Goes back to the Depression. Republicans would not pay anything if the
What jobs are going begging for want of workers where you live? My
Probably true with fish, but not cheap in relation to chicken. ShrimpOn May 2, 2:39 pm, amdx<a...@knology.net> wrote:
On 5/2/2012 11:20 AM, Charlie E. wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2012 16:52:03 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
eac...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 1, 7:22 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2012 05:46:33 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Apr 29, 7:08 pm, flipper<flip...@fish.net> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:34:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:22:54 -0500, amdx<a...@knologynotthis.net> wrote:
On 4/26/2012 2:28 PM, Joel Koltner wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc&feature=player_embedded
Well, hey... it's pretty well-produced; definitely gives Michael Moore
some "competition," I suppose.
One video leads to another and I end up here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=bavou_SEj1E
At 2:18 she says "somebody needs to pay for all my children...take care
of all our suffering... somebody needs to be held accountable."
Mikek
The poor thang ;-)
What we need is a welfare rule where adding a kid _after_ you go on welfare
_reduces_ the take.
...Jim Thompson
The problem with notions of what is, in essence, a 'child tax' is it
punishes not only the 'excess' child but the others as well.
Giving someone money, just less, is punishment?
But, if they just published a schedule showing a decreasing
incremental benefit, the extra kid-for-ransom production would drop.
Of course that'll never happen, since the formulas are always too
complicated for anyone to understand. Measuring everyone's "need" is
complicated.
On welfare? Lose any children. It's child abuse to allow children to grow up
in a welfare home and become the next generation of dependents.
But most of them don't. And with slightly more generous social
security, even fewer of them end up dependent - not so many more as
end up dependent after having grown up with a silver spoon in their
mouths.
Right-wing nitwits find reality much too complicated to cope with so
they idealise the world into 100% good bits, replete with mom and
apple pie, and 100% bad bits where all fathers are absentees and every
mother is a crackhead.
It's nonsense, but it is the kind of nonsense that even krw can
understand.
There used to be a stigma about being on relief. You didn't want to
do it, and if you did, you got off as quickly as you could.
But then, in the 60's and 70's, a new meme took hold, those that
purposely went on 'relief.' Welfare moms, entire households of
multiple generations living comfortably on the dole. And, the sad
truth was, it was ENCOURAGED by those in authority. People dependent
on the government voted for more government. Government that promised
to 'take care' of people got reelected. So, now we have a society in
which half of the population doesn't pay income taxes. More and more
people are encouraged to use government relief services in their
everyday lives, and those services are breaking down under the load.
And nutcases like Bill still don't understand that there is anything
wrong!
Charlie
Yes, there is no longer shame!
Here in Florida they have changed food stamps to EBT.
Electronic Funds Transfer
My business is selling shrimp, I have people ask "do you take EBT?"
I don't, but when I'm ask, I have this bubble over my head that says,
"if the taxpayers are buying the protein you need for survival, you
should buy $2.00 lb chicken rather than $10 lb shrimp."
But that's the mentality, it's not their money so they don't care.
Mikek-
Shrimp is a cheap food these days, cheaper than vertebrate fish.
Since josephkk is a right-wing nitwit, what he means by "economic
James Arthur's ever-reliable perceptions tell him that they "simply
That was the first thing I replaced.
aul@Hovnanian.comI recall "tiger prawns" being raised in conjunction with flooded riceOn 5/8/2012 5:17 AM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
On May 2, 2:39 pm, amdx<a...@knology.net> wrote:
On 5/2/2012 11:20 AM, Charlie E. wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2012 16:52:03 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
eac...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 1, 7:22 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2012 05:46:33 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Apr 29, 7:08 pm, flipper<flip...@fish.net> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:34:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:22:54 -0500, amdx<a...@knologynotthis.net> wrote:
On 4/26/2012 2:28 PM, Joel Koltner wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc&feature=player_embedded
Well, hey... it's pretty well-produced; definitely gives Michael Moore
some "competition," I suppose.
One video leads to another and I end up here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=bavou_SEj1E
At 2:18 she says "somebody needs to pay for all my children...take care
of all our suffering... somebody needs to be held accountable."
Mikek
The poor thang ;-)
What we need is a welfare rule where adding a kid _after_ you go on welfare
_reduces_ the take.
...Jim Thompson
The problem with notions of what is, in essence, a 'child tax' is it
punishes not only the 'excess' child but the others as well.
Giving someone money, just less, is punishment?
But, if they just published a schedule showing a decreasing
incremental benefit, the extra kid-for-ransom production would drop.
Of course that'll never happen, since the formulas are always too
complicated for anyone to understand. Measuring everyone's "need" is
complicated.
On welfare? Lose any children. It's child abuse to allow children to grow up
in a welfare home and become the next generation of dependents.
But most of them don't. And with slightly more generous social
security, even fewer of them end up dependent - not so many more as
end up dependent after having grown up with a silver spoon in their
mouths.
Right-wing nitwits find reality much too complicated to cope with so
they idealise the world into 100% good bits, replete with mom and
apple pie, and 100% bad bits where all fathers are absentees and every
mother is a crackhead.
It's nonsense, but it is the kind of nonsense that even krw can
understand.
There used to be a stigma about being on relief. You didn't want to
do it, and if you did, you got off as quickly as you could.
But then, in the 60's and 70's, a new meme took hold, those that
purposely went on 'relief.' Welfare moms, entire households of
multiple generations living comfortably on the dole. And, the sad
truth was, it was ENCOURAGED by those in authority. People dependent
on the government voted for more government. Government that promised
to 'take care' of people got reelected. So, now we have a society in
which half of the population doesn't pay income taxes. More and more
people are encouraged to use government relief services in their
everyday lives, and those services are breaking down under the load.
And nutcases like Bill still don't understand that there is anything
wrong!
Charlie
Yes, there is no longer shame!
Here in Florida they have changed food stamps to EBT.
Electronic Funds Transfer
My business is selling shrimp, I have people ask "do you take EBT?"
I don't, but when I'm ask, I have this bubble over my head that says,
"if the taxpayers are buying the protein you need for survival, you
should buy $2.00 lb chicken rather than $10 lb shrimp."
But that's the mentality, it's not their money so they don't care.
Mikek-
Shrimp is a cheap food these days, cheaper than vertebrate fish.
Probably true with fish, but not cheap in relation to chicken. Shrimp
prices have been driven down by farm raised imported shrimp. The boats
get less per pound now then they did twenty years ago. The last few
years we have been selling 15 count head on shrimp for $7.50 per lb.
After removing head and shell you have about 60% left, that's about
$12.50 per consumable pound for protein. My medium size are about $10
after cleaning.
I get a newsletter about shrimp and one of the large wholesalers in
the Fl. panhandle now has 55 acres of shrimp farming ponds. I'm not sure
how long we will have wild caught shrimp. Early on in shrimp farming
it was said you could get three crops a per years within 15 degrees of
the equator, and only one in the panhandle. I don't know if they have
worked around that problem.
Someone even has a shrimp farm in Michigan.http://www.shrimpfarmmarket.com/
Asian Tiger shrimp have been caught in the Gulf of Mexico and inOn May 8, 5:32 am, amdx<a...@knologynotthis.net> wrote:
On 5/8/2012 5:17 AM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
On May 2, 2:39 pm, amdx<a...@knology.net> wrote:
On 5/2/2012 11:20 AM, Charlie E. wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2012 16:52:03 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
eac...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 1, 7:22 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2012 05:46:33 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Apr 29, 7:08 pm, flipper<flip...@fish.net> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:34:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:22:54 -0500, amdx<a...@knologynotthis.net> wrote:
On 4/26/2012 2:28 PM, Joel Koltner wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc&feature=player_embedded
Well, hey... it's pretty well-produced; definitely gives Michael Moore
some "competition," I suppose.
One video leads to another and I end up here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=bavou_SEj1E
At 2:18 she says "somebody needs to pay for all my children...take care
of all our suffering... somebody needs to be held accountable."
Mikek
The poor thang ;-)
What we need is a welfare rule where adding a kid _after_ you go on welfare
_reduces_ the take.
...Jim Thompson
The problem with notions of what is, in essence, a 'child tax' is it
punishes not only the 'excess' child but the others as well.
Giving someone money, just less, is punishment?
But, if they just published a schedule showing a decreasing
incremental benefit, the extra kid-for-ransom production would drop.
Of course that'll never happen, since the formulas are always too
complicated for anyone to understand. Measuring everyone's "need" is
complicated.
On welfare? Lose any children. It's child abuse to allow children to grow up
in a welfare home and become the next generation of dependents.
But most of them don't. And with slightly more generous social
security, even fewer of them end up dependent - not so many more as
end up dependent after having grown up with a silver spoon in their
mouths.
Right-wing nitwits find reality much too complicated to cope with so
they idealise the world into 100% good bits, replete with mom and
apple pie, and 100% bad bits where all fathers are absentees and every
mother is a crackhead.
It's nonsense, but it is the kind of nonsense that even krw can
understand.
There used to be a stigma about being on relief. You didn't want to
do it, and if you did, you got off as quickly as you could.
But then, in the 60's and 70's, a new meme took hold, those that
purposely went on 'relief.' Welfare moms, entire households of
multiple generations living comfortably on the dole. And, the sad
truth was, it was ENCOURAGED by those in authority. People dependent
on the government voted for more government. Government that promised
to 'take care' of people got reelected. So, now we have a society in
which half of the population doesn't pay income taxes. More and more
people are encouraged to use government relief services in their
everyday lives, and those services are breaking down under the load.
And nutcases like Bill still don't understand that there is anything
wrong!
Charlie
Yes, there is no longer shame!
Here in Florida they have changed food stamps to EBT.
Electronic Funds Transfer
My business is selling shrimp, I have people ask "do you take EBT?"
I don't, but when I'm ask, I have this bubble over my head that says,
"if the taxpayers are buying the protein you need for survival, you
should buy $2.00 lb chicken rather than $10 lb shrimp."
But that's the mentality, it's not their money so they don't care.
Mikek-
Shrimp is a cheap food these days, cheaper than vertebrate fish.
Probably true with fish, but not cheap in relation to chicken. Shrimp
prices have been driven down by farm raised imported shrimp. The boats
get less per pound now then they did twenty years ago. The last few
years we have been selling 15 count head on shrimp for $7.50 per lb.
After removing head and shell you have about 60% left, that's about
$12.50 per consumable pound for protein. My medium size are about $10
after cleaning.
I get a newsletter about shrimp and one of the large wholesalers in
the Fl. panhandle now has 55 acres of shrimp farming ponds. I'm not sure
how long we will have wild caught shrimp. Early on in shrimp farming
it was said you could get three crops a per years within 15 degrees of
the equator, and only one in the panhandle. I don't know if they have
worked around that problem.
Someone even has a shrimp farm in Michigan.http://www.shrimpfarmmarket.com/
I recall "tiger prawns" being raised in conjunction with flooded rice
fields in Malaysia years ago. Reminded me of a co-worker's dad raising
catfish on the chicken shit his laying hens produced.
spamtrap1888 is auto-killfiled by my system (googlegroups), but he appears,
480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |TLC will do a lot to prolong a house's life, but the materials and
Always fascinating to see a poster expose his id. But I am left to
It sorely needs a rest, as it has no validity legs of its own.
If I open my eyes, they get full of soap, hence, either way, I cannot see
Well, as they say... "The Internet is the world's greatest copy
Hell, people around here think they're walking around wearing wooden
An optically transparent *thermal* interface between the CRT and the
That problem is misstated. In the 1940s a janitor could buy a house andThat isn't a problem in itself, except that it reflects the fact that
wages are flat as a still pond.
No, it is a problem. We have convinced over 50% of Americans that
they should get a 'free ride' from everyone else, or actually get
something more from everyone else. It is a pernicous attitude that
should be stopped!
As I pointed out before, few people made more than the zero bracket
amount during the Depression. Families are no better off than they
were during the Depression. Pay people more, and they will pay more in
taxes.
If only there were organizations for workers to join, to raise their
pay to the point that they could pay more in federal income tax....
More and more people are encouraged to use government relief services
in their everyday lives, and those services are breaking down under
the load.
And nutcases like Bill still don't understand that there is anything
wrong!
Something's terribly wrong when the US economy cannot produce jobs
that will sustain families, for everyone who wants one.
What i see happening is a split between wild caught and farmed like we
That sort of delay is usually created by civil servants looking for a