How great is lockdown?...

I note that NSW Health is now recommending that people get their second
jab sooner in the light of the current outbreak. I\'ve managed to book it
for today.

Sylvia.
 
I note that NSW Health is now recommending that people get their second
jab sooner in the light of the current outbreak. I\'ve managed to book it
for today.

Sylvia.
 
On 15/07/2021 11:45 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

I heard that the G Wagons that the \"department of name changes\"
(DELWP, do firefighting in the Vic forrest areas) bought cut out
when their computer detects smoke. Which could be, umm,
inconvenient.

Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

As someone who calls himself a computer nerd you\'d think you\'d know what parts of URLs aren\'t
needed. In the above case it\'s the ?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024 on the end. Not
only unnecessary but can also be used to track where visitors got the link from. (Which is why I
remove it or anything similar from URLS before using them in a browser.)

<https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174>
gets you to the same page just fine.
--
Shaun.

\"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM\"
David Melville

This is not an email and hasn\'t been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.
 
On 15/07/2021 11:45 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

I heard that the G Wagons that the \"department of name changes\"
(DELWP, do firefighting in the Vic forrest areas) bought cut out
when their computer detects smoke. Which could be, umm,
inconvenient.

Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

As someone who calls himself a computer nerd you\'d think you\'d know what parts of URLs aren\'t
needed. In the above case it\'s the ?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024 on the end. Not
only unnecessary but can also be used to track where visitors got the link from. (Which is why I
remove it or anything similar from URLS before using them in a browser.)

<https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174>
gets you to the same page just fine.
--
Shaun.

\"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM\"
David Melville

This is not an email and hasn\'t been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.
 
On 12/07/2021 9:09 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15 microprocessors.

You think I\'m joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru and, due
to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to shut down all
the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who placed his OBD-II
machine on the car. It reported the prescence of 27 microprocessors. BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power than
a space shuttle.

They now often have multiple processors in the same chip, probably
adding up to more than that system reports. Eg. the BCM2835 SoC
used for the original Raspberry Pi includes the CPU, but also a
secondary \"videocore\" processor (VPU), as well as \"quad\" processors
(QPUs) which are used for 3D acceleration processing.

On the models that include a chip for Bluetooth/WiFi, that chip
has one ARM-based processor for Bluetooth and another for WiFi.
The CPU is actually booted by the VPU, then the CPU boots up the
BT/WiFi processors.

**Yep.
 
On 12/07/2021 9:09 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15 microprocessors.

You think I\'m joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru and, due
to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to shut down all
the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who placed his OBD-II
machine on the car. It reported the prescence of 27 microprocessors. BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power than
a space shuttle.

They now often have multiple processors in the same chip, probably
adding up to more than that system reports. Eg. the BCM2835 SoC
used for the original Raspberry Pi includes the CPU, but also a
secondary \"videocore\" processor (VPU), as well as \"quad\" processors
(QPUs) which are used for 3D acceleration processing.

On the models that include a chip for Bluetooth/WiFi, that chip
has one ARM-based processor for Bluetooth and another for WiFi.
The CPU is actually booted by the VPU, then the CPU boots up the
BT/WiFi processors.

**Yep.
 
~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/07/2021 11:45 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

As someone who calls himself a computer nerd you\'d think you\'d
know what parts of URLs aren\'t needed. In the above case it\'s the
?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024 on the end.

Alright alright, bitchy. I didn\'t see the \"?\" amongst the big long
hash that _is_ required for the URL to work, and frankly I don\'t
intend to study damn URLs like some obsessive just for the sake of
one quick post. Setting up an automatic process to always strip
anything after a \"?\" would obviously break other URLs.

Not only unnecessary but can also be used to track where visitors
got the link from. (Which is why I remove it or anything similar
from URLS before using them in a browser.)

Well good for you. Make sure you also tell it to all the fools who
post long links to Ebay and the like, sometimes even using a URL
shortener service, without realising that they can be trimmed down
to.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/[item number]

_I_ don\'t because I accept that not everybody can figure it out or
just be bothered to do it. Buy if you\'re going to pick on me for
_that_ one tracking parameter in the middle of a big long string of
identical-looking noise, then I expect you to tell those other URL
posters to rot in hell!

And while we\'re being bitchy, you had nothing to say about the Merc
4x4s, so why quote all that stuff above the link?

--
__ __
#_ < |\\| |< _#
 
~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/07/2021 11:45 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

As someone who calls himself a computer nerd you\'d think you\'d
know what parts of URLs aren\'t needed. In the above case it\'s the
?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024 on the end.

Alright alright, bitchy. I didn\'t see the \"?\" amongst the big long
hash that _is_ required for the URL to work, and frankly I don\'t
intend to study damn URLs like some obsessive just for the sake of
one quick post. Setting up an automatic process to always strip
anything after a \"?\" would obviously break other URLs.

Not only unnecessary but can also be used to track where visitors
got the link from. (Which is why I remove it or anything similar
from URLS before using them in a browser.)

Well good for you. Make sure you also tell it to all the fools who
post long links to Ebay and the like, sometimes even using a URL
shortener service, without realising that they can be trimmed down
to.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/[item number]

_I_ don\'t because I accept that not everybody can figure it out or
just be bothered to do it. Buy if you\'re going to pick on me for
_that_ one tracking parameter in the middle of a big long string of
identical-looking noise, then I expect you to tell those other URL
posters to rot in hell!

And while we\'re being bitchy, you had nothing to say about the Merc
4x4s, so why quote all that stuff above the link?

--
__ __
#_ < |\\| |< _#
 
~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/07/2021 11:45 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

As someone who calls himself a computer nerd you\'d think you\'d
know what parts of URLs aren\'t needed. In the above case it\'s the
?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024 on the end.

Alright alright, bitchy. I didn\'t see the \"?\" amongst the big long
hash that _is_ required for the URL to work, and frankly I don\'t
intend to study damn URLs like some obsessive just for the sake of
one quick post. Setting up an automatic process to always strip
anything after a \"?\" would obviously break other URLs.

Not only unnecessary but can also be used to track where visitors
got the link from. (Which is why I remove it or anything similar
from URLS before using them in a browser.)

Well good for you. Make sure you also tell it to all the fools who
post long links to Ebay and the like, sometimes even using a URL
shortener service, without realising that they can be trimmed down
to.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/[item number]

_I_ don\'t because I accept that not everybody can figure it out or
just be bothered to do it. Buy if you\'re going to pick on me for
_that_ one tracking parameter in the middle of a big long string of
identical-looking noise, then I expect you to tell those other URL
posters to rot in hell!

And while we\'re being bitchy, you had nothing to say about the Merc
4x4s, so why quote all that stuff above the link?

--
__ __
#_ < |\\| |< _#
 
On 12/07/2021 9:09 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15 microprocessors.

You think I\'m joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru and, due
to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to shut down all
the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who placed his OBD-II
machine on the car. It reported the prescence of 27 microprocessors. BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power than
a space shuttle.

They now often have multiple processors in the same chip, probably
adding up to more than that system reports. Eg. the BCM2835 SoC
used for the original Raspberry Pi includes the CPU, but also a
secondary \"videocore\" processor (VPU), as well as \"quad\" processors
(QPUs) which are used for 3D acceleration processing.

On the models that include a chip for Bluetooth/WiFi, that chip
has one ARM-based processor for Bluetooth and another for WiFi.
The CPU is actually booted by the VPU, then the CPU boots up the
BT/WiFi processors.

**Yep.
 
On 12/07/2021 9:20 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
I note that NSW Health is now recommending that people get their second
jab sooner in the light of the current outbreak. I\'ve managed to book it
for today.

Sylvia.

**You\'re lucky. My quack can\'t fit me in until next Wednesday. That
gives me 8 weeks between jabs.
 
On 12/07/2021 9:20 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
I note that NSW Health is now recommending that people get their second
jab sooner in the light of the current outbreak. I\'ve managed to book it
for today.

Sylvia.

**You\'re lucky. My quack can\'t fit me in until next Wednesday. That
gives me 8 weeks between jabs.
 
On 12/07/2021 9:20 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
I note that NSW Health is now recommending that people get their second
jab sooner in the light of the current outbreak. I\'ve managed to book it
for today.

Sylvia.

**You\'re lucky. My quack can\'t fit me in until next Wednesday. That
gives me 8 weeks between jabs.
 
On 12/07/2021 9:20 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
I note that NSW Health is now recommending that people get their second
jab sooner in the light of the current outbreak. I\'ve managed to book it
for today.

Sylvia.

**You\'re lucky. My quack can\'t fit me in until next Wednesday. That
gives me 8 weeks between jabs.
 
On 12/07/2021 9:09 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15 microprocessors.

You think I\'m joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru and, due
to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to shut down all
the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who placed his OBD-II
machine on the car. It reported the prescence of 27 microprocessors. BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power than
a space shuttle.

They now often have multiple processors in the same chip, probably
adding up to more than that system reports. Eg. the BCM2835 SoC
used for the original Raspberry Pi includes the CPU, but also a
secondary \"videocore\" processor (VPU), as well as \"quad\" processors
(QPUs) which are used for 3D acceleration processing.

On the models that include a chip for Bluetooth/WiFi, that chip
has one ARM-based processor for Bluetooth and another for WiFi.
The CPU is actually booted by the VPU, then the CPU boots up the
BT/WiFi processors.

**Yep.
 
Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote:
On 15/07/2021 7:45 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

I heard that the G Wagons that the \"department of name changes\"
(DELWP, do firefighting in the Vic forrest areas) bought cut out
when their computer detects smoke. Which could be, umm,
inconvenient.

Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

That was 4 years ago !!

So what?

> Also did you check the response from a user ??

No, I don\'t even enable the Javascript required to show comments on
sites like that because I don\'t think they\'re worth much coming
from random readers. I\'ve never driven one, so you believe who you
like. Personally I wouldn\'t like the idea of a vehicle deciding for
itself to cut out in the middle of a firefighting operation, where
it might be required to escape from a dangerous situation. If they
have to do that in order to protect the gearbox, then that just
suggests to me that the gearbox isn\'t up to the job. But I only
know what I hear and read.

--
__ __
#_ < |\\| |< _#
 
Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote:
On 15/07/2021 7:45 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

I heard that the G Wagons that the \"department of name changes\"
(DELWP, do firefighting in the Vic forrest areas) bought cut out
when their computer detects smoke. Which could be, umm,
inconvenient.

Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

That was 4 years ago !!

So what?

> Also did you check the response from a user ??

No, I don\'t even enable the Javascript required to show comments on
sites like that because I don\'t think they\'re worth much coming
from random readers. I\'ve never driven one, so you believe who you
like. Personally I wouldn\'t like the idea of a vehicle deciding for
itself to cut out in the middle of a firefighting operation, where
it might be required to escape from a dangerous situation. If they
have to do that in order to protect the gearbox, then that just
suggests to me that the gearbox isn\'t up to the job. But I only
know what I hear and read.

--
__ __
#_ < |\\| |< _#
 
Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote:
On 15/07/2021 7:45 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

I heard that the G Wagons that the \"department of name changes\"
(DELWP, do firefighting in the Vic forrest areas) bought cut out
when their computer detects smoke. Which could be, umm,
inconvenient.

Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

That was 4 years ago !!

So what?

> Also did you check the response from a user ??

No, I don\'t even enable the Javascript required to show comments on
sites like that because I don\'t think they\'re worth much coming
from random readers. I\'ve never driven one, so you believe who you
like. Personally I wouldn\'t like the idea of a vehicle deciding for
itself to cut out in the middle of a firefighting operation, where
it might be required to escape from a dangerous situation. If they
have to do that in order to protect the gearbox, then that just
suggests to me that the gearbox isn\'t up to the job. But I only
know what I hear and read.

--
__ __
#_ < |\\| |< _#
 
On 12-Jul-21 9:53 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/07/2021 9:20 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
I note that NSW Health is now recommending that people get their
second jab sooner in the light of the current outbreak. I\'ve managed
to book it for today.

Sylvia.

**You\'re lucky. My quack can\'t fit me in until next Wednesday. That
gives me 8 weeks between jabs.

My own doctor\'s offering was 4th August, so I mentally said \"bugger
that\" and looked around for on-line booking options.

Depends on the area, of course, and your mileage may vary.

The main issue, to my mind, is what the situation might be when I had to
expose myself to potential infection in order to get the jab. I\'m on the
north shore, which at present seems a small risk. A month from now,
which is about when I was due, the situation could be a hell of a lot
worse. Or the problem could have been solved. One has to make a call on
that.

Sylvia.
 
On 12-Jul-21 9:53 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/07/2021 9:20 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
I note that NSW Health is now recommending that people get their
second jab sooner in the light of the current outbreak. I\'ve managed
to book it for today.

Sylvia.

**You\'re lucky. My quack can\'t fit me in until next Wednesday. That
gives me 8 weeks between jabs.

My own doctor\'s offering was 4th August, so I mentally said \"bugger
that\" and looked around for on-line booking options.

Depends on the area, of course, and your mileage may vary.

The main issue, to my mind, is what the situation might be when I had to
expose myself to potential infection in order to get the jab. I\'m on the
north shore, which at present seems a small risk. A month from now,
which is about when I was due, the situation could be a hell of a lot
worse. Or the problem could have been solved. One has to make a call on
that.

Sylvia.
 

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