politics, sorry, but this is great...

On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 7:30:42 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:25:25 +0100, David Brown <david...@hesbynett.no> wrote:
On 15/01/2022 16:57, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 16:39:01 +0100, David Brown <david...@hesbynett.no> wrote:
On 14/01/2022 23:55, John Larkin wrote:

I don\'t think you /see/ anything except what you choose to look at in
order to bolster your screwed-up views.

Tribal name-calling is not rational thought or discussion.

But John Larkin doesn\'t do anything else.

\" But it\'s not. Socialists are literally more social than the average person. Leftists believe in collective action to govern everybody.\"

That\'s communists, not socialists.

\"They are more dogmatic, more tribal, more unhappy with the traditional norms of human behavior. More afraid. \"

That\'s merely irrational nonsense - tribal name-calling.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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Not so. Some people are afraid of most everything.

** Called neurotics.

> I know people who are terrified of this latest virus.

** Sensible fear.

I\'ve known EEs who wouldn\'t touch a
PCB when they know the supply rail is 5 volts;

** Autistic neurotics.

> Some people rarely if ever feel fear.

** As if you could ever tell.

We had some fun recently with home covid tests. They required a tiny
finger prick to get a drop of blood. One macho guy, a rock climber
among other things, broke into a sweat and untimately couldn\'t do it.
I offered to zap him and he refused that too.

** Phobias about seeing blood, one own or others are not unusual.

> I think propensity to fear is mostly inborn.

** A basic, self protection instinct.

> Some kids have it, some don\'t.

** Utter bullshit.



..... Phil
 
On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 8:05:28 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:33:54 +0100, David Brown <david...@hesbynett.no> wrote:
On 15/01/2022 18:51, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 17:41:39 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard > <pom...@aol.com> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 14:55:19 -0800, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

<snip>

Of course they are - because many kids today have a far better grasp of
reality and science than you do. Previous generations have totally
disregarded the abuse of the planet and overuse of resources - they have
been happy to push the problems on to the future generations.

Previous generations, many by now, have predicted imminent doom: peak
oil, global cooling, mass starvation, using up all the metals. It
hasn\'t happened; things keep getting better.

Those weren\'t predictions - more ill-informed warnings about what might happen.

Anthropogenic global warming is real and happening now, creating real problems and killing real people, and there are excellent observations that show that it is getting worse quite rapidly.

https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/

> Nobody seems to be pointing out to the kids how well off they are by historical standards. Ungrateful little brats.

Steve Pinker has written a book about it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightenment_Now

Of course an enlightened approach to anthropogenic global warming involves doing something about it before it gets even worse, and John Larkin doesn\'t feel like being that enlightened.

> You\'re being tribal again. Beats thinking.

That\'s our John Larkin. He can\'t think and won\'t think, and posts tribal slurs against people who can and do.

have been happy in the knowledge that you\'ll be dead before
the seas swamp your cities so it is not /your/ problem.

At 2 mm per year, we\'ll probably have another ice age before we drown.

That 2mm per year is the thermal expansion of the existing oceans. John Larkin ignores the the six metres of sea level rise tied up in the Greenland ice sheet, and the four metres tied up in the West Antarctic ice sheet, which will make themselves felt quite rapidly when these ice sheets chose to slide off into the ocean (as a whole bunch if ice sheets did at the end of the most recent ice age).

> Being a mile deep in ice *would* be a lot worse than ankle-deep in warm sea water. Make more CO2.

10 metres of sea level rise isn\'t ankle deep, and we\'ve already dumped enough CO2 into the atmosphere to immunise us against another ice age for a few tens of thousands of year.

> The big sea level problem in coastal cities is manmade subsidence from pumping out groundwater. Bad for real estate values for the beach villas.

It is right now. When the ice sheets start sliding more rapidly, we\'ll be in a different situation.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 9:35:34 AM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
David Brown wrote:
===============> JL wrote:

Kids today are literally afraid of the world being destroyed by
climate change. \"How dare you!\" build what we have.


Of course they are - because many kids today have a far better grasp of
reality and science than you do.

** Totally delusional thinking.

Phil Allison doesn\'t think at all and parades other people delusions more or less nonstop.
JL\'s quote is from mad Greta - who simply has no grasp of anything.

Not remotely true. Greta Thunberg is remarkably sane.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Thunberg

> But at least she has the excuse of being a child stooge for other\'s ambitions.

Phil may think that. It\'s the kind of unrealistic nonsense he does like to believe.

> Lefty fuckwits like Brown have no excuse whatever.

Except that David Brown isn\'t any kind of fuckwit, and Phil Allison\'s addiction to the nonsense he hears on Sky News and his delusions about autists under every bed mark him out as classic fuckwit. He does know quite a bit about audio electronics, but that merely makes him an idiot savant. They do tend to suffer from autism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savant_syndrome

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 11:01:17 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 22:05:50 +0000, Tom Gardner <spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 15/01/22 20:30, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:25:25 +0100, David Brown <david...@hesbynett.no> wrote:
On 15/01/2022 16:57, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 16:39:01 +0100, David Brown <david...@hesbynett..no> wrote:
On 14/01/2022 23:55, John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

Some people are so hidebound they can\'t /think/ anymore.

And some people, namely most people here, switch to personal insults instead of considering objective opinions.

John Larkin does seem to be prize example of the breed.

\" Being social, tribal, means that one is hypersensitive to group behavior and peer pressure. And afraid of rejection by peers. That means, in engineering, doing everything by the book and being inhibited against presenting radical ideas. I see this all the time.\"

He likes to think that this is what he sees - what he is actually seeing is people being rude about his silly ideas, and he\'s too silly to realise that they are right.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 9:51:50 AM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 17:41:39 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
pom...@aol.com> wrote:

On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 14:55:19 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

Discounting climate change, being optimistic about the
future, is the opposite of being scared.

Don\'t be silly; climate change is susceptible to investigation and contemplation
without regard to optimism, or fear, or argyle socks. You do need awareness, wisdom,
and some measure of worldwide cooperative action (even if it\'s only
to compare notes).

> Kids today are...

You sound like everyone\'s granddad.
 
corvid wrote:
================
Tribal name-calling is not rational thought or discussion.

I wonder how much time David spent on writing that post. It\'s the sort
of thing I\'d expect to find published in the \"Opinion\" section of a good
newspaper.

** You mean some left wing rag like the NYT ?

David Brown is half witted, raving nut case virtue signaler.

And you fuckwit handle is way too close to killer bat virus.




...... Phil
 
On 1/15/22 21:17, Phil Allison wrote:
corvid wrote:
================

Tribal name-calling is not rational thought or discussion.

I wonder how much time David spent on writing that post. It\'s the sort
of thing I\'d expect to find published in the \"Opinion\" section of a good
newspaper.


** You mean some left wing rag like the NYT ?

David Brown is half witted, raving nut case virtue signaler.

And you fuckwit handle is way too close to killer bat virus.




..... Phil

I want to be Green Siskin. I saw that on my last bag of wild bird seed.
 
David Brown = Rabid Psychopath vomited
===============================
Tribal name-calling is not rational thought or discussion.

I wonder how much time David spent on writing that post. It\'s the sort
of thing I\'d expect to find published in the \"Opinion\" section of a good
newspaper.

Not long, really. Unfortunately, as you can see from the responses,
it\'s preaching to the choir.

** How fucking DELUSIONAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brown is a ASD fucked utter moron.


Still, I\'m glad at least some people enjoyed it -
it seems even Phil Allison liked it in his own somewhat peculiar fashion.

** My god - is there no end to this brain dead POS\'s putrid insanity.

His skull must be 2 inches fucking thick.



........ Phil
 
On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 9:10:31 PM UTC+11, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
David Brown = Rabid Psychopath vomited
==============================
Tribal name-calling is not rational thought or discussion.

I wonder how much time David spent on writing that post. It\'s the sort
of thing I\'d expect to find published in the \"Opinion\" section of a good
newspaper.

Not long, really. Unfortunately, as you can see from the responses,
it\'s preaching to the choir.

** How fucking DELUSIONAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phil is the deluded idiot here.

> Brown is a ASD fucked utter moron.

Far from it. A lot further from that state than Phil is. If anybody who posts here is on the autism spectrum it\'s got to be Phil - he sees more austism than the rest of us put together, and lot more than you\'d expect from the known population incidence, so it does look as if Phil has a personal interest in the problem. and there was nothing moronic about his post - quite the reverse (which may be part of the problem, for Phil).

Still, I\'m glad at least some people enjoyed it -
it seems even Phil Allison liked it in his own somewhat peculiar fashion.

** My god - is there no end to this brain dead POS\'s putrid insanity.

I think the implication was that you weren\'t quite as far over the top in your objections to it as you have been known to be - you were merely cross rather than throwing your usual screaming tantrum.

> His skull must be 2 inches fucking thick.

Phil draws a nonsense conclusion from his own bizarre reading of a perfectly sensible comment (which he naturally doesn\'t want to agree with).

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:11:26 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
news:6nv3ugto7ejcn4lsdte4jrduf6oag2o1ph@4ax.com:

Conservatives are better engineers too.


You just can\'t stop spouting retarded, divisive stupid shit, eh?
You should have somebody sew that upper anus shut.

Best ignore the gullible old narcissist.
 
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 13:49:15 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
<PommyB@aol.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:11:26 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
news:6nv3ugto7ejcn4lsdte4jrduf6oag2o1ph@4ax.com:

Conservatives are better engineers too.


You just can\'t stop spouting retarded, divisive stupid shit, eh?
You should have somebody sew that upper anus shut.

Best ignore the gullible old narcissist.

Several of them. They don\'t design electronics anyhow.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye
 
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 21:49:19 -0800, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:

On 1/15/22 21:17, Phil Allison wrote:
corvid wrote:
================

Tribal name-calling is not rational thought or discussion.

I wonder how much time David spent on writing that post. It\'s the sort
of thing I\'d expect to find published in the \"Opinion\" section of a good
newspaper.


** You mean some left wing rag like the NYT ?

David Brown is half witted, raving nut case virtue signaler.

And you fuckwit handle is way too close to killer bat virus.




..... Phil

I want to be Green Siskin. I saw that on my last bag of wild bird seed.

After extensive controlled experiments, we have found that wild birds
by far prefer Fritos. So do squirrels.

We have a local one-legged scrub jay \"Gimpy\" that will rip a Frito out
of my hand, mid-air if I\'m too slow putting them down on the deck.

The jays and the ravens fight over the Fritos. The jays win.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye
 
On 16/01/2022 16:25, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 13:49:15 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
PommyB@aol.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:11:26 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
news:6nv3ugto7ejcn4lsdte4jrduf6oag2o1ph@4ax.com:

Conservatives are better engineers too.


You just can\'t stop spouting retarded, divisive stupid shit, eh?
You should have somebody sew that upper anus shut.

Best ignore the gullible old narcissist.

Several of them. They don\'t design electronics anyhow.

You do realise that people who actually /do/ design work - real work, on
real products - rarely discuss details of proprietary designs with
random strangers on the internet? The only people here who talk about
their work are amateurs (nothing wrong with that - it is not an insult
of any kind), retirees (again, nothing wrong with that) and people who
boast about how much better they are than everyone else, despite a
complete absence of any kind of evidence or justification.
 
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 17:29:12 +0100, David Brown
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 16/01/2022 16:25, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 13:49:15 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
PommyB@aol.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:11:26 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
news:6nv3ugto7ejcn4lsdte4jrduf6oag2o1ph@4ax.com:

Conservatives are better engineers too.


You just can\'t stop spouting retarded, divisive stupid shit, eh?
You should have somebody sew that upper anus shut.

Best ignore the gullible old narcissist.

Several of them. They don\'t design electronics anyhow.


You do realise that people who actually /do/ design work - real work, on
real products - rarely discuss details of proprietary designs with
random strangers on the internet? The only people here who talk about
their work are amateurs (nothing wrong with that - it is not an insult
of any kind), retirees (again, nothing wrong with that) and people who
boast about how much better they are than everyone else, despite a
complete absence of any kind of evidence or justification.

Precisely. Couldn\'t have put it better myself.

Classically narcissistic behaviour.

 
On 1/16/22 07:59, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 21:49:19 -0800, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:

I want to be Green Siskin. I saw that on my last bag of wild bird seed.

Pine Siskin.

https://ebird.org/species/pinsis/US-CA-037
https://cdn.download.ams.birds.cornell.edu/api/v1/asset/550609/audio

After extensive controlled experiments, we have found that wild birds
by far prefer Fritos. So do squirrels.

We have a local one-legged scrub jay \"Gimpy\" that will rip a Frito out
of my hand, mid-air if I\'m too slow putting them down on the deck.

Ours is \"Berry\", lost a foot many months ago. Another jay limps on a bad
leg. I think they\'re being injured by someone\'s mouse traps.
 
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 10:00:04 -0800, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:

On 1/16/22 07:59, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 21:49:19 -0800, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:

I want to be Green Siskin. I saw that on my last bag of wild bird seed.

Pine Siskin.

https://ebird.org/species/pinsis/US-CA-037
https://cdn.download.ams.birds.cornell.edu/api/v1/asset/550609/audio

After extensive controlled experiments, we have found that wild birds
by far prefer Fritos. So do squirrels.

We have a local one-legged scrub jay \"Gimpy\" that will rip a Frito out
of my hand, mid-air if I\'m too slow putting them down on the deck.

Ours is \"Berry\", lost a foot many months ago. Another jay limps on a bad
leg. I think they\'re being injured by someone\'s mouse traps.

Possibly bit by a snake or something. Gimpy seems to get along fine.
Birds often perch on one lag.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye
 
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 17:29:12 +0100, David Brown
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 16/01/2022 16:25, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 13:49:15 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
PommyB@aol.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:11:26 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
news:6nv3ugto7ejcn4lsdte4jrduf6oag2o1ph@4ax.com:

Conservatives are better engineers too.


You just can\'t stop spouting retarded, divisive stupid shit, eh?
You should have somebody sew that upper anus shut.

Best ignore the gullible old narcissist.

Several of them. They don\'t design electronics anyhow.


You do realise that people who actually /do/ design work - real work, on
real products - rarely discuss details of proprietary designs with
random strangers on the internet? The only people here who talk about
their work are amateurs (nothing wrong with that - it is not an insult
of any kind), retirees (again, nothing wrong with that) and people who
boast about how much better they are than everyone else, despite a
complete absence of any kind of evidence or justification.

I design in public; actual problems, sims, circuits, parts, boards,
boxes. It makes for conversation and idea sharing. It helps me think.
I have met some cool people.

It\'s not ego; I just like electronics. When have I boasted about being
much better than everyone else? Cite? Besides, it\'s not true.

Sadly, the endless ritual insults and old-hen-clucking here have
driven away a few really good and candid people. I\'m not so much
better than other engineers, merely still here and talking about
electronics.

Most people here keep a lot of details to themselves, presenting
under-specified problems that they want help with, when they have no
reason to do that. Only a few people are open and generous about the
topic here, electronic design. I wonder why so many people are so
secretive, even amateurs who have no employer NDAs or anything.

If I post a sim or a schematic or a PCB layout, why would you think
that is boasting? Weird.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye
 
On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 11:32:57 AM UTC-5, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 17:29:12 +0100, David Brown
david...@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 16/01/2022 16:25, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 13:49:15 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
Pom...@aol.com> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 20:11:26 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
news:6nv3ugto7ejcn4lsd...@4ax.com:

Conservatives are better engineers too.


You just can\'t stop spouting retarded, divisive stupid shit, eh?
You should have somebody sew that upper anus shut.

Best ignore the gullible old narcissist.

Several of them. They don\'t design electronics anyhow.


You do realise that people who actually /do/ design work - real work, on
real products - rarely discuss details of proprietary designs with
random strangers on the internet? The only people here who talk about
their work are amateurs (nothing wrong with that - it is not an insult
of any kind), retirees (again, nothing wrong with that) and people who
boast about how much better they are than everyone else, despite a
complete absence of any kind of evidence or justification.
Precisely. Couldn\'t have put it better myself.

Classically narcissistic behaviour.

+1

However, anyone posting to this group and complaining about others, has their own psychological issues and that includes me. It\'s like yelling into a well. No one hears you but yourself and the trolls... trolls... trolls.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Sadly, the endless ritual insults and old-hen-clucking here have
driven away a few really good and candid people.

Only technically illiterate people who cannot press the \"Ignore Thread\" key.

Maybe it shouldn\'t be necessary, but seriously... Single-key \"Ignore Thread\"
with any half decent newsreader is trivial.

And when you add single-key \"Ignore Sub Thread\", you have the tools for easy
USENET reading. All they have to do is exercise some self-control and use
those two keys. The rest of it is just the way USENET is, with its free
speech.
 

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