OT: Mother of the Chinese virologist ARRESTED...

[Flyguy]

The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html
This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

 

[whit3rd]

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

> This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 1:03:28 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html
This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

The Daily Mail is famous for publicising right-wing conspiracy theories. Cursitor Doom is another of our resident trolls who refers to it a lot.

The only evidence we\'ve got that Dr. Li-Meng Yan\'s mother has been arrested is the word of Dr. Li-Meng Yan.

The main stream media - who go in for fact-checking - haven\'t picked up the story, but Fox News and other peddlers of right-wing fantasies do seem to have latched onto the claim.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH. A million Uighurs have been arrested and sent off to \"reeducation\" camps (i.e. concentration camps). Her mother was arrested to send a clear message to Dr. Li-Meng Yan: STOP TALKING!

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

 

[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH. A million Uighurs have been arrested and sent off to \"reeducation\" camps (i.e. concentration camps). Her mother was arrested to send a clear message to Dr. Li-Meng Yan: STOP TALKING!

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

 

[Flyguy]

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:20:09 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 1:03:28 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html
This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

The Daily Mail is famous for publicising right-wing conspiracy theories. Cursitor Doom is another of our resident trolls who refers to it a lot.

The only evidence we\'ve got that Dr. Li-Meng Yan\'s mother has been arrested is the word of Dr. Li-Meng Yan.

The main stream media - who go in for fact-checking - haven\'t picked up the story, but Fox News and other peddlers of right-wing fantasies do seem to have latched onto the claim.

--
SL0W MAN, Sydney

Hey SL0W MAN, where is YOUR evidence that she WASN\'T? NON-EXISTENT, that\'s what! Dr. Yan was on Hannity\'s show asserting this fact in person, you dolt.

 

[whit3rd]

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:26:05 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:

> BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

I prefer to be an independent thinker, and look
at each issue without making that assumption.

Your permission, gracious though it is, does not move me.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2020-10-07, Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may
mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH.

So, no different to USA: eg. George Floyd.

--
Jasen.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 2:26:05 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH. A million Uighurs have been arrested and sent off to \"reeducation\" camps (i.e. concentration camps). Her mother was arrested to send a clear message to Dr. Li-Meng Yan: STOP TALKING!

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

The only source for this story is Dr. Li-Meng Yan herself, and the main-stream media don\'t seem to have picked it up, presumably because they haven\'t been able to get independent confirmation.

The Chinese Communist Party may lie from time to time, but they aren\'t the only people who reports need to be treated with scepticism - Dr. Li-Meng Yan\'s own claims seem implausible to many.

Flyguy does seem to like to keep his life simple by trusting everybody except the Chinese Communist Party, but this does seem to include people like Donald Trump, who don\'t look entirely reliable to observers with longer memories and more insight.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Doe]

Regular cannibal left troll...

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On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 1:03:28 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html
This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

The Daily Mail is famous for publicising right-wing conspiracy theories. Cursitor Doom is another of our resident trolls who refers to it a lot.

The only evidence we\'ve got that Dr. Li-Meng Yan\'s mother has been arrested is the word of Dr. Li-Meng Yan.

The main stream media - who go in for fact-checking - haven\'t picked up the story, but Fox News and other peddlers of right-wing fantasies do seem to have latched onto the claim.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Doe]

Filthy regular cannibal left troll...

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On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 2:26:05 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the
Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-
virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean v
ery little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose t
heir lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a fa
ulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was an
y such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight
for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the
lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may mean
anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH. A million Uighurs have been arrested and sent off to \"reeducation\" camps (i.e. concentration camps). Her mother was arrested to send a clear message to Dr. Li-Meng Yan: STOP TALKING!

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

The only source for this story is Dr. Li-Meng Yan herself, and the main-stream media don\'t seem to have picked it up, presumably because they haven\'t been able to get independent confirmation.

The Chinese Communist Party may lie from time to time, but they aren\'t the only people who reports need to be treated with scepticism - Dr. Li-Meng Yan\'s own claims seem implausible to many.

Flyguy does seem to like to keep his life simple by trusting everybody except the Chinese Communist Party, but this does seem to include people like Donald Trump, who don\'t look entirely reliable to observers with longer memories and more insight.

--
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[John Doe]

fArm & Hammer Litter Clump & Seal

 

[John Doe]

Flyguy wrote:

whit3rd wrote:
Flyguy wrote:

The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about
the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chin
ese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could
mean very little)

The poster is completely full of shit.

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that
expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists
rebut the work of opponents.

You are talking to a chronic liar about lying. It\'s pointless.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest
may mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH. A million
Uighurs have been arrested and sent off to \"reeducation\" camps
(i.e. concentration camps). Her mother was arrested to send a
clear message to Dr. Li-Meng Yan: STOP TALKING!

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

That\'s obvious to a scientist. That\'s why they kicked out Western
journalists, so they could more easily tell their big lies and kill
people who expose truth about the coronavirus. I don\'t know if she is
right about the virus, but you know she didn\'t lie just to get her
family terrorized. Certainly she knew it was a possibility. Like you
say, verifying or refuting her claims is what peer-review is for.
Everybody knows that.

The idea her mother was arrested having nothing to do with trying to
terrorize her is obviously a filthy lie from a non-scientist.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 9:01:34 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

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On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 1:03:28 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html
This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

The Daily Mail is famous for publicising right-wing conspiracy theories.. Cursitor Doom is another of our resident trolls who refers to it a lot.

The only evidence we\'ve got that Dr. Li-Meng Yan\'s mother has been arrested is the word of Dr. Li-Meng Yan.

The main stream media - who go in for fact-checking - haven\'t picked up the story, but Fox News and other peddlers of right-wing fantasies do seem to have latched onto the claim.

Regular cannibal left troll...

Apparently the top-posting troll is just as gullible as Flyguy.

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[John Doe]

Sorry. Voice-activated macro gone wild. I scrambled to stop it, to no
avail.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 9:02:29 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

Filthy regular cannibal left troll...
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On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 2:26:05 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the
Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-
virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean v
ery little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose t
heir lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a fa
ulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was an
y such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight
for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the
lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may mean
anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH. A million Uighurs have been arrested and sent off to \"reeducation\" camps (i.e. concentration camps).. Her mother was arrested to send a clear message to Dr. Li-Meng Yan: STOP TALKING!

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

The only source for this story is Dr. Li-Meng Yan herself, and the main-stream media don\'t seem to have picked it up, presumably because they haven\'t been able to get independent confirmation.

The Chinese Communist Party may lie from time to time, but they aren\'t the only people who reports need to be treated with scepticism - Dr. Li-Meng Yan\'s own claims seem implausible to many.

Flyguy does seem to like to keep his life simple by trusting everybody except the Chinese Communist Party, but this does seem to include people like Donald Trump, who don\'t look entirely reliable to observers with longer memories and more insight.

Filthy regular cannibal left troll...

The top-posting troll gives us the benefit of his usual insight. I suppose adding \"filthy\" to the rest of the fantasy strikes him as some kind of helpful contribution.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:03:28 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:

The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html
This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

You do understand The Epoch Times is a media propaganda outlet for the Falun Gong? Yes of course you do. Between that and the Moonie Washington Times makes one wonder what you\'re up to.

 

[server]

On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 20:25:59 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
<soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH. A million Uighurs have been arrested and sent off to \"reeducation\" camps (i.e. concentration camps). Her mother was arrested to send a clear message to Dr. Li-Meng Yan: STOP TALKING!

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

I wonder why leftists are such apologists for the brutal Chinese
Communist Party dictatorship.

I guess they admire having all that power.



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[Ed Lee]

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 8:11:54 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 20:25:59 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:04:48 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
The CHICOM punished Dr. Li-Meng Yan, who exposed the truth about the Wuhan virus, by ARRESTING her mother!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8809809/Coronavirus-Chinese-virologist-said-COVID-19-lab-reveals-mothers-arrest.html

Yeah, maybe (but \'arrest\' is not conviction or punishment, could mean very little)

This is how communists work - they lie and punish those that expose their lies. Normal societies would let other scientists rebut the work of opponents.

Er... no, it\'s how a lot of governments operate; punishment within a faulty legal system or outside the
normal channels is ... regrettable, but it happened before there was any such thing as Communism,
and is modern reality in places not touched by Communism. If you fight for free speech, don\'t
assume Communism names all your enemies.

Also, don\'t assume that a dispute means the Communist side is doing the lying. There were
liers before Communism, too.

You\'re not talking the US here - this is the CHICOMs. An arrest may mean anything from temporary imprisonment to DEATH. A million Uighurs have been arrested and sent off to \"reeducation\" camps (i.e. concentration camps). Her mother was arrested to send a clear message to Dr. Li-Meng Yan: STOP TALKING!

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.

I wonder why leftists are such apologists for the brutal Chinese
Communist Party dictatorship.

I guess they admire having all that power.

It\'s money, more than power. CCP helps finance many international gangs including Australian and U.S. Communists.

 

[whit3rd]

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 3:16:48 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

Flyguy wrote:

BTW, you can pretty much assume that the CHICOMs are lying.
That\'s obvious to a scientist. That\'s why they kicked out Western
journalists, so they could more easily tell their big lies and kill
people who expose truth about the coronavirus.

The \'kicked out\' is more easily explained as \"we\'re getting bad press,
so let\'s suppress the press more\" thinking. It\'s a poor substitute for openness,
but it\'s what keeps the party image clean and tidy.

There\'s no \'truth about the coronavirus\' in the various theories that assume
it cannot have emerged from nature without laboratory manipulation.
The \"evidence\" for laboratory causation consists of loud angry sounds and
silly accusations.