The 100% Guaranteed Safe Automobile

[John Woodgate]

I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that jim dorey
<skaar@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote (in <opspn717scfr5e9h@trebuchet&gt about
'The 100% Guaranteed Safe Automobile', on Sat, 23 Apr 2005:

i believe there were some studies done that showed talking to a person
was less distracting than holding a cell phone and talking, i don't
remember what distraction the hands free phones caused, probably a lot
during dialing.

There were, but the probity of such studies needs to be carefully
monitored. Consider what the implications of an opposite result would
be.

This applies in ANY case where a result would be contrary to official
requirements.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
There are two sides to every question, except
'What is a Moebius strip?'
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Gareth]

jim dorey wrote:

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 05:03:58 GMT, Tom Del Rosso <ng01@att.net.invalid
wrote:

But do you really think that's more dangerous than using the
cupholder for
its intended purpose while driving? I think talking to somebody in
the car
is about as distracting as talking on the phone.


i believe there were some studies done that showed talking to a person
was less distracting than holding a cell phone and talking, i don't
remember what distraction the hands free phones caused, probably a lot
during dialing.

I seem to remember a study which concluded that talking to other people
in the car is less distracting than talking to someone on a cell phone.
One of the explanations they gave was that a person in the car can see,
from your body language and their view of the road, when you need to
concentrate on driving rather than talking. By contrast someone on the
phone will probably hear you go quiet and start shouting "Hello...
HELLO... HELLLLLOOOO ARE YOU STILL THERE?"

Gareth

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[Fred Bloggs]

John Fields wrote:

And if their kids were killed because they _weren't_ buckled up, then
you'd condemn that as an act of negligence as well... You're a real
piece of shit, Rich.

Why even respond to his posts? It is obvious that this Grise character,
along with all his pseudonyms, is an ignorant, permanently unemployed,
low life, and pretentious, pseudo-intellectual, p.o.s.- the most OT and
worthless troll on NG.

 

[Rich The Newsgroup Wacko]

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:38:07 -0500, John Fields wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:02:45 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net

Nah - they've got seat belts, shoulder harnesses, kid seats, air bags,
crush zones, roll bars - all kinds of crap to protect them from the
consequences of their own negligence.

And if their kids were killed because they _weren't_ buckled up, then
you'd condemn that as an act of negligence as well... You're a real piece
of shit, Rich.

Well, if their kids were killed by being placed in a death machine while
the "parents" inflict their negligence, maybe the "parents" should have
been taught not to breed in the first place.

It's kind of sad that otherwise grownup adult men aspire to name-calling
as if it were a valid argument. Maybe you should check out Jim and Guy's
Mutual Self-aggrandizement Society.
--
Cheers!
Rich
------
"A geneticist living in Delft
Scientifically played with himself,
And when he was done
He labled it: son,
And filed him away on a shelf."

 

[Rich The Newsgroup Wacko]

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:40:14 +0100, John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
eatmyshorts@doubleclick.net> wrote (in
pan.2005.04.22.16.04.48.173774@doubleclick.net&gt about 'The 100%
Guaranteed Safe Automobile', on Fri, 22 Apr 2005:
Hell, it's already happening - just look at the latest election.

The Pope has an attitude to drunk driving?

No, I was talking about the _election_, not the installation of the
latest catholic fuehrer.

And you seem to have conveniently omitted the context here:

Quote:
-----------------
-On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:58:48 +0000, jim dorey wrote:
-
-> On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:54:56 +1000, Al Borowski
-> <al.borowski@EraseThis.gmail.com> wrote:
->
->>> The chairman of Citroen once said that the safest car in the world
->>> would be made of glass, with a six inch spike sticking out of the
->>> centre of the steering wheel.
->>
->> Didn't we used to have that back before collaspable steering columns?
->>
->> Al
->
-> ya, people were stupid then as well.
-
-But they used to pay the price for their stupidity. Clearly, the
-politicos want the stupid to survive and breed like cats so they have
-lots of stupid voters to get elected by.
-
-Hell, it's already happening - just look at the latest election.
-----------End Quote

To Wit (and I use the term loosely), Dubya.
--
Cheers!
Rich
------
"The husband was disturbed by his wife's indifferent attitude towards him
and the marriage counselor suggested he try being more aggressive in his
lovemaking. "Act more like a romantic lover and less like a bored
spouse," he was advised. "When you go home, make love to her as soon as
you meet -- even if it's right inside the front door." At the next
consultation, the adviser was pleased to hear that the husband had
followed his instructions. "And how did she react this time?" the
consultant asked. "Well, to tell you the truth," the husband replied,
"she was still sort of indifferent. But one thing I've got to admit: her
bridge club went absolutely wild!""

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Rich The Newsgroup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in message
newsan.2005.04.23.16.54.08.534509@example.com...

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:38:07 -0500, John Fields wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:02:45 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net

Nah - they've got seat belts, shoulder harnesses, kid seats, air
bags,
crush zones, roll bars - all kinds of crap to protect them from the
consequences of their own negligence.

And if their kids were killed because they _weren't_ buckled up,
then
you'd condemn that as an act of negligence as well... You're a real
piece
of shit, Rich.

Well, if their kids were killed by being placed in a death machine
while
the "parents" inflict their negligence, maybe the "parents" should
have
been taught not to breed in the first place.

It's kind of sad that otherwise grownup adult men aspire to
name-calling
as if it were a valid argument. Maybe you should check out Jim and
Guy's
Mutual Self-aggrandizement Society.
--
Cheers!
Rich
------
"A geneticist living in Delft
Scientifically played with himself,
And when he was done
He labled it: son,
And filed him away on a shelf."

Heh. Is this Rich as in Grise? I didn't think you made
those kinds of mistakes. It's (at least here in the U.S.)
"labeled".

 

[John Fields]

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:54:32 GMT, Rich The Newsgroup Wacko
<wacko@example.com> wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:38:07 -0500, John Fields wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 16:02:45 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net

Nah - they've got seat belts, shoulder harnesses, kid seats, air bags,
crush zones, roll bars - all kinds of crap to protect them from the
consequences of their own negligence.

And if their kids were killed because they _weren't_ buckled up, then
you'd condemn that as an act of negligence as well... You're a real piece
of shit, Rich.

Well, if their kids were killed by being placed in a death machine while
the "parents" inflict their negligence, maybe the "parents" should have
been taught not to breed in the first place.

---
That smacks of societally-inflicted birth control, something I
wouldn't have thought you would espouse, being a ***LIBERTARIAN*** and
all that, but I guess ideologies and principles go by the wayside when
you're trying to win an argument, huh?
---

It's kind of sad that otherwise grownup adult men aspire to name-calling
as if it were a valid argument.

---
I wasn't intended as an argument, it was intended as an insult. Kind
of like a 2X4 wielded to wake you up and make you look at the dance
you do which is planned to never let you see that you're often wrong.

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:02:48 GMT, Rich The Newsgroup Wacko
<wacko@example.com> wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 20:40:14 +0100, John Woodgate wrote:
I read in sci.electronics.design that Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
eatmyshorts@doubleclick.net> wrote (in
pan.2005.04.22.16.04.48.173774@doubleclick.net&gt about 'The 100%
Guaranteed Safe Automobile', on Fri, 22 Apr 2005:
Hell, it's already happening - just look at the latest election.

The Pope has an attitude to drunk driving?

No, I was talking about the _election_, not the installation of the
latest catholic fuehrer.

---
Other than your slur, above, I don't recall reading where he advocates
genocide of any type, so perhaps you'd care to explain yourself.

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[jim dorey]

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:17:06 -0700, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark
Remover" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote:

"A geneticist living in Delft
Scientifically played with himself,
And when he was done
He labled it: son,
And filed him away on a shelf."

Heh. Is this Rich as in Grise? I didn't think you made
those kinds of mistakes. It's (at least here in the U.S.)
"labeled".

hmm, if t's a direct quote then spelling mistakes are not his error.

--
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:17:06 -0700, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark
Remover" wrote:

"Rich The Newsgroup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in message
....
Rich
------
"A geneticist living in Delft
Scientifically played with himself,
And when he was done
He labled it: son,
And filed him away on a shelf."

Heh. Is this Rich as in Grise? I didn't think you made
those kinds of mistakes. It's (at least here in the U.S.)
"labeled".

What I've done is I have a little shell script in my .sig file -
I was curious to see if it'd execute, and it does:
---------------
#!/usr/bin/bash
echo 'Cheers!' ; echo 'Rich'
echo ' ------'
OFORTUNES=`ls /usr/share/games/fortunes/*-o`
echo \"`fortune $OFORTUNES`\"
---------------

And I didn't properly proofread the fortune that got printed.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

"Gareth" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
newsqdne2OBNle6fffRVnyrg@brightview.com...

jim dorey wrote:

I seem to remember a study which concluded that talking to other people
in the car is less distracting than talking to someone on a cell phone.
One of the explanations they gave was that a person in the car can see,
from your body language and their view of the road, when you need to
concentrate on driving rather than talking. By contrast someone on the
phone will probably hear you go quiet and start shouting "Hello...
HELLO... HELLLLLOOOO ARE YOU STILL THERE?"

Gareth

Ok, but then hands-free phones are no better, and they are not outlawed.
Eating is not outlawed either. It really doesn't make sense.

As for passengers knowing when to shut up, this is in sharp contrast with
some passengers I've had, who get hysterical and scream when the car ahead
suddenly stops or whatever, just at that moment when I have to concentrate.

--

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2 more zeros and remove the obvious.

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Tom Del Rosso" <ng01@att.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:Henbe.648666$w62.416820@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

"Gareth" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
newsqdne2OBNle6fffRVnyrg@brightview.com...
jim dorey wrote:

I seem to remember a study which concluded that talking to other
people
in the car is less distracting than talking to someone on a cell
phone.
One of the explanations they gave was that a person in the car can
see,
from your body language and their view of the road, when you need to
concentrate on driving rather than talking. By contrast someone on
the
phone will probably hear you go quiet and start shouting "Hello...
HELLO... HELLLLLOOOO ARE YOU STILL THERE?"

Gareth

Ok, but then hands-free phones are no better, and they are not
outlawed.
Eating is not outlawed either. It really doesn't make sense.

My pet peeve at the moment is the women who sit there at the stop light
putting makeup on in the rearview mirror, and are completely oblivious
to the other cars leaving when the light turns green. Get your head
outta the mirror and pay attention!

My pet P.O. yesterday afternoon was when I was trying to format a floppy
disk. I was logged on as administrator, and it told me "You do not have
sufficient permissions to perform this operation." GRRRRRRRRRR!!!! XP
must mean eXtra Pissed off!

As for passengers knowing when to shut up, this is in sharp contrast
with
some passengers I've had, who get hysterical and scream when the car
ahead
suddenly stops or whatever, just at that moment when I have to
concentrate.

--

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Tom Del Rosso
<ng01@att.net.invalid> wrote (in
<Henbe.648666$w62.416820@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net&gt about 'The
100% Guaranteed Safe Automobile', on Tue, 26 Apr 2005:

As for passengers knowing when to shut up, this is in sharp contrast
with some passengers I've had, who get hysterical and scream when the
car ahead suddenly stops or whatever, just at that moment when I have
to concentrate.

Scream-triggered ejector seats should be compulsory.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
There are two sides to every question, except
'What is a Moebius strip?'
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:40:39 +0000, Fred Bloggs wrote:

John Fields wrote:
And if their kids were killed because they _weren't_ buckled up, then
you'd condemn that as an act of negligence as well... You're a real
piece of shit, Rich.

Why even respond to his posts? It is obvious that this Grise character,
along with all his pseudonyms, is an ignorant, permanently unemployed,
low life, and pretentious, pseudo-intellectual, p.o.s.- the most OT and
worthless troll on NG.

Well, since Fred lives in Bizarro World, I can't imagine a higher
compliment than this sort of personalized venom. ;-)

Thanks!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:32:16 +0100, John Woodgate wrote:

I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Tom Del Rosso
ng01@att.net.invalid> wrote (in
Henbe.648666$w62.416820@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net&gt about 'The
100% Guaranteed Safe Automobile', on Tue, 26 Apr 2005:

As for passengers knowing when to shut up, this is in sharp contrast
with some passengers I've had, who get hysterical and scream when the
car ahead suddenly stops or whatever, just at that moment when I have
to concentrate.

Scream-triggered ejector seats should be compulsory.

Probably wouldn't do any good:
http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050417.html

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Woodgate wrote:

Scream-triggered ejector seats should be compulsory.

Even better, install remote controlled ejection seats in every car
and voting software on the receivers. If you piss off five other
drivers, out you go!

--
Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:426EDB2A.1331D31B@earthlink.net...

John Woodgate wrote:

Scream-triggered ejector seats should be compulsory.


Even better, install remote controlled ejection seats in every car
and voting software on the receivers. If you piss off five other
drivers, out you go!

--
Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

In a similar vein, one of my mates feels that everyone should be able to
kill one (just one) person in their life without repercussions. Would lead
to more civility ("Have they already or haven't they.....").

Ken

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:35:14 +1200, Ken Taylor wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:426EDB2A.1331D31B@earthlink.net...
John Woodgate wrote:

Scream-triggered ejector seats should be compulsory.


Even better, install remote controlled ejection seats in every car
and voting software on the receivers. If you piss off five other
drivers, out you go!

--
Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

In a similar vein, one of my mates feels that everyone should be able to
kill one (just one) person in their life without repercussions. Would lead
to more civility ("Have they already or haven't they.....").

Nah. Every man, woman, and child over about 7 should be armed to the
teeth. That way, the ones that need killing will be done with in very
short order, and the rest of us could just get on with our lives.

An armed society is a polite society!

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Rich Grise" <richgrise@example.net> wrote in message
newsan.2005.04.26.19.15.19.20337@example.net...

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:32:16 +0100, John Woodgate wrote:

I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Tom Del Rosso
ng01@att.net.invalid> wrote (in
Henbe.648666$w62.416820@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net&gt about
'The
100% Guaranteed Safe Automobile', on Tue, 26 Apr 2005:

As for passengers knowing when to shut up, this is in sharp contrast
with some passengers I've had, who get hysterical and scream when
the
car ahead suddenly stops or whatever, just at that moment when I
have
to concentrate.

Scream-triggered ejector seats should be compulsory.

Probably wouldn't do any good:
http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050417.html

Cheers!
Rich

You aren't allowed to do Dilbert around here. There's already enough of
the same crap in the real work world.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Ken Taylor wrote:

In a similar vein, one of my mates feels that everyone should be able to
kill one (just one) person in their life without repercussions. Would lead
to more civility ("Have they already or haven't they.....").

Ken

Or, "Do you feel lucky, punk?" ;-)

--
Former professional electron wrangler.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida