If NASA scientists are right, the Thames will be freezing ov

Bill Sloman · Feb 8, 2012

On Feb 8, 5:19 am, mrstar...@gmail.com wrote:

That kind of lame insult doesn't help your case at all but suggests your position is fairly weak. You might as well accuse me of having a big nose. I've made no claims to the contrary.

Since you haven't quoted whichever insult it was that you found lame,
you've just demonstrated that - if you've bothered to read the rest of
this thread at all - you don't understand net etiquette, and haven't
the wit to work out why everybody else quotes the bits of the previous
post they were responding to.

This - and other evidence - make it fairly clear that whatever brain
you've got doesn't work very well. The size of your nose wouldn't be
expected to have any visible influence on your behaviour here (though
if it were really large - on the same sort of scale that your brain is
defective - you wouldn't be able to see - or maybe even reach - your
keyboard).

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Feb 8, 2012

Do I have to pick just one of your lame insults?! Leaving my nose out of it for a moment - imagine yourself roaming about the streets with no clothes on and an ignorant twit cries out, "Bill Sloman is naked!" The fact that the statement came from an ignorant twit does not make it any less true nor does it mean that Bill is fully clothed. That is why your insults are as irrelevant as my nose.
I suspect that unless I was completely enveloped in my nose, which is extremely unlikely, I would be able to reach the keyboard. Failing that, I could just pound the keyboard with my nose. I WOULD be able to reach it.
I noticed and I'm impressed. I think you deserve extra credit for trying so hard with your last attempt at insulting Mr Starbomb.

John Larkin · Feb 8, 2012

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:51:26 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 8, 12:58 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:13:37 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 12:01 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:40:00 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 7, 4:14 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 03:49:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:35 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 18:39:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 10:41 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:19:57 -0500, Phil Hobbs

pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:36:08 +0000, Raveninghorde
raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:35:40 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid
wrote:

amdx wrote:
Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years
Met = UK's National Weather Service

Some of the rivers are already in the process of freezing over:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/n/a/2012/02/03/intern...

[...]

Cold enough here that watefalls have frozen

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16892848

Ice skating in the fens in Eastern England and -22C reported in the
Netherlands.

Good grief. Cold kills.

Well, as the old saw says, it's an ill wind that blows nobody good.
We've had an Indian summer that lasted all the way through January. The
last couple of nights it's been about freezing, but we've hardly had a
frost all winter. On Groundhog Day, everyone was saying that they
didn't care if ol' Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow or not, because
another 6 weeks of _this_ winter would be no big hardship.

Folks elsewhere that aren't used to it are having a bad time, though.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

It's been balmy and sunny in San Francisco this week, and overall warm
and dry so far this winter. That's nice for walking and gardening, but
bad for skiing and for the water supply.

If you were to (somehow) plot mean human welfare against mean
planetary temperature, I'd guess we're currently located at an
up-slope, wild guess +5% per degree C.

It's unlikely that human welfare is a linear function of planetary
temperature. For one thing, weather-related human welfare tends to
depend on rainfall as well as temperature, and the occasional tornado
or cyclone can makes a few people decidedly unhappy and uncomfortable
more or less independent of temperature.

It's all going to be a little more complicated than you'd like to
think (if you liked to think about anything outside of electronics,
doesn't seem to happen).

You don't believe in derivatives?

Of course I believe in derivatives, but since I know a bit more than
you do, I get to believe in non-linear responses to a range of
environmental factors, and second order partial derivatives to
describe how "human welfare" - and other ill-defined scoring functions
- vary with - say - rainfall and temperature at the same time.

Word salad. Hand waving.

And the substantive content of "You don't believe in derivatives?" is?

You'd have to come up with some justification to demonstrate that that
wasn't hand-waving, and you really don't have the skills to do it.

You know so much about so many things that you are paralyzed.

Paralysed? Not really. Maybe too easily distracted. Nobody is offering
me money to pursue any particular goal,

I sure wouldn't.

Another vanity-driven failure of judgement.

Hey, you're repulsive. It's against company policy to hire more repulsive
people.

One was enough? The "high" in Highland refers to the personal odour of
the founder, rather than some elevation in the landscape?

For someone who pretends to be an intellectual, you are a real dork.

The focus of your life has always been how smart you are. Pity it
hasn't worked for you. I've seen the syndrome many times, and it's
really stupid.

--

John Larkin, President
Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation

John Larkin · Feb 8, 2012

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:39:57 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 8, 7:55 pm, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:51:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 12:58 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:13:37 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 12:01 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:40:00 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 7, 4:14 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 03:49:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:35 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 18:39:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 10:41 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:19:57 -0500, Phil Hobbs

pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:36:08 +0000, Raveninghorde
raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:35:40 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid
wrote:

amdx wrote:
Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years
Met = UK's National Weather Service

Some of the rivers are already in the process of freezing over:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/n/a/2012/02/03/intern...

[...]

Cold enough here that watefalls have frozen

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16892848

Ice skating in the fens in Eastern England and -22C reported in the
Netherlands.

Good grief. Cold kills.

Well, as the old saw says, it's an ill wind that blows nobody good.
We've had an Indian summer that lasted all the way through January. The
last couple of nights it's been about freezing, but we've hardly had a
frost all winter. On Groundhog Day, everyone was saying that they
didn't care if ol' Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow or not, because
another 6 weeks of _this_ winter would be no big hardship.

Folks elsewhere that aren't used to it are having a bad time, though.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

It's been balmy and sunny in San Francisco this week, and overall warm
and dry so far this winter. That's nice for walking and gardening, but
bad for skiing and for the water supply.

If you were to (somehow) plot mean human welfare against mean
planetary temperature, I'd guess we're currently located at an
up-slope, wild guess +5% per degree C.

It's unlikely that human welfare is a linear function of planetary
temperature. For one thing, weather-related human welfare tends to
depend on rainfall as well as temperature, and the occasional tornado
or cyclone can makes a few people decidedly unhappy and uncomfortable
more or less independent of temperature.

It's all going to be a little more complicated than you'd like to
think (if you liked to think about anything outside of electronics,
doesn't seem to happen).

You don't believe in derivatives?

Of course I believe in derivatives, but since I know a bit more than
you do, I get to believe in non-linear responses to a range of
environmental factors, and second order partial derivatives to
describe how "human welfare" - and other ill-defined scoring functions
- vary with - say - rainfall and temperature at the same time.

Word salad. Hand waving.

And the substantive content of "You don't believe in derivatives?" is?

You'd have to come up with some justification to demonstrate that that
wasn't hand-waving, and you really don't have the skills to do it.

You know so much about so many things that you are paralyzed.

Paralysed? Not really. Maybe too easily distracted. Nobody is offering
me money to pursue any particular goal,

I sure wouldn't.

Another vanity-driven failure of judgement.

Hey, you're repulsive. It's against company policy to hire more repulsive
people.

One was enough? The "high" in Highland refers to the personal odour of
the founder, rather than some elevation in the landscape?

For someone who pretends to be an intellectual, you are a real dork.

So calling me "repulsive" is behaving in some way other than being a
real dork?

You *are* repulsive; I bet most everyone agrees. All you do is tell
people how smart you are and how stupid they are. When have you said
anything friendly, funny, or genuinely helpful?

Your "odour" insult is childish and idiotic, since you know nothing
about my personal hygiene. Actually, the San Francisco climate is
conducive to bodily freshness.

You produced a decidedly dorkish response, and get upset

when I respond in kind.

The focus of your life has always been how smart you are. Pity it
hasn't worked for you. I've seen the syndrome many times, and it's
really stupid.

Actually, the focus of my life - in so far as I've thought about it,
which only happens in job interviews -

You only think about your life during interviews? A couple of minutes
per decade?

is being useful. Being smart is

something I was born with - it's handy, but not a virtue.

So, how is the "useful" thing coming along?

--

John Larkin, President
Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation

Bill Sloman · Feb 8, 2012

On Feb 8, 7:55 pm, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:51:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 12:58 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:13:37 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 12:01 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:40:00 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 7, 4:14 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 03:49:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:35 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 18:39:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 10:41 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:19:57 -0500, Phil Hobbs

pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:36:08 +0000, Raveninghorde
raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:35:40 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid
wrote:

amdx wrote:
Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years
Met = UK's National Weather Service

Some of the rivers are already in the process of freezing over:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/n/a/2012/02/03/intern...

[...]

Cold enough here that watefalls have frozen

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16892848

Ice skating in the fens in Eastern England and -22C reported in the
Netherlands.

Good grief. Cold kills.

Well, as the old saw says, it's an ill wind that blows nobody good.
We've had an Indian summer that lasted all the way through January. The
last couple of nights it's been about freezing, but we've hardly had a
frost all winter. On Groundhog Day, everyone was saying that they
didn't care if ol' Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow or not, because
another 6 weeks of _this_ winter would be no big hardship..

Folks elsewhere that aren't used to it are having a bad time, though.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

It's been balmy and sunny in San Francisco this week, and overall warm
and dry so far this winter. That's nice for walking and gardening, but
bad for skiing and for the water supply.

If you were to (somehow) plot mean human welfare against mean
planetary temperature, I'd guess we're currently located at an
up-slope, wild guess +5% per degree C.

It's unlikely that human welfare is a linear function of planetary
temperature. For one thing, weather-related human welfare tends to
depend on rainfall as well as temperature, and the occasional tornado
or cyclone can makes a few people decidedly unhappy and uncomfortable
more or less independent of temperature.

It's all going to be a little more complicated than you'd like to
think (if you liked to think about anything outside of electronics,
doesn't seem to happen).

You don't believe in derivatives?

Of course I believe in derivatives, but since I know a bit more than
you do, I get to believe in non-linear responses to a range of
environmental factors, and second order partial derivatives to
describe how "human welfare" - and other ill-defined scoring functions
- vary with - say - rainfall and temperature at the same time.

Word salad. Hand waving.

And the substantive content of "You don't believe in derivatives?" is?

You'd have to come up with some justification to demonstrate that that
wasn't hand-waving, and you really don't have the skills to do it.

You know so much about so many things that you are paralyzed.

Paralysed? Not really. Maybe too easily distracted. Nobody is offering
me money to pursue any particular goal,

I sure wouldn't.

Another vanity-driven failure of judgement.

Hey, you're repulsive. It's against company policy to hire more repulsive
people.

One was enough? The "high" in Highland refers to the personal odour of
the founder, rather than some elevation in the landscape?

For someone who pretends to be an intellectual, you are a real dork.

So calling me "repulsive" is behaving in some way other than being a
real dork? You produced a decidedly dorkish response, and get upset
when I respond in kind.

The focus of your life has always been how smart you are. Pity it
hasn't worked for you. I've seen the syndrome many times, and it's
really stupid.

Actually, the focus of my life - in so far as I've thought about it,
which only happens in job interviews - is being useful. Being smart is
something I was born with - it's handy, but not a virtue.

What you have seen is people reacting to you trying to appear smart -
a trick for which you don't seem to be all that well equipped.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Bill Sloman · Feb 8, 2012

On Feb 8, 1:12 pm, mrstar...@gmail.com wrote:

Do I have to pick just one of your lame insults?! Leaving my nose out of it for a moment - imagine yourself roaming about the streets with no clothes on and an ignorant twit cries out, "BillSlomanis naked!" The fact that the statement came from an ignorant twit does not make it any less true nor does it mean thatBillis fully clothed. That is why your insults are as irrelevant as my nose.
I suspect that unless I was completely enveloped in my nose, which is extremely unlikely, I would be able to reach the keyboard. Failing that, I could just pound the keyboard with my nose. I WOULD be able to reach it.
I noticed and I'm impressed. I think you deserve extra credit for trying so hard with your last attempt at insulting Mr Starbomb.

As usual, mrstar misses the point.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Feb 8, 2012

As usual, mrstar misses the point.
Now you're trying too hard. That would be the pot calling the kettle black, at the very least.

Michael A. Terrell · Feb 9, 2012

Phil Hobbs wrote:

Well, as the old saw says, it's an ill wind that blows nobody good.
We've had an Indian summer that lasted all the way through January. The
last couple of nights it's been about freezing, but we've hardly had a
frost all winter. On Groundhog Day, everyone was saying that they
didn't care if ol' Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow or not, because
another 6 weeks of _this_ winter would be no big hardship.

Folks elsewhere that aren't used to it are having a bad time, though.

I keep running into people complaining about the cold weather. In
Central Florida.

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

Michael A. Terrell · Feb 9, 2012

John Larkin wrote:

Good grief. Cold kills.

Only those who fail to adapt

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

Michael A. Terrell · Feb 9, 2012

Winston wrote:

The meanest humans I know are doing much better
than average.

Those damn 'uncivil engineers' are at it again? ;-)

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

Phil Hobbs · Feb 9, 2012

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

Winston wrote:

The meanest humans I know are doing much better
than average.

Those damn 'uncivil engineers' are at it again? ;-)

I also know some mechanical engineers who are remarkably lifelike, at
times.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

Jim Thompson · Feb 9, 2012

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:39:38 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

Winston wrote:

The meanest humans I know are doing much better
than average.

Those damn 'uncivil engineers' are at it again? ;-)

I also know some mechanical engineers who are remarkably lifelike, at
times.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Feb 9, 2012

On Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:31:41 UTC+10, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Good grief. Cold kills.

Only those who fail to adapt

The the poor, the old and the homeless (some overlap there), according to the news.

Bill Sloman · Feb 9, 2012

On Feb 8, 10:05 pm, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:39:57 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 7:55 pm, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:51:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 12:58 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:13:37 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 12:01 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:40:00 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 7, 4:14 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 03:49:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:35 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 18:39:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 10:41 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:19:57 -0500, Phil Hobbs

pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:36:08 +0000, Raveninghorde
raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:35:40 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid
wrote:

amdx wrote:
Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years
Met = UK's National Weather Service

Some of the rivers are already in the process of freezing over:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/n/a/2012/02/03/intern...

[...]

Cold enough here that watefalls have frozen

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16892848

Ice skating in the fens in Eastern England and -22C reported in the
Netherlands.

Good grief. Cold kills.

Well, as the old saw says, it's an ill wind that blows nobody good.
We've had an Indian summer that lasted all the way through January. The
last couple of nights it's been about freezing, but we've hardly had a
frost all winter. On Groundhog Day, everyone was saying that they
didn't care if ol' Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow or not, because
another 6 weeks of _this_ winter would be no big hardship.

Folks elsewhere that aren't used to it are having a bad time, though.

It's been balmy and sunny in San Francisco this week, and overall warm
and dry so far this winter. That's nice for walking and gardening, but
bad for skiing and for the water supply.

If you were to (somehow) plot mean human welfare against mean
planetary temperature, I'd guess we're currently located at an
up-slope, wild guess +5% per degree C.

It's unlikely that human welfare is a linear function of planetary
temperature. For one thing, weather-related human welfare tends to
depend on rainfall as well as temperature, and the occasional tornado
or cyclone can makes a few people decidedly unhappy and uncomfortable
more or less independent of temperature.

It's all going to be a little more complicated than you'd like to
think (if you liked to think about anything outside of electronics,
doesn't seem to happen).

You don't believe in derivatives?

Of course I believe in derivatives, but since I know a bit more than
you do, I get to believe in non-linear responses to a range of
environmental factors, and second order partial derivatives to
describe how "human welfare" - and other ill-defined scoring functions
- vary with - say - rainfall and temperature at the same time.

Word salad. Hand waving.

And the substantive content of "You don't believe in derivatives?" is?

You'd have to come up with some justification to demonstrate that that
wasn't hand-waving, and you really don't have the skills to do it.

You know so much about so many things that you are paralyzed.

Paralysed? Not really. Maybe too easily distracted. Nobody is offering
me money to pursue any particular goal,

I sure wouldn't.

Another vanity-driven failure of judgement.

Hey, you're repulsive. It's against company policy to hire more repulsive
people.

One was enough? The "high" in Highland refers to the personal odour of
the founder, rather than some elevation in the landscape?

For someone who pretends to be an intellectual, you are a real dork.

So calling me "repulsive" is behaving in some way other than being a
real dork?

You *are* repulsive; I bet most everyone agrees.

You'd lose. Few people need the level of flattery you seem to require
in social interactions.

All you do is tell
people how smart you are and how stupid they are. When have you said
anything friendly, funny, or genuinely helpful?

I don't tell you that you are stupid, but that you are ignorant. The
intelligent response on your part would be to get educated, rather
than irritated, so your responses are are what tell us that you aren't
as bright as you seem to think you are.

As far as helpful and informative responses go try out my response in
"3D printing using electron beam melting" today. The crack about a
mouse/elephant comparison was intended to be funny - and it certainly
dramatises the difference between an electron beam welder with
millamps of beam current at the target and an electron beam
microfabricator with a few microamps at the source.

Your "odour" insult is childish and idiotic, since you know nothing
about my personal hygiene. Actually, the San Francisco climate is
conducive to bodily freshness.

Of course it was childish and idiotic, as was your "repulsive people"
crack. It at least had the virtue of being idiotic enough that it
obviously couldn't be serious.

You produced a decidedly dorkish response, and get upset
when I respond in kind.

The focus of your life has always been how smart you are. Pity it
hasn't worked for you. I've seen the syndrome many times, and it's
really stupid.

Actually, the focus of my life - in so far as I've thought about it,
which only happens in job interviews -

You only think about your life during interviews? A couple of minutes
per decade?

Thinking about it is mostly a waste of time. You don't often get
opportunities to make life-changing decisions, and mostly there isn't
any real choice. Am I going to act like a selfish swine? Or a
responsible grown-up? doesn't need a lot of reflection (I opt for
responsible grown-up every bloody time - childhood training sticks).

is being useful. Being smart is
something I was born with - it's handy, but not a virtue.

So, how is the "useful" thing coming along?

Badly. Why do you think I'm unhappy about not getting work? It isn't
as if I need the money.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Bill Sloman · Feb 9, 2012

On Feb 8, 11:42 pm, mrstar...@gmail.com wrote:

As usual, mrstar misses the point.

Now you're trying too hard. That would be the pot calling the kettle black, at the very least.

Dream on.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

John Larkin · Feb 9, 2012

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:57:24 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 8, 10:05 pm, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:39:57 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 7:55 pm, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:51:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 12:58 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:13:37 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 12:01 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:40:00 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 7, 4:14 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 03:49:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:35 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 18:39:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 10:41 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:19:57 -0500, Phil Hobbs

pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:36:08 +0000, Raveninghorde
raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:35:40 -0800, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid
wrote:

amdx wrote:
Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years
Met = UK's National Weather Service

Some of the rivers are already in the process of freezing over:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/n/a/2012/02/03/intern...

[...]

Cold enough here that watefalls have frozen

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16892848

Ice skating in the fens in Eastern England and -22C reported in the
Netherlands.

Good grief. Cold kills.

Well, as the old saw says, it's an ill wind that blows nobody good.
We've had an Indian summer that lasted all the way through January. The
last couple of nights it's been about freezing, but we've hardly had a
frost all winter. On Groundhog Day, everyone was saying that they
didn't care if ol' Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow or not, because
another 6 weeks of _this_ winter would be no big hardship.

Folks elsewhere that aren't used to it are having a bad time, though.

It's been balmy and sunny in San Francisco this week, and overall warm
and dry so far this winter. That's nice for walking and gardening, but
bad for skiing and for the water supply.

If you were to (somehow) plot mean human welfare against mean
planetary temperature, I'd guess we're currently located at an
up-slope, wild guess +5% per degree C.

It's unlikely that human welfare is a linear function of planetary
temperature. For one thing, weather-related human welfare tends to
depend on rainfall as well as temperature, and the occasional tornado
or cyclone can makes a few people decidedly unhappy and uncomfortable
more or less independent of temperature.

It's all going to be a little more complicated than you'd like to
think (if you liked to think about anything outside of electronics,
doesn't seem to happen).

You don't believe in derivatives?

Of course I believe in derivatives, but since I know a bit more than
you do, I get to believe in non-linear responses to a range of
environmental factors, and second order partial derivatives to
describe how "human welfare" - and other ill-defined scoring functions
- vary with - say - rainfall and temperature at the same time.

Word salad. Hand waving.

And the substantive content of "You don't believe in derivatives?" is?

You'd have to come up with some justification to demonstrate that that
wasn't hand-waving, and you really don't have the skills to do it.

You know so much about so many things that you are paralyzed.

Paralysed? Not really. Maybe too easily distracted. Nobody is offering
me money to pursue any particular goal,

I sure wouldn't.

Another vanity-driven failure of judgement.

Hey, you're repulsive. It's against company policy to hire more repulsive
people.

One was enough? The "high" in Highland refers to the personal odour of
the founder, rather than some elevation in the landscape?

For someone who pretends to be an intellectual, you are a real dork.

So calling me "repulsive" is behaving in some way other than being a
real dork?

You *are* repulsive; I bet most everyone agrees.

You'd lose. Few people need the level of flattery you seem to require
in social interactions.

All you do is tell
people how smart you are and how stupid they are. When have you said
anything friendly, funny, or genuinely helpful?

I don't tell you that you are stupid, but that you are ignorant. The
intelligent response on your part would be to get educated, rather
than irritated, so your responses are are what tell us that you aren't
as bright as you seem to think you are.

As far as helpful and informative responses go try out my response in
"3D printing using electron beam melting" today. The crack about a
mouse/elephant comparison was intended to be funny - and it certainly
dramatises the difference between an electron beam welder with
millamps of beam current at the target and an electron beam
microfabricator with a few microamps at the source.

Your "odour" insult is childish and idiotic, since you know nothing
about my personal hygiene. Actually, the San Francisco climate is
conducive to bodily freshness.

Of course it was childish and idiotic, as was your "repulsive people"
crack. It at least had the virtue of being idiotic enough that it
obviously couldn't be serious.

You produced a decidedly dorkish response, and get upset
when I respond in kind.

The focus of your life has always been how smart you are. Pity it
hasn't worked for you. I've seen the syndrome many times, and it's
really stupid.

Actually, the focus of my life - in so far as I've thought about it,
which only happens in job interviews -

You only think about your life during interviews? A couple of minutes
per decade?

Thinking about it is mostly a waste of time. You don't often get
opportunities to make life-changing decisions, and mostly there isn't
any real choice. Am I going to act like a selfish swine? Or a
responsible grown-up? doesn't need a lot of reflection (I opt for
responsible grown-up every bloody time - childhood training sticks).

is being useful. Being smart is
something I was born with - it's handy, but not a virtue.

So, how is the "useful" thing coming along?

Badly. Why do you think I'm unhappy about not getting work? It isn't
as if I need the money.

If you're anything like as fatheaded in real life as you are here,
nobody sane would hire you.

--

John Larkin, President
Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation

Bill Sloman · Feb 9, 2012

On Feb 9, 3:03 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 16:57:24 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 10:05 pm, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 12:39:57 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 7:55 pm, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:51:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 12:58 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:13:37 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 8, 12:01 am, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:40:00 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 7, 4:14 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 03:49:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:35 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 18:39:26 -0800 (PST),BillSloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 5, 10:41 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:19:57 -0500, Phil Hobbs

pcdhSpamMeSensel...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:36:08 +0000, Raveninghorde
raveninghorde@invalid> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:35:40 -0800, Joerg <inva....@invalid.invalid
wrote:

amdx wrote:
Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years
Met = UK's National Weather Service

Some of the rivers are already in the process of freezing over:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/n/a/2012/02/03/intern...

[...]

Cold enough here that watefalls have frozen

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16892848

Ice skating in the fens in Eastern England and -22C reported in the
Netherlands.

Good grief. Cold kills.

Well, as the old saw says, it's an ill wind that blows nobody good.
We've had an Indian summer that lasted all the way through January. The
last couple of nights it's been about freezing, but we've hardly had a
frost all winter. On Groundhog Day, everyone was saying that they
didn't care if ol' Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow or not, because
another 6 weeks of _this_ winter would be no big hardship.

Folks elsewhere that aren't used to it are having a bad time, though.

It's been balmy and sunny in San Francisco this week, and overall warm
and dry so far this winter. That's nice for walking and gardening, but
bad for skiing and for the water supply.

If you were to (somehow) plot mean human welfare against mean
planetary temperature, I'd guess we're currently located at an
up-slope, wild guess +5% per degree C.

It's unlikely that human welfare is a linear function of planetary
temperature. For one thing, weather-related human welfare tends to
depend on rainfall as well as temperature, and the occasional tornado
or cyclone can makes a few people decidedly unhappy and uncomfortable
more or less independent of temperature.

It's all going to be a little more complicated than you'd like to
think (if you liked to think about anything outside of electronics,
doesn't seem to happen).

You don't believe in derivatives?

Of course I believe in derivatives, but since I know a bit more than
you do, I get to believe in non-linear responses to a range of
environmental factors, and second order partial derivatives to
describe how "human welfare" - and other ill-defined scoring functions
- vary with - say - rainfall and temperature at the same time.

Word salad. Hand waving.

And the substantive content of "You don't believe in derivatives?" is?

You'd have to come up with some justification to demonstrate that that
wasn't hand-waving, and you really don't have the skills to do it.

You know so much about so many things that you are paralyzed.

Paralysed? Not really. Maybe too easily distracted. Nobody is offering
me money to pursue any particular goal,

I sure wouldn't.

Another vanity-driven failure of judgement.

Hey, you're repulsive. It's against company policy to hire more repulsive
people.

One was enough? The "high" in Highland refers to the personal odour of
the founder, rather than some elevation in the landscape?

For someone who pretends to be an intellectual, you are a real dork..

So calling me "repulsive" is behaving in some way other than being a
real dork?

You *are* repulsive; I bet most everyone agrees.

You'd lose. Few people need the level of flattery you seem to require
in social interactions.

All you do is tell
people how smart you are and how stupid they are. When have you said
anything friendly, funny, or genuinely helpful?

I don't tell you that you are stupid, but that you are ignorant. The
intelligent response on your part would be to get educated, rather
than irritated, so your responses are are what tell us that you aren't
as bright as you seem to think you are.

As far as helpful and informative responses go try out my response in
"3D printing using electron beam melting" today. The crack about a
mouse/elephant comparison was intended to be funny - and it certainly
dramatises the difference between an electron beam welder with
millamps of beam current at the target and an electron beam
microfabricator with a few microamps at the source.

Your "odour" insult is childish and idiotic, since you know nothing
about my personal hygiene. Actually, the San Francisco climate is
conducive to bodily freshness.

Of course it was childish and idiotic, as was your "repulsive people"
crack. It at least had the virtue of being idiotic enough that it
obviously couldn't be serious.

You produced a decidedly dorkish response, and get upset
when I respond in kind.

The focus of your life has always been how smart you are. Pity it
hasn't worked for you. I've seen the syndrome many times, and it's
really stupid.

Actually, the focus of my life - in so far as I've thought about it,
which only happens in job interviews -

You only think about your life during interviews? A couple of minutes
per decade?

Thinking about it is mostly a waste of time. You don't often get
opportunities to make life-changing decisions, and mostly there isn't
any real choice. Am I going to act like a selfish swine? Or a
responsible grown-up? doesn't need a lot of reflection (I opt for
responsible grown-up every bloody time - childhood training sticks).

is being useful. Being smart is
something I was born with - it's handy, but not a virtue.

So, how is the "useful" thing coming along?

Badly. Why do you think I'm unhappy about not getting work? It isn't
as if I need the money.

If you're anything like as fatheaded in real life as you are here,
nobody sane would hire you.

But quite a few people did, so at least one of your premises has been
falsified. Your opinions about what sane people might do are reliably
bizarre, so maybe you don't know what "sane" really means. "Sane
people agree with John Larkin" isn't going to be a practical working
definition.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Michael A. Terrell · Feb 9, 2012

Phil Hobbs wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

Winston wrote:

The meanest humans I know are doing much better
than average.

Those damn 'uncivil engineers' are at it again? ;-)

I also know some mechanical engineers who are remarkably lifelike, at
times.

But only on payday!

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

Michael A. Terrell · Feb 9, 2012

mrstarbom@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:31:41 UTC+10, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

Good grief. Cold kills.

Only those who fail to adapt

The the poor, the old and the homeless (some overlap there), according to the news.

Still, some do absolutely nothing to prepare for cold weather when
having an extra blanket, or even making sure the doors and windows are
closed tight. An extra layer of clothes and being careful not to
overheat or get wet can do wonders for your survival.

I have been though the US Army cold weather survival training, and
spent a winter out in -40 for a good part of a year.

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

josephkk · Feb 10, 2012

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:55:12 -0800, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

Paralysed? Not really. Maybe too easily distracted. Nobody is offering
me money to pursue any particular goal,

I sure wouldn't.

Another vanity-driven failure of judgement.

Hey, you're repulsive. It's against company policy to hire more repulsive
people.

One was enough? The "high" in Highland refers to the personal odour of
the founder, rather than some elevation in the landscape?

For someone who pretends to be an intellectual, you are a real dork.

The focus of your life has always been how smart you are. Pity it
hasn't worked for you. I've seen the syndrome many times, and it's
really stupid.

Look in a mirror, John. Vanity is thy name. I often find it trying to

distinguish between you and Bill.
But then your company makes real products for sale to anybody, Bill makes
NOTHING and won't even do easy experiments.

?-/

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