Wired, outdoor PC cameras?...

M

micky

Guest
I wanted to get some waterproof/outdoor cameras that plugged into the
PC, or maybe something that connected straight to the PC.

But all I see for sale are cameras meant to clip to the monitor, not be
screwed to the wall.

Or if they are meant for outside, they are either wifi or they are meant
to go to some sort of separate video recorder.

Do they sell what I want?

I\'m not worried about burglars or porch thieves, I just want to look at
my yard when I\'m inside. There is some wildlife that spend time there,
but I have no window on that side of the room I spend a lot of time in,
and even if there wwere I window, I\'d have to stand up, leave my work at
my desk, stand on the bed and look down at the yard. I want to be able
to watch on the PC monitor instead. --- If I went outside, most of the
animals would run away

I hoped to have 3 cameras**. A real bonus would be if I could do
something like run all 3 into one hub and just run one wire through the
window frame or wall. (Darn, I found what they call a waterproof
enclosure for a 4-port hub, but it\'s showing just a regular $10 hub and
a box without only one usb jack. By Sabrent but Amazon has no ratings
and no Q&A. I\'ll keep looking, or make my own?)

It it possible to cut the the USB connector off of a cord, slide the
wire through a hole, cut the wire to the desired length, and reattach a
USB conector?

**One facing the front, one to the right of that, and one mounted a foot
or two away, around the corner of the house, facing the side yard.
 
On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 14:04:49 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break
because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re
not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...

That seems drastic. I\'ve successfully used Ethernet cables where the
barb has fallen off, including one cable that has been barbless for a
number of years. I could lop off the connector and re-terminate it, and
I probably should, but it works fine as it is and I\'m too lazy to fix
things that work, so here we are.
 
On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 14:04:49 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break
because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re
not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...

That seems drastic. I\'ve successfully used Ethernet cables where the
barb has fallen off, including one cable that has been barbless for a
number of years. I could lop off the connector and re-terminate it, and
I probably should, but it works fine as it is and I\'m too lazy to fix
things that work, so here we are.
 
On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 14:04:49 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break
because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re
not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...

That seems drastic. I\'ve successfully used Ethernet cables where the
barb has fallen off, including one cable that has been barbless for a
number of years. I could lop off the connector and re-terminate it, and
I probably should, but it works fine as it is and I\'m too lazy to fix
things that work, so here we are.
 
On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...

You can chop the head off with a vengeance, then put another head on.
Just like that Frankenstein movie.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shahe-Ethernet-Network-Tester-Crimping/dp/B08LQ8QF4Q

One of the images is a video (on the left), and shows \"crimping on a new head\".

It\'s just the first thing that showed up in a search, and has
no particular merits.

I\'ve never done one of those, so can\'t say how easy it is to
get a good termination.

Paul
 
On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...

You can chop the head off with a vengeance, then put another head on.
Just like that Frankenstein movie.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shahe-Ethernet-Network-Tester-Crimping/dp/B08LQ8QF4Q

One of the images is a video (on the left), and shows \"crimping on a new head\".

It\'s just the first thing that showed up in a search, and has
no particular merits.

I\'ve never done one of those, so can\'t say how easy it is to
get a good termination.

Paul
 
On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...

You can chop the head off with a vengeance, then put another head on.
Just like that Frankenstein movie.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shahe-Ethernet-Network-Tester-Crimping/dp/B08LQ8QF4Q

One of the images is a video (on the left), and shows \"crimping on a new head\".

It\'s just the first thing that showed up in a search, and has
no particular merits.

I\'ve never done one of those, so can\'t say how easy it is to
get a good termination.

Paul
 
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:24:06 -0500, Paul
<nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...


You can chop the head off with a vengeance, then put another head on.
Just like that Frankenstein movie.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shahe-Ethernet-Network-Tester-Crimping/dp/B08LQ8QF4Q

Char, Paul, I was going to ask about this. I have one of these tools
that I bought for phone cords, but the place that holds the plug is wide
enough ethernet. I just need some connectors.

Mine is just plastic but it worked well. I think I have a professional
model I got at a hamfest or yard sale.

The comments are mostly positive, but this is one star:
this sucks, the blade doesn\'t trim wires properly and damages crystals, not worth the money. Wasted so much time on
installs just trying to trim a crystal properly

What is a crystal. The plastic end? Why is he trimming it?
---
Thhis is 4 stars but negative. It implies you should write down the
order of the wires before cutting off the original end.

Will probably work well…. but don’t buy
Reviewed in the United States on September 13, 2021
Model: 4in1 Tool KitVerified Purchase
That is, if you’ve never done this before. Instead, get a pass-through
crimper and plug set and your life will be easier. See, the cable wires

[What\'s that?]

you want to splice must be unraveled into the 8 individual data wires
and put into a specific color order to be inserted into the modular plug
and then crimped. (By the way, the video on the page shows the order for
only the rare, 568A configuration. Most systems call for the 568B
configuration which orders the wires differently. Be sure you know what
configuration you are working with before you order the wire colors. A
568B wire-order diagram is on the product page.) It’s not too difficult
to separate, smooth the wires, and get them into the right color order
when you’re working with two inches of the cable wires. But holding that
order in your fingers right next to the plastic cable sheathing,
clipping the wires down to a half inch and then inserting all of them
all into the plug at the same time is very difficult for a first timer
and takes a lot of practice (I assume). The problem is that the wires
terminate at the end of the plug. You can’t hold one wire in that
position while you mess with other wires that are misbehaving; and they

[I know. It was pretty easy for 4 wires, haven\'t tried more.]

will misbehave. The pass-through plugs help solve this by letting the
wires go in the back of the plug into their proper channel and then
extend out through the front end of the plug. This way you don’t have to
clip the wires before inserting them. You can actually insert one wire
at a time and when it passes through the front bend it so that it stays
put while you insert the next wire in the order (a procedure that
probably infuriates the purists). Once all the wires are inserted
through in the right order the special pass-through crimper not only
locks down the wires and sheathing, but also clips the excess wires in
front of the plug. You just have to be careful when inserting the wires
that you don’t skip a hole and end up one or two wires with no home.
You’ll also want to twist the end of the loose wires together after
their all in to get them through the crimping hole cleanly. Finally,
remember to slip the plug cover on the cable before you start working

[shoudln\'t be \"finally\". Should be first.]

with the wire. You can find the pass-through crimpers here on Amazon by
searching for them specifically. It will still be a tedious process but
at least doable for a novice. Good luck.
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Here is one that is called pass-through. I don\'t know why it would be
easier.
https://www.amazon.com/CHZHLM-Through-Connector-Connectors-Stripper/dp/B0B73Y5RS4/ref=sr_1_1_sspa

One of the images is a video (on the left), and shows \"crimping on a new head\".

It\'s just the first thing that showed up in a search, and has
no particular merits.

I\'ve never done one of those, so can\'t say how easy it is to
get a good termination.

Phone line was easy.

> Paul
 
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:24:06 -0500, Paul
<nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...


You can chop the head off with a vengeance, then put another head on.
Just like that Frankenstein movie.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shahe-Ethernet-Network-Tester-Crimping/dp/B08LQ8QF4Q

Char, Paul, I was going to ask about this. I have one of these tools
that I bought for phone cords, but the place that holds the plug is wide
enough ethernet. I just need some connectors.

Mine is just plastic but it worked well. I think I have a professional
model I got at a hamfest or yard sale.

The comments are mostly positive, but this is one star:
this sucks, the blade doesn\'t trim wires properly and damages crystals, not worth the money. Wasted so much time on
installs just trying to trim a crystal properly

What is a crystal. The plastic end? Why is he trimming it?
---
Thhis is 4 stars but negative. It implies you should write down the
order of the wires before cutting off the original end.

Will probably work well…. but don’t buy
Reviewed in the United States on September 13, 2021
Model: 4in1 Tool KitVerified Purchase
That is, if you’ve never done this before. Instead, get a pass-through
crimper and plug set and your life will be easier. See, the cable wires

[What\'s that?]

you want to splice must be unraveled into the 8 individual data wires
and put into a specific color order to be inserted into the modular plug
and then crimped. (By the way, the video on the page shows the order for
only the rare, 568A configuration. Most systems call for the 568B
configuration which orders the wires differently. Be sure you know what
configuration you are working with before you order the wire colors. A
568B wire-order diagram is on the product page.) It’s not too difficult
to separate, smooth the wires, and get them into the right color order
when you’re working with two inches of the cable wires. But holding that
order in your fingers right next to the plastic cable sheathing,
clipping the wires down to a half inch and then inserting all of them
all into the plug at the same time is very difficult for a first timer
and takes a lot of practice (I assume). The problem is that the wires
terminate at the end of the plug. You can’t hold one wire in that
position while you mess with other wires that are misbehaving; and they

[I know. It was pretty easy for 4 wires, haven\'t tried more.]

will misbehave. The pass-through plugs help solve this by letting the
wires go in the back of the plug into their proper channel and then
extend out through the front end of the plug. This way you don’t have to
clip the wires before inserting them. You can actually insert one wire
at a time and when it passes through the front bend it so that it stays
put while you insert the next wire in the order (a procedure that
probably infuriates the purists). Once all the wires are inserted
through in the right order the special pass-through crimper not only
locks down the wires and sheathing, but also clips the excess wires in
front of the plug. You just have to be careful when inserting the wires
that you don’t skip a hole and end up one or two wires with no home.
You’ll also want to twist the end of the loose wires together after
their all in to get them through the crimping hole cleanly. Finally,
remember to slip the plug cover on the cable before you start working

[shoudln\'t be \"finally\". Should be first.]

with the wire. You can find the pass-through crimpers here on Amazon by
searching for them specifically. It will still be a tedious process but
at least doable for a novice. Good luck.
One person found this helpful
Report abuse
--

Here is one that is called pass-through. I don\'t know why it would be
easier.
https://www.amazon.com/CHZHLM-Through-Connector-Connectors-Stripper/dp/B0B73Y5RS4/ref=sr_1_1_sspa

One of the images is a video (on the left), and shows \"crimping on a new head\".

It\'s just the first thing that showed up in a search, and has
no particular merits.

I\'ve never done one of those, so can\'t say how easy it is to
get a good termination.

Phone line was easy.

> Paul
 
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:24:06 -0500, Paul
<nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...


You can chop the head off with a vengeance, then put another head on.
Just like that Frankenstein movie.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shahe-Ethernet-Network-Tester-Crimping/dp/B08LQ8QF4Q

Char, Paul, I was going to ask about this. I have one of these tools
that I bought for phone cords, but the place that holds the plug is wide
enough ethernet. I just need some connectors.

Mine is just plastic but it worked well. I think I have a professional
model I got at a hamfest or yard sale.

The comments are mostly positive, but this is one star:
this sucks, the blade doesn\'t trim wires properly and damages crystals, not worth the money. Wasted so much time on
installs just trying to trim a crystal properly

What is a crystal. The plastic end? Why is he trimming it?
---
Thhis is 4 stars but negative. It implies you should write down the
order of the wires before cutting off the original end.

Will probably work well…. but don’t buy
Reviewed in the United States on September 13, 2021
Model: 4in1 Tool KitVerified Purchase
That is, if you’ve never done this before. Instead, get a pass-through
crimper and plug set and your life will be easier. See, the cable wires

[What\'s that?]

you want to splice must be unraveled into the 8 individual data wires
and put into a specific color order to be inserted into the modular plug
and then crimped. (By the way, the video on the page shows the order for
only the rare, 568A configuration. Most systems call for the 568B
configuration which orders the wires differently. Be sure you know what
configuration you are working with before you order the wire colors. A
568B wire-order diagram is on the product page.) It’s not too difficult
to separate, smooth the wires, and get them into the right color order
when you’re working with two inches of the cable wires. But holding that
order in your fingers right next to the plastic cable sheathing,
clipping the wires down to a half inch and then inserting all of them
all into the plug at the same time is very difficult for a first timer
and takes a lot of practice (I assume). The problem is that the wires
terminate at the end of the plug. You can’t hold one wire in that
position while you mess with other wires that are misbehaving; and they

[I know. It was pretty easy for 4 wires, haven\'t tried more.]

will misbehave. The pass-through plugs help solve this by letting the
wires go in the back of the plug into their proper channel and then
extend out through the front end of the plug. This way you don’t have to
clip the wires before inserting them. You can actually insert one wire
at a time and when it passes through the front bend it so that it stays
put while you insert the next wire in the order (a procedure that
probably infuriates the purists). Once all the wires are inserted
through in the right order the special pass-through crimper not only
locks down the wires and sheathing, but also clips the excess wires in
front of the plug. You just have to be careful when inserting the wires
that you don’t skip a hole and end up one or two wires with no home.
You’ll also want to twist the end of the loose wires together after
their all in to get them through the crimping hole cleanly. Finally,
remember to slip the plug cover on the cable before you start working

[shoudln\'t be \"finally\". Should be first.]

with the wire. You can find the pass-through crimpers here on Amazon by
searching for them specifically. It will still be a tedious process but
at least doable for a novice. Good luck.
One person found this helpful
Report abuse
--

Here is one that is called pass-through. I don\'t know why it would be
easier.
https://www.amazon.com/CHZHLM-Through-Connector-Connectors-Stripper/dp/B0B73Y5RS4/ref=sr_1_1_sspa

One of the images is a video (on the left), and shows \"crimping on a new head\".

It\'s just the first thing that showed up in a search, and has
no particular merits.

I\'ve never done one of those, so can\'t say how easy it is to
get a good termination.

Phone line was easy.

> Paul
 
On 12/25/2022 6:02 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:24:06 -0500, Paul
nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...


You can chop the head off with a vengeance, then put another head on.
Just like that Frankenstein movie.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shahe-Ethernet-Network-Tester-Crimping/dp/B08LQ8QF4Q

Char, Paul, I was going to ask about this. I have one of these tools
that I bought for phone cords, but the place that holds the plug is wide
enough ethernet. I just need some connectors.

Mine is just plastic but it worked well. I think I have a professional
model I got at a hamfest or yard sale.

The comments are mostly positive, but this is one star:
this sucks, the blade doesn\'t trim wires properly and damages crystals, not worth the money. Wasted so much time on
installs just trying to trim a crystal properly

What is a crystal. The plastic end? Why is he trimming it?
---
Thhis is 4 stars but negative. It implies you should write down the
order of the wires before cutting off the original end.

Will probably work well…. but don’t buy
Reviewed in the United States on September 13, 2021
Model: 4in1 Tool KitVerified Purchase
That is, if you’ve never done this before. Instead, get a pass-through
crimper and plug set and your life will be easier. See, the cable wires

[What\'s that?]

you want to splice must be unraveled into the 8 individual data wires
and put into a specific color order to be inserted into the modular plug
and then crimped. (By the way, the video on the page shows the order for
only the rare, 568A configuration. Most systems call for the 568B
configuration which orders the wires differently. Be sure you know what
configuration you are working with before you order the wire colors. A
568B wire-order diagram is on the product page.) It’s not too difficult
to separate, smooth the wires, and get them into the right color order
when you’re working with two inches of the cable wires. But holding that
order in your fingers right next to the plastic cable sheathing,
clipping the wires down to a half inch and then inserting all of them
all into the plug at the same time is very difficult for a first timer
and takes a lot of practice (I assume). The problem is that the wires
terminate at the end of the plug. You can’t hold one wire in that
position while you mess with other wires that are misbehaving; and they

[I know. It was pretty easy for 4 wires, haven\'t tried more.]

will misbehave. The pass-through plugs help solve this by letting the
wires go in the back of the plug into their proper channel and then
extend out through the front end of the plug. This way you don’t have to
clip the wires before inserting them. You can actually insert one wire
at a time and when it passes through the front bend it so that it stays
put while you insert the next wire in the order (a procedure that
probably infuriates the purists). Once all the wires are inserted
through in the right order the special pass-through crimper not only
locks down the wires and sheathing, but also clips the excess wires in
front of the plug. You just have to be careful when inserting the wires
that you don’t skip a hole and end up one or two wires with no home.
You’ll also want to twist the end of the loose wires together after
their all in to get them through the crimping hole cleanly. Finally,
remember to slip the plug cover on the cable before you start working

[shoudln\'t be \"finally\". Should be first.]

with the wire. You can find the pass-through crimpers here on Amazon by
searching for them specifically. It will still be a tedious process but
at least doable for a novice. Good luck.
One person found this helpful
Report abuse
--

Here is one that is called pass-through. I don\'t know why it would be
easier.

I would imagine you can cut the wires much longer, push them through,
then pull them each tight to pull the wire casing tight into the
connector. then cut off the extra wire ends. That may be easier than
trying to cut them to the final length, get them ordered correctly in a
TIGHT flat pattern, then push them all the way into their appropriate holes.


https://www.amazon.com/CHZHLM-Through-Connector-Connectors-Stripper/dp/B0B73Y5RS4/ref=sr_1_1_sspa

One of the images is a video (on the left), and shows \"crimping on a new head\".

It\'s just the first thing that showed up in a search, and has
no particular merits.

I\'ve never done one of those, so can\'t say how easy it is to
get a good termination.

Phone line was easy.

Paul
 
On 12/25/2022 6:02 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:24:06 -0500, Paul
nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...


You can chop the head off with a vengeance, then put another head on.
Just like that Frankenstein movie.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shahe-Ethernet-Network-Tester-Crimping/dp/B08LQ8QF4Q

Char, Paul, I was going to ask about this. I have one of these tools
that I bought for phone cords, but the place that holds the plug is wide
enough ethernet. I just need some connectors.

Mine is just plastic but it worked well. I think I have a professional
model I got at a hamfest or yard sale.

The comments are mostly positive, but this is one star:
this sucks, the blade doesn\'t trim wires properly and damages crystals, not worth the money. Wasted so much time on
installs just trying to trim a crystal properly

What is a crystal. The plastic end? Why is he trimming it?
---
Thhis is 4 stars but negative. It implies you should write down the
order of the wires before cutting off the original end.

Will probably work well…. but don’t buy
Reviewed in the United States on September 13, 2021
Model: 4in1 Tool KitVerified Purchase
That is, if you’ve never done this before. Instead, get a pass-through
crimper and plug set and your life will be easier. See, the cable wires

[What\'s that?]

you want to splice must be unraveled into the 8 individual data wires
and put into a specific color order to be inserted into the modular plug
and then crimped. (By the way, the video on the page shows the order for
only the rare, 568A configuration. Most systems call for the 568B
configuration which orders the wires differently. Be sure you know what
configuration you are working with before you order the wire colors. A
568B wire-order diagram is on the product page.) It’s not too difficult
to separate, smooth the wires, and get them into the right color order
when you’re working with two inches of the cable wires. But holding that
order in your fingers right next to the plastic cable sheathing,
clipping the wires down to a half inch and then inserting all of them
all into the plug at the same time is very difficult for a first timer
and takes a lot of practice (I assume). The problem is that the wires
terminate at the end of the plug. You can’t hold one wire in that
position while you mess with other wires that are misbehaving; and they

[I know. It was pretty easy for 4 wires, haven\'t tried more.]

will misbehave. The pass-through plugs help solve this by letting the
wires go in the back of the plug into their proper channel and then
extend out through the front end of the plug. This way you don’t have to
clip the wires before inserting them. You can actually insert one wire
at a time and when it passes through the front bend it so that it stays
put while you insert the next wire in the order (a procedure that
probably infuriates the purists). Once all the wires are inserted
through in the right order the special pass-through crimper not only
locks down the wires and sheathing, but also clips the excess wires in
front of the plug. You just have to be careful when inserting the wires
that you don’t skip a hole and end up one or two wires with no home.
You’ll also want to twist the end of the loose wires together after
their all in to get them through the crimping hole cleanly. Finally,
remember to slip the plug cover on the cable before you start working

[shoudln\'t be \"finally\". Should be first.]

with the wire. You can find the pass-through crimpers here on Amazon by
searching for them specifically. It will still be a tedious process but
at least doable for a novice. Good luck.
One person found this helpful
Report abuse
--

Here is one that is called pass-through. I don\'t know why it would be
easier.

I would imagine you can cut the wires much longer, push them through,
then pull them each tight to pull the wire casing tight into the
connector. then cut off the extra wire ends. That may be easier than
trying to cut them to the final length, get them ordered correctly in a
TIGHT flat pattern, then push them all the way into their appropriate holes.


https://www.amazon.com/CHZHLM-Through-Connector-Connectors-Stripper/dp/B0B73Y5RS4/ref=sr_1_1_sspa

One of the images is a video (on the left), and shows \"crimping on a new head\".

It\'s just the first thing that showed up in a search, and has
no particular merits.

I\'ve never done one of those, so can\'t say how easy it is to
get a good termination.

Phone line was easy.

Paul
 
On 12/25/2022 6:02 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:24:06 -0500, Paul
nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...


You can chop the head off with a vengeance, then put another head on.
Just like that Frankenstein movie.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shahe-Ethernet-Network-Tester-Crimping/dp/B08LQ8QF4Q

Char, Paul, I was going to ask about this. I have one of these tools
that I bought for phone cords, but the place that holds the plug is wide
enough ethernet. I just need some connectors.

Mine is just plastic but it worked well. I think I have a professional
model I got at a hamfest or yard sale.

The comments are mostly positive, but this is one star:
this sucks, the blade doesn\'t trim wires properly and damages crystals, not worth the money. Wasted so much time on
installs just trying to trim a crystal properly

What is a crystal. The plastic end? Why is he trimming it?
---
Thhis is 4 stars but negative. It implies you should write down the
order of the wires before cutting off the original end.

Will probably work well…. but don’t buy
Reviewed in the United States on September 13, 2021
Model: 4in1 Tool KitVerified Purchase
That is, if you’ve never done this before. Instead, get a pass-through
crimper and plug set and your life will be easier. See, the cable wires

[What\'s that?]

you want to splice must be unraveled into the 8 individual data wires
and put into a specific color order to be inserted into the modular plug
and then crimped. (By the way, the video on the page shows the order for
only the rare, 568A configuration. Most systems call for the 568B
configuration which orders the wires differently. Be sure you know what
configuration you are working with before you order the wire colors. A
568B wire-order diagram is on the product page.) It’s not too difficult
to separate, smooth the wires, and get them into the right color order
when you’re working with two inches of the cable wires. But holding that
order in your fingers right next to the plastic cable sheathing,
clipping the wires down to a half inch and then inserting all of them
all into the plug at the same time is very difficult for a first timer
and takes a lot of practice (I assume). The problem is that the wires
terminate at the end of the plug. You can’t hold one wire in that
position while you mess with other wires that are misbehaving; and they

[I know. It was pretty easy for 4 wires, haven\'t tried more.]

will misbehave. The pass-through plugs help solve this by letting the
wires go in the back of the plug into their proper channel and then
extend out through the front end of the plug. This way you don’t have to
clip the wires before inserting them. You can actually insert one wire
at a time and when it passes through the front bend it so that it stays
put while you insert the next wire in the order (a procedure that
probably infuriates the purists). Once all the wires are inserted
through in the right order the special pass-through crimper not only
locks down the wires and sheathing, but also clips the excess wires in
front of the plug. You just have to be careful when inserting the wires
that you don’t skip a hole and end up one or two wires with no home.
You’ll also want to twist the end of the loose wires together after
their all in to get them through the crimping hole cleanly. Finally,
remember to slip the plug cover on the cable before you start working

[shoudln\'t be \"finally\". Should be first.]

with the wire. You can find the pass-through crimpers here on Amazon by
searching for them specifically. It will still be a tedious process but
at least doable for a novice. Good luck.
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Here is one that is called pass-through. I don\'t know why it would be
easier.

I would imagine you can cut the wires much longer, push them through,
then pull them each tight to pull the wire casing tight into the
connector. then cut off the extra wire ends. That may be easier than
trying to cut them to the final length, get them ordered correctly in a
TIGHT flat pattern, then push them all the way into their appropriate holes.


https://www.amazon.com/CHZHLM-Through-Connector-Connectors-Stripper/dp/B0B73Y5RS4/ref=sr_1_1_sspa

One of the images is a video (on the left), and shows \"crimping on a new head\".

It\'s just the first thing that showed up in a search, and has
no particular merits.

I\'ve never done one of those, so can\'t say how easy it is to
get a good termination.

Phone line was easy.

Paul
 
On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:24:06 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...


You can chop the head off with a vengeance, then put another head on.
Just like that Frankenstein movie.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shahe-Ethernet-Network-Tester-Crimping/dp/B08LQ8QF4Q

One of the images is a video (on the left), and shows \"crimping on a new head\".

It\'s just the first thing that showed up in a search, and has
no particular merits.

I\'ve never done one of those, so can\'t say how easy it is to
get a good termination.

The crimper linked above is essentially what I use and it works well. It
probably helps that I\'ve done a crap ton of them. If I was asked to make
a recommendation to someone who doesn\'t have much experience, I would
very definitely recommend the pass-thru type of connector. They\'re quite
a bit easier, especially for someone who\'s just getting started.

Someone else mentioned TIA 568B (vs 568A). If a diagram isn\'t handy, you
can use the other end of the cable that you\'re working on. Put the two
connectors side by side, not end to end, and just match the colors.
 
On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:24:06 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...


You can chop the head off with a vengeance, then put another head on.
Just like that Frankenstein movie.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shahe-Ethernet-Network-Tester-Crimping/dp/B08LQ8QF4Q

One of the images is a video (on the left), and shows \"crimping on a new head\".

It\'s just the first thing that showed up in a search, and has
no particular merits.

I\'ve never done one of those, so can\'t say how easy it is to
get a good termination.

The crimper linked above is essentially what I use and it works well. It
probably helps that I\'ve done a crap ton of them. If I was asked to make
a recommendation to someone who doesn\'t have much experience, I would
very definitely recommend the pass-thru type of connector. They\'re quite
a bit easier, especially for someone who\'s just getting started.

Someone else mentioned TIA 568B (vs 568A). If a diagram isn\'t handy, you
can use the other end of the cable that you\'re working on. Put the two
connectors side by side, not end to end, and just match the colors.
 
On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 20:24:06 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Graham J wrote:

the barbs on RJ45 plugs do break off, rendering them useless.  They break because of inexpert handling - don\'t blame yourself, it happens to all of us!

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...


You can chop the head off with a vengeance, then put another head on.
Just like that Frankenstein movie.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shahe-Ethernet-Network-Tester-Crimping/dp/B08LQ8QF4Q

One of the images is a video (on the left), and shows \"crimping on a new head\".

It\'s just the first thing that showed up in a search, and has
no particular merits.

I\'ve never done one of those, so can\'t say how easy it is to
get a good termination.

The crimper linked above is essentially what I use and it works well. It
probably helps that I\'ve done a crap ton of them. If I was asked to make
a recommendation to someone who doesn\'t have much experience, I would
very definitely recommend the pass-thru type of connector. They\'re quite
a bit easier, especially for someone who\'s just getting started.

Someone else mentioned TIA 568B (vs 568A). If a diagram isn\'t handy, you
can use the other end of the cable that you\'re working on. Put the two
connectors side by side, not end to end, and just match the colors.
 
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 9:09:44 AM UTC-8, micky wrote:
I wanted to get some waterproof/outdoor cameras that plugged into the
PC, or maybe something that connected straight to the PC.

But all I see for sale are cameras meant to clip to the monitor, not be
screwed to the wall.

Oh, they\'re available four outdoor install. This one, for instance <at temu.com search for LY02238>
The POE (power-over-ethernet) type don\'t require house current directly (you\'ll
need a switch or POE power injector in addition to ethernet interfaces).
 
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 9:09:44 AM UTC-8, micky wrote:
I wanted to get some waterproof/outdoor cameras that plugged into the
PC, or maybe something that connected straight to the PC.

But all I see for sale are cameras meant to clip to the monitor, not be
screwed to the wall.

Oh, they\'re available four outdoor install. This one, for instance <at temu.com search for LY02238>
The POE (power-over-ethernet) type don\'t require house current directly (you\'ll
need a switch or POE power injector in addition to ethernet interfaces).
 
On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 9:09:44 AM UTC-8, micky wrote:
I wanted to get some waterproof/outdoor cameras that plugged into the
PC, or maybe something that connected straight to the PC.

But all I see for sale are cameras meant to clip to the monitor, not be
screwed to the wall.

Oh, they\'re available four outdoor install. This one, for instance <at temu.com search for LY02238>
The POE (power-over-ethernet) type don\'t require house current directly (you\'ll
need a switch or POE power injector in addition to ethernet interfaces).
 
Char Jackson wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

When it happens, chop the lead in two with a vengeance and discard it, so you\'re
not tempted to re-use it later \"just temporarily\" ...

That seems drastic. I\'ve successfully used Ethernet cables where the
barb has fallen off, including one cable that has been barbless for a
number of years.

And then one day, someone is doing the hoovering, or kicks a desk, or a pet gets
round the back, and something stops working ... if you can retuerminate it with
a new plug, sure but patch cables are cheap, stuff not working is frequently
expensive ...
 

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