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On Oct 21, 8:21 pm, "hifi-tek" <t.hoeh...@insightbb.com> wrote:
"rickman" <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On 10/21/2012 6:58 PM, Lord Valve wrote:
dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Oct 19, 3:11 pm, John Larkin<jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/target_8/Volt-no-jolt-LG-Chem-employee....

I'm guessing that they're waiting until mid-November to do the serious
layoffs.

Another green bankcorruptcy:
   http://www.washingtonguardian.com/battery-makers-beltway-power-play
"As it struggled, A123 showered Democrats with donations, hired pricey
lobbyist"

--
Cheers,
James

The O'Butthole Big Fat List of Bogus Green Bullshit:

Evergreen Solar ($24 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($69 million)*
AES's subsidiary Eastern Energy ($17.1 million)
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.5 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel's subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
National Renewable Energy Lab ($200 million)
Fisker Automotive ($528 million)
Abound Solar ($374 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($6 million)
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Schneider Electric ($86 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen's Crop Service and Olsen's Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.4 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
LSP Energy ($2.1 billion)*
UniSolar ($100 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($120 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem's subsidiary Compact Power ($150 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($10 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*

*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.

Source:

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/18/president-obamas-taxpayer-backed-....

...and that's what you can expect from trying to run the
world's biggest economy on unicorn farts and wishful
thinking.

Looks like a better track record than most venture capitalists.  I
understand they are happy with one in ten going the distance.

Rick

You understand wrong. Where I live, I know of 2 venture captalist groups
that aren't happy unless they have a 5 out of 10 positive ROI. 1 in 10
wouldn't fly for long with my groups. They really do their homework before
parting with the money. Obam-bam has a lot of friends needing capital;
unfortunately they are
poor businessmen or outright thieves. He really needs to pick his buds with
a little more care. After all, it is OUR money. Does anyone really know
where the money went at Solyndra?  I for one would like to know how MY money
was pissed away.
Tom
I could tell Solyndra was doomed the first time I went to their
website. Cylindrical cells? There's simply no way they'd EVER
compete. Flat panels are half the price or less, smaller, easier to
make,and easier to use.

I've heard it said that Obama's not picking winners and losers, he
just picks losers.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
 
On Monday, October 22, 2012 12:41:09 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 21, 8:21 pm, "hifi-tek" <t.hoeh...@insightbb.com> wrote:

"rickman" <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote in message



news:k61vm6$dr1$2@dont-email.me...



















On 10/21/2012 6:58 PM, Lord Valve wrote:

dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:



On Oct 19, 3:11 pm, John Larkin<jlar...@highlandtechnology.com

wrote:

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/target_8/Volt-no-jolt-LG-Chem-employee...



I'm guessing that they're waiting until mid-November to do the serious

layoffs.



Another green bankcorruptcy:

   http://www.washingtonguardian.com/battery-makers-beltway-power-play

"As it struggled, A123 showered Democrats with donations, hired pricey

lobbyist"



--

Cheers,

James



The O'Butthole Big Fat List of Bogus Green Bullshit:



Evergreen Solar ($24 million)*

SpectraWatt ($500,000)*

Solyndra ($535 million)*

Beacon Power ($69 million)*

AES's subsidiary Eastern Energy ($17.1 million)

Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)

SunPower ($1.5 billion)

First Solar ($1.46 billion)

Babcock and Brown ($178 million)

EnerDel's subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*

Amonix ($5.9 million)

National Renewable Energy Lab ($200 million)

Fisker Automotive ($528 million)

Abound Solar ($374 million)*

A123 Systems ($279 million)*

Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($6 million)

Johnson Controls ($299 million)

Schneider Electric ($86 million)

Brightsource ($1.6 billion)

ECOtality ($126.2 million)

Raser Technologies ($33 million)*

Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*

Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*

Olsen's Crop Service and Olsen's Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*

Range Fuels ($80 million)*

Thompson River Power ($6.4 million)*

Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*

LSP Energy ($2.1 billion)*

UniSolar ($100 million)*

Azure Dynamics ($120 million)*

GreenVolts ($500,000)

Vestas ($50 million)

LG Chem's subsidiary Compact Power ($150 million)

Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*

Navistar ($10 million)

Satcon ($3 million)*



*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.



Source:



http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/18/president-obamas-taxpayer-backed-...



...and that's what you can expect from trying to run the

world's biggest economy on unicorn farts and wishful

thinking.



Looks like a better track record than most venture capitalists.  I

understand they are happy with one in ten going the distance.



Rick



You understand wrong. Where I live, I know of 2 venture captalist groups

that aren't happy unless they have a 5 out of 10 positive ROI. 1 in 10

wouldn't fly for long with my groups. They really do their homework before

parting with the money. Obam-bam has a lot of friends needing capital;

unfortunately they are

poor businessmen or outright thieves. He really needs to pick his buds with

a little more care. After all, it is OUR money. Does anyone really know

where the money went at Solyndra?  I for one would like to know how MY money

was pissed away.

Tom



I could tell Solyndra was doomed the first time I went to their

website. Cylindrical cells? There's simply no way they'd EVER

compete. Flat panels are half the price or less, smaller, easier to

make,and easier to use.

They weren't half the price at the time and the cylindrical panels were a brilliant solution to the sun tracking problem without moving parts and much more complicated installation. There's a good reason why serious installations use sun tracking, it's called MUCH more energy harvesting. But do you think the sudden drop in price of flat panels was just random coincidence when Solyndra was looking at a multi-billion dollar market for the product???

I've heard it said that Obama's not picking winners and losers, he

just picks losers.
I'm pretty sure President Obama did not micromanage the awards process. If there was anything about the Solyndra process that was remotely indicative of a collapse, DoE would have backed out, but some ventures are just unpredictable.
 
On Monday, October 22, 2012 12:43:07 AM UTC-4, MrTallyman wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:07:28 -0700, John Larkin

jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:



. Fracking has also been implicated in earhtquakes.



Proof that you're an idiot.



If underground nukes didn't trigger earthquakes a few well placed drill

head charges certainly won't.
Uh-huh, and underground nukes were tested in completely different geological areas like Pennsylvania, Texas, Ohio...

Proof that you're an idiot: your post.
 
On 2012-10-20, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:42:11 -0800) it happened Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in <J8Dgs.1184$aW7.1012@newsfe24.iad>:

See similar title in a.b.s.electronic for PDF.
Almost took longer to document than to build..

Nobody can get that group.
freenews.netfront.net carries ABSE but only the smaller posts (not
large binaries)

For the binaries Astraweb.com 180GB $25 never expires. Since march
ABSE has used aboiut 0.68GB, so at that rate I'll be putting it in
my will.

--
⚂⚃ 100% natural

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
 
On a sunny day (22 Oct 2012 07:22:02 GMT) it happened Jasen Betts
<jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote in <k62s6q$jd4$1@reversiblemaps.ath.cx>:

freenews.netfront.net carries ABSE but only the smaller posts (not
large binaries)
OK I see that group, but not his pdf.



For the binaries Astraweb.com 180GB $25 never expires.
Well, I do not need it that much.
 
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:59:25 -0700 (PDT), bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com
wrote:

On Monday, October 22, 2012 12:41:09 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 21, 8:21 pm, "hifi-tek" <t.hoeh...@insightbb.com> wrote:

"rickman" <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote in message



news:k61vm6$dr1$2@dont-email.me...



















On 10/21/2012 6:58 PM, Lord Valve wrote:

dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:



On Oct 19, 3:11 pm, John Larkin<jlar...@highlandtechnology.com

wrote:

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/target_8/Volt-no-jolt-LG-Chem-employee...



I'm guessing that they're waiting until mid-November to do the serious

layoffs.



Another green bankcorruptcy:

   http://www.washingtonguardian.com/battery-makers-beltway-power-play

"As it struggled, A123 showered Democrats with donations, hired pricey

lobbyist"



--

Cheers,

James



The O'Butthole Big Fat List of Bogus Green Bullshit:



Evergreen Solar ($24 million)*

SpectraWatt ($500,000)*

Solyndra ($535 million)*

Beacon Power ($69 million)*

AES's subsidiary Eastern Energy ($17.1 million)

Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)

SunPower ($1.5 billion)

First Solar ($1.46 billion)

Babcock and Brown ($178 million)

EnerDel's subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*

Amonix ($5.9 million)

National Renewable Energy Lab ($200 million)

Fisker Automotive ($528 million)

Abound Solar ($374 million)*

A123 Systems ($279 million)*

Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($6 million)

Johnson Controls ($299 million)

Schneider Electric ($86 million)

Brightsource ($1.6 billion)

ECOtality ($126.2 million)

Raser Technologies ($33 million)*

Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*

Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*

Olsen's Crop Service and Olsen's Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*

Range Fuels ($80 million)*

Thompson River Power ($6.4 million)*

Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*

LSP Energy ($2.1 billion)*

UniSolar ($100 million)*

Azure Dynamics ($120 million)*

GreenVolts ($500,000)

Vestas ($50 million)

LG Chem's subsidiary Compact Power ($150 million)

Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*

Navistar ($10 million)

Satcon ($3 million)*



*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.



Source:



http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/18/president-obamas-taxpayer-backed-...



...and that's what you can expect from trying to run the

world's biggest economy on unicorn farts and wishful

thinking.



Looks like a better track record than most venture capitalists.  I

understand they are happy with one in ten going the distance.



Rick



You understand wrong. Where I live, I know of 2 venture captalist groups

that aren't happy unless they have a 5 out of 10 positive ROI. 1 in 10

wouldn't fly for long with my groups. They really do their homework before

parting with the money. Obam-bam has a lot of friends needing capital;

unfortunately they are

poor businessmen or outright thieves. He really needs to pick his buds with

a little more care. After all, it is OUR money. Does anyone really know

where the money went at Solyndra?  I for one would like to know how MY money

was pissed away.

Tom



I could tell Solyndra was doomed the first time I went to their

website. Cylindrical cells? There's simply no way they'd EVER

compete. Flat panels are half the price or less, smaller, easier to

make,and easier to use.



They weren't half the price at the time and the cylindrical panels were a
brilliant solution to the sun tracking problem without moving parts and
much more complicated installation.
I can't believe an engineer wrote the above. You are an engineer, right?

There's a good reason why serious installations use sun tracking,
Sure, but cylindrical cells don't do it.


it's called MUCH more energy harvesting.
Nope! *EXACTLY* the same energy falls on the cells per m^2.

But do you think the sudden drop in price of flat panels was just random
coincidence when Solyndra was looking at a multi-billion dollar market
for the product???
No, that was the *direction*. Sudden? Bloogs, stop drinking the KoolAid.
I've heard it said that Obama's not picking winners and losers, he

just picks losers.

I'm pretty sure President Obama did not micromanage the awards process.
You are WRONG. It was run by his political arm, just as everything else is in
the administration. Wake up, Bloggs.

If there was anything about the Solyndra process that was remotely
indicative of a collapse, DoE would have backed out, but some ventures
are just unpredictable.
DOE recommended just that. Stop with the ObamaAid, Blogggs. It's fried your
brain.
 
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:16:58 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, October 22, 2012 12:07:42 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:56:24 -0700 (PDT),

bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:



On Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:10:09 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:21:52 -0700 (PDT),



























The real energy breakthrough has been fracking, privately developed,







privately funded. There is now a glut of natural gas in the USA, and







we will likely be a net oil exporter soon.











Once again you're dumber than dumb ignorant. Didya know quite a lot of fracking came to a grinding halt during this year's drought?







New drilling for fracking gas has almost stopped because fracking has



made gas so cheap. See today's New York Times. A lot of the fracking



rigs are being moved over to oil.



and what is this- a fairy tale:

http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/31/news/economy/drought-oil-us/index.htm









Fracking is a major environmental pollutant as well as a massive



waste of natural resource needed for more essential agricultural



production.



http://www.pacinst.org/reports/fracking/











Silly left coast loonies. The pollution is tiny compared to mining and



burning coal. And, once a well is in, the land area used is tiny too.



That is a bunch of bull and you know. Underground aquifers and their feeds by surface and subsurface cracks are un-mappable!



Fracking happens deep. I don't think any aquifers have been polluted.



The pollution issue is known to be there and is impossible to predict beforehand. They use more than water for fracking. Fracking has also been implicated in earhtquakes.





Like, mag 3 quakes. You can barely feel a mag 3.

Maybe, but it's enough to damage foundations, roads, and nuclear power plants.




But hey, all energy is dangerous. Fracking natural gas seems safer

than a lot of others.

Many thousands of incidents of health hazards documented:
http://waterdefense.org/content/fracking




You have to keep mining coal. Once a gas well is in, the gas comes up

safely, quietly, continuously.















What's *really* wasting farmland and water is turning corn - food! -



into ethanol. It's hurting - killing - a lot of people, too, by



driving up the worldwide cost of food. That criminal abomination is by



government decree and government subsidy.



I already brought that issue up before when someone quoted that jackass engineer authored article by an Argonne lackey!









You seem to be getting crazier and crazier. Go for a walk or



something.



I only seem that way to a superficial mentality like yours. I know far more about the subject than you do. There are viable agricultural sources that can be used sustainably for energy production. ADF has a big government grant to hybridize hazelnut for oil production, the yield per acre is much higher and than oil is of much higher density, and these plantations can be established in regions that do not grow food staples.

http://downloads.cas.psu.edu/RenewableEnergy/presentations/thomasMolnar0808.pdf

http://www.arborday.org/shopping/memberships/hazelnut/

http://www.arborday.org/programs/hazelnuts/consortium/



Government grant? That proves viability? Hilarious.


The particular parties involved here have a historically LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG and and successful track record. You have no respect for anything because you're a smartass.
I respect things that work. I respect people who work, too.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
 
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:43:05 -0700, MrTallyman
<MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:07:28 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

. Fracking has also been implicated in earhtquakes.

Proof that you're an idiot.

If underground nukes didn't trigger earthquakes a few well placed drill
head charges certainly won't.
Fracking does produce tiny earthquakes. Not enough to spill much beer.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
 
On Oct 21, 12:20 pm, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 19, 12:49 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:

http://blogs.nbc12.com/decisionvirginia/2012/10/arr.html

Okay, 8 ballots, by a lone wolf.  He's in jail.  Good.

Who's doing what about this?

 http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/100312-628015-obama-ignores-...

55k in FL, 30k in VA, 20k in OH, etc.  By odd coincidence, if you read

the source report, it's swing states that are most affected.

James Arthur

That story is more deceptive misrepresentation. /Every/ absentee voter has access to FVAP online, they do not need a physical office.http://www.fvap..gov/
That would've been handy for my buddy, just back from doing route
clearance from his FOB in the 'Stan. As he was walking ahead of his
Buffalo, picking up IEDs off the road with his bare hands, he could've
logged onto some federal <expletive> website and done whatever.

If military registration is down in swing states, it is because the neo-Nazi unit commanders are not pushing it to units who they know consist of minority personnel. So it looks the story has back-fired on you.
Um, "minorities" don't make up most of the military. They're not even
particularly over-represented. So, that doesn't add up.

Check it out if you want: https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/Rank_Gender_Race.xls

The real scandal here is just more minority voter suppression by the neo-Nazi eugenicists.
Apparently it's just a coincidence that only 1/3rd as many military
personnel are requesting absentee ballots, compared to 2008.

http://watchdog.org/55187/va-military-absentee-ballots-going-awol-in-2012/

Suddenly soldiers overseas--currently polling 59% Romney--aren't
interested in voting? Yep, that makes sense.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
 
On Oct 21, 11:54 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-
My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 06:05:39 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Oct 19, 12:49 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:
http://blogs.nbc12.com/decisionvirginia/2012/10/arr.html

Okay, 8 ballots, by a lone wolf.  He's in jail.  Good.

Who's doing what about this?
 http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/100312-628015-obama-ignores-...

55k in FL, 30k in VA, 20k in OH, etc.  By odd coincidence, if you read
the source report, it's swing states that are most affected.

James Arthur

Sonnuva gun. Who would have guessed ?>:-}
Not to worry, Eric the Holder's all over it. After the election,
anyhow.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
 
On 10/22/2012 10:54 AM, edvogel56@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, October 19, 2012 8:03:17 AM UTC-5, edvo...@gmail.com wrote:
Anybody have some experiences they would like to share regarding the design of film heaters? I am working on (with?) one that is heating to a modest 37C but needs to be plus or minus half a degree Centigrade across the 4" x 4" surface. My contention is that the trace (and therefore heat density) needs to be higher at the edges than the center.



My other contention is that if you are going to design a heater a complete analysis of everything the heater is contact with is in order.



My contentions remain contentious if not in actual contempt as of this writing ;-)

Thanks! I remember working with Minco in the late 80s on a "profiled" heater. I was sure they had a nice summary of the design process somewhere.

EdV
Still not going to cut it unless you can put a really sharp bound on the
gradients due to external forcing.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
On Oct 21, 12:30 pm, "tm" <No_one_h...@white-house.gov> wrote:
bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com> wrote

On Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 19, 12:49 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:

http://blogs.nbc12.com/decisionvirginia/2012/10/arr.html

Okay, 8 ballots, by a lone wolf.  He's in jail.  Good.

Who's doing what about this?

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/100312-628015-obama-ignores-...

55k in FL, 30k in VA, 20k in OH, etc.  By odd coincidence, if you read

the source report, it's swing states that are most affected.

James Arthur

That story is more deceptive misrepresentation. /Every/ absentee voter has
access to FVAP online, they do not need a physical office.http://www.fvap..gov/
If military registration is down in swing states, it is because the neo-Nazi
unit commanders are not pushing it to units who they know consist of
minority personnel. So it looks the story has back-fired on you. The real
scandal here is just more minority voter suppression by the neo-Nazi
eugenicists.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Man, you are one crazy MF. Do you work for the oboma campaign? How much are
you getting paid?
"I do solemnly swear or affirm that I will faithfully execute the
Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my
Ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United
States."

Simply refusing to enforce laws violates the President's oath of
office. Military people pledge their lives to defend the
Constitution. They understand honor.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
 
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 07:53:02 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

It's funny that O accused R "you would have let GM go bankrupt"

GM did go bankrupt.

Under specially designed Obama rules. The Unions get to be first in
line, though they had no stake. Great plan for the future of
investing.
And the engineers lost their pensions.


--

Reply in group, but if emailing add one more
zero, and remove the last word.
 
On Oct 21, 6:59 pm, Lord Valve <detri...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 19, 3:11 pm, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com
wrote:
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/target_8/Volt-no-jolt-LG-Chem-employee....

I'm guessing that they're waiting until mid-November to do the serious
layoffs.

Another green bankcorruptcy:
 http://www.washingtonguardian.com/battery-makers-beltway-power-play
"As it struggled, A123 showered Democrats with donations, hired pricey
lobbyist"


The O'Butthole Big Fat List of Bogus Green Bullshit:

Evergreen Solar ($24 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($69 million)*
AES's subsidiary Eastern Energy ($17.1 million)
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.5 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel's subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
National Renewable Energy Lab ($200 million)
Fisker Automotive ($528 million)
Abound Solar ($374 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($6 million)
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Schneider Electric ($86 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen's Crop Service and Olsen's Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.4 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
LSP Energy ($2.1 billion)*
UniSolar ($100 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($120 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem's subsidiary Compact Power ($150 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($10 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*

*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.

Source:

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/18/president-obamas-taxpayer-backed-...

...and that's what you can expect from trying to run the
world's biggest economy on unicorn farts and wishful
thinking.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Life in the People's Republic of Obamastan's fuckin' grand,
ain't it?

Change *is* coming. Hope you assholes can take it.  If not,
enjoy the camps. 270 million people were murdered by leftists
in the last century.  Think they're finished yet?

Think YOU are immune?

Got guns?  BUY AMMO!

Lord Valve
American - so far
Nice list. Here's a tally of green jobs:
http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/maritanoon/2012/10/14/obamas_green_jobs_promise_355_jobs_and_counting/page/full/

In fact, it's a pretty good snapshot of the futility / total waste we
lovingly call "the stimulus." Synopsis: a) the money's gone b) it
didn't work.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
 
On Monday, October 22, 2012 9:08:58 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 21, 12:30 pm, "tm" <No_one_h...@white-house.gov> wrote:

bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com> wrote



On Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Oct 19, 12:49 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:



http://blogs.nbc12.com/decisionvirginia/2012/10/arr.html



Okay, 8 ballots, by a lone wolf.  He's in jail.  Good.



Who's doing what about this?



http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/100312-628015-obama-ignores-....



55k in FL, 30k in VA, 20k in OH, etc.  By odd coincidence, if you read



the source report, it's swing states that are most affected.



James Arthur



That story is more deceptive misrepresentation. /Every/ absentee voter has

access to FVAP online, they do not need a physical office.http://www.fvap.gov/

If military registration is down in swing states, it is because the neo-Nazi

unit commanders are not pushing it to units who they know consist of

minority personnel. So it looks the story has back-fired on you. The real

scandal here is just more minority voter suppression by the neo-Nazi

eugenicists.



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Man, you are one crazy MF. Do you work for the oboma campaign? How much are

you getting paid?



"I do solemnly swear or affirm that I will faithfully execute the

Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my

Ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United

States."



Simply refusing to enforce laws violates the President's oath of

office. Military people pledge their lives to defend the

Constitution. They understand honor.
Giving waivers for redundant and unnecessary legal requirements is NOT the same as not enforcing laws. Do you have any legal education at all? I don't think so. Not enforcing the law is doing things like attaching Presidential signing statements to enactments of Congress, like Bush did over 700 times, a historical precedent for this country, which in effect state the executive branch will not implement this or that provision of the law.
 
On Monday, October 22, 2012 8:49:30 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 21, 12:20 pm, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Oct 19, 12:49 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:



http://blogs.nbc12.com/decisionvirginia/2012/10/arr.html



Okay, 8 ballots, by a lone wolf.  He's in jail.  Good.



Who's doing what about this?



 http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/100312-628015-obama-ignores-...



55k in FL, 30k in VA, 20k in OH, etc.  By odd coincidence, if you read



the source report, it's swing states that are most affected.



James Arthur



That story is more deceptive misrepresentation. /Every/ absentee voter has access to FVAP online, they do not need a physical office.http://www.fvap.gov/



That would've been handy for my buddy, just back from doing route

clearance from his FOB in the 'Stan. As he was walking ahead of his

Buffalo, picking up IEDs off the road with his bare hands, he could've

logged onto some federal <expletive> website and done whatever.
That's a FAKE testimonial if I ever heard one...


If military registration is down in swing states, it is because the neo-Nazi unit commanders are not pushing it to units who they know consist of minority personnel. So it looks the story has back-fired on you.



Um, "minorities" don't make up most of the military. They're not even

particularly over-represented. So, that doesn't add up.



Check it out if you want: https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/Rank_Gender_Race.xls



The real scandal here is just more minority voter suppression by the neo-Nazi eugenicists.



Apparently it's just a coincidence that only 1/3rd as many military

personnel are requesting absentee ballots, compared to 2008.



http://watchdog.org/55187/va-military-absentee-ballots-going-awol-in-2012/



Suddenly soldiers overseas--currently polling 59% Romney--aren't

interested in voting? Yep, that makes sense.
 
On Monday, October 22, 2012 8:49:30 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 21, 12:20 pm, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Oct 19, 12:49 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:



http://blogs.nbc12.com/decisionvirginia/2012/10/arr.html



Okay, 8 ballots, by a lone wolf.  He's in jail.  Good.



Who's doing what about this?



 http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/100312-628015-obama-ignores-...



55k in FL, 30k in VA, 20k in OH, etc.  By odd coincidence, if you read



the source report, it's swing states that are most affected.



James Arthur



That story is more deceptive misrepresentation. /Every/ absentee voter has access to FVAP online, they do not need a physical office.http://www.fvap.gov/



That would've been handy for my buddy, just back from doing route

clearance from his FOB in the 'Stan. As he was walking ahead of his

Buffalo, picking up IEDs off the road with his bare hands, he could've

logged onto some federal <expletive> website and done whatever.



If military registration is down in swing states, it is because the neo-Nazi unit commanders are not pushing it to units who they know consist of minority personnel. So it looks the story has back-fired on you.



Um, "minorities" don't make up most of the military. They're not even

particularly over-represented. So, that doesn't add up.



Check it out if you want: https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/Rank_Gender_Race.xls



The real scandal here is just more minority voter suppression by the neo-Nazi eugenicists.



Apparently it's just a coincidence that only 1/3rd as many military

personnel are requesting absentee ballots, compared to 2008.



http://watchdog.org/55187/va-military-absentee-ballots-going-awol-in-2012/



Suddenly soldiers overseas--currently polling 59% Romney--aren't

interested in voting? Yep, that makes sense.
Now you're starting to post a bunch of blatant lies. And you can't interpret statistics or vet your sources of information well.
 
On Oct 22, 12:36 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, October 22, 2012 12:27:49 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 21, 12:32 pm, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:00:26 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Oct 19, 3:11 pm, John Larkin <jlar...@highlandtechnology.com

wrote:

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/target_8/Volt-no-jolt-LG-Chem-employee...

I'm guessing that they're waiting until mid-November to do the serious

layoffs.

Another green bankcorruptcy:

 http://www.washingtonguardian.com/battery-makers-beltway-power-play

"As it struggled, A123 showered Democrats with donations, hired pricey

lobbyist"

That's tells us absolutely nothing new about how Federal grant money is acquired. Both Republican and Democrat politicians were pushing for that company. So your post is just another lie.

You're missing the bigger point--once the federal government has the

power to confiscate people's money and speculate use it to speculate,

that's what happens.  There's no avoiding it--that's what people

always do with a pot of other people's money: fight.

That's why the Founding dudes set up a federal gov't that's only

supposed to do certain listed things, not take our liberty, jobs, and

labor to blindly speculate in bogus tech companies.

These were government investments made to create jobs and stimulate the economy, they were not made to enrich cronies, unlike some of the Bush administration purchases. Care to explain just how A123 was bogus, what was the sham there?
The sham is that nobody needed that. The people are supposed to
decide those things, not Feds.

Taking our money to support A123, the gov't makes it harder for us to
support other, better things that people really want. Harder to
support ourselves, too.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
 
On Monday, October 22, 2012 9:17:07 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

Synopsis: a) the money's gone b) it

didn't work.
Sounds like a summary of the last Republican administration's attempt at nation building...
 
On Oct 22, 9:20 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, October 22, 2012 8:49:30 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Oct 21, 12:20 pm, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:05:39 AM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Oct 19, 12:49 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:

http://blogs.nbc12.com/decisionvirginia/2012/10/arr.html

Okay, 8 ballots, by a lone wolf.  He's in jail.  Good.

Who's doing what about this?

 http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/100312-628015-obama-ignores-...

55k in FL, 30k in VA, 20k in OH, etc.  By odd coincidence, if you read

the source report, it's swing states that are most affected.

James Arthur

That story is more deceptive misrepresentation. /Every/ absentee voter has access to FVAP online, they do not need a physical office.http://www.fvap.gov/

That would've been handy for my buddy, just back from doing route
clearance from his FOB in the 'Stan. As he was walking ahead of his
Buffalo, picking up IEDs off the road with his bare hands, he could've
logged onto some federal <expletive> website and done whatever.

That's a FAKE testimonial if I ever heard one...
It's absolutely true. I talk to him several times a day. I'm
grateful each and every day that he's back, intact.

You keep making up narratives to explain away the real facts, like
reincarnating Nazi eugenicists to supposedly suppress military
voters. I don't understand that.

Best,
James Arthur
 

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