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That would explain PART of the power consumption.Perhaps they require the unit to be powered even when in standby, so that it
will continue to receive program or other updates from the cable company?
And then it requires a complete 'power-on-self-test' when it's largelyThis would not happen if you could actually completely turn the power off to
it, in which case it may miss a required update.
??Irregular wrote:
Mr.T wrote:
Maybe you are simply lazy and should just ignore the small amount of
power
drain. Even 17W is only about $5 a year.
17w 24/7 @ $5/yr = 3.36 cents per KWH.
I want your power pricing from my E company.
Electricity in the UK is typically around 9p (18c) per kWh.
I make that Ł134 / annum ! That's INSANE. Tell me I'm wrong.
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"David L. Jones" wrote:
If this TV pisses you off so much (and I don't blame you, it would
me), why do you continue to own it?
It's NOT a TV. It's a fucking STB made by Samsung. SMT-2110C.
The TV itself is the LAST of my problems.
And why didn't you return it for a refund and buy another brand?
Can't. The CATV Co. supplies the kit. NO OPTION. No alternative.
It isn't that hard. Just cancel the service and give it back. Think of the
stress relief. It is so hard for us to watch your life being ruined by this
thing.
Well, the new boxes are going to have a power button, but you have to pressEeyore wrote:
MisterE wrote:
The only thing crazy is your low bill!
You must be an American.
I would guess most people are at
least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said 10th
of all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to
start banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating
'soft power' switches.
Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from
frothing-at-the-mouth journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for
standy operation power consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE
watt IIRC in new products.
When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it measured
17W in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and
supplied by the cable co so no choice in the matter).
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging is
the only way to stop the energy waste.
Graham
Noticed the Electus stuff on that site so I had a quick hunt on"Jeßus" <n...@all.org> wrote in messagenews:484e2bec@news.x-privat.org....
Interesting. Who makes these?
There are quite a few around, but Googling is a bit hard due to all the
different names used.
They are often marketed as "green" power boards, like this one:http://www.coolgreen.com.au/product.asp?pID=350&cID=40
That one even has one extra unswitched outlet, specially for Graham.
You *WANT* to hold the switch for 10-45 seconds before the light turns off?Well, the new boxes are going to have a power button, but you have to
press
and hold it for 45 seconds before it powers off. I also hear the new
hybrid
cars coming out have that same feature, you have to hold the key in the
off
position for 10 seconds to shut the car off.
I cant wait! I wish they could make light switches like that.
Can you explain that better ? The 'power button' on this Samsung 2110C respondsEeyore wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
MisterE wrote:
The only thing crazy is your low bill!
You must be an American.
I would guess most people are at
least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said 10th
of all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to
start banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating
'soft power' switches.
Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from
frothing-at-the-mouth journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for
standy operation power consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE
watt IIRC in new products.
When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it measured
17W in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and
supplied by the cable co so no choice in the matter).
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging is
the only way to stop the energy waste.
Well, the new boxes are going to have a power button, but you have to press
and hold it for 45 seconds before it powers off.
That's something else entirelyI also hear the new hybrid
cars coming out have that same feature, you have to hold the key in the off
position for 10 seconds to shut the car off.
I cant wait! I wish they could make light switches like that.
Why would that happen ? All the most recent large wars have all been STARTED (or"Eeyore" wrote
"Mr.T" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
I suggest you google (or wiki) the concept of 'direct democracy'.
Which doesn't apply in America OR Australia. Can you tell me when the
last referendum on the issue was?
(hint, there's never been one because politicians love to keep power for
themselves. The day they relinquish any real power to the people, there
will be ice skating in hell)
Are you OBJECTING to that ?
I've had enough of stupid wars (and stupid Americans) to put up with it
any more.
#1 All American bases would be banned from UK (and other countries') soil.
#2 Americans would have to be energy self-sufficient !
Yeah, sure I can dream.
Graham
Great idea. All American bases in ALL foreign countries need to be closed
down and all American troops need to be pulled back to their bases in the
USA. When the rest of the world disintegrates into internecine warfare
You're an idiot.those
troops should be armed to the teeth with every weapon devised by man to keep
ALL those who are not American citizens OUT of the USA until all the various
territorial and racial disputes are settled. Then when the rest of the world
settles down, say in 500 - 1000 years, the then current American government
can send emissaries to those remaining places where a semblance of
civilization has stabilized and ask the ruler if Americans can be of any
assistance. If no assistance is needed then screw the Americans, leave them
in Isolation.
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"Mr.T" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
I suggest you google (or wiki) the concept of 'direct democracy'.
Which doesn't apply in America OR Australia. Can you tell me when the
last
referendum on the issue was?
(hint, there's never been one because politicians love to keep power for
themselves. The day they relinquish any real power to the people, there
will
be ice skating in hell)
Are you OBJECTING to that ?
I've had enough of stupid wars (and stupid Americans) to put up with it
any
more.
#1 All American bases would be banned from UK (and other countries') soil.
#2 Americans would have to be energy self-sufficient !
Yeah, sure I can dream.
Graham
Great idea. All American bases in ALL foreign countries need to be closed
down and all American troops need to be pulled back to their bases in the
USA. When the rest of the world disintegrates into internecine warfare those
troops should be armed to the teeth with every weapon devised by man to keep
ALL those who are not American citizens OUT of the USA until all the various
territorial and racial disputes are settled. Then when the rest of the world
settles down, say in 500 - 1000 years, the then current American government
can send emissaries to those remaining places where a semblance of
civilization has stabilized and ask the ruler if Americans can be of any
assistance. If no assistance is needed then screw the Americans, leave them
in Isolation.
Great idea. All American bases in ALL foreign countries need to be closed"Mr.T" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
I suggest you google (or wiki) the concept of 'direct democracy'.
Which doesn't apply in America OR Australia. Can you tell me when the
last
referendum on the issue was?
(hint, there's never been one because politicians love to keep power for
themselves. The day they relinquish any real power to the people, there
will
be ice skating in hell)
Are you OBJECTING to that ?
I've had enough of stupid wars (and stupid Americans) to put up with it
any
more.
#1 All American bases would be banned from UK (and other countries') soil.
#2 Americans would have to be energy self-sufficient !
Yeah, sure I can dream.
Graham