Only one EV charger at home?!...

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <ek3OM.59280$8XGa.54641@fx17.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
says...

Then it\'s not the \"nanny state\". It\'s people. Your fellow citizens
are responsible.

OK, how about government regulations on the new gas cans. They have to
be spill proof and self closing . Just bought a one gallon can to use
with my chainsaw. It comes with a device you have to hold with one hand
while screwing off the spout to fill it with. That part has been around
for years. Now the spout is designed with a spring in it tat you have
to somehow push on it so part of the spout springs back.
They do not have a decent vent to let air in as the gas goes out. Takes
much more time. Then there is some kind of flame arrestor in the fill
hole that causes filling problems.

Could go with the big one. Gun Control. Some states do not allow guns
with removable magazines to hold over 10 rounds. Almost no time frame
to change out one magazine for another full one.

 

[rbowman]

On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 18:21:13 -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:

OK, how about government regulations on the new gas cans. They have to
be spill proof and self closing . Just bought a one gallon can to use
with my chainsaw. It comes with a device you have to hold with one hand
while screwing off the spout to fill it with. That part has been around
for years. Now the spout is designed with a spring in it tat you have
to somehow push on it so part of the spout springs back.
They do not have a decent vent to let air in as the gas goes out. Takes
much more time. Then there is some kind of flame arrestor in the fill
hole that causes filling problems.

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/ez-pour-hi-flo-replacement-spout

This is only meant for repairing cans that have a vent, wink wink.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 18/09/2023 22:30, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-09-18, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
In article <_y0OM.70219$CVBc.58327@fx16.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
says...

For many things seems like we live in a \'nanny state\'.

Just bought a band saw. The manual had many more warnings than how to
install the blade.

I\'m quite confident the bandsaw manufacturer\'s lawyers advised them to
put so many warnings in.

Why do you assume the government mandated it?




I don\'t assume the government made them put all the warnings on it just
some of them. There is Even a warning from California that the nickel
in the blade is a hazard to health and causes cancer.

I look on it as the people on the juries and the court system is the
cause of it. For instance someone put up a ladder with one leg in a
frozen cow pile. Sun comes up and cow pile melts and ladder falls, case
sues and wins. Judge should have not even allowed that case.

I think all tools should have on the package \'to take a course in using
the tool or do not bother suing us when you do something stupid\'.

Then it\'s not the \"nanny state\". It\'s people. Your fellow citizens
are responsible.

The state should be responsible for NOT allowing maximum litigiousness
to prevail.

--
The New Left are the people they warned you about.

 

[Peeler]

On 18 Sep 2023 23:53:04 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/ez-pour-hi-flo-replacement-spout

This is only meant for repairing cans that have a vent, wink wink.

\"Wink wink\"? LOL How about hey dee ho!, you endlessly gossiping senile
hayseed from Montana?

--
Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero\'s senile
life:
\"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either.\"
MID: <k84ip9Fesb1U1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-09-18, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

In article <ek3OM.59280$8XGa.54641@fx17.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
says...

Then it\'s not the \"nanny state\". It\'s people. Your fellow citizens
are responsible.



OK, how about government regulations on the new gas cans.

You can blame manufacturers for not wanting to make two kinds of gas
cans depending on where they\'re going to be sold.

They have to
be spill proof and self closing . Just bought a one gallon can to use
with my chainsaw. It comes with a device you have to hold with one hand
while screwing off the spout to fill it with. That part has been around
for years. Now the spout is designed with a spring in it tat you have
to somehow push on it so part of the spout springs back.

Aren\'t you smart enough to wire it open? That\'s what my husband did.
Or get an aftermarket spout.

Yes, it\'s regrettable that someone tries to improve air quality
someplace and you are inconvenienced.

They do not have a decent vent to let air in as the gas goes out. Takes
much more time. Then there is some kind of flame arrestor in the fill
hole that causes filling problems.

Could go with the big one. Gun Control. Some states do not allow guns
with removable magazines to hold over 10 rounds. Almost no time frame
to change out one magazine for another full one.

Don\'t go to those states. Stay at home and yell at the kids to get
off your grass.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[Skid Marks]

Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article <op.2bfjb10vmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...

Why is America so fussy on standards?

Yet I\'m sure in a few states you don\'t even have an annual safety test.



For many things seems like we live in a \'nanny state\'.

Just bought a band saw. The manual had many more warnings than how to
install the blade.

I suspect more people are injured by the vaxxicide clot shots than by band saws.
Funny how there are no warnings on the clot shots.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 19/09/2023 11:34, Skid Marks wrote:

Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article <op.2bfjb10vmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...

Why is America so fussy on standards?

Yet I\'m sure in a few states you don\'t even have an annual safety test.



For many things seems like we live in a \'nanny state\'.

Just bought a band saw.  The manual had many more warnings than how to
install the blade.



I suspect more people are injured by the vaxxicide clot shots than by
band saws.
Funny how there are no warnings on the clot shots.

I suspect more people are injured by covid than by vaccination, but it
doesn\'t come with a health warning..


--
\"I guess a rattlesnake ain\'t risponsible fer bein\' a rattlesnake, but ah
puts mah heel on um jess the same if\'n I catches him around mah chillun\".

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <qFdOM.41902$aBOf.18913@fx48.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
says...

They have to
be spill proof and self closing . Just bought a one gallon can to use
with my chainsaw. It comes with a device you have to hold with one hand
while screwing off the spout to fill it with. That part has been around
for years. Now the spout is designed with a spring in it tat you have
to somehow push on it so part of the spout springs back.

Aren\'t you smart enough to wire it open? That\'s what my husband did.
Or get an aftermarket spout.

Yes, it\'s regrettable that someone tries to improve air quality
someplace and you are inconvenienced.

I am smarter than that. I modified the spout to work better and stay
open. No need to spend money on the after market parts.

I have spilled more gas with the new cans before I modified them than I
ever did with the old ones.

I should not have to do that. If it was not for the \' nanny state\' I
would not need this.

 

[Bob F]

On 9/19/2023 8:13 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article <qFdOM.41902$aBOf.18913@fx48.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
says...

They have to
be spill proof and self closing . Just bought a one gallon can to use
with my chainsaw. It comes with a device you have to hold with one hand
while screwing off the spout to fill it with. That part has been around
for years. Now the spout is designed with a spring in it tat you have
to somehow push on it so part of the spout springs back.

Aren\'t you smart enough to wire it open? That\'s what my husband did.
Or get an aftermarket spout.

Yes, it\'s regrettable that someone tries to improve air quality
someplace and you are inconvenienced.




I am smarter than that. I modified the spout to work better and stay
open. No need to spend money on the after market parts.

I have spilled more gas with the new cans before I modified them than I
ever did with the old ones.

I should not have to do that. If it was not for the \' nanny state\' I
would not need this.

I don\'t seem to have any such problems.

 

[rbowman]

On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 09:16:06 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-09-18, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
In article <ek3OM.59280$8XGa.54641@fx17.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
says...

Then it\'s not the \"nanny state\". It\'s people. Your fellow citizens
are responsible.



OK, how about government regulations on the new gas cans.

You can blame manufacturers for not wanting to make two kinds of gas
cans depending on where they\'re going to be sold.

They have to be spill proof and self closing . Just bought a one
gallon can to use with my chainsaw. It comes with a device you have to
hold with one hand while screwing off the spout to fill it with. That
part has been around for years. Now the spout is designed with a
spring in it tat you have to somehow push on it so part of the spout
springs back.

Aren\'t you smart enough to wire it open? That\'s what my husband did.
Or get an aftermarket spout.

Yes, it\'s regrettable that someone tries to improve air quality
someplace and you are inconvenienced.

It may have been more about child-proofing than air quality. Hosing down
the lawnmower while struggling to pour gas doesn\'t help. The gas can
manufacturers certainly came up with the worst possible design to
implement the regulations.

I haven\'t bought a new can recently but there is a new regulation about a
flame retarder that came about when some retard tried to pour gasoline on
a campfire. The attempts to circumvent Darwinian selection aren\'t going
to end well.

 

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <kmuphaFle2rU1@mid.individual.net>, bowman@montana.com
says...

It may have been more about child-proofing than air quality. Hosing down
the lawnmower while struggling to pour gas doesn\'t help. The gas can
manufacturers certainly came up with the worst possible design to
implement the regulations.

Thinking of mowers look at all the government safety regulations on the
walking and riding mowers.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 20/09/2023 02:24, Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article <kmuphaFle2rU1@mid.individual.net>, bowman@montana.com
says...

It may have been more about child-proofing than air quality. Hosing down
the lawnmower while struggling to pour gas doesn\'t help. The gas can
manufacturers certainly came up with the worst possible design to
implement the regulations.




Thinking of mowers look at all the government safety regulations on the
walking and riding mowers.

Strangely I hadn\'t noticed many here in the UK. Gas guzzling un
catalysed un fuel injected single cylinder mower with only the most
rudimentary safety features, like switching off if there is no weight on
the seat - trivial to bypass if you acre, which I don\'t


--
Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early
twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a
globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and,
on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

Richard Lindzen

 

[rbowman]

On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 21:24:00 -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article <kmuphaFle2rU1@mid.individual.net>, bowman@montana.com
says...

It may have been more about child-proofing than air quality. Hosing
down the lawnmower while struggling to pour gas doesn\'t help. The gas
can manufacturers certainly came up with the worst possible design to
implement the regulations.




Thinking of mowers look at all the government safety regulations on the
walking and riding mowers.

My push mower has a bar that has to be held down. All in all that isn\'t a
bad idea and it isn\'t all that inconvenient.

Some of the safety measures in the early days of OSHA were
counterproductive. Most people had a pretty good idea that you shouldn\'t
stick your head in a hydraulic press. Poorly designed safety guards meant
you had more pinch points than before that weren\'t so obvious.

I don\'t know the correct term but punch presses were equipped with \'possum
harnesses\' to make sure your hands weren\'t in the way. If your timing was
off it snatched your hands back none too gently.

I did know a machinist that was messing a few fingers. He had been working
on a die and knew the ram was slowly drifting down. He was so focused on
what he was doing he ignored the impending doom.

 

[Bob F]

On 9/19/2023 6:24 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article <kmuphaFle2rU1@mid.individual.net>, bowman@montana.com
says...

It may have been more about child-proofing than air quality. Hosing down
the lawnmower while struggling to pour gas doesn\'t help. The gas can
manufacturers certainly came up with the worst possible design to
implement the regulations.




Thinking of mowers look at all the government safety regulations on the
walking and riding mowers.

How many feet and other injuries have been avoided because of safety
regulations?

\"OSHA is Making a Difference

In roughly half a century, OSHA and our state partners, coupled
with the efforts of employers, safety and health professionals, unions
and advocates, have had a dramatic effect on workplace safety.
Worker deaths in America are down—on average, from about 38 worker
deaths a day in 1970 to 13 a day in 2020.
Worker injuries and illnesses are down—from 10.9 incidents per 100
workers in 1972 to 2.7 per 100 in 2020.
\"

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 20/09/2023 05:06, rbowman wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 21:24:00 -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article <kmuphaFle2rU1@mid.individual.net>, bowman@montana.com
says...

It may have been more about child-proofing than air quality. Hosing
down the lawnmower while struggling to pour gas doesn\'t help. The gas
can manufacturers certainly came up with the worst possible design to
implement the regulations.




Thinking of mowers look at all the government safety regulations on the
walking and riding mowers.

My push mower has a bar that has to be held down. All in all that isn\'t a
bad idea and it isn\'t all that inconvenient.

Some of the safety measures in the early days of OSHA were
counterproductive. Most people had a pretty good idea that you shouldn\'t
stick your head in a hydraulic press. Poorly designed safety guards meant
you had more pinch points than before that weren\'t so obvious.

I don\'t know the correct term but punch presses were equipped with \'possum
harnesses\' to make sure your hands weren\'t in the way. If your timing was
off it snatched your hands back none too gently.

I did know a machinist that was messing a few fingers. He had been working
on a die and knew the ram was slowly drifting down. He was so focused on
what he was doing he ignored the impending doom.

Elfin safety that gets to the point where people take the trouble to
circumvent or sabotage it routinely is simply pointless.


--
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else\'s pocket.

 

[Peeler]

On 19 Sep 2023 23:35:06 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

It may have been more about child-proofing than air quality. Hosing down
the lawnmower while struggling to pour gas doesn\'t help. The gas can
manufacturers certainly came up with the worst possible design to
implement the regulations.

I haven\'t bought a new can recently but there is a new regulation about a
flame retarder that came about when some retard tried to pour gasoline on
a campfire. The attempts to circumvent Darwinian selection aren\'t going
to end well.

I admit I couldn\'t resist the idea of pouring a load of gas in your big
mouth and igniting it...

--
More of the senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic senile blather:
\"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn\'t do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
\'We keep God\'s time in Virginia.\'

I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while.\"

MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1@dont-email.me>

 

[Peeler]

On 20 Sep 2023 04:06:32 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

My push mower has a bar that has to be held down. All in all that isn\'t a
bad idea and it isn\'t all that inconvenient.

Some of the safety measures in the early days of OSHA were
counterproductive. Most people had a pretty good idea that you shouldn\'t
stick your head in a hydraulic press. Poorly designed safety guards meant
you had more pinch points than before that weren\'t so obvious.

I don\'t know the correct term but punch presses were equipped with \'possum
harnesses\' to make sure your hands weren\'t in the way. If your timing was
off it snatched your hands back none too gently.

I did know a machinist that was messing a few fingers. He had been working
on a die and knew the ram was slowly drifting down. He was so focused on
what he was doing he ignored the impending doom.

Feeling better again ...after you could get rid of another load of your
verbose bullshit?

--
Yet more of the so very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"My family loaded me into a \'51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in \'52. I\'m alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going.\"
MID: <j2kuc1F3ejsU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-09-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 21:24:00 -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article <kmuphaFle2rU1@mid.individual.net>, bowman@montana.com
says...

It may have been more about child-proofing than air quality. Hosing
down the lawnmower while struggling to pour gas doesn\'t help. The gas
can manufacturers certainly came up with the worst possible design to
implement the regulations.




Thinking of mowers look at all the government safety regulations on the
walking and riding mowers.

My push mower has a bar that has to be held down. All in all that isn\'t a
bad idea and it isn\'t all that inconvenient.

Yep. A velcro strap took care of that one.

I can\'t recall what my husband did to defeat \"stop mowing while
the lawn tractor is backing up\". Maybe a jumper; maybe he had
to solder some wires together.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[Max Demian]

On 20/09/2023 02:24, Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article <kmuphaFle2rU1@mid.individual.net>, bowman@montana.com
says...

It may have been more about child-proofing than air quality. Hosing down
the lawnmower while struggling to pour gas doesn\'t help. The gas can
manufacturers certainly came up with the worst possible design to
implement the regulations.

Thinking of mowers look at all the government safety regulations on the
walking and riding mowers.

Do they prevent people from running their children over leading to
amputation of leg or genitals? (Two cases I recall.)

--
Max Demian

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 20/09/2023 11:30, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-09-20, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 21:24:00 -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:

In article <kmuphaFle2rU1@mid.individual.net>, bowman@montana.com
says...

It may have been more about child-proofing than air quality. Hosing
down the lawnmower while struggling to pour gas doesn\'t help. The gas
can manufacturers certainly came up with the worst possible design to
implement the regulations.




Thinking of mowers look at all the government safety regulations on the
walking and riding mowers.

My push mower has a bar that has to be held down. All in all that isn\'t a
bad idea and it isn\'t all that inconvenient.

Yep. A velcro strap took care of that one.

I can\'t recall what my husband did to defeat \"stop mowing while
the lawn tractor is backing up\". Maybe a jumper; maybe he had
to solder some wires together.

Oh. On mine its a button you push. So he probably just wired it
permanently shorted


--
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels