OT: Mother of the Chinese virologist ARRESTED...

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 11:11:54 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
I wonder why leftists are such apologists for the brutal Chinese
Communist Party dictatorship.

I guess they admire having all that power.

They like being abused?
 
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:51:55 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:26:05 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

I prefer to be an independent thinker, and look
at each issue without making that assumption.

Your permission, gracious though it is, does not move me.

Maybe if you are shipped off to a reeducation camp with the Uighurs you will be moved, but, then again, maybe not.
 
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:31:03 PM UTC-7, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2020-10-07, Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may
mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH.

So, no different to USA: eg. George Floyd.

--
Jasen.

Hardly, a totally false equivalency - the CHICOMs are murdering people by the millions.
 
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:46:09 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 2:26:05 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH. A million Uighurs have been arrested and sent off to \"reeducation\" camps (i.e. concentration camps). Her mother was arrested to send a clear message to Dr. Li-Meng Yan: STOP TALKING!

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

The only source for this story is Dr. Li-Meng Yan herself, and the main-stream media don\'t seem to have picked it up, presumably because they haven\'t been able to get independent confirmation.

The Chinese Communist Party may lie from time to time, but they aren\'t the only people who reports need to be treated with scepticism - Dr. Li-Meng Yan\'s own claims seem implausible to many.

Flyguy does seem to like to keep his life simple by trusting everybody except the Chinese Communist Party, but this does seem to include people like Donald Trump, who don\'t look entirely reliable to observers with longer memories and more insight.

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SL0W MAN, Sydney

Hey SL0W MAN, maybe, just maybe, the CHICOMs will produce Dr. Li-Meng Yan\'s mother and have her confirm that she hasn\'t been arrested (it wouldn\'t be hard), but I wouldn\'t hold my breath. You are more than welcome to travel to China and prove Dr. Yan wrong, but I doubt that you will.
 
On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 8:11:54 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 20:25:59 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH. A million Uighurs have been arrested and sent off to \"reeducation\" camps (i.e. concentration camps). Her mother was arrested to send a clear message to Dr. Li-Meng Yan: STOP TALKING!

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

I wonder why leftists are such apologists for the brutal Chinese
Communist Party dictatorship.

I guess they admire having all that power.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

I assume that they have a secret admiration with how the CHICOMs rule with an iron fist.
 
The virologist knew her family might be terrorized by the Communist
Chinese government because of her story. Even an idiot knows why her
mother was arrested, regardless of the validity of her claims (that
will be tested by her peers). Why would she (allegedly) tell lies
knowing her family might be terrorized and/or killed?

Here we have a troll pretending like it\'s a virology expert...

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On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 3:16:48 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
Flyguy wrote:

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.
That\'s obvious to a scientist. That\'s why they kicked out Western
journalists, so they could more easily tell their big lies and kill
people who expose truth about the coronavirus.

The \'kicked out\' is more easily explained as \"we\'re getting bad press,
so let\'s suppress the press more\" thinking. It\'s a poor substitute for openness,
but it\'s what keeps the party image clean and tidy.

There\'s no \'truth about the coronavirus\' in the various theories that assume
it cannot have emerged from nature without laboratory manipulation.
The \"evidence\" for laboratory causation consists of loud angry sounds and
silly accusations.
 
On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 4:00:23 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:31:03 PM UTC-7, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2020-10-07, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may
mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH.

So, no different to USA: eg. George Floyd.

Hardly, a totally false equivalency - the CHICOMs are murdering people by the millions.

Really? There\'s no evidence of any actual murdering going on at the moment. Flyguy seems to think that claims of some demented Sinophobe or other are \"evidence\", but all that proves that he is a gullible twit.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 4:06:37 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 8:11:54 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 20:25:59 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

<snip>

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

I wonder why leftists are such apologists for the brutal Chinese
Communist Party dictatorship.

I guess they admire having all that power.

I assume that they have a secret admiration with how the CHICOMs rule with an iron fist.

John Larkin does guess-work, Flyguy makes assumptions. Neither of then has bothered to come up with any actual leftist apologists.

If you drag all your evidence out of your imagination, you can have a lively and satisfying discussion with yourself and even draw in fellow fantasists. It is a waste of bandwidth, but it keeps the wankers happy.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 10:16:02 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 4:00:23 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:31:03 PM UTC-7, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2020-10-07, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may
mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH.

So, no different to USA: eg. George Floyd.

Hardly, a totally false equivalency - the CHICOMs are murdering people by the millions.

Really? There\'s no evidence of any actual murdering going on at the moment. Flyguy seems to think that claims of some demented Sinophobe or other are \"evidence\", but all that proves that he is a gullible twit.

--
SL0W MAN, Sydney

Hey SL0W MAN, there is no dispute that Uighurs are being interned in what is euphemistically called \"reeducation\" camps. The CHICOMs do not have good motives for this and are torturing Uighurs in these camps. The camps are, effectively, death sentences for the Uighurs, which is tantamount to murder. But you, with your head in the sand as usual, don\'t question this.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53650246
 
On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 4:32:06 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 10:16:02 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 4:00:23 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:31:03 PM UTC-7, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2020-10-07, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may
mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH.

So, no different to USA: eg. George Floyd.

Hardly, a totally false equivalency - the CHICOMs are murdering people by the millions.

Really? There\'s no evidence of any actual murdering going on at the moment. Flyguy seems to think that claims of some demented Sinophobe or other are \"evidence\", but all that proves that he is a gullible twit.

Hey SL0W MAN, there is no dispute that Uighurs are being interned in what is euphemistically called \"reeducation\" camps. The CHICOMs do not have good motives for this and are torturing Uighurs in these camps.

Really? First it was murder and now it\'s torture. Flyguy would clearly find any kind of education torture.

>The camps are, effectively, death sentences for the Uighurs, which is tantamount to murder.

If they were. why would the Chinese bother to build camps? It\'s a lot quicker and cheaper to dig graves.

But you, with your head in the sand as usual, don\'t question this.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53650246

Precisely what got that unfortunate young man stuck in a cell isn\'t all that clear. He\'d clearly like us to think that it\'s just because he was a Uighur, and would be less forthcoming about the cannabis dealing, if the Chinese authorities were telling the truth.

You\'ve got your own head buried in a pile of political propaganda.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
Filthy troll lying about well-known practices of the Communist
Chinese, as if such obvious lies change anything. You have to
wonder, what is the motive for acting like an idiot on the Internet.
The only thing I can imagine is the big ego pretends to be a lawyer,
arguing anything no matter how ridiculous...

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On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 4:32:06 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 10:16:02 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 4:00:23 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:31:03 PM UTC-7, Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2020-10-07, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth abo
ut the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-C
hinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could
mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that e
xpose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment with
in a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there
was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you
fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is do
ing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest m
ay
mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH.

So, no different to USA: eg. George Floyd.

Hardly, a totally false equivalency - the CHICOMs are murdering peopl
e by the millions.

Really? There\'s no evidence of any actual murdering going on at the mom
ent. Flyguy seems to think that claims of some demented Sinophobe or other are \"evidence\", but all that proves that he is a gullible twit.

Hey SL0W MAN, there is no dispute that Uighurs are being interned in what
is euphemistically called \"reeducation\" camps. The CHICOMs do not have good motives for this and are torturing Uighurs in these camps.

Really? First it was murder and now it\'s torture. Flyguy would clearly find any kind of education torture.

The camps are, effectively, death sentences for the Uighurs, which is tant
amount to murder.

If they were. why would the Chinese bother to build camps? It\'s a lot quicker and cheaper to dig graves.

But you, with your head in the sand as usual, don\'t question this.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53650246

Precisely what got that unfortunate young man stuck in a cell isn\'t all that clear. He\'d clearly like us to think that it\'s just because he was a Uighur, and would be less forthcoming about the cannabis dealing, if the Chinese authorities were telling the truth.

You\'ve got your own head buried in a pile of political propaganda.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
Flyguy wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
The main stream media - who go in for fact-checking - haven\'t
picked up the story, but Fox News and other peddlers of right-wing
fantasies do seem to have latched onto the claim.

Almost looks like the claim has right-wing origins, latched onto by a
Chinese virologist.

Hey SL0W MAN, where is YOUR evidence that she WASN\'T? NON-EXISTENT,
that\'s what! Dr. Yan was on Hannity\'s show

Oh, no, Hannity too?
_________________

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/li-meng-yan-covid-19-lab/

*Funding Ties to the Rule of Law Society*

The report was primarily authored by Yan and three other researchers who
listed an affiliation with the Rule of Law Society on the cover page.
The society is a political organization — not a research institution —
that was founded by exiled Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui, who fled
China in 2014 in advance of corruption charges, and Steve Bannon, an
American businessman and political strategist who previously oversaw the
far-right publication Breitbart News, and was recently arrested in
connection to the “We Build The Wall” fraud scam.
_________________

<https://www.techtimes.com/articles/252590/20200916/fact-check-covid-19-whistleblower-li-meng-yan-releases-paper-with-other-scientists-suggesting-sophisticated-laboratory-modification.htm>

*Li-Meng Yan\'s Paper*

The paper was authored by Yan, who became famous overnight due to her
strong claims after fleeing China to come to the US.

Yan was accompanied by three researchers affiliated with the Rule of Law
of Society, which is not particularly known for working on infectious
diseases.

Moreover, it appears as though the Society was founded by a former POTUS
adviser that was recently charged by the Federal Bureau of Investigation
(FBI) for fraud, along with Guo Wengui, a Chinese businessman who fled
China back in 2014 due to bribery charges and more.
 
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Flyguy wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
The main stream media - who go in for fact-checking - haven\'t
picked up the story, but Fox News and other peddlers of right-wing
fantasies do seem to have latched onto the claim.

Almost looks like the claim has right-wing origins, latched onto by a
Chinese virologist.

Hey SL0W MAN, where is YOUR evidence that she WASN\'T? NON-EXISTENT,
that\'s what! Dr. Yan was on Hannity\'s show

Oh, no, Hannity too?
_________________

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/li-meng-yan-covid-19-lab/

*Funding Ties to the Rule of Law Society*

The report was primarily authored by Yan and three other researchers who
listed an affiliation with the Rule of Law Society on the cover page.
The society is a political organization ƒ \" not a research institution ƒ \"
that was founded by exiled Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui, who fled
China in 2014 in advance of corruption charges, and Steve Bannon, an
American businessman and political strategist who previously oversaw the
far-right publication Breitbart News, and was recently arrested in
connection to the ƒ oWe Build The Wallƒ fraud scam.
_________________

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/252590/20200916/fact-check-covid-19-whistleblower-li-meng-yan-releases-paper-with-other-scientists-suggesting-sophisticated-laboratory-modification.htm

*Li-Meng Yan\'s Paper*

The paper was authored by Yan, who became famous overnight due to her
strong claims after fleeing China to come to the US.

Yan was accompanied by three researchers affiliated with the Rule of Law
of Society, which is not particularly known for working on infectious
diseases.

Moreover, it appears as though the Society was founded by a former POTUS
adviser that was recently charged by the Federal Bureau of Investigation
(FBI) for fraud, along with Guo Wengui, a Chinese businessman who fled
China back in 2014 due to bribery charges and more.
 
On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 10:06:37 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 8:11:54 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

I wonder why leftists are such apologists for the brutal Chinese
Communist Party dictatorship.

I guess they admire having all that power.

I assume that they have a secret admiration with how the CHICOMs rule with an iron fist.

Those assumptions and guesses aren\'t good basis for thought.
You guys can still vote, but jury selection will boot you off for prejudice.
 
On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 22:06:30 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 8:11:54 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 20:25:59 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH. A million Uighurs have been arrested and sent off to \"reeducation\" camps (i.e. concentration camps). Her mother was arrested to send a clear message to Dr. Li-Meng Yan: STOP TALKING!

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

I wonder why leftists are such apologists for the brutal Chinese
Communist Party dictatorship.

I guess they admire having all that power.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

I assume that they have a secret admiration with how the CHICOMs rule with an iron fist.

Yes. Leftists inherently believe they understand everything hence
should control everything.

Mao had theories and created the greatest famine in world history. The
One Child thing was pretty awful too.

https://chineseposters.net/sites/default/files/images/e12-901.jpg

The Four Pests was another great concept.
 
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

Flyguy
soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

I assume that they have a secret admiration with how the CHICOMs rule
with an iron fist.

Yes. Leftists inherently believe they understand everything hence
should control everything.

\"If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving,
subsidize it.\"

Whenever I run into a greenie promoting climate change... \"Okay, but what do
you think about nuclear energy?\" They almost invariably say it\'s horrible,
making clear they are a nonscientist. They love to feign science, BUT
SERIOUSLY most know nothing about science. And in fact there have been
documentaries made about the subject, like by former greenies who have seen
the light. It\'s about control. That\'s the only thing it can be about.
Promoting so-called green energy while shunning nuclear energy is not about
science.

Control, and, some people want to see an end to the human race.







Mao had theories and created the greatest famine in world history. The
One Child thing was pretty awful too.

https://chineseposters.net/sites/default/files/images/e12-901.jpg

The Four Pests was another great concept.
 
On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 7:13:05 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 22:06:30 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 8:11:54 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 20:25:59 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH. A million Uighurs have been arrested and sent off to \"reeducation\" camps (i.e. concentration camps).. Her mother was arrested to send a clear message to Dr. Li-Meng Yan: STOP TALKING!

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

I wonder why leftists are such apologists for the brutal Chinese
Communist Party dictatorship.

I guess they admire having all that power.

I assume that they have a secret admiration with how the CHICOMs rule with an iron fist.

Yes. Leftists inherently believe they understand everything hence
should control everything.

That sounds more like egomaniacs to me. John Larkin thinks he understands climate change.

Mao had theories and created the greatest famine in world history. The
One Child thing was pretty awful too.

https://chineseposters.net/sites/default/files/images/e12-901.jpg

The Four Pests was another great concept.

Mao was an egomaniac in change of system that believed in the leading role of the party.

At least one leftist has seen that this can lead to problems.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/801264-if-you-took-the-most-ardent-revolutionary-vested-him-in

\"“If you took the most ardent revolutionary, vested him in absolute power, within a year he would be worse than the Tsar himself.”

This dates back to about 1871, so it isn\'t a new observation. John Larkin gets reminded about it from time to time, but he does seem to think that he understands everything.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 10:56:17 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

Filthy troll lying about well-known practices of the Communist
Chinese, as if such obvious lies change anything. You have to
wonder, what is the motive for acting like an idiot on the Internet.

Truly, I do sometimes wonder. So, John Doe, as a man with first-hand knowledge of
acting like an idiot, what is your motive?
 
On 2020-10-09 12:26, whit3rd wrote:
On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 10:56:17 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

Filthy troll lying about well-known practices of the Communist
Chinese, as if such obvious lies change anything. You have to
wonder, what is the motive for acting like an idiot on the Internet.

Truly, I do sometimes wonder. So, John Doe, as a man with first-hand knowledge of
acting like an idiot, what is your motive?

Don\'t you have anything better to do than to cite and argue
with idiots?

Jeroen Belleman
 
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:51:01 AM UTC+11, Ricketty C wrote:
On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 7:09:22 AM UTC-4, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
On 2020-10-09 12:26, whit3rd wrote:
On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 10:56:17 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

Filthy troll lying about well-known practices of the Communist
Chinese, as if such obvious lies change anything. You have to
wonder, what is the motive for acting like an idiot on the Internet.

Truly, I do sometimes wonder. So, John Doe, as a man with first-hand knowledge of
acting like an idiot, what is your motive?


Don\'t you have anything better to do than to cite and argue
with idiots?

Jeroen Belleman
The trouble with asking such questions is that typically they should be asked of yourself.

I would love to talk politics here, but very few of the political posts here have anything useful to read and even less worth responding to. But once in a while I do learn something. Just yesterday I learned that Joe Biden appears to be a criminal. That\'s one I had not heard before. ;)

It\'s actually a re-run of the issue that was used to start impeachment proceedings against Trump. He was caught trying to pressure the Ukranian president into announcing this investigation (or something very like it). Presumably someone in Trump\'s election team has found somebody lower in the Ukranian pecking order who was easier to influence.

<snip>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Rick C.

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