Driver to drive?

On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:01:42 PM UTC-4, josephkk wrote:

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:30:31 -0700 (PDT), bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com

wrote:





That's a joke rationale that's been around for a while now. I think some jackass who owns a nationwide pizza chain came out with it first. Here's the deal on these low life scoundrels: the public is picking up their employees' health care through the medicaid for which they qualify. The idea with Obamacare is to shift this burden away from the general tax payer and into the private sector. Which private sector is that you ask? It is the friggin customers of these cut-throat businesses screwing their employees and the American taxpayer by not providing health insurance just so they can make a price point for their customers. If their customers don't want to pay the nominal increase then let the market rule and put the business and its so-called services out to pasture. Obamacare was designed by people with long experience and extreme expertise in the health industry economics sector. They know quite a bit more than some shmo hawking junk food, dontcha think?



You are hellishly mistaken about who designed it and what its objectives

are.



?-)

It actually moves more of the burden of managing health insurance into the private sector. The government is no more than a regulator.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/09/opinion/carroll-health-care-act/index.html?iref=allsearch

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:00:56 -0700, josephkk
joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:59:42 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:
With Obamacare, we'll all have insurance, but not medical care.

An extraordinarily succinct and concise summation.

Yet another summary by a doctor running for office:
"Obamacare Summed Up in One Sentence"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdnY8r7_fLw

It sounds like she knows exactly what she's talking about.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Phil Hobbs wrote:

Martin Brown wrote:

On 20/09/2012 10:28, josephkk wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:21:46 +0100, Martin Brown
|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:


The notes for expats in English make clear what insurances you should
have and how much it costs (comparatively little). The consequences of
not having it can be disastrous if someone claims against you.

What's illegal worker insurance? Or 3rd party claims insurance?
These are foreign to me.

OK. They do need some explanation but the concepts are simple.

If you employ someone (even *illegally* as some rich expats tend to do
for cleaners and gardeners) then you are automatically liable for any
injuries that they suffer on their way to work upto and including death
in a car crash. Belgian roads are pretty dangerous with a mix of
"priorite a droite" and normal junctions. You will also be sued by the
state for employing illegal worker(s) if you get caught as well.

The other is if for example you fail to clear the path in front of your
house of snow or a workman falls off your roof and is injured they can
sue you. Belgians think nothing of suing neighbours this way.

Crikey, and everybody complains about how litigious 'murcans are. Sounds
like the primary national pastime there.

?-)

Not particularly - they only sue over *real* injuries as opposed to
coffee being too hot or being frightened by seeing the word "asbestos".

Napoleonic code is rather different to UK and US law so as an expat you
have to be aware of the most important differences.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

I have no sympathy for McDonald's in that particular case.

If you Google for what injuries the poor woman suffered from the
nearly-boiling McDonald's coffee, you'd be a bit more sympathetic.
Hint: it landed directly in her lap. Third degree burns to the pink
bits, covering a wide area. She was over 80, and never really
recovered. (See e.g.
http://www.vanosteen.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.htm .)

McD's had had over 700 reports of burns from their coffee (served in
large foam cups that become very unstable when they're that hot), and
had settled many of them for real money. And their corporate standard
temperature coffee was a good 20 degrees hotter than other places'.

The award was just under $3M, which seems pretty reasonable for a
pattern of gross negligence like that. US tort law is a mess, but that
case came out about right.

Come on, Phil. The US never does anything right, in his America
hating eyes.

 

On Sep 18, 10:23 pm, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:04:44 PM UTC-4, Jon Kirwan wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:43:49 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

On Sep 18, 11:31 pm, "tm" <No_one_h...@white-house.gov> wrote:

"Martin Brown" <|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

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On 18/09/2012 16:22, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Martin Brown wrote:

  The USA is also populated

now with vastly overweight unfit hypochondriacs which doesn't help.

    If we aren't careful, we'll catch up with Europe in that sad race.

America is the undisputed world leader in fat unfit hypochondriacs..

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity

http://www.gallup.com/poll/156707/majority-overweight-obese-states.as...

The majority of Americans are now overweight with only a minority having

what is considered a normal healthy body weight.

--

Regards,

Martin Brown

My goal is to die of a heart attack, a stroke, cancer, and kidney and liver

failure, all at the same time. Anytime after 85 YRs

Then you'd better move to Monaco.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder....

tells us that that the only country where more than half the

population survives past 85 - they survive on average for 89.68 years.

Even there, it probably only the women who have a better than even

chance of surviving past 85.

I'm moving back to Australia in a month, where average age of death is

apparently 81.90 - which puts us nineth on the list.

The US is 50th, with an average life expectancy of 78.49 year.

See:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco

   "Monaco levies no income tax on individuals. The

    absence of a personal income tax in the principality

    has attracted to it a considerable number of wealthy

    'tax refugee' residents from European countries who

    derive the majority of their income from activity

    outside Monaco."

Wealth is HIGHLY correlated to life expectancy.

Jon

And to whom do you attribute that completely inaccurate observation? It must be predicated on being a member of the sedentary population. You obviously never lived in the country or the mountains. There are plenty of men who live to nearly 100 and spent a lifetime doing menial low paying labor, but they were well nourished and lived free of the toxins of industrialized society. Heck, some of them are still procreating at 85, and many don't even begin regular doctor visits until their mid-70s. And these people were far from living the health nut lifestyle, smoking and drinking, eating lots of red fat marbled meat, butter, cream, sugar, etc.

In my neck of the woods, we've got an 80-something city-worker
gentleman mowing and tending the medians, and another the same for
local businesses. They're sharp, stand straight, and shoot straight
too.

What I got from Jon's post is that longevity is strongly, inversely
correlated with income tax.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur

 

On Sep 19, 9:50 pm, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sep 19, 2:41 pm, Phil Hobbs wrote:

It's really sad to see people trying desperate measures to try to keep
Mom or Dad (or themselves) around, when there's no prospect of returning
to health or even freedom from pain.

But in the US there's no legal alternative.

Where did you get that idea?  Google for "living will" and "health care
proxy".

If you're terminal, suffering, and want to die, doctors and nurses
will quietly help you.

I'm not naming names, but it's common.

It was the families of charity cases that a former g.f. saw in her ICU
that routinely insisted that no expense be spared, most especially in
hopeless cases. And, they were most likely to sue, making everyone
skittish, and practice medicine defensively, lest they get sued.

--
James Arthur

 

On Sep 20, 11:44 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:01:42 PM UTC-4, josephkk wrote:
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:30:31 -0700 (PDT), bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com

wrote:

That's a joke rationale that's been around for a while now. I think some jackass who owns a nationwide pizza chain came out with it first. Here's the deal on these low life scoundrels: the public is picking up their employees' health care  through the medicaid for which they qualify. The idea with Obamacare is to shift this burden away from the general tax payer and into the private sector. Which private sector is that you ask? It is the friggin customers of these cut-throat businesses screwing their employees and the American taxpayer by not providing health insurance just so they can make a price point for their customers. If their customers don't want to pay the nominal increase then let the market rule and put the business and its so-called services out to pasture. Obamacare was designed by people with long experience and extreme expertise in the health industry economics sector. They know quite a bit more than some shmo hawking junk food, dontcha think?

You are hellishly mistaken about who designed it and what its objectives

are.

?-)

It actually moves more of the burden of managing health insurance into the private sector. The government is no more than a regulator.http://www.cnn..com/2012/08/09/opinion/carroll-health-care-act/index.h...

That article-writer starts off by saying the latest ten-year estimate
is $1 trillion. No, that's what 0bama promised. The latest 10-year
CBO estimate is $2.6 trillion. And, it's grossly understated, due to
their static-scoring mandate.

He's completely wrong about it shifting cost onto private sector--the
restauranteurs' incentive is to dump their employees onto the
Obamacare dole. That costs them $2k in penaltax, but saves the cost
of a policy, plus another $2k worth of Obamacare b.s., liability, new
causes of action, etc.

The author gets lost in the nonsense, and miscalculates. It's the
government in between that creates the burden, and drops the
efficiency to 0.5 or so.

They belittle the impact, but the pizza guy makes like $13k/restaurant.
[1][2] Adding $2k per employee changes that rather drastically.
People will lose their jobs. Fewer people will buy their product.
And more people will be on the dole for both reasons.

[1] projecting $52M profit, on 4,000 restaurants.
[2] http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-papa-johns-pizza-obamacare-20120808,0,3420509.story?track=rss

Try reading H.R. 3590 sect. 1311, and add up the burden O/C imposes on
state exchanges alone. HHS has to approve the /forms/ states use.
"Culturally and linguistically appropriate?" That by itself defeats
the American melting pot, which action can by itself destroy the
Republic.

It's full of fish like that.

Economically it'll implode in short order, whether we game it or not
(and we certainly will). It's kind of like the sequoia that broke the
camel's back.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sep 21, 1:16 am, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Sep 19, 9:50 pm, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sep 19, 2:41 pm, Phil Hobbs wrote:
It's really sad to see people trying desperate measures to try to keep
Mom or Dad (or themselves) around, when there's no prospect of returning
to health or even freedom from pain.

But in the US there's no legal alternative.

Where did you get that idea?  Google for "living will" and "health care
proxy".

If you're terminal, suffering, and want to die, doctors and nurses
will quietly help you.

I'm not naming names, but it's common.

But not common enough. And the fact that it is as common as it is let
Harold Shipman kill some 250 of his patients before anybody noticed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman

It was the families of charity cases that a former g.f. saw in her ICU
that routinely insisted that no expense be spared, most especially in
hopeless cases.  And, they were most likely to sue, making everyone
skittish, and practice medicine defensively, lest they get sued.

And she's a former girl friend because she got tired of you
reinterpreting what she said in a way that conformed with your right-
wing political delusions?

Charity cases are most often charity cases because they aren't all
that clever and never got to be particularly well-educated. They can
take a while to understand what "brain-dead" means.

My mother's cousin Dora had a massive stroke more than a decade ago,
and was initially kept alive by a mechanical ventilator while the
doctors checked out the state of her brain stem. When they'd worked
out that she was brain dead, they wanted to turn off the ventilator.
Her kids understood the situation and appreciated that it wouldn't
make any practical difference to Dora's state, but her Romanian second
husband (and the father of her kids) who had been brought up in rural
Romania during WW2, couldn't really appreciate that there was
absolutely no chance that she could ever breath for herself again, let
alone wake up. It took a while for the rest of the family to get him
past his grief and shock to a correct comprehension of the real
situation, so that he could give permission to turn the machine off.

I wasn't in Australia at the time, but my parents got peripherally
involved, and talked about the experience the next time I was out
there. They liked the husband, and had understood his dilemma.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sep 21, 2:16 am, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Sep 20, 11:44 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:01:42 PM UTC-4, josephkk wrote:
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:30:31 -0700 (PDT), bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com

wrote:

<snip>

The author gets lost in the nonsense, and miscalculates.  It's the
government in between that creates the burden, and drops the
efficiency to 0.5 or so.

So how come the UK National Health Service, which is wholly government
run, delivers better health care - averaged over the entire UK
population - than the US system at about half the price per head.

The Dutch, German and French health services give everybody
essentially the same level of health care as enjoyed by fully insured
US citizens at two thirds of the price per head. There the people
selling the health insurance aren't part of the government, but what
they offer is tightly regulated by the governments involved, rather
than the invisible hand of the market.

The free market is an excellent way of distributing resources for a
lot of activities, but health care doesn't seem to be one of them, any
more than defence or law enforcement.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sep 21, 1:07 am, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Sep 18, 10:23 pm, bloggs.fredbloggs.f...@gmail.com wrote:









On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:04:44 PM UTC-4, Jon Kirwan wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:43:49 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:

On Sep 18, 11:31 pm, "tm" <No_one_h...@white-house.gov> wrote:

"Martin Brown" <|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

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On 18/09/2012 16:22, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Martin Brown wrote:

  The USA is also populated
now with vastly overweight unfit hypochondriacs which doesn't help.
    If we aren't careful, we'll catch up with Europe in that sad race.
America is the undisputed world leader in fat unfit hypochondriacs.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity

http://www.gallup.com/poll/156707/majority-overweight-obese-states.as...

The majority of Americans are now overweight with only a minority having
what is considered a normal healthy body weight.


My goal is to die of a heart attack, a stroke, cancer, and kidney and liver
failure, all at the same time. Anytime after 85 YRs

Then you'd better move to Monaco.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder...

tells us that that the only country where more than half the
population survives past 85 - they survive on average for 89.68 years.
Even there, it probably only the women who have a better than even
chance of surviving past 85.

I'm moving back to Australia in a month, where average age of death is
apparently 81.90 - which puts us nineth on the list.

The US is 50th, with an average life expectancy of 78.49 year.

See:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monaco

   "Monaco levies no income tax on individuals. The
    absence of a personal income tax in the principality
    has attracted to it a considerable number of wealthy
    'tax refugee' residents from European countries who
    derive the majority of their income from activity
    outside Monaco."

Wealth is HIGHLY correlated to life expectancy.

And to whom do you attribute that completely inaccurate observation? It must be predicated on being a member of the sedentary population. You obviously never lived in the country or the mountains. There are plenty of men who live to nearly 100 and spent a lifetime doing menial low paying labour, but they were well nourished and lived free of the toxins of industrialized society. Heck, some of them are still procreating at 85, and many don't even begin regular doctor visits until their mid-70s. And these people were far from living the health nut lifestyle, smoking and drinking, eating lots of red fat marbled meat, butter, cream, sugar, etc.

In my neck of the woods, we've got an 80-something city-worker
gentleman mowing and tending the medians, and  another the same for
local businesses.  They're sharp, stand straight, and shoot straight
too.

What I got from Jon's post is that longevity is strongly, inversely
correlated with income tax.  

You would. However, correlation is not causation.

My suggestion that tm should move to Monaco was not seriously
intended. Monaco may not charge income tax, but it isn't a cheap place
to live. " Monaco has high social insurance taxes payable by both
employer and employee. The employer's contribution is between 28%–40%
(averaging 35%) of gross salary including benefits and the employee
pays a further 10%–14% (averaging 13%).[122]"

You wouldn't like that.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

On Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:20:48 AM UTC+8, Gary Lecomte wrote:

I am currently designing "A pulse Induction metal detector" that runs
of a "Single 12 volt sealed lead acid battery" or equivalent (with no
less than 11.2 volts) The unit is already built and I'm now testing it
and drafting the schematic. All IC's and transistors are readily
available, with one possible exception. An TI part REG1117a which is a
"SOP" Pkg Low Dropout Regulator! (Surface Mount Device) Other IC's are
TL081, MC555, LT1054, 79L05, 78L05. Circuit board is 2 1/2 in. * 4 5/8
in., single sided and has 265 holes. It has capability of "one" or
"two" search coils. When using two coils, one is used to reject
unwanted interference.

If their is reasonable interest from people on here, I will post it on
my Web Page as soon as it is complete.

So if interested, e-mail me or reply on here!

Also, Any Questions, Just Ask!

Gary........ http://www3.telus.net/chemelec

I own gold metal detectors and when I went to the beach I always took them there and they can give me some surprises. and I also can take it to the park to or find the metal goods, such as coins and so on. It has also helped find the ring that I lost in the garden,this is really great.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sep 21, 8:43 am, danielleblatch...@aol.com wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:20:48 AM UTC+8, Gary Lecomte wrote:
I am currently designing "A pulse Induction metal detector" that runs
of a "Single 12 volt sealed lead acid battery" or equivalent (with no
less than 11.2 volts) The unit is already built and I'm now testing it
and drafting the schematic. All IC's and transistors are readily
available, with one possible exception. An TI part REG1117a which is a
"SOP" Pkg Low Dropout Regulator! (Surface Mount Device) Other IC's are
TL081, MC555, LT1054, 79L05, 78L05. Circuit board is 2 1/2 in. * 4 5/8
in., single sided and has 265 holes. It has capability of "one" or
"two" search coils. When using two coils, one is used to reject
unwanted interference.

If their is reasonable interest from people on here, I will post it on
my Web Page as soon as it is complete.

So if interested, e-mail me or reply on here!

Also, Any Questions, Just Ask!

Gary........http://www3.telus.net/chemelec

I own gold metal detectors and when I went to the beach I always took them there and they can give me some surprises. and I also can take it to the park to or find the metal goods, such as coins and so on. It has also helped find the ring that I lost in the garden,this is really great.

Weird. A new post to a ten-year-old thread.

That's about how long it takes the metal detector to pay for itself, if
you don't count the labour.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sep 21, 8:43 am, danielleblatch...@aol.com wrote:

On Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:20:48 AM UTC+8, Gary Lecomte wrote:
I am currently designing "A pulse Induction metal detector" that runs
of a "Single 12 volt sealed lead acid battery" or equivalent (with no
less than 11.2 volts) The unit is already built and I'm now testing it
and drafting the schematic. All IC's and transistors are readily
available, with one possible exception. An TI part REG1117a which is a
"SOP" Pkg Low Dropout Regulator! (Surface Mount Device) Other IC's are
TL081, MC555, LT1054, 79L05, 78L05. Circuit board is 2 1/2 in. * 4 5/8
in., single sided and has 265 holes. It has capability of "one" or
"two" search coils. When using two coils, one is used to reject
unwanted interference.

If their is reasonable interest from people on here, I will post it on
my Web Page as soon as it is complete.

So if interested, e-mail me or reply on here!

Also, Any Questions, Just Ask!

Gary........http://www3.telus.net/chemelec

I own gold metal detectors and when I went to the beach I always took them there and they can give me some surprises. and I also can take it to the park to or find the metal goods, such as coins and so on. It has also helped find the ring that I lost in the garden,this is really great.

Weird. A new post to a ten-year-old thread.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Fred Bartoli]

Phil Hobbs a écrit :

Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sep 21, 8:43 am, danielleblatch...@aol.com wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:20:48 AM UTC+8, Gary Lecomte wrote:
I am currently designing "A pulse Induction metal detector" that runs
of a "Single 12 volt sealed lead acid battery" or equivalent (with no
less than 11.2 volts) The unit is already built and I'm now testing it
and drafting the schematic. All IC's and transistors are readily
available, with one possible exception. An TI part REG1117a which is a
"SOP" Pkg Low Dropout Regulator! (Surface Mount Device) Other IC's are
TL081, MC555, LT1054, 79L05, 78L05. Circuit board is 2 1/2 in. * 4 5/8
in., single sided and has 265 holes. It has capability of "one" or
"two" search coils. When using two coils, one is used to reject
unwanted interference.
If their is reasonable interest from people on here, I will post it on
my Web Page as soon as it is complete.
So if interested, e-mail me or reply on here!
Also, Any Questions, Just Ask!
Gary........http://www3.telus.net/chemelec
I own gold metal detectors and when I went to the beach I always took them there and they can give me some surprises. and I also can take it to the park to or find the metal goods, such as coins and so on. It has also helped find the ring that I lost in the garden,this is really great.
Weird. A new post to a ten-year-old thread.

That's about how long it takes the metal detector to pay for itself, if
you don't count the labour.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Depends on how you see that
I'm planning to build one with my daughter and it will pay for itself
just for the fun of doing that, not counting the fun of using it together...


--
Thanks,
Fred.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Fred Bartoli wrote:

Phil Hobbs a écrit :
Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sep 21, 8:43 am, danielleblatch...@aol.com wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:20:48 AM UTC+8, Gary Lecomte wrote:
I am currently designing "A pulse Induction metal detector" that runs
of a "Single 12 volt sealed lead acid battery" or equivalent (with no
less than 11.2 volts) The unit is already built and I'm now testing it
and drafting the schematic. All IC's and transistors are readily
available, with one possible exception. An TI part REG1117a which is a
"SOP" Pkg Low Dropout Regulator! (Surface Mount Device) Other IC's are
TL081, MC555, LT1054, 79L05, 78L05. Circuit board is 2 1/2 in. * 4 5/8
in., single sided and has 265 holes. It has capability of "one" or
"two" search coils. When using two coils, one is used to reject
unwanted interference.
If their is reasonable interest from people on here, I will post it on
my Web Page as soon as it is complete.
So if interested, e-mail me or reply on here!
Also, Any Questions, Just Ask!
Gary........http://www3.telus.net/chemelec
I own gold metal detectors and when I went to the beach I always took them there and they can give me some surprises. and I also can take it to the park to or find the metal goods, such as coins and so on. It has also helped find the ring that I lost in the garden,this is really great.
Weird. A new post to a ten-year-old thread.

That's about how long it takes the metal detector to pay for itself, if
you don't count the labour.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


Depends on how you see that
I'm planning to build one with my daughter and it will pay for itself
just for the fun of doing that, not counting the fun of using it together...

--
Thanks,
Fred.

That's another story entirely. Have a great time!

A couple of weeks ago I was in Cape May NJ, which is one of my
favourites among built-up spots. There was a very weatherbeaten old guy
going up and down the beach with a commercial metal detector, but he
didn't look like he was having much fun. Probably got him away from the
TV, at least. (TV isn't called "the curse of the old" for nothing.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[Charlie E.]

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:16:33 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Sep 19, 9:50 pm, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sep 19, 2:41 pm, Phil Hobbs wrote:

It's really sad to see people trying desperate measures to try to keep
Mom or Dad (or themselves) around, when there's no prospect of returning
to health or even freedom from pain.

But in the US there's no legal alternative.

Where did you get that idea?  Google for "living will" and "health care
proxy".

If you're terminal, suffering, and want to die, doctors and nurses
will quietly help you.

I'm not naming names, but it's common.

It was the families of charity cases that a former g.f. saw in her ICU
that routinely insisted that no expense be spared, most especially in
hopeless cases. And, they were most likely to sue, making everyone
skittish, and practice medicine defensively, lest they get sued.

Part of that is one of the new myths - the accident that makes you
rich. It is a meme that says, if you have an accident in a store, get
hit by a rich guy, or have a doctor do something incorrect, you can
sue them and then be on easy street for the rest of your life. This
makes many folks actively seek such encounters, and there are some
that make a living this way!

So, if grandpa is sick, maybe we will all get rich off his doctors if
something goes wrong. If not, he got the best care possible. At least
we don't have to pay for it! :-(

 

[Phil Hobbs]

"Charlie E." wrote:

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:16:33 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Sep 19, 9:50 pm, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sep 19, 2:41 pm, Phil Hobbs wrote:

It's really sad to see people trying desperate measures to try to keep
Mom or Dad (or themselves) around, when there's no prospect of returning
to health or even freedom from pain.

But in the US there's no legal alternative.

Where did you get that idea? Google for "living will" and "health care
proxy".

If you're terminal, suffering, and want to die, doctors and nurses
will quietly help you.

I'm not naming names, but it's common.

It was the families of charity cases that a former g.f. saw in her ICU
that routinely insisted that no expense be spared, most especially in
hopeless cases. And, they were most likely to sue, making everyone
skittish, and practice medicine defensively, lest they get sued.

Part of that is one of the new myths - the accident that makes you
rich. It is a meme that says, if you have an accident in a store, get
hit by a rich guy, or have a doctor do something incorrect, you can
sue them and then be on easy street for the rest of your life. This
makes many folks actively seek such encounters, and there are some
that make a living this way!

So, if grandpa is sick, maybe we will all get rich off his doctors if
something goes wrong. If not, he got the best care possible. At least
we don't have to pay for it! :-(

This fine news article explains everything:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-trying-okay,27444/

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[FullMettleJacket]

On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 08:53:52 +0100, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:

Like the ink-jet printer nonsense. Loads of nominally working video
projectors around where the lamp has worn out after its 1000 to 2000 hours
and a complete new projector is a little more than the cost of a replacement
discharge lamp .
Anyone done a conversion to high power LED emitter lamp? tips/pitfalls ?
Obviously a number of opto-coupler functions need fudging as well as
disconnecting the original lamp supply and HV ignitor sub-circuit
lamp supply input side optos , ignitor-on , lamp on, half/full brightness
output side optos , ignitor cct ok, lamp on (drawing correct current)
confirmation
Perhaps should only consider projectors that allow colour temperature
setting within the menu structures
any other considerations?
I just saw reference to this LED lamp cluster , anyone sen the spec of the
beam angle for it
http://www.ledengin.com/news-events/2012-08

You'd be better off using an array of projectors and assign each one as

a single pixel. Light up an entire wall at a race track or something.

 

[Dave Hazelwood]

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:13:29 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 13:57:55 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
Zarathustra@thusspoke.org> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:54:59 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:25:59 -0400, "George's ProSound Company"
bmoas@yahoo.com> wrote:


It's hard to tell what the Nazis' actual economic policy was, since
neither they nor their philosophy ever really generated any economic
activity besides war.

So the Bush administration had a role model after all!!!
George


Governments don't generate economic activity, except to collect
resources, waste some fraction in the ballpark of 60%, and return
what's left to people who will waste some more of that.

John


Close.

Looks like I may have to start giving you some credit after all.

Of course, some of that stuff, like defense and some social
protections, are necessary, so we just lump the inefficiency. The main
function of defense is to be so good that you never have to use it, so
it's paradoxically a bargain when it's 0% efficient.

But taxing people for, say, public works or education money, and
pouring it Washington, and then doling it back out to the states, is a
formula for waste. The closer the coupling of expenditures to the
people paying for things, the more they will care about value.

John

Value has NO meaning in the Obama Presidency...

Everything is FREE.

But there are NO jobs.

Healthcare is FREE.

But NOBODY can afford it.

FRAUD is an option.

But ONLY for the banks.

CRIME now pays.

But ONLY for Eric Holder.

Al Queda is OUT.

Megaupload is IN.

Cause ONLY Hollywood
is not guilty of SIN.

So we have a new Osama and
his name is Kim.

But somehow Obama can't deal
with that.

The Rule of Law does not apply
when Obama can't win.

Then, he has to CHEAT!

New Zealand Government accused of incompetence over Dotcom
Americans get New Zealand GCSB to break their own laws in haste to
please Obama !

Now, the NZ government is is being accused of "incompetence at the
highest level" after the latest revelations around illegal spying and
the Kim Dotcom case.

http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8537983/key-faces-grilling-over-gcsbs-spying

http://www.3news.co.nz/Who-kept-GCSBs-Dotcom-spying-secret-from-Key/tabid/367/articleID/270526/Default.aspx

 

On Sep 28, 8:34 am, Dave Hazelwood <fedna...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:13:29 -0700, John Larkin <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 13:57:55 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
Zarathus...@thusspoke.org> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:54:59 -0700, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:25:59 -0400, "George's ProSound Company"
bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

It's hard to tell what the Nazis' actual economic policy was, since
neither they nor their philosophy ever really generated any economic
activity besides war.

So the Bush administration had a role model after all!!!
George

Governments don't generate economic activity, except to collect
resources, waste some fraction in the ballpark of 60%, and return
what's left to people who will waste some more of that.

John

 Close.

 Looks like I may have to start giving you some credit after all.

Of course, some of that stuff, like defense and some social
protections, are necessary, so we just lump the inefficiency. The main
function of defense is to be so good that you never have to use it, so
it's paradoxically a bargain when it's 0% efficient.

But taxing people for, say, public works or education money, and
pouring it Washington, and then doling it back out to the states, is a
formula for waste. The closer the coupling of expenditures to the
people paying for things, the more they will care about value.

John

Value has NO meaning in the Obama Presidency...

Everything is FREE.

But there are NO jobs.

Healthcare is FREE.

But NOBODY can afford it.

FRAUD is an option.

But ONLY for the banks.

CRIME now pays.

But ONLY for Eric Holder.

Al Queda is OUT.

Megaupload is IN.

Cause ONLY Hollywood
is not guilty of SIN.

So we have a new Osama and
his name is Kim.

But somehow Obama can't deal
with that.

The Rule of Law does not apply
when Obama can't win.

Then, he has to CHEAT!

New Zealand Government accused of incompetence over Dotcom
Americans get New Zealand GCSB to break their own laws in haste to
please Obama !

Now, the NZ government is is being accused of "incompetence at the
highest level"  after the latest revelations around illegal spying and
the Kim Dotcom case.

http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8537983/key-faces-grilling-over-gc...

http://www.3news.co.nz/Who-kept-GCSBs-Dotcom-spying-secret-from-Key/t...

(Hey, there's classic wisdom in those John Larkin quotes. Strike out
on your own in this life, wander far enough, deep enough, and
eventually you'll find...footprints. Sometimes, your own.)

Meanwhile, don't mess with Hollywood...

--
Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 07:08:06 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Sep 28, 3:04 pm, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Sep 28, 8:34 am, Dave Hazelwood <fedna...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:13:29 -0700, John Larkin <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 13:57:55 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
Zarathus...@thusspoke.org> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:54:59 -0700, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:25:59 -0400, "George's ProSound Company"
bm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

snipped moronic twaddle

(Hey, there's classic wisdom in those John Larkin quotes.

I don't care how much work John Larkin is pushing your way, claiming
that he's a source of classic wisdom is such implausible flattery that
even he may begin to choke on it.

If John Larkin ever says anything sensible, it's essentially random
noise - because he's (as usual) quoting something that he doesn't
really understand.

A couple of years ago, I told you that Europe was igniting a
demographic and economic time bomb, and you said I was ignorant to
make such a claim.

http://www.france24.com/en/20120928-french-government-unveils-tax-slash-2013-budget-hollande-recession-austerity

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_EUROPE_ECONOMY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-28-06-46-37

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/28/spain-cultural-fabric-tears-austerity-cuts?newsfeed=true

Of course, you'll find a way to blame the US. You always do.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
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