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On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:25:56 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 07:18:31 -0800,
"JosephKK"<quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:11:15 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:52:06 -0800,
"JosephKK"<quiettechblue@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:40:24 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:28:20 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid
wrote:

krw wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:38:08 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid
wrote:

Joel Koltner wrote:
"Vladimir Vassilevsky" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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So-called "double soup": dissolve two packs of dry noodle soup in the
amount of water intended for one pack (that's why it was called
"double"), add some potatoes and whatever else you may have, then boil
it until it will be a uniform kasha.
Wow; that is meager. I'm glad you made it with your health intact! How
long ago was that?

Did you make tea with a pair of razor blades?
No, I surely didn't. Please elaborate on how it's done?

When I lived in the dorms at university's (1990-1994), you were required
to buy a meal plan from the university's cafeterias -- they had various
plans available, from "borderline-anorexic jockey" to "linebacker."
These days many schools have switched some or all of their own
cafeterias over to the nationwide fast food franchises -- Subwauy, Pizza
Hut, etc. Kinda sad; to some degree it reflects the fact that tuition
and books are so incredibly expensive these days in the first place,
food is now comparatively quite cheap. (I also suspect that there's no
remaining major college today that doesn't have a Starbucks within ready
walking distance of campus. :) )

But they can't make you live and eat on campus, can they? I rarely
frequented the cantinas of our university. They were cheap but not much
cheaper than cooking your own meals and the food there was not exactly
gourmet quality.

Certainly can. A few weeks ago, one of the news reports here was that
Auburn was going to force every student to buy a meal plan, whether
they wanted it or not. Even those living off-campus.

IMHO it is an important aspect of off-campus living that one gets
exposed to a larger spread of people and not just academic types.

Apparently they're going to make that impossible, too. UVM required
Freshmen to live on-campus, even if they couldn't afford dorms and
could live at home. Alabama universities (Both 'bama and Auburn) are
also going that way, except not just for Freshmen.

Thirty-five years ago UIUC required Freshmen to live on campus, unless
they could live at home.


Very sad. And nobody does anything against that? I find it almost
discriminatory. I am not a fan of legal action but if those universities
receive even one dime in public funding I hope someone manages to get a
class together and challenge them.

Auburn and UofAlabama *are* the Alabama state universities (as are UVM
in Vermont and UIUC in Illinois). How is it discriminatory if
everyone is treated the same? Indeed that may be one of the reasons
(excuses) behind the stupidity. It's only "fair" if everyone suffers
together.

Well if they want to charge me like i live on campus, they better think well
about properly providing a cot and a roof to go with the three hots. Not
all students can so easily beat the cost of the meal plan, but those that
can, and need to, to stay in school are clearly being discriminated against.

The point is that you *would* live on campus. Of course you can beat
their prices, but that's not in their interest. The middle class are
far from being a protected class. Discrimination is perfectly legal.

I didn't back then and i couldn't now (way to much stuff plus a house). Of
course i always had to pay my own tuition/fees and buy my own books. Didn't
let that stop me either. But mandatory fees for students for services that
they cannot make reasonable use of is evil.

Of course they're evil. I had to pay an "intramural athletics
building" fee for a building I couldn't use and an "assembly hall fee"
for a building I couldn't afford to use (basketball and concert
venue). In fact, to show you how evil, they were voted on by the
student body. A no-vote was a *no* vote. But that's what leftists do
Sorry, a no-vote was a *yes* vote *for* the fees.

- evil. Nothing has changed.

There are such things as commuter
campuses, 70k students enrolled, 18k of them full time, more crowding in the
night classes.

Probably fewer night classes, too. Now they're doing on-line classes
(my son is caught up in this). Same tuition, more bodies per
instructor, zero infrastructure costs.
 
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:17:17 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
<zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:

"krw" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
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Probably fewer night classes, too. Now they're doing on-line classes
(my son is caught up in this). Same tuition, more bodies per
instructor, zero infrastructure costs.

Where I am, there's usually a *surcharge!* to take an on-line class. They get
away with it because there isn't exactly much choice in the matter, and I
suppose that people just view it as a "convenience" fee, just as they're
willing to pay more for beer at 7-11 than at a regular grocery store.

But it's definitely not a very student-friendly policy.

Granted, all those on-line class takers *are* allowed to visit the campus and
check out some books from the library or use the swimming pool or whatever,
but obvious they know that on average very few of the facilities that tuition
helps to pay for are actually going to be used by on-line learners.
Crap, in a reasonable state, and even some that aren't (Illinois) any
resident can use the library. They paid for it.
 
"krw" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
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Crap, in a reasonable state, and even some that aren't (Illinois) any
resident can use the library. They paid for it.
In Oregon you can use many (but not all) of the library's services: you don't
get to check out as many items (10 vs. 200 (!), not a big deal), don't get
interlibrary loans (ouch), technically you don't have access to journal
articles (but I can't imagine anyone's going to actually stop you), etc.
 
Joel Koltner wrote:
"krw" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
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Crap, in a reasonable state, and even some that aren't (Illinois) any
resident can use the library. They paid for it.

In Oregon you can use many (but not all) of the library's services: you
don't get to check out as many items (10 vs. 200 (!), not a big deal),
don't get interlibrary loans (ouch), technically you don't have access
to journal articles (but I can't imagine anyone's going to actually stop
you), etc.
Actually in Oregon it varies by county.

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com
 
Hi Tim,

"Tim Wescott" <tim@seemywebsite.now> wrote in message
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Actually in Oregon it varies by county.
Ah, OK, that was for Kerr library at Oregon State in Corvallis.

Interlibrary loan was important to me in that, while OSU had most of the good
engineering books, PSU occasionally had one I was interested in as well.

What is and isn't available to the public these days has gotten rather messy
now that universities get so much of their research funding from private
industry, it seems.

---Joel
 

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