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I think a nuclear BOMB on Samsung's plant would give me more satisfaction. And"Eeyore" wrote
"David L. Jones" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
Jeßus wrote:
David L. Jones wrote
Like the use of auto switching power boards that
switch off all appliances down the chain when one "master" appliance
switches off.
Interesting. Who makes these?
Oh, google around. they do exist. I've never seen one IRL though.
Wouldn't
be a lot of good to me since it would also shut off the hi-fi when I
turned the TV off.
In that case you put a double adapter (or another power board) before the
auto power board.
Fixed power for those that need it, auto power off for those that need
that
function.
Just how much spaghettit is acceptable to fic this design flaw ?
As much as you need I figure.
A remote control power switch or auto power board is not much extra
spaghetti to fix an annoying design problem like that IMHO. You might even
be able to find one power board to do the whole job.
You might even find the remote solution rather satisifying, being able to
hit a remote switch and shut the stupid thing off while shouting "take THAT
you bastard!" :-
17w 24/7 @ $5/yr = 3.36 cents per KWH.Maybe you are simply lazy and should just ignore the small amount of power
drain. Even 17W is only about $5 a year.
Electricity in the UK is typically around 9p (18c) per kWh.Mr.T wrote:
Maybe you are simply lazy and should just ignore the small amount of power
drain. Even 17W is only about $5 a year.
17w 24/7 @ $5/yr = 3.36 cents per KWH.
I want your power pricing from my E company.
Putting words in my mouth makes the weakness of your position prettywmbjkREMOVE@citlink.net wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
wmbjkREMOVE@citlink.net wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
"Mr.T" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging
is the only way to stop the energy waste.
No power switch on the wall socket? Best option, buy a switched power board
then.
It's not always conventionent to scrabble round on the floor underneat things
is it ?
THINK !
You might take your own advice. Try Googling "extension cord".
It's already on one ! And I can't say I've ever seen swiched outlet extensions in
the shops either. Here's a typical one.
http://www.chsinteractive.co.uk/electrical-components/electrical-accessories/mains-trailing-sockets-13amp/trailing-sockets-unswitched/4-gang-13amp-mains-extension-trailing-socket-neon-indicator-unswitched-white-length-2m.htm
If you'd gone back in the hierarchy at that page and chosen "switched"
instead of "unswitched", you'd have gotten here
http://www.chsinteractive.co.uk/electrical-components/electrical-accessories/mains-trailing-sockets-13amp/trailing-sockets-switched.html.
It's hard to imagine that anybody would write multiple posts to
advertise that level of helplessness, but you're actually the second
I've seen. Last time it was Gymmy Bob (aka John P Benji, Solar Fart,
etc.) complaining about having to crawl under his desk to read a
KillaWatt. Congrats.
And this is your justication for Samsung NOT fitting a power switch that actually DOES SOMETHING.
<sigh> Mount the power switch on the underside of the table orI do NOT wish to crawl under the furniutre every time I want to watch TV.
I don't care if you're the son of Mother Theresa and Santa Claus. TheI have limits. My entire house is CFL'd for Christ's sake and I've had them for decades but I take exception to nit wit comments like yours making a
virtue of of incompetent design.
As always, the question is who decides who is "qualified" and "non-partisan".Don't blame us yanks if we can't shit....
Our asshole's in Washington.
You have my sympathies FWIW. OTOH they do say you get what you deserve.
IMHO the entire way countries are governed needs radical overhaul with power
being removed from
rich individuals and corporations and placed in 'trust' with highly qualified
and non-partisan
experts in their fields.
In short, being a 'party member' ought to be instant disqualification for
holding office.
How long IS that stick up your butt? You certainly are hyper-reactive. Have you"Mr.T" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
And I can't say I've ever seen swiched outlet extensions in
the shops either.
Try a better shop then.
GO FUCK YOURSELF
It isn't that hard. Just cancel the service and give it back. Think of the"David L. Jones" wrote:
If this TV pisses you off so much (and I don't blame you, it would
me), why do you continue to own it?
It's NOT a TV. It's a fucking STB made by Samsung. SMT-2110C.
The TV itself is the LAST of my problems.
And why didn't you return it for a refund and buy another brand?
Can't. The CATV Co. supplies the kit. NO OPTION. No alternative.
I'll put something PAINFUL up your fucking BACKSIDE if you don't STFU and accept that Samsung are a bunch of incompetent pricks.Putting words in my mouth makes the weakness of your position pretty
clear.
No-one said it would be easy ! Thanks for your thoughts all the same."Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Don't blame us yanks if we can't shit....
Our asshole's in Washington.
You have my sympathies FWIW. OTOH they do say you get what you deserve.
IMHO the entire way countries are governed needs radical overhaul with power
being removed from
rich individuals and corporations and placed in 'trust' with highly qualified
and non-partisan
experts in their fields.
In short, being a 'party member' ought to be instant disqualification for
holding office.
As always, the question is who decides who is "qualified" and "non-partisan".
I remember a sci-fi book I read years ago where holding office was a
responsibility, not a right. One of the qualifiers for being elected was that
you didn't want the position. Instead, you considered it your responsibility to
govern if the society chose you to. Anyone who wanted to run was disqualified.
Let me please try and briefly explain."Eeyore" wrote
"Mr.T" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
And I can't say I've ever seen swiched outlet extensions in
the shops either.
Try a better shop then.
GO FUCK YOURSELF
How long IS that stick up your butt? You certainly are hyper-reactive. Have you
ever considered being a civil person here? Or should I just plonk you? All you
seem to do here is jump on people for not thinking exactly like you.
Bizarre as it may seem, and quite frankly it strikes so anyway, they do"Eeyore" wrote
"David L. Jones" wrote:
If this TV pisses you off so much (and I don't blame you, it would
me), why do you continue to own it?
It's NOT a TV. It's a fucking STB made by Samsung. SMT-2110C.
The TV itself is the LAST of my problems.
And why didn't you return it for a refund and buy another brand?
Can't. The CATV Co. supplies the kit. NO OPTION. No alternative.
It isn't that hard. Just cancel the service and give it back. Think of the
stress relief. It is so hard for us to watch your life being ruined by this
thing.
My response did not relate to the technical problem. It related to your attitudeBob F wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
"Mr.T" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
And I can't say I've ever seen swiched outlet extensions in
the shops either.
Try a better shop then.
GO FUCK YOURSELF
How long IS that stick up your butt? You certainly are hyper-reactive. Have
you
ever considered being a civil person here? Or should I just plonk you? All
you
seem to do here is jump on people for not thinking exactly like you.
Let me please try and briefly explain.
There is ONE CATV Co, in the UK effectively. They are incompetent in so many
ways
even to begin with that I would not rather muddle the isssue by introducing
that -
but let me say that their billing dept is the closest thing I have come to in
real
life to an Alice in Wonderland.scenario.
Now, they provide a STB, whose power consumption I have discovered does not
change
whether it is 'ON' or in 'standy'.
Mea Culpa for discovering this ! I could have lived in happy ignorance,
thinking
the red LED meant it was in low power mode.
But NO ! It ISN'T. Furthermore the STB is fitted with NO 'hard' power switch
that
would enable me to save the 17W it consumes. Indeed, in any event of a 'crash'
you
have to dis-and-re-connect the power lead.
Now it seems that some geeky twats think I should invest in a switched power
strip
that I can crawl around the floor on to turn this POS truly 'off' when not in
use.
Fine, but I don't WANT to go carpet skiing every fucking single time I want to
watch TV or NOT. EXCUSE ME but I expect the BLOODY manufacturer of the STB (
***SAMSUNG***) to have been at least half-competent in providing this
function for
me.
Get it ? Is it really TOO MUCH to ask ?
You bet !My response did not relate to the technical problem
response. please take the time to spell right.It related to your attitude and methods here. Someone made a reasonable responce
No, they made a STUPID response involving scrabbling around under furniture to turnto your problem,
I am not. If you can't figure out how to add a switch that's is easily usable,Bob F wrote:
My response did not relate to the technical problem
You bet !
It related to your attitude and methods here. Someone made a reasonable
responce
response. please take the time to spell right.
to your problem,
No, they made a STUPID response involving scrabbling around under furniture to
turn
off a piece of equipment that should have been designed PROPERLY in the first
place.
WHY are you so PRO bad design ?
It should not be the CONSUMER'S job to add a switch."Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
WHY are you so PRO bad design ?
I am not. If you can't figure out how to add a switch that's is easily usable,
maybe you need to go back to engineeering school.
I can give some input here Graham. I have had DirecTV service before and weIrregular wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
MisterE wrote:
The only thing crazy is your low bill!
You must be an American.
I would guess most people are at
least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said
10th of
all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them
to start
banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating
'soft
power' switches.
Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from
frothing-at-the-mouth
journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy operation
power
consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new
products.
When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it
measured 17W
in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and
supplied by
the cable co so no choice in the matter).
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so
unplugging is the
only way to stop the energy waste.
Ditto the satellite boxes, and if you unplug you have a wait time for
signal re-acquisition that is several long minutes.
It's inexcusably bad design IMHO and I speak as an electronics designer of
some
experience.
Graham
I didn't choose it. There is no choice. It's what the catv people supply. I said"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
WHY are you so PRO bad design ?
I am not. If you can't figure out how to add a switch that's is easily usable,
maybe you need to go back to engineeering school.
If samsung choses to design products poorly, I will choose not to use them. You
chose to use it - live with it.
Oh man! Let's review your personas so far -wmbjkREMOVE@citlink.net wrote:> KillaWatt. Congrats.
Putting words in my mouth makes the weakness of your position pretty
clear.
I'll put something PAINFUL up your fucking BACKSIDE if you don't STFU and accept that Samsung are a bunch of incompetent pricks.
No, they're just people who happen to know what a switched power cordNow it seems that some geeky twats
No, you don't have to crawl on the floor unless you're too dim tothink I should invest in a switched power strip
that I can crawl around the floor on to turn this POS truly 'off' when not in use.
My gawd, your victim routine is hilarious. Please keep this threadFine, but I don't WANT to go carpet skiing every fucking single time I want to
watch TV or NOT. EXCUSE ME but I expect the BLOODY manufacturer of the STB (
***SAMSUNG***) to have been at least half-competent in providing this function for
me.
Get it ? Is it really TOO MUCH to ask ?
Too funny. You finally admit that it isn't difficult, but only afterBob F wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
WHY are you so PRO bad design ?
I am not. If you can't figure out how to add a switch that's is easily usable,
maybe you need to go back to engineeering school.
It should not be the CONSUMER'S job to add a switch.
Just because ***I*** could add a switch without too much trouble
That seems to be a perfect example of your best debate efforts. Youdoesn't make the
product any better !
Why are you so mentally feeble ?
I agree that many products need better design to lessen standbyThe PRODUCT should have been adequately designed so that it doesn't take an expert
to reduce the standby power consumption !
Nobody in this thread has excused bad design. Your pathetic attemptsSTOP EXCUSING BAD DESIGN,
Oh please. If there's anybody depending on your brand of advocacy,I am here being the advocate for the average consumer who
doesn't know these things, as any DECENT designer SHOULD be.