OT - Welcome to Doomsday

Gary Richardson · Mar 17, 2005

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17852

Dirk Bruere at Neopax · Mar 17, 2005

Gary Richardson wrote:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17852

The good news is that it only applies to the US.
The rest of the world is fairly sane.

--
Dirk

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The political party for the new millenium
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John Larkin · Mar 17, 2005

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:03:19 -0800, "Gary Richardson"
<garyr@fidalgo.net> wrote:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17852

Only one part of this drivel makes sense:

"When I talk about this before a live audience I can see from the look
on the faces before me just how hard it is for a journalist to report
on such things with any credibility."

He got that part right.

John

Active8 · Mar 17, 2005

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:50:19 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:03:19 -0800, "Gary Richardson"
garyr@fidalgo.net> wrote:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17852

Only one part of this drivel makes sense:

"When I talk about this before a live audience I can see from the look
on the faces before me just how hard it is for a journalist to report
on such things with any credibility."

He got that part right.

The political aspect of the article is something I've not verified.
Are you saying that all that "evil" stuff he's accusing Bush of
doing is hogwash? I sure hope it not that bad.

I saw a number of things that ring true on the religious front.

<quote>
"The world cannot be saved." It leads to "appalling ethics," she
reasons, because the faithful are relieved of concern for the
environment, violence, and everything else except their personal
salvation. The earth suffers the same fate as the unsaved. All are
destroyed.
</quote>

I know xtians that believes that way. Same goes for the crap they
shovel into their overweight faces. "All meat is good to eat..."
Never mind the passages on gluttony.
--
Best Regards,
Mike

Mar 17, 2005

Jared Diamond's new book "Collapse" ISBN: 0713992867 lists a couple of
historical examples of the way other parts of the world have managed to
flush their communities down the tubes.

Cutting down too many of your trees always seems to have been a popular
way of drastically reducing the size of the population that you can
feed.

He also mentions at least one example of a community who did the right
thing - sadly, Dubbya's crew seem to have more in common with the crew
that cut down every last tree on Easter Island than they do with the
Polynesian Islanders who decided that pigs were a high status luxury
that they couldn't afford.

----------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

John Woodgate · Mar 17, 2005

I read in sci.electronics.design that bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote (in
<1111052717.647418.209870@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com&gt

about 'OT -
Welcome to Doomsday', on Thu, 17 Mar 2005:

Dubbya's crew seem to have more in common with the crew
that cut down every last tree on Easter Island than they do with the
Polynesian Islanders who decided that pigs were a high status luxury
that they couldn't afford.

In Polynesia, you have coconuts, breadfruit and fish that volunteer to
be caught. You don't even have to go to sea to catch crabs - they come
ashore by themselves. Who NEEDS pigs in that case?
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

richard mullens · Mar 17, 2005

Gary Richardson wrote:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17852

If you believe the creationists, then God created the earth with all the fossils in place and the carbon isotope balance the way
it is. Unfortunately there are some otherwise very intelligent people who believe that crap.

With those sort of medieval beliefs prevalent in the USA it is no wonder there are nonsensical policies in place.

Ken Smith · Mar 17, 2005

In article <4239822E.2060607@nospam.com>,
Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
[...]

In what way were pigs detrimental to the environment? I don't see where
a pig here or there would be such a big deal.

Pigs are bad news in places with hills and major rain storms. Sheep tend
to pull up grass etc roots and all. Pigs dig down to get at the roots.
Both loosen up the soil on hill sides and make them more likely to erode.

In the wild form, pigs are extra nasty. I knew someone who got tossed up
into a thorn bush by a pig he was hunting. Deer are much safer to hunt.

--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

Ken Smith · Mar 17, 2005

In article <B9e_d.683$HL6.415@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>,
richard mullens <mullensdeletethis@ntlworld.com> wrote:
[..]

If you believe the creationists, then God created the earth with all the
fossils in place and the carbon isotope balance the way
it is. Unfortunately there are some otherwise very intelligent people
who believe that crap.

I believe that God created everything 3.14159 seconds ago including our
memory of a past that extends beyond that point. :>

BTW: God is just a 14 year old boy playing simuniverse and we are just a
bunch of digital sprites within the computer. It will be a major bummer
when his mom calls him for dinner.

--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

Ken Smith · Mar 17, 2005

In article <k01crqC7IWOCFwkv@jmwa.demon.co.uk>,
John Woodgate <noone@yuk.yuk> wrote:
[...]

In Polynesia, you have coconuts, breadfruit and fish that volunteer to
be caught. You don't even have to go to sea to catch crabs - they come
ashore by themselves. Who NEEDS pigs in that case?

The main reason to go to sea is to get away from the others. When an
island got too populated, a fraction of the people would move to the next
island down the chain. Unfortunately at Easter island, there was no next
island for a portion of the population to go to and they used up the raw
material for the boats on other foolishness.

--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

Paul Burke · Mar 17, 2005

You don't even have to go to sea to catch crabs

hello sailor.

John Woodgate · Mar 17, 2005

I read in sci.electronics.design that Ken Smith
<kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote (in <d1c62i$6db$1@blue.rahul.net&gt

about 'OT - Welcome to Doomsday', on Thu, 17 Mar 2005:

Sheep
tend to pull up grass etc roots and all.

I think it's goats that do that (browsing rather than grazing). You
aren't browsing the web unless you pull up the root folder. (;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

John Woodgate · Mar 17, 2005

I read in sci.electronics.design that Ken Smith
<kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote (in <d1c69e$6db$2@blue.rahul.net&gt

about 'OT - Welcome to Doomsday', on Thu, 17 Mar 2005:

BTW: God is just a 14 year old boy playing simuniverse and we are just
a
bunch of digital sprites within the computer. It will be a major bummer
when his mom calls him for dinner.

No, this version of Simuniverse has Total Restore. He can switch off the
computer, and when he switches on again, we're exactly as deep in the
fertilizer as we were before. (;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

James Beck · Mar 17, 2005

In article <B9e_d.683$HL6.415@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>,
mullensdeletethis@ntlworld.com says...

Gary Richardson wrote:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17852

If you believe the creationists, then God created the earth with all the fossils in place and the carbon isotope balance the way
it is. Unfortunately there are some otherwise very intelligent people who believe that crap.

With those sort of medieval beliefs prevalent in the USA it is no wonder there are nonsensical policies in place.

How would you KNOW that "those sort of medieval beliefs prevalent in the

USA " ? I personally don't know a single person that believes that the
bible is a factual text. I know there are some, but painting us all as
religous zealots is a fallacy. I know it makes most of the Eurotrash
feel better about themselves, but it just ain't true.

Jim

Jim Thompson · Mar 17, 2005

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:49:57 GMT, James Beck
<jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote:

In article <B9e_d.683$HL6.415@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>,
mullensdeletethis@ntlworld.com says...
Gary Richardson wrote:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17852

If you believe the creationists, then God created the earth with all the fossils in place and the carbon isotope balance the way
it is. Unfortunately there are some otherwise very intelligent people who believe that crap.

With those sort of medieval beliefs prevalent in the USA it is no wonder there are nonsensical policies in place.

How would you KNOW that "those sort of medieval beliefs prevalent in the
USA " ? I personally don't know a single person that believes that the
bible is a factual text. I know there are some, but painting us all as
religous zealots is a fallacy. I know it makes most of the Eurotrash
feel better about themselves, but it just ain't true.

Jim

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René · Mar 17, 2005

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:04:14 +0000 (UTC), kensmith@green.rahul.net
(Ken Smith) wrote:

In article <B9e_d.683$HL6.415@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>,
richard mullens <mullensdeletethis@ntlworld.com> wrote:
[..]
If you believe the creationists, then God created the earth with all the
fossils in place and the carbon isotope balance the way
it is. Unfortunately there are some otherwise very intelligent people
who believe that crap.

I believe that God created everything 3.14159 seconds ago including our
memory of a past that extends beyond that point. :

BTW: God is just a 14 year old boy playing simuniverse and we are just a
bunch of digital sprites within the computer. It will be a major bummer
when his mom calls him for dinner.

--

Luckily the devine timescale is vastly different from ours. If however
time is measured in Microsoft seconds we are screwed though.

--
- René

John Larkin · Mar 17, 2005

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:23:58 -0500, Active8 <reply2group@ndbbm.net>
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:50:19 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:03:19 -0800, "Gary Richardson"
garyr@fidalgo.net> wrote:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17852

Only one part of this drivel makes sense:

"When I talk about this before a live audience I can see from the look
on the faces before me just how hard it is for a journalist to report
on such things with any credibility."

He got that part right.

The political aspect of the article is something I've not verified.
Are you saying that all that "evil" stuff he's accusing Bush of
doing is hogwash? I sure hope it not that bad.

I saw a number of things that ring true on the religious front.

You can always find nuts to get worked up about, be they radical
Christians or radical Communists. I know more of the latter. At least
the Christians tend to be polite, and seldom go about in crowds
smashing shop windows and throwing rocks at cops.

quote
"The world cannot be saved." It leads to "appalling ethics," she
reasons,

Reasons? More like fantasizes.

I know xtians that believes that way. Same goes for the crap they
shovel into their overweight faces. "All meat is good to eat..."
Never mind the passages on gluttony.

You hardly need to be a American fundamentalist Christian to be
overweight:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2005/03/15/international/i111602S01.DTL

John

Mark Jones · Mar 17, 2005

Everyone knows Lucifer was an Angel, yes, but it's a little-known fact that he
felled all the other angels with his rise. Ergo, only evil has wings - you
zealots have been following a false god!

FALSE GOD!

FALSE GOD!

FALSE GOD!

Mark Jones · Mar 17, 2005

richard mullens wrote:

Gary Richardson wrote:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17852

If you believe the creationists, then God created the earth with all the
fossils in place and the carbon isotope balance the way it is.
Unfortunately there are some otherwise very intelligent people who
believe that crap.

With those sort of medieval beliefs prevalent in the USA it is no wonder
there are nonsensical policies in place.

Amen.

John Larkin · Mar 17, 2005

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:04:46 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:49:57 GMT, James Beck
jim@reallykillersystems.com> wrote:

In article <B9e_d.683$HL6.415@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>,
mullensdeletethis@ntlworld.com says...
Gary Richardson wrote:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17852

If you believe the creationists, then God created the earth with all the fossils in place and the carbon isotope balance the way
it is. Unfortunately there are some otherwise very intelligent people who believe that crap.

With those sort of medieval beliefs prevalent in the USA it is no wonder there are nonsensical policies in place.

How would you KNOW that "those sort of medieval beliefs prevalent in the
USA " ? I personally don't know a single person that believes that the
bible is a factual text. I know there are some, but painting us all as
religous zealots is a fallacy. I know it makes most of the Eurotrash
feel better about themselves, but it just ain't true.

Jim

The EuroTrash/EuroPeons need SOMETHING to feel better about. Their
whole place is going to hell and we are the Jews of the 21st Century.

...Jim Thompson

Except that this time, we're better armed.

John

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