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Jon Elson · Apr 2, 2014

Ian Field wrote:

"hamilton" <hamilton@nothere.com> wrote in message

WOW, do computers still have modems ??

There's still a few floating about - I even have some in the junk box,
there's not much worthy salvage in them other than the power jack.

When you get broadband, you most definitely want to get rid of the modem -
some infected websites can plant rogue dialer malware that calls premium
rate numbers without telling you.

I still keep mine for the rare occasion somebody insists I send them
an actual FAX. Much easier to send them a PDF, but some outfits
are still in the dark ages.

Jon

Tim Wescott · Apr 2, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:51:14 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

I know women like that. Eventually they grow up and become monogamous.

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

Mike Perkins · Apr 2, 2014

On 01/04/2014 20:51, Jim Thompson wrote:

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

Is this for servicing your wife?

Are Drywall and Stucco names of escort agencies?

--
Mike Perkins
Video Solutions Ltd
www.videosolutions.ltd.uk

John Larkin · Apr 2, 2014

On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 18:41:37 -0500, "Maynard A. Philbrook Jr."
<jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> wrote:

In article <j36mj91u27nb1657tph2miaa7f8t6dn6u1@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com says...

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

didn't know you were that type!

Jamie

He need a Young Buck Sensor.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. · Apr 2, 2014

In article <ifbkj9dda3eerj1m5ina83imotk9khur4f@4ax.com>,
jfields@austininstruments.com says...

On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:32:58 -0500, "Maynard A. Philbrook Jr."
jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> wrote:

In article <c09si95ib7ouiqagnuc2dtvifsa9bsnstr@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com says...
I know the almighty Oz has declared simulation a crutch, but how do
you really verify what I've described... at LEAST 30,000 nodes to
check?

...Jim Thompson

The way LTspice performs, I can't imagine it trying 30k nodes.

Jamie

---
The way _you_ perform makes it difficult to see you imagining it
trying three nodes.

John Fields

You don't have room to talk!
Did you figure out that bloggs screw up yet?

Jamie

Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. · Apr 2, 2014

In article <j36mj91u27nb1657tph2miaa7f8t6dn6u1@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com says...

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

didn't know you were that type!

Jamie

Jim Thompson · Apr 2, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:51:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

I guess I need to reword this request... all the juveniles are
diverting attention from the original intent :-(

Actually I need an accurate locator for those _rafters_ in the ceiling
so I can hang a ladder hoist.

...Jim Thompson
--
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| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice

Martin Riddle · Apr 2, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:31:54 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:51:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

I guess I need to reword this request... all the juveniles are
diverting attention from the original intent :-(

Actually I need an accurate locator for those _rafters_ in the ceiling
so I can hang a ladder hoist.

...Jim Thompson

The one miso recomends, its an actual stud finder, not a nail finder
has wire warning too.
<http://www.zircon.com/>
<http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zircon-Corporation-Studsensor-I65-Onestep-Stud-Finder-61961/100615130#product_description>

Cheers

Jim Thompson · Apr 2, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:51:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

I guess I need to reword this request... all the juveniles are
diverting attention from the original intent :-(

Actually I need an accurate locator for those _joists_ in the wall
framing so I can hang some heavy tools.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson | mens |
| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice

Jim Thompson · Apr 2, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 21:41:30 -0400, Martin Riddle
<martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:31:54 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:51:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

I guess I need to reword this request... all the juveniles are
diverting attention from the original intent :-(

Actually I need an accurate locator for those _rafters_ in the ceiling
so I can hang a ladder hoist.

...Jim Thompson

The one miso recomends, its an actual stud finder, not a nail finder
has wire warning too.
http://www.zircon.com/
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zircon-Corporation-Studsensor-I65-Onestep-Stud-Finder-61961/100615130#product_description

Cheers

Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. · Apr 2, 2014

In article <fpqmj91s4qltqfg79nh5timnhm3pk44lpq@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com says...

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:51:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

I guess I need to reword this request... all the juveniles are
diverting attention from the original intent :-(

Actually I need an accurate locator for those _joists_ in the wall
framing so I can hang some heavy tools.

...Jim Thompson

There, 3 in 1 tool, take's care of all your needs and it
cheap, too!

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-in-1-stud-finder-with-voltage-and-metal-
detection-67801.html

Jamie

Martin Riddle · Apr 2, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:46:02 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 21:41:30 -0400, Martin Riddle
martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:31:54 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:51:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

I guess I need to reword this request... all the juveniles are
diverting attention from the original intent :-(

Actually I need an accurate locator for those _rafters_ in the ceiling
so I can hang a ladder hoist.

...Jim Thompson

The one miso recomends, its an actual stud finder, not a nail finder
has wire warning too.
http://www.zircon.com/
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zircon-Corporation-Studsensor-I65-Onestep-Stud-Finder-61961/100615130#product_description

Cheers

Anyone have experience with this one...

http://tinyurl.com/kdonaw2

...Jim Thompson

Check the reviews, do you have a foil vapor barrier on the insulation?
Seems to cause problems.

Cheers

Jim Thompson · Apr 2, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 23:11:23 -0400, Martin Riddle
<martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:46:02 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 21:41:30 -0400, Martin Riddle
martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:31:54 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:51:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

I guess I need to reword this request... all the juveniles are
diverting attention from the original intent :-(

Actually I need an accurate locator for those _rafters_ in the ceiling
so I can hang a ladder hoist.

...Jim Thompson

The one miso recomends, its an actual stud finder, not a nail finder
has wire warning too.
http://www.zircon.com/
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zircon-Corporation-Studsensor-I65-Onestep-Stud-Finder-61961/100615130#product_description

Cheers

Anyone have experience with this one...

http://tinyurl.com/kdonaw2

...Jim Thompson

Check the reviews, do you have a foil vapor barrier on the insulation?
Seems to cause problems.

Cheers

Martin Riddle · Apr 2, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 20:13:16 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 23:11:23 -0400, Martin Riddle
martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:46:02 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 21:41:30 -0400, Martin Riddle
martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:31:54 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:51:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

I guess I need to reword this request... all the juveniles are
diverting attention from the original intent :-(

Actually I need an accurate locator for those _rafters_ in the ceiling
so I can hang a ladder hoist.

...Jim Thompson

The one miso recomends, its an actual stud finder, not a nail finder
has wire warning too.
http://www.zircon.com/
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zircon-Corporation-Studsensor-I65-Onestep-Stud-Finder-61961/100615130#product_description

Cheers

Anyone have experience with this one...

http://tinyurl.com/kdonaw2

...Jim Thompson

Check the reviews, do you have a foil vapor barrier on the insulation?
Seems to cause problems.

Cheers

Good point. This house... they even used a foil barrier on the roof
plywood!

...Jim Thompson

That thermal barrier reduces attic temperatures quite a bit!

Cheers

Jim Thompson · Apr 2, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 23:25:48 -0400, Martin Riddle
<martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 20:13:16 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 23:11:23 -0400, Martin Riddle
martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:46:02 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 21:41:30 -0400, Martin Riddle
martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:31:54 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:51:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

OT: Best Stud Locator? (Thru drywall or stucco.)

...Jim Thompson

I guess I need to reword this request... all the juveniles are
diverting attention from the original intent :-(

Actually I need an accurate locator for those _rafters_ in the ceiling
so I can hang a ladder hoist.

...Jim Thompson

The one miso recomends, its an actual stud finder, not a nail finder
has wire warning too.
http://www.zircon.com/
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zircon-Corporation-Studsensor-I65-Onestep-Stud-Finder-61961/100615130#product_description

Cheers

Anyone have experience with this one...

http://tinyurl.com/kdonaw2

...Jim Thompson

Check the reviews, do you have a foil vapor barrier on the insulation?
Seems to cause problems.

Cheers

Good point. This house... they even used a foil barrier on the roof
plywood!

...Jim Thompson

That thermal barrier reduces attic temperatures quite a bit!

Cheers

RobertMacy · Apr 2, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:46:02 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@on-my-web-site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 21:41:30 -0400, Martin Riddle
martin_rid@verizon.net> wrote:

...,snip....
The one miso recomends, its an actual stud finder, not a nail finder
has wire warning too.
http://www.zircon.com/
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Zircon-Corporation-Studsensor-I65-Onestep-Stud-Finder-61961/100615130#product_description

Cheers

Anyone have experience with this one...

http://tinyurl.com/kdonaw2

...Jim Thompson

I own a zircon and know the people while in the Bay Area. They generally
make good products.

I had planned on looking through plaster/lath to find studs, never got it
to work well, kept missing and had false positives and false negatives,
just didn't work well for me.

Best was a simple metal detector to find all the nails. $2.00 for a little
magnet that spun freely inside a plastic partially transparent cylinder. I
think Home Depot carries. Both are now in storage, so recently I used a
'stack' of neodynium magnets. But this is new construction and the skim
coats aren't that thick, thus often the magnets actually stuck to the
walls. use a magnet out of a defunct microwave.

Jeff Liebermann · Apr 3, 2014

On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 18:44:01 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

Actually I need an accurate locator for those _joists_ in the wall
framing so I can hang some heavy tools.
...Jim Thompson

I have several stud finders (actually edge finders) made by Zircon.
The one I managed to find is a Studsensor i65. The LCD display is
much easier to use than a row of LEDs type.
<http://www.zircon.com/products/center_ss_i65.html>
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/261440455176>
Buy several so that when the neighbor borrows yours and doesn't return
it, you are still functional.

As someone mentioned previously, there can be problems dealing with
foil backed insulation if it is improperly installed. There is
suppose to be a small air gap between the foil and the back of the
drywall. That makes it easy for the stud finder to see the change in
density. However, if someone installed the insulation over the studs,
and then nailed the drywall over the edges, the aluminum will shield
the stud and the stud finder is not going to work. I've seen this
exactly once on an owner built home, so I wouldn't worry about it
much.

Hint: Heavy tools hit the ground rather hard. I suggest you store
them on shelves, where a crash landing isn't as likely.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. · Apr 3, 2014

In article <9o8pj99uv5qk1125gaaf7ebauo200fkd0p@4ax.com>,
jfields@austininstruments.com says...

I hope you were never involved in any life saving
applications when you were in the job force..

---
That's just suicidal thinking.

I am glad you finally fest up to something.

And don't bother to reiterate on the original
thread, it obviously slid under your radar.

Jamie

Maynard A. Philbrook Jr. · Apr 4, 2014

In article <5vbqj91m8q6gigj6288pntk49mk3snllgb@4ax.com>,
jfields@austininstruments.com says...

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:01:54 -0500, "Maynard A. Philbrook Jr."
jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> wrote:

In article <9o8pj99uv5qk1125gaaf7ebauo200fkd0p@4ax.com>,
jfields@austininstruments.com says...
I hope you were never involved in any life saving
applications when you were in the job force..

---
That's just suicidal thinking.

I am glad you finally fest up to something.

---
"Fest"???

Whoosh...
---

And don't bother to reiterate on the original
thread, it obviously slid under your radar.

Jamie

---
"Don't bother" obviously refers to your wish of not being held
accountable for bogus claims you've made and therefore can't
possibly back up, while your allusion to sliding under the radar is
your excuse for the imaginary "screw-up" you keep harping on not
causing a blip.

You could end your tawdry prolonging the agony of this thread by
simply pointing out Bloggs' alleged screw-up, but will you?

Of course not, since you can't.

Instead, you'd rather just keep on aimlessly typing, hoping against
hope that one day you'll be the one to have typed out the
Britannica.

news:a7bqj91jruphou4pg61aoasl6dj36ivt80@4ax.com

John Fields

Useless.

John Fields · Apr 4, 2014

On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 17:45:07 -0500, "Maynard A. Philbrook Jr."
<jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> wrote:

In article <5vbqj91m8q6gigj6288pntk49mk3snllgb@4ax.com>,
jfields@austininstruments.com says...

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 21:01:54 -0500, "Maynard A. Philbrook Jr."
jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> wrote:

In article <9o8pj99uv5qk1125gaaf7ebauo200fkd0p@4ax.com>,
jfields@austininstruments.com says...
I hope you were never involved in any life saving
applications when you were in the job force..

---
That's just suicidal thinking.

I am glad you finally fest up to something.

---
"Fest"???

Whoosh...
---

And don't bother to reiterate on the original
thread, it obviously slid under your radar.

Jamie

---
"Don't bother" obviously refers to your wish of not being held
accountable for bogus claims you've made and therefore can't
possibly back up, while your allusion to sliding under the radar is
your excuse for the imaginary "screw-up" you keep harping on not
causing a blip.

You could end your tawdry prolonging the agony of this thread by
simply pointing out Bloggs' alleged screw-up, but will you?

Of course not, since you can't.

Instead, you'd rather just keep on aimlessly typing, hoping against
hope that one day you'll be the one to have typed out the
Britannica.

news:a7bqj91jruphou4pg61aoasl6dj36ivt80@4ax.com

John Fields

Useless.

---
Well, I see some progress has been made in that your verbosity has
decreased substantially, albeit still being bereft of worthwhile
content.

Perhaps another shot or two will convince you to shut the fuck up
and rid us all of both problems.

John Fields

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