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Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
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On Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:21:28 PM UTC-4, Robert Baer wrote:
> Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
So what.
> Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
So what.
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On Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:49:27 PM UTC-4, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
Ummm....
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/494920/Ebola-Black-market-monkey-meat-could-see-virus-hit-UK
http://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2014/07/31/ebola-virus-new-jersey/13436641/
This one almost made it back:
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/man-who-died-ebola-nigeria-was-american-citizen-wife-n167546
And ebola is just the most publicized, South America is teeming with hemorrhagic virus too:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/spb/mnpages/dispages/vhf.htm
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:21:28 -0700, the renowned Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
Relax. I'm sure it's not the first sample of live Ebola to arrive in
the U.S. The military probably has barrels of the stuff.
I wouldn't want to be the pilot of that little jet spending hours and
hours with virulent hemorrhagic fever patients a thin layer of plastic
away.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Ummm....
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/494920/Ebola-Black-market-monkey-meat-could-see-virus-hit-UK
http://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2014/07/31/ebola-virus-new-jersey/13436641/
This one almost made it back:
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/man-who-died-ebola-nigeria-was-american-citizen-wife-n167546
And ebola is just the most publicized, South America is teeming with hemorrhagic virus too:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/spb/mnpages/dispages/vhf.htm
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On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:13:21 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
They have saved their lives, we have expensive therapies not available in Africa. They're both improving and will be fully recovered soon.
This virus has been studied intensively for the past 40 years at the top infectious disease research centers...
< snip > ignoramus
Maybe they can save their lives.
They have saved their lives, we have expensive therapies not available in Africa. They're both improving and will be fully recovered soon.
Maybe they can learn something.
This virus has been studied intensively for the past 40 years at the top infectious disease research centers...
< snip > ignoramus
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On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:44:07 PM UTC-4, k...@attt.bizz wrote:
LOL- moronic idiot from hell advertises his ignorance to the world once again. The hemorrhaging /is/ an immune response...
There is nothing that can't be done elsewhere. Basically, they just
try to keep the patient alive long enough for their immune system to
take over.
LOL- moronic idiot from hell advertises his ignorance to the world once again. The hemorrhaging /is/ an immune response...
L
Lasse Langwadt Christense
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Den sřndag den 3. august 2014 21.24.39 UTC+2 skrev Joe Gwinn:
doesn't seem like the kind of disease that would spread in a developed country
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/21/ebola-fruit-bats.html
as long as the ones getting it is mostly people who can't pay for anything
why would anyone bother?
-Lasse
In article <80tst9trr9qegd1g6jmsgkl7g2laricfqt@4ax.com>,
krw@attt.bizz> wrote:
[snip]
There will likely be a vaccine [for Ebola] in a few years.
Perhaps. There is talk of one now.
The real holdup in the US is the need to prove safety in huge carefully
crafted multi-year trials.
If Ebola manages to get loose in one of the major industrial powers,
doesn't seem like the kind of disease that would spread in a developed country
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/21/ebola-fruit-bats.html
eventually someone will notice that with 50% to 90% mortality, maybe
it's OK to experiment on the victims. After all, what exactly do they
have to lose?
as long as the ones getting it is mostly people who can't pay for anything
why would anyone bother?
-Lasse
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:21:28 -0700, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
>Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
s/to be/were/
It's a done deal. The first arrived yesterday AM.
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
>Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
s/to be/were/
It's a done deal. The first arrived yesterday AM.
S
Spehro Pefhany
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:21:28 -0700, the renowned Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
>Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
Relax. I'm sure it's not the first sample of live Ebola to arrive in
the U.S. The military probably has barrels of the stuff.
I wouldn't want to be the pilot of that little jet spending hours and
hours with virulent hemorrhagic fever patients a thin layer of plastic
away.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
>Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
Relax. I'm sure it's not the first sample of live Ebola to arrive in
the U.S. The military probably has barrels of the stuff.
I wouldn't want to be the pilot of that little jet spending hours and
hours with virulent hemorrhagic fever patients a thin layer of plastic
away.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
J
John Larkin
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:21:28 -0700, Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
>Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
Maybe they can save their lives.
Maybe they can learn something.
The chances of this spreading from those two people is nil.
Ebola could be the masssive worldwide viral infection that I've always feared, a
mega-influenza. It could devastate big cities in Africa and Asia, in which case
it would soon show up all over the world. It would be unlikely to spread much in
developed countries.
There will likely be a vaccine in a few years.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
Precision electronic instrumentation
>Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
Maybe they can save their lives.
Maybe they can learn something.
The chances of this spreading from those two people is nil.
Ebola could be the masssive worldwide viral infection that I've always feared, a
mega-influenza. It could devastate big cities in Africa and Asia, in which case
it would soon show up all over the world. It would be unlikely to spread much in
developed countries.
There will likely be a vaccine in a few years.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
Precision electronic instrumentation
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:13:21 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
There is nothing that can't be done elsewhere. Basically, they just
try to keep the patient alive long enough for their immune system to
take over.
>Maybe they can learn something.
That's the *only* reason they'd be brought here. They've never
studied Ebola in a living person. Wanna bet there are some
bio-warfare types in the tent?
>The chances of this spreading from those two people is nil.
The chances of spreading *TO* those two people is nil. ...but it
happened.
Not likely, unless it goes airborne (as has been suspected for this
strain).
>There will likely be a vaccine in a few years.
Perhaps. There is talk of one now.
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:21:28 -0700, Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
Maybe they can save their lives.
There is nothing that can't be done elsewhere. Basically, they just
try to keep the patient alive long enough for their immune system to
take over.
>Maybe they can learn something.
That's the *only* reason they'd be brought here. They've never
studied Ebola in a living person. Wanna bet there are some
bio-warfare types in the tent?
>The chances of this spreading from those two people is nil.
The chances of spreading *TO* those two people is nil. ...but it
happened.
Ebola could be the masssive worldwide viral infection that I've always feared, a
mega-influenza. It could devastate big cities in Africa and Asia, in which case
it would soon show up all over the world. It would be unlikely to spread much in
developed countries.
Not likely, unless it goes airborne (as has been suspected for this
strain).
>There will likely be a vaccine in a few years.
Perhaps. There is talk of one now.
M
Maynard A. Philbrook Jr.
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In article <bktDv.196292$844.33880@fx14.iad>, robertbaer@localnet.com
says...
OK, sounds good to me. Looks like a lot of real estate
soon available!
Jamie
says...
Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
OK, sounds good to me. Looks like a lot of real estate
soon available!
Jamie
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>"OT: Gov wants to kill us."
OK. that is all.
OK. that is all.
S
Spehro Pefhany
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 09:31:20 -0700 (PDT), the renowned
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Why do you think FEMA has all those plastic coffins?
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
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Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:21:28 PM UTC-4, Robert Baer wrote:
Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
So what.
Why do you think FEMA has all those plastic coffins?
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
M
Martin Riddle
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:32:11 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
Shhhhh, he's not supposed to know.
Cheers
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 09:31:20 -0700 (PDT), the renowned
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, August 3, 2014 12:21:28 PM UTC-4, Robert Baer wrote:
Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
So what.
Why do you think FEMA has all those plastic coffins?
Shhhhh, he's not supposed to know.
Cheers
J
Joe Gwinn
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In article <80tst9trr9qegd1g6jmsgkl7g2laricfqt@4ax.com>,
<krw@attt.bizz> wrote:
[snip]
The real holdup in the US is the need to prove safety in huge carefully
crafted multi-year trials.
If Ebola manages to get loose in one of the major industrial powers,
eventually someone will notice that with 50% to 90% mortality, maybe
it's OK to experiment on the victims. After all, what exactly do they
have to lose?
Joe Gwinn
<krw@attt.bizz> wrote:
[snip]
There will likely be a vaccine [for Ebola] in a few years.
Perhaps. There is talk of one now.
The real holdup in the US is the need to prove safety in huge carefully
crafted multi-year trials.
If Ebola manages to get loose in one of the major industrial powers,
eventually someone will notice that with 50% to 90% mortality, maybe
it's OK to experiment on the victims. After all, what exactly do they
have to lose?
Joe Gwinn
J
Joe Gwinn
Guest
In article <0548bea6-c65c-4edd-bdad-254593383cf1@googlegroups.com>,
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:
Fruit bats are one suspected carrier. There are other suspects.
Nobody really knows. Perhaps all the vectors live in tropical areas.
That was the other part of my point about it getting loose in "one of
the major industrial powers" - they do have the money and the
scientific establishment, and will suddenly have the reason.
Joe Gwinn
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:
Den sřndag den 3. august 2014 21.24.39 UTC+2 skrev Joe Gwinn:
In article <80tst9trr9qegd1g6jmsgkl7g2laricfqt@4ax.com>,
krw@attt.bizz> wrote:
[snip]
There will likely be a vaccine [for Ebola] in a few years.
Perhaps. There is talk of one now.
The real holdup in the US is the need to prove safety in huge carefully
crafted multi-year trials.
If Ebola manages to get loose in one of the major industrial powers,
doesn't seem like the kind of disease that would spread in a developed country
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/21/ebola-fruit-bats.html
Fruit bats are one suspected carrier. There are other suspects.
Nobody really knows. Perhaps all the vectors live in tropical areas.
eventually someone will notice that with 50% to 90% mortality, maybe
it's OK to experiment on the victims. After all, what exactly do they
have to lose?
as long as the ones getting it is mostly people who can't pay for anything
why would anyone bother?
That was the other part of my point about it getting loose in "one of
the major industrial powers" - they do have the money and the
scientific establishment, and will suddenly have the reason.
Joe Gwinn
A
amdx
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On 8/3/2014 11:21 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
I hope it's before we us up the SS lockbox.
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Bill Sloman
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On Monday, 4 August 2014 10:56:35 UTC+10, Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. wrote:
A great deal better than you or krw can manage, but you don't know enough to realise this. It provides us some amusement from time to time, but not enough to make either of you anything like a net benefit to the group. As clowns you can manage the red nose and the falling over a lot, but comic timing eludes you.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
In article <9jktt9tdjv0fe7korsoo9u4nugseu7tmqp@4ax.com>, krw@attt.bizz
says...
LOL- moronic idiot from hell advertises his ignorance to the world once again. The hemorrhaging /is/ an immune response...
Like Slowman, you insist on demonstrating your illiteracy. It would
be amazing, if it weren't you.
Go easy on him, he's doing the best he can!
A great deal better than you or krw can manage, but you don't know enough to realise this. It provides us some amusement from time to time, but not enough to make either of you anything like a net benefit to the group. As clowns you can manage the red nose and the falling over a lot, but comic timing eludes you.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
J
John Fields
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:13:21 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
---
So, not only do you have trouble with the infinite, you also have
trouble with the infinitesimal.
John Fields
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:21:28 -0700, Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
Maybe they can save their lives.
Maybe they can learn something.
The chances of this spreading from those two people is nil.
---
So, not only do you have trouble with the infinite, you also have
trouble with the infinitesimal.
John Fields
J
John Larkin
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 17:12:39 -0500, John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com>
wrote:
How's that music career coming along?
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John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
Precision electronic instrumentation
wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:13:21 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:21:28 -0700, Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:
Two Americans With Ebola to Be Flown Back to US.
Maybe they can save their lives.
Maybe they can learn something.
The chances of this spreading from those two people is nil.
---
So, not only do you have trouble with the infinite, you also have
trouble with the infinitesimal.
John Fields
How's that music career coming along?
--
John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
Precision electronic instrumentation