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Reg Edwards
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Belief in God is the same as the belief in Santa Claus.
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Belief in God is the same as the belief in Santa Claus.
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Santa Claus
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"Reg Edwards" <g4fgq.regp@ZZZbtinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d1cf47$bu7$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
elses missplaced delusions?
You do realise that that one will cost you a lifetime of socks, yfronts and
old spice. It's not that I'm vindictive, that's just the way it is.
SC
news:d1cf47$bu7$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
Here we go again, why do I get to suffer bad press as a result of someone
elses missplaced delusions?
You do realise that that one will cost you a lifetime of socks, yfronts and
old spice. It's not that I'm vindictive, that's just the way it is.
SC
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Active8
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:33:25 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
*that* author quoting the things some xtians [1] say or believe. He
was bashing those xtians. I know xtians like this that will tell you
that focusing on the environ (they like to bash the greens) takes
their focus off god, and is therefor bad or even evil.
So if you agree that the above quote is a fantasy, then you side
with the author of the article.
repeating the same arguments that have been drilled into their heads
despite common sense or any scipture that suggests that they are off
base or outright wrong.
For instance, they pick a few verses supporting a pre-tribulation
"rapture" and refuse to acknowledge a passage in II Thesalonians
which hints of a post-trib "rapture". A post-trib "rapture" teaching
would send the congregation to the surplus stores to spend their
tithe on survival gear.
They also have extrapolated that the people in the Sodom & Gamhorra
story that wanted to take the "angels", wanted to bugger them.
They'd do better using the "prophecies" in Revelations as an
argument against gays.
Again, the author is the one bashing certain xtian attitudes toward
the environment.
I therefor thought that maybe you meant that that he's slandering
Bush, sans substantiation. He does make some strong accusations and
if they're true, then that would be one sobering article. I've heard
that Bush has rolled back some environmental protections, but this
is the first news where I've seen so many accusations put together.
[1] xtians - obviously shorthand for "christians" - a term first
used by mockers at Antioch. Prior to that, it was called "the way".
I think grail lore called it something similar to "the way".
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Best Regards,
Mike
Wait. The author of the article is the one you bashed. The above was
*that* author quoting the things some xtians [1] say or believe. He
was bashing those xtians. I know xtians like this that will tell you
that focusing on the environ (they like to bash the greens) takes
their focus off god, and is therefor bad or even evil.
So if you agree that the above quote is a fantasy, then you side
with the author of the article.
That's not the point. The "fundamentalist" xtians have a way of
repeating the same arguments that have been drilled into their heads
despite common sense or any scipture that suggests that they are off
base or outright wrong.
For instance, they pick a few verses supporting a pre-tribulation
"rapture" and refuse to acknowledge a passage in II Thesalonians
which hints of a post-trib "rapture". A post-trib "rapture" teaching
would send the congregation to the surplus stores to spend their
tithe on survival gear.
They also have extrapolated that the people in the Sodom & Gamhorra
story that wanted to take the "angels", wanted to bugger them.
They'd do better using the "prophecies" in Revelations as an
argument against gays.
Again, the author is the one bashing certain xtian attitudes toward
the environment.
I therefor thought that maybe you meant that that he's slandering
Bush, sans substantiation. He does make some strong accusations and
if they're true, then that would be one sobering article. I've heard
that Bush has rolled back some environmental protections, but this
is the first news where I've seen so many accusations put together.
[1] xtians - obviously shorthand for "christians" - a term first
used by mockers at Antioch. Prior to that, it was called "the way".
I think grail lore called it something similar to "the way".
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Best Regards,
Mike
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Active8
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:31:54 -0500, Mark Jones wrote:
mystical magical interpretations of the scriptures? They'll have no
problem debating "facts" based on magical interpretations. By
replying to me, your whole post is out of context.
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Best Regards,
Mike
Why not direct your reply to one of the zealots that believe the
mystical magical interpretations of the scriptures? They'll have no
problem debating "facts" based on magical interpretations. By
replying to me, your whole post is out of context.
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Best Regards,
Mike
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Jim Thompson
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:56:35 -0500, Active8 <reply2group@ndbbm.net>
wrote:
think freedom of speech means shouting down anyone you don't agree
with.
...Jim Thompson
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice
480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
wrote:
"xtians", That's sort of like Democrats. Only difference is Democrats
think freedom of speech means shouting down anyone you don't agree
with.
...Jim Thompson
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| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice
480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax
480)460-2142 | Brass Rat || http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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Rich The Philosophizer
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:31:54 -0500, Mark Jones wrote:
one running the godhead, while Lucifer's been on Earth doing his mischief -
they're both denials of Love, and both need to go back to the Void.
http://www.godchannel.com/ahriman.html
Good Luck!
Rich
for further information, please visit http://www.godchannel.com
Actually, there's two devils, Lucifer and Ahriman, and Ahriman's been the
one running the godhead, while Lucifer's been on Earth doing his mischief -
they're both denials of Love, and both need to go back to the Void.
http://www.godchannel.com/ahriman.html
Good Luck!
Rich
for further information, please visit http://www.godchannel.com
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xray
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:13:42 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
they disagree with.
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
Perhaps. I prefer that to the right-wing tendency to shoot down those
they disagree with.
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Rich Grise
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:04:14 +0000, Ken Smith wrote:
your character through a video game arcade, conquering all of the machines
by controlling your guy, who controls the machine. When you get the high
score on all of the games in the virtual arcade, you finally graduate
to the final game: VidMan.
Cheers!
Rich
Are you sure he's not just playing VidMan? That's a game where you guide
your character through a video game arcade, conquering all of the machines
by controlling your guy, who controls the machine. When you get the high
score on all of the games in the virtual arcade, you finally graduate
to the final game: VidMan.
Cheers!
Rich
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John Woodgate
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote (in <v2pj31pgh5qtjahq6j0chj3kgrhu2hebq5@
4ax.com> about 'OT - Welcome to Doomsday', on Thu, 17 Mar 2005:
for three years. (;-)
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Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote (in <v2pj31pgh5qtjahq6j0chj3kgrhu2hebq5@
4ax.com>
about 'OT - Welcome to Doomsday', on Thu, 17 Mar 2005:Whereas the others used to burn them, and now refuse to speak to them
for three years. (;-)
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Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
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Terry Given
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Santa Claus wrote:
(which BTW is an anagram for SATAN - go figure)
Cheers
Terry
ROTFLMAO! Thanks, santa
(which BTW is an anagram for SATAN - go figure)
Cheers
Terry
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Dirk Bruere at Neopax
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Rich The Philosophizer wrote:
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Dirk
The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
That's not quite Steiner's interpretation.
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Dirk
The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org
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richard mullens
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James Beck wrote:
I worked in California and tuned into the cable channels. There was one, perhaps two "God Channels" available.
I flew to a customer in Indianapolis - and behold on the Hotel TV there were loads of those channels.
I worked for a company in Florida. The Chief Technology officer was (and is) a believer in the literal truth of the bible. The
programmers read the bible together at lunchtimes.
As a rule, we don't get those religeous channels in Europe. Maybe there are some, but I've not come across them. (You're more
likely to come across a porn channel) - they show a bit then you have to pay to see the rest.
The prevalence of these medieval views is much greater in the USA than it is in Europe (even in the Vatican city they don't
believe in the literal truth of the bible).
I'm sorry if you feel that I was being insulting, but in terms of the influence of religeon on politics, the USA is more like
Iran than Europe ;-)
Do you really think that I would make such an assertion without something to back it up ?
I worked in California and tuned into the cable channels. There was one, perhaps two "God Channels" available.
I flew to a customer in Indianapolis - and behold on the Hotel TV there were loads of those channels.
I worked for a company in Florida. The Chief Technology officer was (and is) a believer in the literal truth of the bible. The
programmers read the bible together at lunchtimes.
As a rule, we don't get those religeous channels in Europe. Maybe there are some, but I've not come across them. (You're more
likely to come across a porn channel) - they show a bit then you have to pay to see the rest.
The prevalence of these medieval views is much greater in the USA than it is in Europe (even in the Vatican city they don't
believe in the literal truth of the bible).
I'm sorry if you feel that I was being insulting, but in terms of the influence of religeon on politics, the USA is more like
Iran than Europe ;-)
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James Beck
Guest
In article <Gzm_d.1427$g3.521@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>,
mullensdeletethis@ntlworld.com says...
"proof". Yes, you can find religous programs on TV here. They have the
right to broadcast just as much as NBC does. You can pretty much find a
cable/satellite channel that caters to whatever strikes your fancy here.
Jim
mullensdeletethis@ntlworld.com says...
to the entire US? No matter how you slice it that is pretty thin
"proof". Yes, you can find religous programs on TV here. They have the
right to broadcast just as much as NBC does. You can pretty much find a
cable/satellite channel that caters to whatever strikes your fancy here.
Jim
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richard mullens
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James Beck wrote:
That constituency doesn't exist in Europe (thank God).
When creationism is taught in schools here - that is news.
Perhaps the following is just European propaganda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism - or maybe it has some basis in fact.
You may believe what you like. The "God channels" broadcast to a constituency.
That constituency doesn't exist in Europe (thank God).
When creationism is taught in schools here - that is news.
Perhaps the following is just European propaganda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism - or maybe it has some basis in fact.
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Active8
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:23:50 GMT, richard mullens wrote:
<snip>
bunch though not overtly so. Comments like "Unix/Linux was written
by drug crazed hippies," and sh*t like that. Comments about my
goatee or "dress down day" t-shirt. F*cking hypocrites.
xtians. They used to disuade folowers from reading the bible and
their doctrine is rarely if ever biblically based. I remember the ho
hum lip service they paid the bible on sundays. Just a short reading
of a few benign verses upon which they based the Homily (?) part of
the service prior to doling out the Jesus cookies. This link isn't
totally about that, but it's mentioned.
http://www.karenlyster.com/body_bookish1.html
That site blew my mind. I like the way it takes the magic out of the
Jesus story. I'd have to buy the book because the synopsis leaves a
number of questions unanswered for me.
It also agrees with my hypothesis that the Catholic church was
created to keep the Romans in power. Jesus' teachings would have
caused a revolt.
LaHaye is mentioned in the article the OP linked to and also in the
link I found for the "Rapture Index". That was good for a laugh...
They think they've applied the scientific method to forecasting a
contreived future magical event. Incredible! Anyway, I read LaHaye's
book. He mentioned that politics and religion are tools of the
devil. IOW, religion is created by man - a distortion of what *he
thinks* the bible says.
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Best Regards,
Mike
<snip>
I coded for one that would pray at staff meetings. Pretty judgmental
bunch though not overtly so. Comments like "Unix/Linux was written
by drug crazed hippies," and sh*t like that. Comments about my
goatee or "dress down day" t-shirt. F*cking hypocrites.
Er... the catholic church is hardly a standard by which to compare
xtians. They used to disuade folowers from reading the bible and
their doctrine is rarely if ever biblically based. I remember the ho
hum lip service they paid the bible on sundays. Just a short reading
of a few benign verses upon which they based the Homily (?) part of
the service prior to doling out the Jesus cookies. This link isn't
totally about that, but it's mentioned.
http://www.karenlyster.com/body_bookish1.html
That site blew my mind. I like the way it takes the magic out of the
Jesus story. I'd have to buy the book because the synopsis leaves a
number of questions unanswered for me.
It also agrees with my hypothesis that the Catholic church was
created to keep the Romans in power. Jesus' teachings would have
caused a revolt.
Religion has caused how many deaths?
LaHaye is mentioned in the article the OP linked to and also in the
link I found for the "Rapture Index". That was good for a laugh...
They think they've applied the scientific method to forecasting a
contreived future magical event. Incredible! Anyway, I read LaHaye's
book. He mentioned that politics and religion are tools of the
devil. IOW, religion is created by man - a distortion of what *he
thinks* the bible says.
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Best Regards,
Mike
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Active8
Guest
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:30:41 GMT, richard mullens wrote:
corrupted, whatever. Not that they're the only ones. Check out the
link. It's long, but I just took it a bit at a time. You never heard
any of that in catholic school and you won't get it from the
Baptist's, Pents, or any other mainstream relion that I know. They
prefer to squabble over differences in interpretations of the bible
with all the magic in it.
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Best Regards,
Mike
Old testament? They played games with the new test - diluted,
corrupted, whatever. Not that they're the only ones. Check out the
link. It's long, but I just took it a bit at a time. You never heard
any of that in catholic school and you won't get it from the
Baptist's, Pents, or any other mainstream relion that I know. They
prefer to squabble over differences in interpretations of the bible
with all the magic in it.
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Best Regards,
Mike
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Robert Monsen
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Reg Edwards wrote:
Top ten reasons I want the rapture to happen:
10) No more Jehovah's Witnesses at the door Sunday mornings.
9) Free stuff, everywhere!
8) Christmas no longer dragged down with annoying religious overtones.
7) No more guilt about watching football on Sunday morning.
6) Bingo halls available for other uses.
5) Will be able to buy Pope's hat and Sceptre on E-bay
4) Moyers may stop whining about it.
3) Bill Clinton will no longer have to pretend to believe in God.
2) George Bush and his entire administration, along with the red 1/2 of
Congress, will suddenly vanish.
1) Democrats may actually be able to win electrions again.
(This last one is doubtful, however, Howard Dean is now running the
party. If anybody can screw up a sure thing, it's Howard).
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Regards,
Robert Monsen
"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.
I'm actually hoping the Rapture happens. The index is climbing....
Top ten reasons I want the rapture to happen:
10) No more Jehovah's Witnesses at the door Sunday mornings.
9) Free stuff, everywhere!
8) Christmas no longer dragged down with annoying religious overtones.
7) No more guilt about watching football on Sunday morning.
6) Bingo halls available for other uses.
5) Will be able to buy Pope's hat and Sceptre on E-bay
4) Moyers may stop whining about it.
3) Bill Clinton will no longer have to pretend to believe in God.
2) George Bush and his entire administration, along with the red 1/2 of
Congress, will suddenly vanish.
1) Democrats may actually be able to win electrions again.
(This last one is doubtful, however, Howard Dean is now running the
party. If anybody can screw up a sure thing, it's Howard).
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Regards,
Robert Monsen
"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.
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John Larkin
Guest
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:44:08 -0800, Robert Monsen
<rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote:
happen.
But Hillary is inching toward the Lord. When she was recently asked
whether she would work on something, she told the reporter that she
had "More on my plate than I can say Grace over." Guess who's got
religion now?
John
<rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote:
Exactly! It would take a lot more than the End Of Time to make that
happen.
But Hillary is inching toward the Lord. When she was recently asked
whether she would work on something, she told the reporter that she
had "More on my plate than I can say Grace over." Guess who's got
religion now?
John
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Ken Smith
Guest
In article <CobVMJACGaOCFwgy@jmwa.demon.co.uk>,
John Woodgate <noone@yuk.yuk> wrote:
walking and munching everything that comes under your mouth. Cows graze
on grass but don't, usually, pull its roots out. Deer browse on shoots
and leaves.
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John Woodgate <noone@yuk.yuk> wrote:
No, browsing means a nibble here and a nibble there. Grazing meansI read in sci.electronics.design that Ken Smith
kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote (in <d1c62i$6db$1@blue.rahul.net>
about 'OT - Welcome to Doomsday', on Thu, 17 Mar 2005:
Sheep
tend to pull up grass etc roots and all.
I think it's goats that do that (browsing rather than grazing). You
aren't browsing the web unless you pull up the root folder. (;-)
walking and munching everything that comes under your mouth. Cows graze
on grass but don't, usually, pull its roots out. Deer browse on shoots
and leaves.
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Ken Smith
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In article <fd6dnfS9YOXFuaffRVn-pA@comcast.com>,
Robert Monsen <rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote:
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Robert Monsen <rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote:
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