Small, highly motivated, unconventional forces can ruin the day for
RIW, reduction-in-wives.On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:06:18 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:51:52 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:39:44 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
[snip]
I had to tear it down and hone it out twice before she totalled
it and lost her spleen. Good riddance [1].
John
[1] ambiguity intentional.
Gee! John! I don't get your gist ;-)
It seems he just vented his.
That wasn't a vent, it was a riff.
John
As in reduction in force ?
Wow, that was some pretty good riding. I'd have been tumbling along
The big debate around here is whether to add suicide barriers to theI read in sci.electronics.design that Terry Given <my_name@ieee.org
wrote (in <18bZd.9441$1S4.1000730@news.xtra.co.nz>
product design student is looking for an internship', on Mon, 14 Mar
2005:
not quite. It was complete, just oscillated like a SOB. The millenium
bridge across the river Thames is another good example of that.
Both Tacoma and the Millennium Bridge suffered from **previously
unknown** effects. Not the same as bad or ignorant design.
Will the study include an effort to estimate how many
about 'A french product design student is looking for anDrain the Bay, to prevent them drowning. Or spend the $2 million on
<snort>
any good links?I have had a few good kicks in the nuts at Karate over the years, but
they were all my fault for not paying attention.
snip
Agreed wrt counters, we do a lot of arm conditioning for that express
purpose ie all blocks are strikes. Fluid, circular motion coupled with
dynamic tension delivers force where required and nowhere else. fast is
good, faster is better
ground fighting, against multiple opponents too. Biting can be very
effective.
Shoto Kahn emphasised hard blocks. Hapkido is the Korean version of
Aikido. Means the same - Art of power control. It's Segal's form
along with [probably] Shoto Kahn. The Korean Secret Service trains
in it. They guard the Blue House. Interesting history how was born
and went underground to survive the Japanese occupation.
yep. and fast.
Bah Humbug!I read in sci.electronics.design that Paul Burke <paul@scazon.com> wrote
(in <39lkhlF62gsv2U1@individual.net>
student is looking for an internship', on Mon, 14 Mar 2005:
Terry Given wrote:
The Millennium bridge was IIRC due to the (rather typical in civil
engineering) use of approximations rather than detailed analysis -
specifically they didnt even consider oscillations of that type, so
didnt check for them.
Well, that's more or less what I meant. Torsional oscillation wasn't
expected to be a problem with that type of construction, so it wasn't
checked.
Yeah, I betcha there were a few red faces there
They missed a golden opportunity back then. All they had to do was
rename it the Millennium Cakewalk, and wait for the crowds to roll up.
A lot of people wanted to leave it alone, but the Health and Safety
people killed that.
Or how about: Less talk and more chalk (as in outline).John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:24:12 +0000, John Woodgate
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:
I read in sci.electronics.design that Terry Given <my_name@ieee.org
wrote (in <18bZd.9441$1S4.1000730@news.xtra.co.nz>
product design student is looking for an internship', on Mon, 14 Mar
2005:
not quite. It was complete, just oscillated like a SOB. The
millenium bridge across the river Thames is another good example of
that.
Both Tacoma and the Millennium Bridge suffered from **previously
unknown** effects. Not the same as bad or ignorant design.
The big debate around here is whether to add suicide barriers to the
Golden Gate bridge. It would mess up the aesthetics and aerodynamics
both. There's been something like 1400 jumpers so far, a few of which
survived. They just approved a $2 million *study*.
John
Crazy. Why bother to stop suicides anyway? I think suicidal people
should be encouraged to kill themselves, perhaps even shown how to do it
properly so they dont botch the job and cost the taxpayer healthcare
funding that would be better spent on someone who *didnt* want to die.
Cheers
Terry
Right. As someone said here recently: less chat and more splat!
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 08:24:12 +0000, John Woodgate
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:
I read in sci.electronics.design that Terry Given <my_name@ieee.org
wrote (in <18bZd.9441$1S4.1000730@news.xtra.co.nz>
product design student is looking for an internship', on Mon, 14 Mar
2005:
not quite. It was complete, just oscillated like a SOB. The millenium
bridge across the river Thames is another good example of that.
Both Tacoma and the Millennium Bridge suffered from **previously
unknown** effects. Not the same as bad or ignorant design.
The big debate around here is whether to add suicide barriers to the
Golden Gate bridge. It would mess up the aesthetics and aerodynamics
both. There's been something like 1400 jumpers so far, a few of which
survived. They just approved a $2 million *study*.
ONE is definitely enough ;-)On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:25:34 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:06:18 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:51:52 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:39:44 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
[snip]
I had to tear it down and hone it out twice before she totalled
it and lost her spleen. Good riddance [1].
John
[1] ambiguity intentional.
Gee! John! I don't get your gist ;-)
It seems he just vented his.
That wasn't a vent, it was a riff.
John
As in reduction in force ?
RIW, reduction-in-wives.
John
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All over the place
remember it all. Time for a refresher. The original master of what
Hi Mike,On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:52:20 +1300, Terry Given wrote:
Active8 wrote:
snip
[...]Interesting history how was born
and went underground to survive the Japanese occupation.
any good links?
All over the place
I was given a small photocopied book when I started. I wish I could
remember it all. Time for a refresher. The original master of what
became Hap Ki Do had his students each dig a 1" deep ditch with
their hands, jump in, jump out, dig another inch, etc., 'til it was
as deep as they were tall. I think they then started filling it in -
the reverse.
You might google on Hwarang Do - It sounds like the root of the word
harangue, eh?
http://www.hwarangdoeastcoast.com/
That link desc. says it means "The Way of the Flowering Manhood",
but I remember "The Way of the Flowering Child" I'm prob wrong.
IIRC, it (Hap Ki Do) started somwhere with them. I remember
something about or related to it being only studied by a bunch of
"dandies" at one time. I think that's what is referred to as "A
group of elite young noblemen" in this link:
http://www.universalmartialarts.com/hapkido.htm
The water principle definition at that link is lame. Here's a better
one:
http://www.sungjado.org/warriorforchrist.html
- we called it "mind of water". Then there was "mind of moon". It
shines light on everything under it. It reveals things. I didn't
find a link on that.
http://www.allmartialarts.com/KIXCO/History/hapkido.htm
That brings back some memory, except there can be weapons involved -
like the cane. Master Lee sometimes used the cane. I thought the
dragon was cool. After the normal stretching and excersizes, he'd
make us run wheel barrow races and other such physical challenges. I
hated the chicken (duck walk - "Odie-odie" "quack-quack") The
"kitchen" was a joke we came up with. "Did you say chicken or
kitchen?" Same thing, but you hop and don't quack. The dragon was
great. You line up behind each other in the front-leaning rest
(push-up position) and put your feet on the person's shoulders
behind you and everyone walks on their hands.
Contrast Aikido:
http://www.allmartialarts.com/KIXCO/History/aikido.htm
Another:
http://www.hapkiyoosool.com/hist.htm
In the second link it says Hap Ki Do uses small circles and Aikido
uses large ones. There's a philosophy disaggreement here I think,
because my instructors had us "move the arm" more. Use a bigger
circle. But we used small circles, too.
You'll find variations on the definition of Hap Ki Do. I gave what
Master Lee told us. The Chinese "chi" is the equiv of the Korean
"ki", BTW.
Eg: "Literally translated, the word Hap means coordination of
harmony, Ki denotes the essence of power, and Do means the art, or
the way"
Tai Kwon Do is the art of hand and foot. It's good cross training.
Aikido is stricktly defensive and Hap Ki Do is more offensive. IOW,
when Segal punches, it's Shoto Kahn. If I strike, it's the part of
Hap Ki Do I do after taking control of the attacker's power and
redirecting it. Unless I decide to call it something else, since
many forms use strikes. The joint locks are pretty cool, too. They
didn't use the reverse-punch style much, though it worked better
closing the door on my old Blazer than the haymaker style. There's
nothing I can come up with to indicate that snapping your opposite
hip adds to the force.
A tree:
http://www.allmartialarts.com/KIXCO/History/history/map.htm
http://www.martial-way.com/hapkido.html
Well, that brought back some memory.
Much of that piecemeal history is wives' tales. The fact is the colonial
area that offer internships?
managing to make a good living at designing. Some even are gettingHi Bertrand,
I hope you are not too disillusioned by the responses and comments you have
read resulting from your posting. I don't really think there is malicious
intent but unfortunately many posts are hijacked by "comedians" who think of
themselves as very clever, when in fact they are a bunch of has-been's who
spend all their time making what they consider to be clever remarks and not
contributing anything to the usefulness of the group. I have observed that
in most cases any technical comments or suggestions they make are way off
the mark or down right foolish. I hope you are successful in finding what is
you are seeking.
Good luck!
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Gregory L. Hansen <glhansen@steel.
ucs.indiana.edu> wrote (in <d0vc3m$i9q$1@rainier.uits.indiana.edu>
about 'A french product design student is looking for an internship', on
Sat, 12 Mar 2005:
"Will we be suturing the anus?"
"Certainly not! He'd never speak again."
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The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
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So do I! Although I'm in the US there are still designers who are
LOL. That's a no-shitter.
think it produces white blood cells - an immuno defense. At any