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Peter
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Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote
Does that make ROHS dead?
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Peter
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Jim Granville <no.spam@designtools.co.nz> wrote
Let's say I am buying a microcontroller, which is not in a lead-free
package; it's a very old design and is approaching a last time buy. In
fact, I've had to buy the last few k from the cowboy dealers who buy
up old stocks.
It would take about 1 man-year of work to redesign the product with a
different micro.
I am planning to buy up a LOT of old stock of this chip; enough to
last me about 10 years, because I don't have the resources to re-do
what's in it, and also because what's in it is of very high quality
(zero bugs discovered in > 10 years). This product has a very long
life.
Does that mean I am exempt? It says "is not possible". But surely
anything is "possible". One can put a man on the moon.
The more practical problem is that my customers are continually asking
me for an ROHS statement. I just say we will be compliant by July
2006. After that, I might be telling a lie. Presumably, everybody else
will have to do the same - even those who are relying on clear and
genuine exemptions - because few of their customers will be interested
in the fine print; they just want a simple compliance statement.
Let's look at this one.
Let's say I am buying a microcontroller, which is not in a lead-free
package; it's a very old design and is approaching a last time buy. In
fact, I've had to buy the last few k from the cowboy dealers who buy
up old stocks.
It would take about 1 man-year of work to redesign the product with a
different micro.
I am planning to buy up a LOT of old stock of this chip; enough to
last me about 10 years, because I don't have the resources to re-do
what's in it, and also because what's in it is of very high quality
(zero bugs discovered in > 10 years). This product has a very long
life.
Does that mean I am exempt? It says "is not possible". But surely
anything is "possible". One can put a man on the moon.
The more practical problem is that my customers are continually asking
me for an ROHS statement. I just say we will be compliant by July
2006. After that, I might be telling a lie. Presumably, everybody else
will have to do the same - even those who are relying on clear and
genuine exemptions - because few of their customers will be interested
in the fine print; they just want a simple compliance statement.
J
Jim Thompson
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:11:58 +0100, Peter <nospam@nospam9876.com>
wrote:
damage infliction ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
wrote:
The Europeon bureaucracy is alive and well, and running at maximum
damage infliction ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
R
R.Lewis
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"Peter" <nospam@nospam9876.com> wrote in message
news:dcsba1thq4qkjihs6h8ftuv7k56okk9sf4@4ax.com...
I do not want to be one of the suckers conned into buying, as new, something
with maybe up to 20 year old parts in it.
Are you aware, for example, of the sulphur content on the cardboard boxes in
which you hope to keep these parts, and its diffusion rate through the
primary packaging materials?
How are you going to verify the product integrity/reliabilty etc.
news:dcsba1thq4qkjihs6h8ftuv7k56okk9sf4@4ax.com...
Please let us know of your product.
I do not want to be one of the suckers conned into buying, as new, something
with maybe up to 20 year old parts in it.
Are you aware, for example, of the sulphur content on the cardboard boxes in
which you hope to keep these parts, and its diffusion rate through the
primary packaging materials?
How are you going to verify the product integrity/reliabilty etc.
G
GrumpyOldGeek
Guest
R.Lewis wrote:
Those that worry about sulfur content of packaging,
ant those that design useful products.
In my opinion, there are 2 kinds of engineers in the world.
Those that worry about sulfur content of packaging,
ant those that design useful products.
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Peter
Guest
keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
re-arranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
How very true. Looking to the future (China etc) the EU may as well be
re-arranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
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Pooh Bear
Guest
Jim Thompson wrote:
constitution are in reality expressing their distaste for things such as
the Brussels bureacrats. About time too.
Graham
I suspect that those countries that get a vote on the proposed
constitution are in reality expressing their distaste for things such as
the Brussels bureacrats. About time too.
Graham
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Paul Burke
Guest
Pooh Bear wrote:
week. The commission (the Jacques-in-office) tried to railroad it
through unexamined a few months ago, attached at the last moment to some
minor agricultural diktat, sadly for them someone spotted it.
Paul Burke
Talking of which, the Euro parliament is voting on software patents next
week. The commission (the Jacques-in-office) tried to railroad it
through unexamined a few months ago, attached at the last moment to some
minor agricultural diktat, sadly for them someone spotted it.
Paul Burke
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Pooh Bear
Guest
Paul Burke wrote:
Time for *real* Europeans to claim back their future !
Graham
Aren't they always trying to pull a fast one ?
Time for *real* Europeans to claim back their future !
Graham