why are cheap LCD televisions so dismal?

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I have seen two LCD tellies for sale at $299, while
most other brands are $400 to $500 for their small
models. The $299 specimens had a terrible picture.
For one of the cheapies, I saw the specications,
which included contrast ratio of 700, but it
looked more like a 7:1 ratio.
Why are the cheapies so bad? Is the manufacturer
using reject components or what?
 
<u235bomb@ml1.net>
I have seen two LCD tellies for sale at $299, while
most other brands are $400 to $500 for their small
models. The $299 specimens had a terrible picture.
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** Makes and models - please.


For one of the cheapies, I saw the specications,
which included contrast ratio of 700, but it
looked more like a 7:1 ratio.
Why are the cheapies so bad? Is the manufacturer
using reject components or what?
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** Had an " AWA" brand LCD monitor/ TV here in my workshop a week or two
ago.

The pic and sound were really excellent.

Customer bought from Big W for $ 299.





....... Phil
 
"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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u235bomb@ml1.net

I have seen two LCD tellies for sale at $299, while
most other brands are $400 to $500 for their small
models. The $299 specimens had a terrible picture.


** Makes and models - please.


For one of the cheapies, I saw the specications,
which included contrast ratio of 700, but it
looked more like a 7:1 ratio.
Why are the cheapies so bad? Is the manufacturer
using reject components or what?


** Had an " AWA" brand LCD monitor/ TV here in my workshop a week or two
ago.
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Which "workshop" is that Phil?
The one at 3 / 19 Prospect Rd, Summer Hill?
Which just happens to be your bed-sit flat. LOL

The pic and sound were really excellent.
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Which begs the question, why bring it to you?
Don't you fix toasters?
Besides, if the picture and sound were really excellent was it a cosmetic
repair?

Customer bought from Big W for $ 299.





...... Phil
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In article <46fc70f8$0$4527$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au says...
"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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u235bomb@ml1.net

I have seen two LCD tellies for sale at $299, while
most other brands are $400 to $500 for their small
models. The $299 specimens had a terrible picture.


** Makes and models - please.


For one of the cheapies, I saw the specications,
which included contrast ratio of 700, but it
looked more like a 7:1 ratio.
Why are the cheapies so bad? Is the manufacturer
using reject components or what?


** Had an " AWA" brand LCD monitor/ TV here in my workshop a week or two
ago.

Which "workshop" is that Phil?
Click to expand...

The sheltered one.
 
Alan Rutlidge wrote:

Which "workshop" is that Phil?
The one at 3 / 19 Prospect Rd, Summer Hill?
Which just happens to be your bed-sit flat. LOL
Click to expand...
Oh crap. Thank you very much for that, dammit.

I knew Phil was _somewhere_ in Australia, but was content in believing he
was somewhere in the far reaches of nowhere, where not even the stupidest wild
animals dare venture.

That address places us as almost neighbours.

Crap. Now I have to move. Perth sounds nice.
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In article <46fc70f8$0$4527$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au says...

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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u235bomb@ml1.net

I have seen two LCD tellies for sale at $299, while
most other brands are $400 to $500 for their small
models. The $299 specimens had a terrible picture.


** Makes and models - please.


For one of the cheapies, I saw the specications,
which included contrast ratio of 700, but it
looked more like a 7:1 ratio.
Why are the cheapies so bad? Is the manufacturer
using reject components or what?


** Had an " AWA" brand LCD monitor/ TV here in my workshop a week or
two
ago.

Which "workshop" is that Phil?


The sheltered one.
Click to expand...
Post of the Week :)

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Alan Rutlidge wrote:
Which begs the question, why bring it to you?
Don't you fix toasters?
Click to expand...

Not according to the "Society for the prevention of cruelty to
toasters". :(


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John Tserkezis wrote:
Alan Rutlidge wrote:

Which "workshop" is that Phil?
The one at 3 / 19 Prospect Rd, Summer Hill?
Which just happens to be your bed-sit flat. LOL

Oh crap. Thank you very much for that, dammit.

I knew Phil was _somewhere_ in Australia, but was content in believing he
was somewhere in the far reaches of nowhere, where not even the stupidest wild
animals dare venture.

That address places us as almost neighbours.

Crap. Now I have to move. Perth sounds nice.
Click to expand...

For you, or him?


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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
On Sep 28, 1:46 pm, John Tserkezis
<j...@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote:
Alan Rutlidge wrote:
Which "workshop" is that Phil?
The one at 3 / 19 Prospect Rd, Summer Hill?
Which just happens to be your bed-sit flat. LOL

Oh crap. Thank you very much for that, dammit.

I knew Phil was _somewhere_ in Australia, but was content in believing he
was somewhere in the far reaches of nowhere, where not even the stupidest wild
animals dare venture.

That address places us as almost neighbours.

Crap. Now I have to move. Perth sounds nice.
Click to expand...
Unit's in #19 go up for sale all the time (I wonder why?), that could
be your opportunity to confront your deepest fears and move into the
same block!

Dave.
 
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:46FC88BC.5F1EF9B2@earthlink.net...
Alan Rutlidge wrote:

Which begs the question, why bring it to you?
Don't you fix toasters?


Not according to the "Society for the prevention of cruelty to
toasters". :(
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ROTFLMAO Good one Michael. Nuttin' like a good laugh to start the weekend
off with. :)

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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Crap. Now I have to move. Perth sounds nice.

For you, or him?
Click to expand...
Sadyly, for both of us.

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John Tserkezis wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Crap. Now I have to move. Perth sounds nice.

For you, or him?

Sadyly, for both of us.
Click to expand...

Doesn't Australia have an 'Environmental Protection Agency" ? If you
could just have him declared as toxic waste....

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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
Alan Rutlidge wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:46FC88BC.5F1EF9B2@earthlink.net...
Alan Rutlidge wrote:

Which begs the question, why bring it to you?
Don't you fix toasters?


Not according to the "Society for the prevention of cruelty to
toasters". :(

ROTFLMAO Good one Michael. Nuttin' like a good laugh to start the weekend
off with. :)
Click to expand...

Especially when its at some troll's expense! ;-)


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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
It's called, "getting what you pay for". Naturally, at the lower price, it
is impossible to have the same debt of design. There are costs in
manufacturing these sets.

Try looking at the high end name brand sets that are in the over $1200 price
range, and you will see even a greater difference!!!

--

JANA
_____


<u235bomb@ml1.net> wrote in message
news:1190947439.531107.77600@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
I have seen two LCD tellies for sale at $299, while
most other brands are $400 to $500 for their small
models. The $299 specimens had a terrible picture.
For one of the cheapies, I saw the specications,
which included contrast ratio of 700, but it
looked more like a 7:1 ratio.
Why are the cheapies so bad? Is the manufacturer
using reject components or what?
 
You get what you pay for.

Rudolf

<u235bomb@ml1.net> wrote in message
news:1190947439.531107.77600@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
I have seen two LCD tellies for sale at $299, while
most other brands are $400 to $500 for their small
models. The $299 specimens had a terrible picture.
For one of the cheapies, I saw the specications,
which included contrast ratio of 700, but it
looked more like a 7:1 ratio.
Why are the cheapies so bad? Is the manufacturer
using reject components or what?
Click to expand...
 
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:43:59 -0700, u235bomb@ml1.net wrote:

I have seen two LCD tellies for sale at $299, while
most other brands are $400 to $500 for their small
models. The $299 specimens had a terrible picture.
For one of the cheapies, I saw the specications,
which included contrast ratio of 700, but it
looked more like a 7:1 ratio.
Why are the cheapies so bad? Is the manufacturer
using reject components or what?
Click to expand...
I don't know what you saw.

However, the shops often mal-adjust the cheaper TV's as compared to
the expensive TV's to assist in "talking you up" to a more expensive
TV.

I've never found any TV you couldn't set up to be of acceptable
quality.

Ross
 
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:43:59 -0700, u235bomb@ml1.net put finger to
keyboard and composed:

I have seen two LCD tellies for sale at $299, while
most other brands are $400 to $500 for their small
models. The $299 specimens had a terrible picture.
For one of the cheapies, I saw the specications,
which included contrast ratio of 700, but it
looked more like a 7:1 ratio.
Why are the cheapies so bad? Is the manufacturer
using reject components or what?
Click to expand...
I don't know about the smaller sets, but I recently helped my father
choose a widescreen 81cm LCD TV. There were several off-brand sets,
none of which were visibly inferior, yet I opted for an LG primarily
due to fear of poor support from the cheapies. One set had poor colour
rendition (flesh tones looked too red), but the salesman was able to
adjust it fairly easily via the user menu.

- Franc Zabkar
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On Oct 1, 2:09 pm, ebff_q...@lnubb.pbz (RMD) wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:43:59 -0700, u235b...@ml1.net wrote:
I have seen two LCD tellies for sale at $299, while
most other brands are $400 to $500 for their small
models. The $299 specimens had a terrible picture.
For one of the cheapies, I saw the specications,
which included contrast ratio of 700, but it
looked more like a 7:1 ratio.
Why are the cheapies so bad? Is the manufacturer
using reject components or what?

I don't know what you saw.

However, the shops often mal-adjust the cheaper TV's as compared to
the expensive TV's to assist in "talking you up" to a more expensive
TV.

I've never found any TV you couldn't set up to be of acceptable
quality.
Click to expand...
Even the ones with the dead pixels?
Lots of the cheap no-name small LCD TV's are knowingly supplied with
and sold as having dead pixels.

Dave.
 
"David L. Jones" wrote:
On Oct 1, 2:09 pm, ebff_q...@lnubb.pbz (RMD) wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:43:59 -0700, u235b...@ml1.net wrote:
I have seen two LCD tellies for sale at $299, while
most other brands are $400 to $500 for their small
models. The $299 specimens had a terrible picture.
For one of the cheapies, I saw the specications,
which included contrast ratio of 700, but it
looked more like a 7:1 ratio.
Why are the cheapies so bad? Is the manufacturer
using reject components or what?

I don't know what you saw.

However, the shops often mal-adjust the cheaper TV's as compared to
the expensive TV's to assist in "talking you up" to a more expensive
TV.

I've never found any TV you couldn't set up to be of acceptable
quality.

Even the ones with the dead pixels?
Lots of the cheap no-name small LCD TV's are knowingly supplied with
and sold as having dead pixels.
Click to expand...

No extra charge for the decorative black spots! ;-)

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
I don't know about the smaller sets, but I recently helped my father
choose a widescreen 81cm LCD TV. There were several off-brand sets,
none of which were visibly inferior, yet I opted for an LG primarily
due to fear of poor support from the cheapies. One set had poor colour
rendition (flesh tones looked too red), but the salesman was able to
adjust it fairly easily via the user menu.
Click to expand...
You will be surprised how bad service can be with big brands and how good it
can be with cheap ones. I am doing warranty repairs for a bunch of smaller
brands and I do not want to touch big ones! Way too much hassle and mess.
Of course, there are exclusions from the rules. (I am not going to mention
names).
BTW, many cheaper LCDs use LG panels, so you may as well get a cheaper one
and effectively get same TV as LG.
Dead pixels. When panel is made, some dead pixels do occur sometime. Panel
has to be thrown away. Hence the price tag, especially on the larger panels.
Each bad panel adds to the cost of good ones.
Some manufacturers pick up those bad panels and sell them in cheap TVs.
Nothing wrong with that, as long as you know what you are buying. For some
applications (security monitors for example), couple of dead pixels won't
matter.

In the end -- you get what you paid for, although, I believe, this is not so
true when talking about expensive big names.

Rudolf
 
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