Driver to drive?

JW · Feb 16, 2012

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 04:15:50 -0800 FatBytestard
<PhatBytestard@somewheronyourharddrive.org> wrote in Message id:
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:35:30 -0500, JW <none@dev.null> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:11:06 -0800 FatBytestard
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:34:43 -0500, JW <none@dev.null> wrote:

Tsk, Tsk. One lie on top of another... Do you have *any* redeeming
qualities whatsoever, you sad little man?

Go back to your left hand, dumbfuck.

Stop parroting things that you were told the last time you were
pivot man at a circle jerk.

A party you are more familiar with than I, since this is the first I've
heard of such a thing.

Back to the compulsive lying again, I see. What a schmuck.

You seem intimate with such gatherings, however, since you are the one
in command of the jargon.

IKYABWAI. Typical response of sub-morons who don't have the mental acuity
to understand things more difficult than "pull this tab to open".

No surprise there.

You lose. Again. Your norm.

How much glue/acetone/spray paint do you have to sniff to actually believe
what you write?

FOAD, you retarded twit.

I hope you get cancer and die screaming, and your family bribes the
hospital staff to withhold your morphine.

Franc Zabkar · Feb 16, 2012

On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:37:35 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul@hovnanian.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

I have an old Toyota FJ40 (1979) with 'transistorized' ignition. A
reluctance pickup wheel in the distributor and solid state module to switch
the coil in place of the old points.

....

*A replacement is $350. I'm pondering building a DIY unit from scratch. With
a few test points brought out as well. I've found a few DIY projects on
line (including one with the obligatory uC).

Chryslers of that era used inductive pickup electronic ignition
systems. You should find them at the wreckers.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Feb 16, 2012

On Feb 15, 5:43 pm, Joerg <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
Winston wrote:

Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
Winston wrote:

Martin Riddle wrote:
(...)

Bad ground? Distributor to block, block to battery.
Plus ignition module to distributor and all those
nifty connectors.

--Winston
I've pulled all the ignition parts, cleaned and re-tightened the
connections in the process of replacing most of them. battery cables are
(relatively) new. But there may be a block ground I've overlooked.
Yayesss, could be.

Distributor would be a non-issue, as this doesn't use points (the mag
> pickup is floating and shielded).

The pass transistor in the ignition module still needs
a solid ground, to work properly, yes?

--Winston

Right. But how is my cheap Sears timing light fixing that (only a connection
to coil secondary needed).

It dumps some coil energy and provides a capacitance. Might seem small,
but transformed to the coil primary that can be quite a lot. Did you try
hanging a cap across the primary?

It could load the HV, preventing parasitic arc-over. It could be
doing all sorts of things.

Paul needs to fix this, so we know the answer!

--
Cheers,
James Arthur

Wild_Bill · Feb 16, 2012

Resent.. was sent yesterday, apparently lost in the ether (not showing up at
the Goo).

I don't know what's involved as far as where the module is located
physically or electrically in your particular vehicle model.

I realize that you stated the coil still has 12V, but that may not be what's
being interrupted.
You didn't specifically state that you observe this problem in your garage
or driveway, or when actually driving the vehicle, or both.

When I encounter a problem which acts just like turning the key off, I
examine the key switch very closely, and if I can't actually confirm that
the key switch is not the problem (bypass and test driving or thorough
testing on the bench), I'll replace it.
I would highly suspect the switch in a 30 year old vehicle.

Of course, many yards/meters of old wiring and moisture compromised
connector terminals are always worth consideration.

I'm supposing that the timing light used is not an inductive type. The air
gap between the rotor tip and the cap electrodes is intended to increase the
intensity of the spark at the spark plugs, so adding an old style timing
light (springy end poked into the coil output well) in series with the coil
HT wire could be having a similar effect, maybe.
I'd definitely want a suppressive wire core HT lead there, not the
impregnated synthetic strand type of HT lead.

The module could very likely be developing a intermittent fault, but I would
expect an internal component fault/breakdown problem to be sensitive to
different environmental/ambient temperatures, so you might try placing it in
a freezer, and also a hot box heated with a heat gun or similar method.

Trigger coils located in distributors generally stop working altogether when
they develop an open circuit fault, IME.. but a possibility exists for
intermittent OC faults in the trigger coil leads and associated
connections/wiring.

Building a reliable ignition module (capacitor discharge possibly) can be a
serious undertaking considering the extreme enviroment in an engine
compartment.
I believe ignition module makers utilize a superior grade of components to
be used in these sorts of products, not just ordinary catalog parts, IMO.

--
Cheers,
WB
..............

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:doCdnSgw_clnJ6TSnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@posted.isomediainc...

I have an old Toyota FJ40 (1979) with 'transistorized' ignition. A
reluctance pickup wheel in the distributor and solid state module to
switch
the coil in place of the old points.

Its starting to get a bit flakey. From time to time (and more frequently
now) the ignition just cuts out. Just like turning the key off. But it
still has +12V to the coil. After starting the replace parts until its
fixed method, I'm down to the solid state module now.

But, and here's the puzzle, one of my diagnostics for spark/no spark has
been to throw an old timing light on to the coil output. Oddly enough,
that
fixes the problem within a few seconds. The engine fires up and runs fine
for a few days. Otherwise, its crank, wiggle wires, poke around with a
voltmeter to no effect.

At first, I figured that too large spark plug gaps were causing the coil
secondary (and primary) currents to decay too slowly and that this was
screwing up the module's operation (bad flyback diode perhaps?). The
addition of the timing light was like putting a gas discharge surge
arrester in the circuit, clamping the primary voltage quickly. But this
failure continues after having changed plugs, cables, cap, and rotor. New
coil too. So everything should be within spec. And when it runs, it runs
beautifully.

I'm pretty sure its the solid state module that's got to go*. It's the
only
old part left. But I'd like to understand the cause behind the failure
while I fix it. And this is an interesting puzzle. BTW, the module is
potted, so I'm can only guess about its innards.

Any thoughts?

*A replacement is $350. I'm pondering building a DIY unit from scratch.
With
a few test points brought out as well. I've found a few DIY projects on
line (including one with the obligatory uC).

--
Paul Hovnanian mailtoaul@Hovnanian.com
------------------------------------------------------------------
The blinking cursor writes; and having writ, blinks on.

FatBytestard · Feb 17, 2012

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:51:36 -0500, JW <none@dev.null> wrote:

What a schmuck.

You most certainly are, you pathetic fuck.

FatBytestard · Feb 17, 2012

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:51:36 -0500, JW <none@dev.null> wrote:

FOAD, you retarded twit.

I hope you get cancer and die screaming, and your family bribes the
hospital staff to withhold your morphine.

Stupid fucktards like you deserve the slowest, most painful of deaths.

You should be vivisected, and then doused with alcohol., and then
slowly be fed to a wood chipper, feet first.

That is the kind of death retarded abusive fucks like you deserve.

John Larkin · Feb 17, 2012

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:51:06 -0800, josephkk
<joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:07:05 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Here's another interesting relationship: the more politically powerful
a person is, the more likely that they are sociopaths.

Profound observation.

May I add?:

The more "god-fearing" a person, the greater likelihood of a
sociopath.

You have that entirely backwards. Read this:

http://tinyurl.com/829rwty

Totally irrelevant.

?-)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152723/Religious-Americans-Enjoy-Higher-Wellbeing.aspx

--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

Feb 17, 2012

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:20:19 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:51:06 -0800, josephkk
joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:07:05 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Here's another interesting relationship: the more politically powerful
a person is, the more likely that they are sociopaths.

Profound observation.

May I add?:

The more "god-fearing" a person, the greater likelihood of a
sociopath.

You have that entirely backwards. Read this:

http://tinyurl.com/829rwty

Totally irrelevant.

?-)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152723/Religious-Americans-Enjoy-Higher-Wellbeing.aspx

Interesting side effect of religious indoctrination maybe.

Passive, content, non-confrontational, destiny is controlled by
others, etc.,

or in other words.... there is a damn good reason the religiously
inculcated are referred to as sheep, and their masters shepherds.

This is the best of all possible worlds. You can do no better. Look
no further. Don't rock the boat. Stay inside the box. Comfort is
more important than living if the latter involves pain. Go along to
get along. You'll be rewarded after you die.

John Larkin · Feb 17, 2012

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:23:54 -0500, default wrote:

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:20:19 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:51:06 -0800, josephkk
joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:07:05 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Here's another interesting relationship: the more politically powerful
a person is, the more likely that they are sociopaths.

Profound observation.

May I add?:

The more "god-fearing" a person, the greater likelihood of a
sociopath.

You have that entirely backwards. Read this:

http://tinyurl.com/829rwty

Totally irrelevant.

?-)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152723/Religious-Americans-Enjoy-Higher-Wellbeing.aspx

Interesting side effect of religious indoctrination maybe.

Passive, content, non-confrontational, destiny is controlled by
others, etc.,

or in other words.... there is a damn good reason the religiously
inculcated are referred to as sheep, and their masters shepherds.

This is the best of all possible worlds. You can do no better. Look
no further. Don't rock the boat. Stay inside the box. Comfort is
more important than living if the latter involves pain. Go along to
get along. You'll be rewarded after you die.

You have a bad attitude. You probably deserve it.

--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

Jim Thompson · Feb 17, 2012

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:14:27 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:23:54 -0500, default wrote:

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:20:19 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:51:06 -0800, josephkk
joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:07:05 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Here's another interesting relationship: the more politically powerful
a person is, the more likely that they are sociopaths.

Profound observation.

May I add?:

The more "god-fearing" a person, the greater likelihood of a
sociopath.

You have that entirely backwards. Read this:

http://tinyurl.com/829rwty

Totally irrelevant.

?-)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152723/Religious-Americans-Enjoy-Higher-Wellbeing.aspx

Interesting side effect of religious indoctrination maybe.

Passive, content, non-confrontational, destiny is controlled by
others, etc.,

or in other words.... there is a damn good reason the religiously
inculcated are referred to as sheep, and their masters shepherds.

This is the best of all possible worlds. You can do no better. Look
no further. Don't rock the boat. Stay inside the box. Comfort is
more important than living if the latter involves pain. Go along to
get along. You'll be rewarded after you die.

You have a bad attitude. You probably deserve it.

I thought he was talking of "life" under the Obama regime

John Larkin · Feb 17, 2012

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:35:29 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Feb 9, 11:32 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 07:08:07 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Feb 9, 12:45 am, josephkk <joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:06:30 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:31:32 -0500, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:

It must be hell to be manic depressive.

Nah, some of my favourite transistors are bipolar.

Mine, too >:-}

Often useful for tran' sisters. Not necessarily good for engineers.

One wonders about that. Looking through history, the more brilliant
someone is, the more likely they're crazy.

Of course. Ideas come from permeability in the barriers that segrate
ideas and brain functions. Schitzophrenia comes from a more complete
breakdown.

I guess attachment to reality works the same way. If you can
reasonably suspend conventional concepts of what's possible and
impossible, you can better explore the solution space. If you suspend
all limits on the possible, you become a loonie.

Here's another interesting relationship: the more politically powerful
a person is, the more likely that they are sociopaths.

(Ooo, I forgot to follow this thread.)

Yes, I definitely see that.

I saw a thing on PBS(?) a ways back, a psychological leadership
experiment. They assembled groups of strangers, posed a fake survival
crisis, and studied how the group organized itself. They found the
most proficient liar was invariably selected leader, not the best
problem solvers. The leaders would identify and marginalize the best
problem solvers on the one hand, heading off competition, yet harness
them, and get credit for the resulting success.

The other trend I see, constantly, is that people elect the candidates
with the longest heads.

Our political "leadership" tends to be arrogant, oversexed,
power-hungry idiots, rich lawyers mostly, who really don't understand
how things work. Well, people get the government they deserve.

Two of the most popular presidents in history, JFK and Clinton, were
oversexed idiots. Obama probably is, too, but we know nothing about
his past.

--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

Feb 17, 2012

On Feb 9, 11:32 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 07:08:07 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Feb 9, 12:45 am, josephkk <joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:06:30 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:31:32 -0500, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:

It must be hell to be manic depressive.

Nah, some of my favourite transistors are bipolar.

Mine, too >:-}

Often useful for tran' sisters. Not necessarily good for engineers.

One wonders about that. Looking through history, the more brilliant
someone is, the more likely they're crazy.

Of course. Ideas come from permeability in the barriers that segrate
ideas and brain functions. Schitzophrenia comes from a more complete
breakdown.

I guess attachment to reality works the same way. If you can
reasonably suspend conventional concepts of what's possible and
impossible, you can better explore the solution space. If you suspend
all limits on the possible, you become a loonie.

Here's another interesting relationship: the more politically powerful
a person is, the more likely that they are sociopaths.

(Ooo, I forgot to follow this thread.)

Yes, I definitely see that.

I saw a thing on PBS(?) a ways back, a psychological leadership
experiment. They assembled groups of strangers, posed a fake survival
crisis, and studied how the group organized itself. They found the
most proficient liar was invariably selected leader, not the best
problem solvers. The leaders would identify and marginalize the best
problem solvers on the one hand, heading off competition, yet harness
them, and get credit for the resulting success.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur

John Larkin · Feb 17, 2012

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:09:15 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Feb 17, 9:23 am, default wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:20:19 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:51:06 -0800, josephkk wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:07:05 -0800, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Here's another interesting relationship: the more politically powerful
a person is, the more likely that they are sociopaths.

Profound observation.

May I add?:

The more "god-fearing" a person, the greater likelihood of a
sociopath.

You have that entirely backwards. Read this:

http://tinyurl.com/829rwty

Totally irrelevant.

?-)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152723/Religious-Americans-Enjoy-Higher-We...

Interesting side effect of religious indoctrination maybe.

Passive, content, non-confrontational, destiny is controlled by
others, etc.,

But that sounds like socialism, where frightened masses cling to the
belief that a government that lives off of them for its sustenance can
supply them with more than they have.

That's inherently passive--"my well-being depends on the actions of
others beyond my control."

Next, to realize this ambition for security, they, passive, not
wanting to act, want someone else (the government) to procure it all
for them by controlling others: force. That's passive-aggressive.

Bizarrely, they call this "caring," when in truth it's simply selfish.

or in other words.... there is a damn good reason the religiously
inculcated are referred to as sheep, and their masters shepherds.

This is the best of all possible worlds. You can do no better. Look
no further. Don't rock the boat. Stay inside the box. Comfort is
more important than living if the latter involves pain. Go along to
get along. You'll be rewarded after you die.

The advantage of the faithful, is that they have faith.

And, more generally, empathy and an interest in externalities. This is
the opposite of selfishness and neurosis. Of course people with faith
are healthier and happier. And, I'd argue, people who design
electronics get similar benefits.

That's one cool thing about the "Who Really Cares" book: there's
overwhelming statistical proof that, the more people give away, the
better off they are.

--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

Feb 17, 2012

On Feb 17, 9:23 am, default wrote:

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:20:19 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:51:06 -0800, josephkk wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:07:05 -0800, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Here's another interesting relationship: the more politically powerful
a person is, the more likely that they are sociopaths.

Profound observation.

May I add?:

The more "god-fearing" a person, the greater likelihood of a
sociopath.

You have that entirely backwards. Read this:

http://tinyurl.com/829rwty

Totally irrelevant.

?-)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152723/Religious-Americans-Enjoy-Higher-We...

Interesting side effect of religious indoctrination maybe.

Passive, content, non-confrontational, destiny is controlled by
others, etc.,

But that sounds like socialism, where frightened masses cling to the
belief that a government that lives off of them for its sustenance can
supply them with more than they have.

That's inherently passive--"my well-being depends on the actions of
others beyond my control."

Next, to realize this ambition for security, they, passive, not
wanting to act, want someone else (the government) to procure it all
for them by controlling others: force. That's passive-aggressive.

Bizarrely, they call this "caring," when in truth it's simply selfish.

or in other words.... there is a damn good reason the religiously
inculcated are referred to as sheep, and their masters shepherds.

This is the best of all possible worlds. You can do no better. Look
no further. Don't rock the boat. Stay inside the box. Comfort is
more important than living if the latter involves pain. Go along to
get along. You'll be rewarded after you die.

The advantage of the faithful, is that they have faith.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur

krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz · Feb 17, 2012

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:35:58 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:09:15 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Feb 17, 9:23 am, default wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:20:19 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:51:06 -0800, josephkk wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:07:05 -0800, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Here's another interesting relationship: the more politically powerful
a person is, the more likely that they are sociopaths.

Profound observation.

May I add?:

The more "god-fearing" a person, the greater likelihood of a
sociopath.

You have that entirely backwards. Read this:

http://tinyurl.com/829rwty

Totally irrelevant.

?-)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152723/Religious-Americans-Enjoy-Higher-We...

Interesting side effect of religious indoctrination maybe.

Passive, content, non-confrontational, destiny is controlled by
others, etc.,

But that sounds like socialism, where frightened masses cling to the
belief that a government that lives off of them for its sustenance can
supply them with more than they have.

That's inherently passive--"my well-being depends on the actions of
others beyond my control."

Next, to realize this ambition for security, they, passive, not
wanting to act, want someone else (the government) to procure it all
for them by controlling others: force. That's passive-aggressive.

Bizarrely, they call this "caring," when in truth it's simply selfish.

or in other words.... there is a damn good reason the religiously
inculcated are referred to as sheep, and their masters shepherds.

This is the best of all possible worlds. You can do no better. Look
no further. Don't rock the boat. Stay inside the box. Comfort is
more important than living if the latter involves pain. Go along to
get along. You'll be rewarded after you die.

The advantage of the faithful, is that they have faith.

And, more generally, empathy and an interest in externalities. This is
the opposite of selfishness and neurosis. Of course people with faith
are healthier and happier. And, I'd argue, people who design
electronics get similar benefits.

That's one cool thing about the "Who Really Cares" book: there's
overwhelming statistical proof that, the more people give away, the
better off they are.

Giving OPiuM is not "giving".

John Larkin · Feb 17, 2012

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:49:07 -0500, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:35:58 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:09:15 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Feb 17, 9:23 am, default wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:20:19 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:51:06 -0800, josephkk wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:07:05 -0800, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Here's another interesting relationship: the more politically powerful
a person is, the more likely that they are sociopaths.

Profound observation.

May I add?:

The more "god-fearing" a person, the greater likelihood of a
sociopath.

You have that entirely backwards. Read this:

http://tinyurl.com/829rwty

Totally irrelevant.

?-)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152723/Religious-Americans-Enjoy-Higher-We...

Interesting side effect of religious indoctrination maybe.

Passive, content, non-confrontational, destiny is controlled by
others, etc.,

But that sounds like socialism, where frightened masses cling to the
belief that a government that lives off of them for its sustenance can
supply them with more than they have.

That's inherently passive--"my well-being depends on the actions of
others beyond my control."

Next, to realize this ambition for security, they, passive, not
wanting to act, want someone else (the government) to procure it all
for them by controlling others: force. That's passive-aggressive.

Bizarrely, they call this "caring," when in truth it's simply selfish.

or in other words.... there is a damn good reason the religiously
inculcated are referred to as sheep, and their masters shepherds.

This is the best of all possible worlds. You can do no better. Look
no further. Don't rock the boat. Stay inside the box. Comfort is
more important than living if the latter involves pain. Go along to
get along. You'll be rewarded after you die.

The advantage of the faithful, is that they have faith.

And, more generally, empathy and an interest in externalities. This is
the opposite of selfishness and neurosis. Of course people with faith
are healthier and happier. And, I'd argue, people who design
electronics get similar benefits.

That's one cool thing about the "Who Really Cares" book: there's
overwhelming statistical proof that, the more people give away, the
better off they are.

Giving OPiuM is not "giving".

And prejudice is not "thinking."

--

John Larkin, President
Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME thermocouple, LVDT, synchro acquisition and simulation

Feb 17, 2012

On Feb 17, 11:35 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:09:15 -0800 (PST), dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Feb 17, 9:23 am, default wrote:
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:20:19 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:51:06 -0800, josephkk wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:07:05 -0800, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Here's another interesting relationship: the more politically powerful
a person is, the more likely that they are sociopaths.

Profound observation.

May I add?:

The more "god-fearing" a person, the greater likelihood of a
sociopath.

You have that entirely backwards. Read this:

http://tinyurl.com/829rwty

Totally irrelevant.

?-)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/152723/Religious-Americans-Enjoy-Higher-We....

Interesting side effect of religious indoctrination maybe.

Passive, content, non-confrontational, destiny is controlled by
others, etc.,

But that sounds like socialism, where frightened masses cling to the
belief that a government that lives off of them for its sustenance can
supply them with more than they have.

That's inherently passive--"my well-being depends on the actions of
others beyond my control."

Next, to realize this ambition for security, they, passive, not
wanting to act, want someone else (the government) to procure it all
for them by controlling others: force. That's passive-aggressive.

Bizarrely, they call this "caring," when in truth it's simply selfish.

or in other words.... there is a damn good reason the religiously
inculcated are referred to as sheep, and their masters shepherds.

This is the best of all possible worlds. You can do no better. Look
no further. Don't rock the boat. Stay inside the box. Comfort is
more important than living if the latter involves pain. Go along to
get along. You'll be rewarded after you die.

The advantage of the faithful, is that they have faith.

And, more generally, empathy and an interest in externalities. This is
the opposite of selfishness and neurosis. Of course people with faith
are healthier and happier. And, I'd argue, people who design
electronics get similar benefits.

That's one cool thing about the "Who Really Cares" book: there's
overwhelming statistical proof that, the more people give away, the
better off they are.

Last year there was a great segment on NPR, where a researcher
described surveying university students about the starvation and
poverty in Africa, and whether the US should do more.

"Oh, most definitely, without a doubt, they deserve it, humans
rights" etc.
"Would you be willing to go without your cell phone to save children
in Africa, or pay a like monthly sum?"
"Oh. H3ll no!"

--
Cheers,
James Arthur

Fred Abse · Feb 17, 2012

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:10:12 -0500, Wild_Bill wrote:

I believe ignition module makers utilize a superior grade of components to
be used in these sorts of products, not just ordinary catalog parts, IMO.

Nah! this is the automotive industry. Skin a dime.

--
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence
over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."
(Richard Feynman)

Jim Thompson · Feb 17, 2012

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:06:44 -0800, Fred Abse
<excretatauris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:10:12 -0500, Wild_Bill wrote:

I believe ignition module makers utilize a superior grade of components to
be used in these sorts of products, not just ordinary catalog parts, IMO.

Nah! this is the automotive industry. Skin a dime.

Michael A. Terrell · Feb 17, 2012

default wrote:

Passive, content, non-confrontational, destiny is controlled by
others, etc.,

or in other words.... there is a damn good reason the religiously
inculcated are referred to as sheep, and their masters shepherds.

More leftist propaganda. "There is but one shepard."

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

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