A Product Design Invitation

"Bob Monsen" <rcsurname@comcast.net> schreef in bericht
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Guy Macon wrote:
Winfield Hill wrote:

Guy Macon wrote...

... You appear to be investing a great deal of effort
into criticizing what happens in a newsgroup that you
seem to be uninterested in using. I wonder why that is?

We don't want you messing around with the headers, etc., of
any postings in our public group. That's what'll happen if
someone replies to an s.e.d. thread from within your group.



The following is typical guywanese... here is the actual nugget of
information:

[5] Crossposts by you to s.e.d and m.b.p-d.
^^^^^^^^
= misc.business.product-dev, Guy's moderated group
Same answer as [2]. Don't crosspost to moderated newsgroups
if you don't wish your posts to be moderated. You are responsible
for deciding where your posts go. If you allow someone else (such
as the person you are replying to) to make that decision for you,
be a man and don't whine about the consequences of your bad decisions.


His advice? Caveat Emptor! You need to check the post you are replying
to for surreptitious changes to the followup-to: field. It is *your*
fault that the 'guy' you are replying to changed the followup-to field
to SCI.ELECTR0NICS.DESIGN (note the clever use of lookalike
characters... can you spot the zero?), or alt.dev.null, or
alt.misc.pictures.erotica in his message.
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Yep, Guy Macon got us by the balls. I knew for long that he was the
misarable piece of shit that he is, killfiled him, but never expected
this. Bit of shame that modern easy-to-use newsreaders don't offer full
control of the headers, otherwise it would be easy to bypass this bastard.

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'q' and 'invalid' when replying by email)
 
"Guy Macon" <_see.web.page_@_www.guymacon.com_> wrote in message
news:11a6motbi5gtfcf@corp.supernews.com...
I have exactly as much evidence that Bob Monsen is a pedophile
murderer as he has that I add big lists of other unused groups
to the crosspost field including the one I moderate, and I expect
the reader to treat both claims equally seriously.
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I'm not trying to strain the analogy, but right here in this newsgroup we
have seen Guy Macon fiddle with follow-up headers just to teach us all a
valuable lesson.

Now what do you have on Bob Monsen to compare with that?
 
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 14:55:12 -0700, "Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com>
wrote:

"Guy Macon" <_see.web.page_@_www.guymacon.com_> wrote in message
news:11a6motbi5gtfcf@corp.supernews.com...

I have exactly as much evidence that Bob Monsen is a pedophile
murderer as he has that I add big lists of other unused groups
to the crosspost field including the one I moderate, and I expect
the reader to treat both claims equally seriously.

I'm not trying to strain the analogy, but right here in this newsgroup we
have seen Guy Macon fiddle with follow-up headers just to teach us all a
valuable lesson.
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That's like a burglar ransacking your home to teach you a lesson about
leaving your windows unlocked.

John
 
Frank Bemelman wrote:

Yep, Guy Macon got us by the balls. I knew for long that he was the
misarable piece of shit that he is, killfiled him, but never expected
this. Bit of shame that modern easy-to-use newsreaders don't offer full
control of the headers, otherwise it would be easy to bypass this bastard.
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Is Guy Macon that same p.o.s. who was posting under ProductDeveloper
with his moron level dogma?
 
On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 23:09:22 GMT, the renowned Fred Bloggs
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

Frank Bemelman wrote:



Yep, Guy Macon got us by the balls. I knew for long that he was the
misarable piece of shit that he is, killfiled him, but never expected
this. Bit of shame that modern easy-to-use newsreaders don't offer full
control of the headers, otherwise it would be easy to bypass this bastard.


Is Guy Macon that same p.o.s. who was posting under ProductDeveloper
with his moron level dogma?
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Close, but no cigar. Jack and Guy appear to be about 35 miles apart.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:42A38612.9060808@nospam.com...
Frank Bemelman wrote:



Yep, Guy Macon got us by the balls. I knew for long that he was the
misarable piece of shit that he is, killfiled him, but never expected
this. Bit of shame that modern easy-to-use newsreaders don't offer full
control of the headers, otherwise it would be easy to bypass this
bastard.


Is Guy Macon that same p.o.s. who was posting under ProductDeveloper
with his moron level dogma?
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Even worse I'd think. I seem to recall that ProductDeveloper actually
had some knowledge about electronics, where Guy Macon highest achievement
is a poorly designed R/C decade box.

Okay, that's cheap and nasty. I never designed a decade box so I should
keep my mouth shut. I apologize.

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'q' and 'invalid' when replying by email)
 
Frank Bemelman wrote:
"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:42A38612.9060808@nospam.com...


Frank Bemelman wrote:



Yep, Guy Macon got us by the balls. I knew for long that he was the
misarable piece of shit that he is, killfiled him, but never expected
this. Bit of shame that modern easy-to-use newsreaders don't offer full
control of the headers, otherwise it would be easy to bypass this

bastard.

Is Guy Macon that same p.o.s. who was posting under ProductDeveloper
with his moron level dogma?


Even worse I'd think. I seem to recall that ProductDeveloper actually
had some knowledge about electronics, where Guy Macon highest achievement
is a poorly designed R/C decade box.

Okay, that's cheap and nasty. I never designed a decade box so I should
keep my mouth shut. I apologize.
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Hasn't Guy Macon developed products for Mattel Toys? That puts him head
and shoulders above the low life Jack Durbin. There's no question in my
mind that Durbin is a dirty business type, whereas at least Macon
produced something to make children happy. But then even Durbin is head
and shoulders above that other worthless fraud, Seim, a thoroughly
corrupt parasite and low life making a living defrauding the American
tax payer.
 
Guy Macon wrote:
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

He's not laughing. He's terrified.

My actual internal mental state is detached amusement.

Guy Macon is still a Nerd. The Classic Geek

Guilty as charged. (You, of course, defy catagorization) :)

FYI, there's no way he can stop some other person's
post to an unmoderated newsgroup even if it _has_
been crossposted.

You are incorrect. If someone crossposts between a moderated
newsgroup and an unmoderated newsgroup, the moderator can
approve or reject the post. That's how alt.dev.null works;
it is simply a moderated newsgroup that rejects every post.

What he _might_ be able to do is spoof some headers and do
in-line editing

Emphasis on "Might be able to." Both are against my moderation
policy. If someone posts something, they should be able to
expect that their words not be altered. That's why the title
is "moderator" and not "editor."

I'll not comment
further. Feel free to have the last word.

OK! ;-D ;-D ;-D

Another promise made, another promise soon to be broken.
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Macon, do you really think even only one of the S.E.D. regulars will join
your group? Not now any more after how you acted in those threads here. Just
give up your stupid idea as was the case with teaching us to write [OT] or
whatever in the header. I can see that you are not even following your own
suggestion, but Rich who clarified this. Your "contribution" is just a
nuisance, I declare you the most *unpopular* "guy" in this NG. At least you
win this title. Congrats.
--
ciao Ban
Bordighera, Italy
 
"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:42A41A2E.6060100@nospam.com...
Frank Bemelman wrote:
"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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Frank Bemelman wrote:



Yep, Guy Macon got us by the balls. I knew for long that he was the
misarable piece of shit that he is, killfiled him, but never expected
this. Bit of shame that modern easy-to-use newsreaders don't offer full
control of the headers, otherwise it would be easy to bypass this

bastard.

Is Guy Macon that same p.o.s. who was posting under ProductDeveloper
with his moron level dogma?


Even worse I'd think. I seem to recall that ProductDeveloper actually
had some knowledge about electronics, where Guy Macon highest
achievement
is a poorly designed R/C decade box.

Okay, that's cheap and nasty. I never designed a decade box so I should
keep my mouth shut. I apologize.


Hasn't Guy Macon developed products for Mattel Toys? That puts him head
and shoulders above the low life Jack Durbin. There's no question in my
mind that Durbin is a dirty business type, whereas at least Macon
produced something to make children happy. But then even Durbin is head
and shoulders above that other worthless fraud, Seim, a thoroughly
corrupt parasite and low life making a living defrauding the American
tax payer.
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GM developed?? For Mattel? - I can hardly believe it. I must have missed
that thread. Perhaps he 'enveloped' products for Mattel, in the mail room.

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'q' and 'invalid' when replying by email)
 
Frank Bemelman wrote:

GM developed?? For Mattel? - I can hardly believe it. I must have missed
that thread. Perhaps he 'enveloped' products for Mattel, in the mail room.
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I was the Project engineer and project manager Diva Starz, Mattel's
best selling new toy for the year 2000 -- I managed a sixteen person,
two city design team and supervised hand-off to the manufacturing
team in China. I was the design engineer/programmer on various other
Mattel products. I was Heart monitor engineer for the ABC television
network game show "The Chair." I have designed Grounding systems or
recording studios, done patent research for a major Los Angeles law
firm and designed and built a cryptographic atomic-decay random
number generator. I designed the first DVD-RAM replication line,
designed electronic controls for pneumatics, servos, and chillers
and have trained electrical engineers in Japan. I Designed a low-cost
gas analyzer/smog tester and babied it through acceptance testing at
the General Motors proving ground in Pheonix. Every Boeing 777, 757,
AV8B Harrier, and C-17 Globemaster either has parts that I designed
or has parts that were tested using equipment I designed. And yes, I
have seen the happy faces of children as they played with toys that I
either designed or managed the design of. Have you made the world a
better place?
 
Fred Bloggs wrote:

Right- it looks like he has already decided that you be bit-bucket'ed
off USENET entirely. I am so glad to know that the idiot will save me
from your posts- just another example of a self-absorbed narcissist, so
many of those rejects around.
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He can't do that. All he can do is prohibit me from posting to his
little kingdom, and call me a pedophile. Nobody really cares what the
hell he thinks, and I'm not about to post to his group, so that doesn't
matter.

I actually do care what you think for some bizarre reason, though. Why
are you always so nasty to everybody?

---
Bob Monsen
 
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 12:20:43 -0700, Richard Henry wrote:

"Rich Grise" <richgrise@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.06.04.17.56.20.918017@example.net...
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 17:33:44 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:
Rich Grise wrote:

And the electronic design content is this post is where, exactly?

Point well taken. When you are right, you are right, and this is
clearly a case where you are right and I was wrong.

My apologies to the esteemed Mr. Grise.

Thank you, Guy. I accept your apology in all seriousness.
Please pay no attention to those little boys playing behind my
various nyms.

In the spirit of good will, of course, I'll make an earnest effort
to keep the Rich Grise persona focused on technical matters, unless the
subject line is clearly marked 'OT:' or the thread has been extant for
such a long time that even our Grand Masters are opining.

Deal?

Thought so. :) I agree too. :)

So where is the electronics content of this posting?
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It didn't need any, because the subject line started with 'OT:'.

Cheers!
Rich
 
On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 02:17:43 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:
John Fields wrote:

What next, are you gonna filter out the Jews?

One person sets followups to an inappropriate group, I set a filter
that only catches those misdirected followups, and this is the sort
of over-the-top response I get. You appear to be investing a great
deal of effort into criticizing what happens in a newsgroup that you
seem to be uninterested in using. I wonder why that is?
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Because John Fields, apparently, enjoys investing effort into
criticizing stuff that _he_ doesn't like. Usually, in no uncertain
terms. ;-D

Cheers!
Rich
 
On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 14:55:12 -0700, Richard Henry wrote:

"Guy Macon" <_see.web.page_@_www.guymacon.com_> wrote in message
news:11a6motbi5gtfcf@corp.supernews.com...

I have exactly as much evidence that Bob Monsen is a pedophile
murderer as he has that I add big lists of other unused groups
to the crosspost field including the one I moderate, and I expect
the reader to treat both claims equally seriously.

I'm not trying to strain the analogy, but right here in this newsgroup we
have seen Guy Macon fiddle with follow-up headers just to teach us all a
valuable lesson.

Now what do you have on Bob Monsen to compare with that?
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So, what's so bad about murdering paedophiles?
--
The Pig Bladder from Uranus
 
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:57:41 +0000, Guy Macon wrote:
Frank Bemelman wrote:

GM developed?? For Mattel? - I can hardly believe it. I must have missed
that thread. Perhaps he 'enveloped' products for Mattel, in the mail room.

I was the Project engineer and project manager Diva Starz, Mattel's
best selling new toy for the year 2000 -- I managed a sixteen person,
two city design team and supervised hand-off to the manufacturing
team in China. I was the design engineer/programmer on various other
Mattel products. I was Heart monitor engineer for the ABC television
network game show "The Chair." I have designed Grounding systems or
recording studios, done patent research for a major Los Angeles law
firm and designed and built a cryptographic atomic-decay random
number generator. I designed the first DVD-RAM replication line,
designed electronic controls for pneumatics, servos, and chillers
and have trained electrical engineers in Japan. I Designed a low-cost
gas analyzer/smog tester and babied it through acceptance testing at
the General Motors proving ground in Pheonix. Every Boeing 777, 757,
AV8B Harrier, and C-17 Globemaster either has parts that I designed
or has parts that were tested using equipment I designed. And yes, I
have seen the happy faces of children as they played with toys that I
either designed or managed the design of. Have you made the world a
better place?
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Then why don't you tell about your experiences doing these things,
which actually sound interesting, rather than waste everybody's time
making stupid piss wars?

Thanks,
Rich
 
Bob Monsen wrote:

As an additional warning, a time-honored usenet scheme occasionally
stumbled upon by craven, lying bastards has been to become moderator of
some unused moderated group, and then, while in a flame war, add a big
list of other unused groups to the crosspost field, including their
little kingdom somewhere in the mix. It is often done in stages, with
more and more groups added as the flames go back and forth, until the
hapless victim doesn't know which posts are coming from which groups.
Once the moderated group is inserted, the attacker has the ability to
reject or edit the post of his adversary. I first saw this used, to
stunning effect, in 1985.
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As one more additional warning, I would watch out for Bob Monsen.
A time-honored scheme occasionally stumbled upon by two-faced flaming
pedophiles is to start out with online flaming and later to graduate
to real-life murder. It is often done in stages with midnight phone
calls, mailed death threats, tire slashing, etc. and ends with murder.
And, as additional evidence, far, far more murderers are named Bob than
are named Guy!

I have exactly as much evidence that Bob Monsen is a pedophile
murderer as he has that I add big lists of other unused groups
to the crosspost field including the one I moderate, and I expect
the reader to treat both claims equally seriously.

I await with eager anticipation your next accusation of some
imaginary future malfeasance. *Quite* entertaining!

"Usenet being what it is, if you participate in newsgroups
at all over a period if time you have the possibility of
attracting your own personal lunatic, who considers any
disagreement a personal affront, and considers it their
duty and obligation to "expose" the person they fixate on.
It's kind of pathetic, but they can't quite seem to figure
out why no one else sees their actions as heroic."
-Richard Ward
 
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:so1v91hqss8g779j9b9v07pik3bn75um1p@4ax.com...

I still don't understand the politics of moderation. Can somebody come
along and decide to moderate s.e.d.?

John
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Well,

The BOFH who own$ the server you happen to get your feed from - or one of
the upstream ISP servers that many gets their feeds from - can do pretty
much what he bloody well likes. Politicks or no.

Some even pay money for guaranteed
unrestricted-by-RIAA-and-Other-Nazi-Derivatives news (complete with mp3's,
divx's, warez and all).
 
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