-existent? And don't you think that the peers who reviewed
the article and allowed it to be published might also be just a tiny tad
more knowledgeable of statistics than you are?

Yes, you do not know enough. Have you studied statistics, sampling, data
analysis?

Yes. A long time ago.

Then you've clearly forgotten everything you learned.

Eric Lucas