How great is lockdown?...

[Trevor Wilson]

Really great.
For me.

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301. It was given
to me by the brother of a mate (who probably pinched it from PMG, where
he worked) sometime around 1965. I used it in a number of projects and I
just checked it on the meter. Damned thing still works. HFE - 77.
Leakage 1.8ma.

Anyway, I\'m about 1/3rd of the way through the cleanup. Roll on next
weekend. I wonder what treasures I will find.

I did find some honkin\' big AlNiCo magnets, salvaged from a monster
computer hard drive and some others from a Japanese 1960s vintage
medical chart recorder. I was hopeful that AlNiCo might be worth something.

https://imgur.com/FtZy56Q

https://imgur.com/ol35ojz

https://imgur.com/PDwMbFA

The last two from a Winchester drive. HUGE throw. Around 80mm. Might
make a good subwoofer motor.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 06-Jul-21 11:05 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Really great.
For me.

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what
I found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301. It was
given to me by the brother of a mate (who probably pinched it from
PMG, where he worked) sometime around 1965. I used it in a number of
projects and I just checked it on the meter. Damned thing still works.
HFE - 77. Leakage 1.8ma.

Anyway, I\'m about 1/3rd of the way through the cleanup. Roll on next
weekend. I wonder what treasures I will find.

I did find some honkin\' big AlNiCo magnets, salvaged from a monster
computer hard drive and some others from a Japanese 1960s vintage
medical chart recorder. I was hopeful that AlNiCo might be worth
something.

https://imgur.com/FtZy56Q

https://imgur.com/ol35ojz

https://imgur.com/PDwMbFA

The last two from a Winchester drive. HUGE throw. Around 80mm. Might
make a good subwoofer motor.

Rate things are going, and with the gov\'ment unwilling to impose greater
restrictions, we\'ll be enjoying this lockdown indefinitely.

**They\'re idiots. Shoulda locked down a week earlier. The half-arsed
lockdown is just dumb.

I\'ll continue to hide inside my house until at least a couple of weeks
after I get my second AZ jab in August.

**Snap! Mine is due on the 11th Aug.

One thing - my forthcoming delivery of booze turns out to require me to
show id which somewhat defeats the non-contact nature of online ordering.

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 06-Jul-21 11:05 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Really great.
For me.

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what
I found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301. It was
given to me by the brother of a mate (who probably pinched it from
PMG, where he worked) sometime around 1965. I used it in a number of
projects and I just checked it on the meter. Damned thing still works.
HFE - 77. Leakage 1.8ma.

Anyway, I\'m about 1/3rd of the way through the cleanup. Roll on next
weekend. I wonder what treasures I will find.

I did find some honkin\' big AlNiCo magnets, salvaged from a monster
computer hard drive and some others from a Japanese 1960s vintage
medical chart recorder. I was hopeful that AlNiCo might be worth
something.

https://imgur.com/FtZy56Q

https://imgur.com/ol35ojz

https://imgur.com/PDwMbFA

The last two from a Winchester drive. HUGE throw. Around 80mm. Might
make a good subwoofer motor.

Rate things are going, and with the gov\'ment unwilling to impose greater
restrictions, we\'ll be enjoying this lockdown indefinitely.

**They\'re idiots. Shoulda locked down a week earlier. The half-arsed
lockdown is just dumb.

I\'ll continue to hide inside my house until at least a couple of weeks
after I get my second AZ jab in August.

**Snap! Mine is due on the 11th Aug.

One thing - my forthcoming delivery of booze turns out to require me to
show id which somewhat defeats the non-contact nature of online ordering.

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 06-Jul-21 11:05 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Really great.
For me.

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what
I found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301. It was
given to me by the brother of a mate (who probably pinched it from
PMG, where he worked) sometime around 1965. I used it in a number of
projects and I just checked it on the meter. Damned thing still works.
HFE - 77. Leakage 1.8ma.

Anyway, I\'m about 1/3rd of the way through the cleanup. Roll on next
weekend. I wonder what treasures I will find.

I did find some honkin\' big AlNiCo magnets, salvaged from a monster
computer hard drive and some others from a Japanese 1960s vintage
medical chart recorder. I was hopeful that AlNiCo might be worth
something.

https://imgur.com/FtZy56Q

https://imgur.com/ol35ojz

https://imgur.com/PDwMbFA

The last two from a Winchester drive. HUGE throw. Around 80mm. Might
make a good subwoofer motor.

Rate things are going, and with the gov\'ment unwilling to impose greater
restrictions, we\'ll be enjoying this lockdown indefinitely.

**They\'re idiots. Shoulda locked down a week earlier. The half-arsed
lockdown is just dumb.

I\'ll continue to hide inside my house until at least a couple of weeks
after I get my second AZ jab in August.

**Snap! Mine is due on the 11th Aug.

One thing - my forthcoming delivery of booze turns out to require me to
show id which somewhat defeats the non-contact nature of online ordering.

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 06-Jul-21 11:05 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Really great.
For me.

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what
I found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301. It was
given to me by the brother of a mate (who probably pinched it from
PMG, where he worked) sometime around 1965. I used it in a number of
projects and I just checked it on the meter. Damned thing still works.
HFE - 77. Leakage 1.8ma.

Anyway, I\'m about 1/3rd of the way through the cleanup. Roll on next
weekend. I wonder what treasures I will find.

I did find some honkin\' big AlNiCo magnets, salvaged from a monster
computer hard drive and some others from a Japanese 1960s vintage
medical chart recorder. I was hopeful that AlNiCo might be worth
something.

https://imgur.com/FtZy56Q

https://imgur.com/ol35ojz

https://imgur.com/PDwMbFA

The last two from a Winchester drive. HUGE throw. Around 80mm. Might
make a good subwoofer motor.

Rate things are going, and with the gov\'ment unwilling to impose greater
restrictions, we\'ll be enjoying this lockdown indefinitely.

**They\'re idiots. Shoulda locked down a week earlier. The half-arsed
lockdown is just dumb.

I\'ll continue to hide inside my house until at least a couple of weeks
after I get my second AZ jab in August.

**Snap! Mine is due on the 11th Aug.

One thing - my forthcoming delivery of booze turns out to require me to
show id which somewhat defeats the non-contact nature of online ordering.

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 06-Jul-21 11:05 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
Really great.
For me.

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what
I found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301. It was
given to me by the brother of a mate (who probably pinched it from
PMG, where he worked) sometime around 1965. I used it in a number of
projects and I just checked it on the meter. Damned thing still works.
HFE - 77. Leakage 1.8ma.

Anyway, I\'m about 1/3rd of the way through the cleanup. Roll on next
weekend. I wonder what treasures I will find.

I did find some honkin\' big AlNiCo magnets, salvaged from a monster
computer hard drive and some others from a Japanese 1960s vintage
medical chart recorder. I was hopeful that AlNiCo might be worth
something.

https://imgur.com/FtZy56Q

https://imgur.com/ol35ojz

https://imgur.com/PDwMbFA

The last two from a Winchester drive. HUGE throw. Around 80mm. Might
make a good subwoofer motor.

Rate things are going, and with the gov\'ment unwilling to impose greater
restrictions, we\'ll be enjoying this lockdown indefinitely.

**They\'re idiots. Shoulda locked down a week earlier. The half-arsed
lockdown is just dumb.

I\'ll continue to hide inside my house until at least a couple of weeks
after I get my second AZ jab in August.

**Snap! Mine is due on the 11th Aug.

One thing - my forthcoming delivery of booze turns out to require me to
show id which somewhat defeats the non-contact nature of online ordering.

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

 

[Xeno]

On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

On 13/07/2021 3:56 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 13/07/2021 9:44 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/07/2021 11:22 am, Clocky wrote:
On 12/07/2021 2:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/07/2021 4:16 am, R Souls wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
================

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at
what I
found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128
that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one -
operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
    Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no
insulators.

    One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.

I had one of those. It was a Motorola.and it worked a treat. Can\'t
remember where I found it but I fitted it into my Austin Maxi in the
1980s. It was made for a positive earth system so I had to insullate
the whole thing form the car chassis. My mates couldn\'t understand
why
it took half a minute to warm up.

I got 35 quid for it on ebay a few years back. A bloke wanted it for
his 1959 Hillman Minx he\'d restored..

**\"Warm up\"? Must have been a valve model. ALL SS ones are instant
on. Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15
microprocessors.

You think I\'m joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru
and, due to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to
shut down all the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who
placed his OBD-II machine on the car. It reported the prescence of
27 microprocessors.

That\'s a low number by todays standards but that\'s unsurprising for
a Subaru. When I did the Holden Vectra training around 2003 or so
that model already had around that many.

**Really. That surprises me. I had the in-laws\' 2001 Vectra here for
a bit, as they wanted it sold. It was less sophisticated than my VP
Commodore (admittedly, optioned to Calais level). Unless, of course,
they did a radical re-fit of the Vectra by 2003.


The ZC Vectra was a very different beast. It had all the fruit (TCS,
ESC, SRS, ABS etc etc) but it also had things like modules for each
tail light, headlight, door lock etc. The VP had bugger all computing
power, just an ECM and BCM basically. There were different BCM
\"levels\" (for instance high or low) depending on the luxury level of
the vehicle but in terms of computing power it had bugger all.


BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power
than a space shuttle.


Not really. Each module contains it\'s own \"computer\" and they
communicate over the CAN-BUS. Many of these are typically pretty low
power in terms of computing power. There is one for pretty much
everything these days.

**True enough. Bloody things are everywhere. They\'re so cheap and so
powerful, manufacturers can\'t help themselves. When I built an
intermittant wiper attachment for my Escort, I needed a small handful
of discrete components (A UJT, an SCR, a potentiometer, a couple of
caps and half a dozen resistors). Even back then it cost less than
$15.00 to build. I betcha manufacturers use a dedicated micro for the
job.

They do and with it comes issues. Like the bloke who attempted to wire
up some spot lights on his NP300 Navara and destroyed the IPDM - $300
module from Nissan plus labour...

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

 

[Xeno]

On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

On 13/07/2021 3:56 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 13/07/2021 9:44 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/07/2021 11:22 am, Clocky wrote:
On 12/07/2021 2:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/07/2021 4:16 am, R Souls wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
================

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at
what I
found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128
that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one -
operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
    Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no
insulators.

    One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.

I had one of those. It was a Motorola.and it worked a treat. Can\'t
remember where I found it but I fitted it into my Austin Maxi in the
1980s. It was made for a positive earth system so I had to insullate
the whole thing form the car chassis. My mates couldn\'t understand
why
it took half a minute to warm up.

I got 35 quid for it on ebay a few years back. A bloke wanted it for
his 1959 Hillman Minx he\'d restored..

**\"Warm up\"? Must have been a valve model. ALL SS ones are instant
on. Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15
microprocessors.

You think I\'m joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru
and, due to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to
shut down all the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who
placed his OBD-II machine on the car. It reported the prescence of
27 microprocessors.

That\'s a low number by todays standards but that\'s unsurprising for
a Subaru. When I did the Holden Vectra training around 2003 or so
that model already had around that many.

**Really. That surprises me. I had the in-laws\' 2001 Vectra here for
a bit, as they wanted it sold. It was less sophisticated than my VP
Commodore (admittedly, optioned to Calais level). Unless, of course,
they did a radical re-fit of the Vectra by 2003.


The ZC Vectra was a very different beast. It had all the fruit (TCS,
ESC, SRS, ABS etc etc) but it also had things like modules for each
tail light, headlight, door lock etc. The VP had bugger all computing
power, just an ECM and BCM basically. There were different BCM
\"levels\" (for instance high or low) depending on the luxury level of
the vehicle but in terms of computing power it had bugger all.


BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power
than a space shuttle.


Not really. Each module contains it\'s own \"computer\" and they
communicate over the CAN-BUS. Many of these are typically pretty low
power in terms of computing power. There is one for pretty much
everything these days.

**True enough. Bloody things are everywhere. They\'re so cheap and so
powerful, manufacturers can\'t help themselves. When I built an
intermittant wiper attachment for my Escort, I needed a small handful
of discrete components (A UJT, an SCR, a potentiometer, a couple of
caps and half a dozen resistors). Even back then it cost less than
$15.00 to build. I betcha manufacturers use a dedicated micro for the
job.

They do and with it comes issues. Like the bloke who attempted to wire
up some spot lights on his NP300 Navara and destroyed the IPDM - $300
module from Nissan plus labour...

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

 

[Xeno]

On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

On 13/07/2021 3:56 pm, Clocky wrote:
On 13/07/2021 9:44 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/07/2021 11:22 am, Clocky wrote:
On 12/07/2021 2:50 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/07/2021 4:16 am, R Souls wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
================

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at
what I
found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128
that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one -
operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
    Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no
insulators.

    One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.

I had one of those. It was a Motorola.and it worked a treat. Can\'t
remember where I found it but I fitted it into my Austin Maxi in the
1980s. It was made for a positive earth system so I had to insullate
the whole thing form the car chassis. My mates couldn\'t understand
why
it took half a minute to warm up.

I got 35 quid for it on ebay a few years back. A bloke wanted it for
his 1959 Hillman Minx he\'d restored..

**\"Warm up\"? Must have been a valve model. ALL SS ones are instant
on. Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15
microprocessors.

You think I\'m joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru
and, due to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to
shut down all the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who
placed his OBD-II machine on the car. It reported the prescence of
27 microprocessors.

That\'s a low number by todays standards but that\'s unsurprising for
a Subaru. When I did the Holden Vectra training around 2003 or so
that model already had around that many.

**Really. That surprises me. I had the in-laws\' 2001 Vectra here for
a bit, as they wanted it sold. It was less sophisticated than my VP
Commodore (admittedly, optioned to Calais level). Unless, of course,
they did a radical re-fit of the Vectra by 2003.


The ZC Vectra was a very different beast. It had all the fruit (TCS,
ESC, SRS, ABS etc etc) but it also had things like modules for each
tail light, headlight, door lock etc. The VP had bugger all computing
power, just an ECM and BCM basically. There were different BCM
\"levels\" (for instance high or low) depending on the luxury level of
the vehicle but in terms of computing power it had bugger all.


BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power
than a space shuttle.


Not really. Each module contains it\'s own \"computer\" and they
communicate over the CAN-BUS. Many of these are typically pretty low
power in terms of computing power. There is one for pretty much
everything these days.

**True enough. Bloody things are everywhere. They\'re so cheap and so
powerful, manufacturers can\'t help themselves. When I built an
intermittant wiper attachment for my Escort, I needed a small handful
of discrete components (A UJT, an SCR, a potentiometer, a couple of
caps and half a dozen resistors). Even back then it cost less than
$15.00 to build. I betcha manufacturers use a dedicated micro for the
job.

They do and with it comes issues. Like the bloke who attempted to wire
up some spot lights on his NP300 Navara and destroyed the IPDM - $300
module from Nissan plus labour...

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin\' hearts took away my
Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin\' hearts took away my
Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin\' hearts took away my
Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin\' hearts took away my
Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 9/07/2021 12:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin\' hearts took away my
Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

**Try meditation instead. Healthier and cheaper.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 9/07/2021 12:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin\' hearts took away my
Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

**Try meditation instead. Healthier and cheaper.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 9/07/2021 12:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin\' hearts took away my
Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

**Try meditation instead. Healthier and cheaper.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 09-Jul-21 1:18 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 9/07/2021 12:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin\' hearts took away my
Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

**Try meditation instead. Healthier and cheaper.

Might have to - said booze didn\'t show. The courier claimed \"receiver
unavailable\" which I think is code for \"didn\'t want to get out of his
truck in the rain and dark.\"

Since I paid almost $10 for a next day delivery which didn\'t happen, I\'m
quite miffed. The email demanding a refund has already been sent.

Sylvia.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 09-Jul-21 1:18 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 9/07/2021 12:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin\' hearts took away my
Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

**Try meditation instead. Healthier and cheaper.

Might have to - said booze didn\'t show. The courier claimed \"receiver
unavailable\" which I think is code for \"didn\'t want to get out of his
truck in the rain and dark.\"

Since I paid almost $10 for a next day delivery which didn\'t happen, I\'m
quite miffed. The email demanding a refund has already been sent.

Sylvia.

 

[Computer Nerd Kev]

Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

I heard that the G Wagons that the \"department of name changes\"
(DELWP, do firefighting in the Vic forrest areas) bought cut out
when their computer detects smoke. Which could be, umm,
inconvenient.

Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

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[Computer Nerd Kev]

Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

I heard that the G Wagons that the \"department of name changes\"
(DELWP, do firefighting in the Vic forrest areas) bought cut out
when their computer detects smoke. Which could be, umm,
inconvenient.

Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

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