Driver to drive?

[Bill Sloman]

On May 8, 12:15 pm, spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 2, 10:50 am, Charlie E. <edmond...@ieee.org> wrote:









On Wed, 02 May 2012 12:33:32 -0500, Les Cargill

lcargil...@comcast.com> wrote:
Charlie E. wrote:
,snip
There used to be a stigma about being on relief.  You didn't want to
do it, and if you did, you got off as quickly as you could.

But then, in the 60's and 70's, a new meme took hold, those that
purposely went on 'relief.' Welfare moms, entire households of
multiple generations living comfortably on the dole.  And, the sad
truth was, it was ENCOURAGED by those in authority.

Whut?  I have known very, very few people who *preferred* to be on
relief/welfare. I know a lot of people who have had some measure
of trouble finding  a job - not because they aren't qualified, but
because jobs are disappearing.

You see, you define relief = welfare, when it encompasses a much
larger number of programs today.  You should go to the grocery store
more often.  It seems like about half the folks in the check out are
doing the 'food stamp shuffle' where they pick one from column A, put
all their 'not-allowed' products in group B, and spend an extra five
minutes paying for everything.

Charlie dimly perceives that many people can't make ends meet. The sad
fact is that once Bush's bubble economy burst, no real economic growth
replaced it. People who could get family-sustaining wages from
manufacturing jobs have no replacements other than retail. Further,
even high-paying jobs are being offshored or outsourced. It's a great
day to be a Chinaman, but I digress.

Food stamps benefit America's farmers. In the Great Depression,
commodity prices sank below the cost of production. Farmers piled
oranges to rot, and dumped milk into rivers. Now, the government
supplements what farmers get paid for their produce, while families
get to eat the farmers' production. This was thought to be win-win.











We did the math here - "welfare" welfare is not that significant a load
on the economy - under 5% of GDP (more like 2-3% ) .

Disability, SS and Medicare are a  problem.

When people who don't have a lot of savings go out of the job market,
they go on disability. We can't shoot 'em...

People dependent on the government voted for more government.
Government that promised to 'take care' of people got reelected.  So,
now we have a society in which half of the population doesn't pay
income taxes.

That isn't a problem in itself, except that it reflects the fact that
wages are flat as a still pond.

No, it is a problem.  We have convinced over 50% of Americans that
they should get a 'free ride' from everyone else, or actually get
something more from everyone else.  It is a pernicous attitude that
should be stopped!

As I pointed out before, few people made more than the zero bracket
amount during the Depression. Families are no better off than they
were during the Depression. Pay people more, and they will pay more in
taxes.

If only there were organizations for workers to join, to raise their
pay to the point that they could pay more in federal income tax....

The are called trade unions, but the American media have been
demonising them for nearly a century and a half now, while employers
use bribery and influence to make sure that those unions that do exist
are corrupt and ineffective.

The German approach is rather more sympathetic to trade unions.

More and more people are encouraged to use government relief services
in their everyday lives, and those services are breaking down under
the load.

And nutcases like Bill still don't understand that there is anything
wrong!  

Something's terribly wrong when the US economy cannot produce jobs
that will sustain families, for everyone who wants one.

One of the problems is that the US education system does seem to fail
to educate an appreciable proportion of the children who go through
it, making them incapable of taking on a wide range of productive
jobs.

Nobody's education system is perfect, but the US education system
isn't one of the high-flyers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment

It's 15th in literacy. 24th in numeracy and 21st in science, and the
low average probably has more to do with system failing to deliver to
the children of the poor rather than an across-the-board failure - so
the US median is probably much the same as everybody else's, but a
larger proportion of the population ends up with substandard skills.

This is one of the side-effects of a high level of income inequality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

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[Jamie]

dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

On May 8, 6:27 am, spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 4, 6:27 am, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:










On May 2, 3:41 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:

Les Cargill wrote:

When people who don't have a lot of savings go out of the job market,
they go on disability. We can't shoot 'em...

Fuck you. I ended up on disability a couple years before retirement
because my health failed.

Michael, I'm proud to work a little longer and pay a little more.
You're the kind of guy we want to help.

I'm surrounded by people who compete with you for that same pool of
money who are able-bodied, yet who simply don't want to work.

What jobs are going begging for want of workers where you live? My
godson is graduating without a job lined up.


Target and Harbor Freight are hiring, probably a bunch of others.
Where I live, those pay more than enough to buy a house and raise a
family.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
Yes, and while you're at HF, you can get store discounts and fill up

your home with Chinese made goods!

Jamie

 

[Jamie]

Owen Roberts wrote:

Maybe Dave at the BLOG will test this one, although I doubt RF is his
cup of Tea...

Rigol 1.5 Ghz spectrum analyser for 1295.00 US.

Inquiring minds want to know.... Is it any good...


http://www.rigolna.com/products/spectrum-analyzers/

Steve
I was looking at that myself for home base however, it isn't

really much better than what I already have with the old
IFR service monitor..

For me, I would rather wait for something that can reach up
there much higher with out a huge price tag. If that
coverage is more than you need then I guess it's ok.

I shouldn't really say much about that, my unit was purchased
a few years ago "used" for $8k from tucker by a passing friend. When
his things got sold off to his friends first before the dumpster, I gave
his family $2k for it and it has been a valuable piece of gear.

Jamie

 

[josephkk]

On Thu, 10 May 2012 10:38:56 -0700 (PDT), Owen Roberts <osr@case.edu>
wrote:

Maybe Dave at the BLOG will test this one, although I doubt RF is his
cup of Tea...

Rigol 1.5 Ghz spectrum analyser for 1295.00 US.

Inquiring minds want to know.... Is it any good...


http://www.rigolna.com/products/spectrum-analyzers/

Steve

I need to get to wifi and bluetooth range.

?-)

 

[Tim Williams]

Either 1uF, or the point is invisible making it 0.1?

Metal case something, or regular aluminum electrolytic? If it's not
aluminum then probably dry tantalum.

Tim

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"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote in message
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I've got an axial lead polarized cap with the following markings:

1K
50V

Its about 0.1 in diam x 0.3 in long

Now, I've seen 1K as a picofarad value, which would make this a 1nF cap.
But
this thing is big compared to other caps of this rating. A .001uF 1KV
ceramic is much smaller. And this doesn't make sense in the circuit its
in.

In other contexts, the K letter code defines the tolerance. But that
usually
follows a three digit value code.

So, what is it that I'm looking at? The cap is bad, or I'd throw it on a
meter and figure it out.

--
Paul Hovnanian mailtoaul@Hovnanian.com
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[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 25 May 2012 19:28:06 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

I've got an axial lead polarized cap with the following markings:

Be thankful it has markings. I've seen parts with nothing marked on
them.

1K
50V
Its about 0.1 in diam x 0.3 in long

If it's polarized, that small, and only 50v rating, I would guess it's
an electrolytic (or possibly a tantalum) at 0.1uF 50V.

Now, I've seen 1K as a picofarad value,

It could also be in nano farads, making it a 1000nF or 0.1uF.

which would make this a 1nF cap. But
this thing is big compared to other caps of this rating. A .001uF 1KV
ceramic is much smaller. And this doesn't make sense in the circuit its in.

ceramics are not polarized.

In other contexts, the K letter code defines the tolerance. But that usually
follows a three digit value code.

So, what is it that I'm looking at? The cap is bad, or I'd throw it on a
meter and figure it out.

How do you know it's bad? If it leaked toxic brown goo, or sprayed
confetti everywhere, then it's probably an electrolyic. If it belched
toxic noxious fumes, it's a tantalum.
--
# Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
# 831-336-2558
# http://802.11junk.com jeffl@cruzio.com
# http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS

 

[tm]

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:buudnX_U2rL4ol3SnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@posted.isomediainc...

I've got an axial lead polarized cap with the following markings:

1K
50V

Its about 0.1 in diam x 0.3 in long

Now, I've seen 1K as a picofarad value, which would make this a 1nF cap.
But
this thing is big compared to other caps of this rating. A .001uF 1KV
ceramic is much smaller. And this doesn't make sense in the circuit its
in.

In other contexts, the K letter code defines the tolerance. But that
usually
follows a three digit value code.

So, what is it that I'm looking at? The cap is bad, or I'd throw it on a
meter and figure it out.

Are there any other like capacitors in the device you are working on?

 

[tm]

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 19:28:06 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

I've got an axial lead polarized cap with the following markings:

Be thankful it has markings. I've seen parts with nothing marked on
them.

1K
50V
Its about 0.1 in diam x 0.3 in long

If it's polarized, that small, and only 50v rating, I would guess it's
an electrolytic (or possibly a tantalum) at 0.1uF 50V.

Now, I've seen 1K as a picofarad value,

It could also be in nano farads, making it a 1000nF or 0.1uF.

which would make this a 1nF cap. But
this thing is big compared to other caps of this rating. A .001uF 1KV
ceramic is much smaller. And this doesn't make sense in the circuit its
in.

ceramics are not polarized.

In other contexts, the K letter code defines the tolerance. But that
usually
follows a three digit value code.

So, what is it that I'm looking at? The cap is bad, or I'd throw it on a
meter and figure it out.

How do you know it's bad? If it leaked toxic brown goo, or sprayed
confetti everywhere, then it's probably an electrolyic. If it belched
toxic noxious fumes, it's a tantalum.
--

1000 nF is 1 uF

If it is shorted, it's probably a tantalum. If it's open, then aluminum
electrolytic.
If there was a fire, it's definitely tantalum.

Where is it in the circuit? Power supply, timing, filter???

 

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

spamtrap1888 wrote:

On May 25, 7:28 pm, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <p...@hovnanian.com> wrote:
I've got an axial lead polarized cap with the following markings:

1K
50V

Its about 0.1 in diam x 0.3 in long

Now, I've seen 1K as a picofarad value, which would make this a 1nF cap.
But this thing is big compared to other caps of this rating. A .001uF 1KV
ceramic is much smaller. And this doesn't make sense in the circuit its
in.

In other contexts, the K letter code defines the tolerance. But that
usually follows a three digit value code.

So, what is it that I'm looking at? The cap is bad, or I'd throw it on a
meter and figure it out.

I'm going to take a SWAG and say the K stands for Kemet.

Could there be more markings on the rest of the package, or have you
already removed it from the circuit?

Not yet removed. Its kind of stuffed between other components, so if there's
something on the bottom, I'll have to pull it to check. But I'd be
surprised to see the polarity and voltage marked on one side (along with
this mystery code) and the value marked on the other. They usually put all
these attribute markings together and part numbers elsewhere. That's what
makes me think the 1K is value.

--
Paul Hovnanian mailtoaul@Hovnanian.com
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can't read any of them.
-- Roy Keir

 

[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

Tim Williams wrote:

Either 1uF, or the point is invisible making it 0.1?

Metal case something, or regular aluminum electrolytic? If it's not
aluminum then probably dry tantalum.

Tim

Looks like metal with a translucent, tan colored plastic covering. The
coloring could be due to aging. This thing (my truck) is about 35 years
old.

--
Paul Hovnanian mailtoaul@Hovnanian.com
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[Paul Hovnanian P.E.]

tm wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:buudnX_U2rL4ol3SnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@posted.isomediainc...
I've got an axial lead polarized cap with the following markings:

1K
50V

Its about 0.1 in diam x 0.3 in long

Now, I've seen 1K as a picofarad value, which would make this a 1nF cap.
But
this thing is big compared to other caps of this rating. A .001uF 1KV
ceramic is much smaller. And this doesn't make sense in the circuit its
in.

In other contexts, the K letter code defines the tolerance. But that
usually
follows a three digit value code.

So, what is it that I'm looking at? The cap is bad, or I'd throw it on a
meter and figure it out.


Are there any other like capacitors in the device you are working on?

Nothing similar to this. Its a pretty simple circuit. A half dozen Rs, a few
diodes, two transistors.

--
Paul Hovnanian mailtoaul@Hovnanian.com
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Sleep is for wimps. Happy, healthy, well-rested wimps, but wimps
nonetheless.

 

[spamtrap1888]

On May 25, 7:28 pm, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <p...@hovnanian.com> wrote:

I've got an axial lead polarized cap with the following markings:

1K
50V

Its about 0.1 in diam x 0.3 in long

Now, I've seen 1K as a picofarad value, which would make this a 1nF cap. But
this thing is big compared to other caps of this rating. A .001uF 1KV
ceramic is much smaller. And this doesn't make sense in the circuit its in.

In other contexts, the K letter code defines the tolerance. But that usually
follows a three digit value code.

So, what is it that I'm looking at? The cap is bad, or I'd throw it on a
meter and figure it out.

I'm going to take a SWAG and say the K stands for Kemet.

Could there be more markings on the rest of the package, or have you
already removed it from the circuit?

 

[Markus Freund]

Hi,

maybe it is a capacitor with 1000uF.

You could measure it. Go to a store where they have a meter.

Put it together with some resistor and apply a rect. Take an
oscilloscope and get the time-constant.

Look into the datasheet of the manufacturer like this
http://www.vishay.com/docs/28325/021asm.pdf

best
markus

Am 26.05.2012 04:28, schrieb Paul Hovnanian P.E.:

I've got an axial lead polarized cap with the following markings:

1K
50V

Its about 0.1 in diam x 0.3 in long

Now, I've seen 1K as a picofarad value, which would make this a 1nF cap. But
this thing is big compared to other caps of this rating. A .001uF 1KV
ceramic is much smaller. And this doesn't make sense in the circuit its in.

In other contexts, the K letter code defines the tolerance. But that usually
follows a three digit value code.

So, what is it that I'm looking at? The cap is bad, or I'd throw it on a
meter and figure it out.

 

[Chieftain of the Carpet C]

On Fri, 25 May 2012 21:44:16 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888
<spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 25, 7:28 pm, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." <p...@hovnanian.com> wrote:
I've got an axial lead polarized cap with the following markings:

1K
50V

Its about 0.1 in diam x 0.3 in long

Now, I've seen 1K as a picofarad value, which would make this a 1nF cap. But
this thing is big compared to other caps of this rating. A .001uF 1KV
ceramic is much smaller. And this doesn't make sense in the circuit its in.

In other contexts, the K letter code defines the tolerance. But that usually
follows a three digit value code.

So, what is it that I'm looking at? The cap is bad, or I'd throw it on a
meter and figure it out.

I'm going to take a SWAG and say the K stands for Kemet.

You're an idiot. The designations for the device value and voltage
rating, etc. and the company ID info are not going to appear mingled
together.

The reference mark many times will connote the dielectric medium.

Could there be more markings on the rest of the package, or have you
already removed it from the circuit?

He gave us the VALUE ID info already, ya dope. Likely no other
markings, or he would have mentioned it in his first, quite concise
enough post.

 

[Chieftain of the Carpet C]

On Sat, 26 May 2012 12:21:29 +0200, Markus Freund
<markus.freund@s2005.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:

Hi,

maybe it is a capacitor with 1000uF.

Use your brain. How big would a 50 volt 1000 microfarad capacitor be
physically?

Much larger than a tenth of an inch by a third of an inch. Get REAL.

 

[Doug White]

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote in
news:buudnX_U2rL4ol3SnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@posted.isomediainc:

I've got an axial lead polarized cap with the following markings:

1K
50V

Its about 0.1 in diam x 0.3 in long

Now, I've seen 1K as a picofarad value, which would make this a 1nF
cap. But this thing is big compared to other caps of this rating. A
.001uF 1KV ceramic is much smaller. And this doesn't make sense in the
circuit its in.

In other contexts, the K letter code defines the tolerance. But that
usually follows a three digit value code.

So, what is it that I'm looking at? The cap is bad, or I'd throw it on
a meter and figure it out.

If it's polarized, it's presumably an electrolytic. As a guess, that
would be about the right size for a 1 uFd 50V cap. On the otherhand, if
the "K" is a tolerance mark, that's pretty unusual for an electrolytic.

Doug White

 

[Ian Field]

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote in message
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Tim Williams wrote:

Either 1uF, or the point is invisible making it 0.1?

Metal case something, or regular aluminum electrolytic? If it's not
aluminum then probably dry tantalum.

Tim

I'd like to join the consensus saying "1" - maybe a hard to read point, and
offer the opinion that "K" could be a tolerance code.

 

[Jamie]

Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:

tm wrote:


"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:buudnX_U2rL4ol3SnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@posted.isomediainc...

I've got an axial lead polarized cap with the following markings:

1K
50V

Its about 0.1 in diam x 0.3 in long

Now, I've seen 1K as a picofarad value, which would make this a 1nF cap.
But
this thing is big compared to other caps of this rating. A .001uF 1KV
ceramic is much smaller. And this doesn't make sense in the circuit its
in.

In other contexts, the K letter code defines the tolerance. But that
usually
follows a three digit value code.

So, what is it that I'm looking at? The cap is bad, or I'd throw it on a
meter and figure it out.


Are there any other like capacitors in the device you are working on?


Nothing similar to this. Its a pretty simple circuit. A half dozen Rs, a few
diodes, two transistors.

sounds like a low ESR cap used to absorb transients. The "K" meant

something, I just can't remember what now ..

Jamie

 

[legg]

On Fri, 25 May 2012 22:14:36 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul@hovnanian.com> wrote:

Tim Williams wrote:

Either 1uF, or the point is invisible making it 0.1?

Metal case something, or regular aluminum electrolytic? If it's not
aluminum then probably dry tantalum.

Tim


Looks like metal with a translucent, tan colored plastic covering. The
coloring could be due to aging. This thing (my truck) is about 35 years
old.

What sealing method is used? Does the positive/isolated lead have a
weld/bump close to the point of entry? If so, it would identify a
tantalum part. Aluminium or film parts will have no bump.

Seeing as the part is dead (how determined?), you can always section
it to examine guts. Plastic foil would suggest lower values (pF nF).
Paper foil or slug would drive higher values ( 100nF uF).

As per value - you can always sub in parts to witness ~ circuit
function. Motor control / wiper speed etc.

RL