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In much the same way many drivers here won\'t understand how to treat a
4-way stop.
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 00:28:14 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 16:32:06 +0100, Smolley <s@home.net> wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 14:52:54 +0100, Max Demian wrote:
On 07/08/2023 03:51, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 23:54:49 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 09:09:02 -0400, Paul wrote:
There aren\'t too many regulations on bicycles.
Maybe Renault could make bicycles ???
Peugeot did okay in the US for a while. For people of my generation
Renault is associated with the Dauphine, not a good pairing.
My second bicycle was a Peugeot, I didn\'t think it was the same
company. Why would a car company stoop to bicycles?
Why did Messerschmitt, the German aircraft company, \"stoop\" to making
bubble cars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_KR200 ?
(Oh yes, WW2.)
The same reason Heinkel and BMW made bubble cars.
And that reason would be?
Because they were not allowed to make aircraft.
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 02:50:49 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do the Americans not let you bring a Peugeot in?
Peugeot looked at the upcoming EPA and NHTSA regulations and decided the
market wasn\'t worth it. There was talk a year or two ago but they again
decided it wasn\'t worth it.
There is a loophole for cars less than 25 years old called \'Show and
Display\' but a run-of-the-mill Peugeot wouldn\'t be eligible.
It might be possible for a private citizen to bring a model up to the
standards and jump through all the hoops but it would be expensive and
painful.
It wasn\'t an effort to specifically keep French cars out but the sales in
the US were so dismal Peugeot, Renault, and Citroen didn\'t bother. Yugo
dropped out in \'92 even before Clinton bombed their plant. There are no
Dacias, but that is sort of a Renault. Some movie I watched recently,
maybe Midsomer Murders, had a Dacia.
Fiat came back with the 500 about 10 years ago. They\'re supposedly are
doing a EV 500. Personally, I briefly had a Spider back in the day. Never
again.
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 01:10:57 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 00:28:14 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 16:32:06 +0100, Smolley <s@home.net> wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 14:52:54 +0100, Max Demian wrote:
On 07/08/2023 03:51, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 23:54:49 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 09:09:02 -0400, Paul wrote:
There aren\'t too many regulations on bicycles.
Maybe Renault could make bicycles ???
Peugeot did okay in the US for a while. For people of my generation
Renault is associated with the Dauphine, not a good pairing.
My second bicycle was a Peugeot, I didn\'t think it was the same
company. Why would a car company stoop to bicycles?
Why did Messerschmitt, the German aircraft company, \"stoop\" to making
bubble cars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_KR200 ?
(Oh yes, WW2.)
The same reason Heinkel and BMW made bubble cars.
And that reason would be?
Because they were not allowed to make aircraft.
By whose order?
Why is America so fussy on standards?
Yet I\'m sure in a few states you don\'t even have an annual safety test.
By whose order?
Presumablt \"The Occupying Powers\" (USA, USSR, UK & France)
For many things seems like we live in a \'nanny state\'.
Just bought a band saw. The manual had many more warnings than how to
install the blade.
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 04:48:35 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 02:50:49 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why do the Americans not let you bring a Peugeot in?
Peugeot looked at the upcoming EPA and NHTSA regulations and decided the
market wasn\'t worth it. There was talk a year or two ago but they again
decided it wasn\'t worth it.
There is a loophole for cars less than 25 years old called \'Show and
Display\' but a run-of-the-mill Peugeot wouldn\'t be eligible.
It might be possible for a private citizen to bring a model up to the
standards and jump through all the hoops but it would be expensive and
painful.
It wasn\'t an effort to specifically keep French cars out but the sales in
the US were so dismal Peugeot, Renault, and Citroen didn\'t bother. Yugo
dropped out in \'92 even before Clinton bombed their plant. There are no
Dacias, but that is sort of a Renault. Some movie I watched recently,
maybe Midsomer Murders, had a Dacia.
Fiat came back with the 500 about 10 years ago. They\'re supposedly are
doing a EV 500. Personally, I briefly had a Spider back in the day. Never
again.
Why is America so fussy on standards?
Yet I\'m sure in a few states you don\'t even have an annual safety test.
Because they were not allowed to make aircraft.
By whose order?
By whose order?
Presumably by the occupying forces.
In article <op.2bfjb10vmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...
Why is America so fussy on standards?
Yet I\'m sure in a few states you don\'t even have an annual safety test.
For many things seems like we live in a \'nanny state\'.
Just bought a band saw. The manual had many more warnings than how to
install the blade.
The nanny state is California.
In article <op.2bfjb10vmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...
Why is America so fussy on standards?
Yet I\'m sure in a few states you don\'t even have an annual safety test.
For many things seems like we live in a \'nanny state\'.
Just bought a band saw. The manual had many more warnings than how to
install the blade.
Why so you assume it needs a mandate, rather than a clear direction thatOn 2023-09-17, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:
In article <op.2bfjb10vmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...
Why is America so fussy on standards?
Yet I\'m sure in a few states you don\'t even have an annual safety test.
For many things seems like we live in a \'nanny state\'.
Just bought a band saw. The manual had many more warnings than how to
install the blade.
I\'m quite confident the bandsaw manufacturer\'s lawyers advised them to
put so many warnings in.
Why do you assume the government mandated it?
For many things seems like we live in a \'nanny state\'.
Just bought a band saw. The manual had many more warnings than how to
install the blade.
I\'m quite confident the bandsaw manufacturer\'s lawyers advised them to
put so many warnings in.
Why do you assume the government mandated it?
In article <_y0OM.70219$CVBc.58327@fx16.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
says...
For many things seems like we live in a \'nanny state\'.
Just bought a band saw. The manual had many more warnings than how to
install the blade.
I\'m quite confident the bandsaw manufacturer\'s lawyers advised them to
put so many warnings in.
Why do you assume the government mandated it?
I don\'t assume the government made them put all the warnings on it just
some of them. There is Even a warning from California that the nickel
in the blade is a hazard to health and causes cancer.
I look on it as the people on the juries and the court system is the
cause of it. For instance someone put up a ladder with one leg in a
frozen cow pile. Sun comes up and cow pile melts and ladder falls, case
sues and wins. Judge should have not even allowed that case.
I think all tools should have on the package \'to take a course in using
the tool or do not bother suing us when you do something stupid\'.
In article <_y0OM.70219$CVBc.58327@fx16.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
says...
For many things seems like we live in a \'nanny state\'.
Just bought a band saw. The manual had many more warnings than how to
install the blade.
I\'m quite confident the bandsaw manufacturer\'s lawyers advised them to
put so many warnings in.
Why do you assume the government mandated it?
I don\'t assume the government made them put all the warnings on it just
some of them. There is Even a warning from California that the nickel
in the blade is a hazard to health and causes cancer.
I look on it as the people on the juries and the court system is the
cause of it. For instance someone put up a ladder with one leg in a
frozen cow pile. Sun comes up and cow pile melts and ladder falls, case
sues and wins. Judge should have not even allowed that case.
I think all tools should have on the package \'to take a course in using
the tool or do not bother suing us when you do something stupid\'.
In article <_y0OM.70219$CVBc.58327@fx16.iad>, hamilton@invalid.com
says...
For many things seems like we live in a \'nanny state\'.
Just bought a band saw. The manual had many more warnings than how to
install the blade.
I\'m quite confident the bandsaw manufacturer\'s lawyers advised them to
put so many warnings in.
Why do you assume the government mandated it?
I don\'t assume the government made them put all the warnings on it just
some of them. There is Even a warning from California that the nickel
in the blade is a hazard to health and causes cancer.