Very Pricey Radio ?

[Phil Allison]

** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ280171016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


$ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ??





........ Phil

 

[Bob Parker]

On 19/11/2007 14:19 Phil Allison wrote:

** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ280171016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


$ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ??


....... Phil

Considering its condition, that's mind-boggling .....

Untested. May only be good for spare parts.
Case is a bit worn but should polish up ok. Small piece broken off the
bottom at the back around one of the mounting screws and a crack by the
corresponding screw on the other side.
Transfer on the back of the glass dial has half lifted off.
Speaker cloth dirty and a bit floppy.
Not sure if the knobs are original.
A bit dirty inside with some surface rust.
Power cord has been snipped off.

I wonder how much someone would pay if it worked?



Bob

 

[David L. Jones]

On Nov 19, 2:19 pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0Q...

$ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ??

....... Phil

Yes, does sound hard to believe.
Bought by a person with a feedback of 1. So might just be the seller
putting in a fake auction to get some "price history" on the product
before duping someone for real. Wait and see if it pops up again in
few weeks.

Dave.

 

[TT]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:5qcdmsFvafq0U1@mid.individual.net...
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: ** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe:
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ280171016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
:
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: $ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio
??
:
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:
: ....... Phil
:
You're only cranky because someone beat you to the verge
collection that week!

TT

 

[Trevor Wilson]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:5qcdmsFvafq0U1@mid.individual.net...

** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ280171016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


$ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ??

**Cool. There's a couple of those things at the back of my mum's garage. I
think I know what I want for Christmas.

Trevor Wilson

 

[Kim Elve]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:5qcdmsFvafq0U1@mid.individual.net...

** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ280171016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


$ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ??


....... Phil

Bizzare? Thought it may, in some way, be rare/valuable - but not if this
other reference (and the only one I came across with a quick bit of
searching) to a Skyraider radio is anything to go by...
http://www.southcom.com.au/~pauledgr/Skyraider.htm
Cheers

 

[Suzy]

"Kim Elve" <kelve@gdportal.com> wrote in message
news:47418ae3$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:5qcdmsFvafq0U1@mid.individual.net...

** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ280171016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


$ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ??


....... Phil

Bizzare? Thought it may, in some way, be rare/valuable - but not if this
other reference (and the only one I came across with a quick bit of
searching) to a Skyraider radio is anything to go by...
http://www.southcom.com.au/~pauledgr/Skyraider.htm
Cheers
Something very wrong here. One of my hobbies is old radio gear and there is

absolutely no way any plastic radio would fetch that price. A tenth of it
just possibly but even 1920s gear on wooden baseboards with ebonite panels
fetches around half that price at the most, and there are only one or two
plastic models that a truly sought after and can command prices of aroung
$300-$400.
>

 

[Phil Allison]

"Phil Allison"

** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ280171016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


$ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ??

** The seller ( ecocivic ) is now claiming he got the money yesterday.

Click on " cilmery38 " to see the feedback.


I see it, but I doaaaannnnnn believe it.





....... Phil

 

[David L. Jones]

On Nov 20, 2:03 pm, "Phil Allison" <philalli...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

"Phil Allison"



** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0Q...

$ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ??

** The seller ( ecocivic ) is now claiming he got the money yesterday.

Click on " cilmery38 " to see the feedback.

I see it, but I doaaaannnnnn believe it.

...... Phil

I hate it how you can't see who the bidders are once it gets to $300
or whatever it is.
All the bidders except the final bidder have been on eBay for years,
and have 50+ feedback.
So if the seller is putting in fake bids to up the price, he/she may
have has been at it for many years now.
"Bidder 5" originally put $800 on it, and then upped that to $4250!
"Bidder 5" has an 18% bid history with this seller, and "Bidder 6" has
20%. Quite an incestuous little industry happening there in the
Collectables > Radio, Phonograph, Phone > Radio group!
Hilarious!

Dave.

 

[GB]

"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in
news:3dc3e0c2-3eb4-462b-adf1-e7f909bdffb1@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

I hate it how you can't see who the bidders are once it gets to $300
or whatever it is.

That is, of course, to "protect" buyers. It is also, I suspect,
to "protect" the rest of us from having to view dodgy deeds and
shenanigans (or rather, to "protect" us from being able to do
anything about it).

Remember always, eBay's *only* loyalty is to itself. They couldn't
give a flying fire truck about the legitimacy of the deals done on
their site. What they *do* care about is the *apparent* legitimacy
of deals done on their site...

All the bidders except the final bidder have been on eBay for years,
and have 50+ feedback.
So if the seller is putting in fake bids to up the price, he/she may
have has been at it for many years now.
"Bidder 5" originally put $800 on it, and then upped that to $4250!
"Bidder 5" has an 18% bid history with this seller, and "Bidder 6" has
20%. Quite an incestuous little industry happening there in the
Collectables > Radio, Phonograph, Phone > Radio group!

It has been my experience that if one puts together a half-coherent
spiel detailing the shenanigans that you've observed, eBay will pull
the plug on the seller quicker than you can say "that looks a bit
sus'". They won't read it carefully, and they don't particularly
care for details, but they will shoot first and ask questions later.
Once the plug is pulled it will be up to the dodgy seller to squirm
and wriggle his way back into business. Whether or not the seller
gets their 3000+ feedback back is all a matter of how committed he
is to doing so.

Hilarious!

Not so funny for the poor bastard who ends up paying ten times
what that radio is worth!


GB
--
"Most police misconduct occurs when citizens challenge an individual
officer's authority" (Reiss, 1971 c.in Jermier & Berkes 1979)

 

[Alan Rutlidge]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:5qf13nFv1qg0U1@mid.individual.net...

"Phil Allison"

** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ280171016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


$ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ??


** The seller ( ecocivic ) is now claiming he got the money yesterday.

Click on " cilmery38 " to see the feedback.


I see it, but I doaaaannnnnn believe it.





...... Phil

Don't worry Phil. Sooner or later there will be a similar over-priced
market for second-hand vintage and art-deco toasters.
With all your "fix it" expertise in this area, you could make a killing so
to say.

 

[Phil Allison]

"rodney the fucking idiot "

"GB"

Not so funny for the poor bastard who ends up paying ten times
what that radio is worth!


I think ...

** A complete fallacy.

we all may carry an opinion on the transaction,

** Speak only for yourself - you fuckwit, posturing turd.

however I see no reason to be indignant,

** Asinine, self obsessed, ASD fucked pricks see nothing at all.

there appears to be a lack of fraudulent behaviour,

** Spoken like a blind man grasping an elephant's tail and declaring -
ahhh, an elephant is just like a snake.

and there has been an offer and acceptance if the deal is to be believed.

** Not the slightest proof exists of either.

The radio in this case is not worth your estimation, but the purchaser's.

** A brain dead , morally bankrupt pile of sub human garbage would say
that.

Now wouldn't he ????





....... Phil

 

[rodney]

"GB" <gb0807@kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> wrote in message

Not so funny for the poor bastard who ends up paying ten times
what that radio is worth!

I think we all may carry an opinion on the transaction, however
I see no reason to be indignant, there appears to be a lack
of fraudulent behaviour, and there has been an offer and acceptance
if the deal is to be believed.
The radio in this case is not worth your estimation, but the purchaser's.

 

[Suzy]

"GB" <gb0807@kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> wrote in message
news:13k5ie8f5idda93@corp.supernews.com...

"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in
news:3dc3e0c2-3eb4-462b-adf1-e7f909bdffb1@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
I hate it how you can't see who the bidders are once it gets to $300
or whatever it is.

That is, of course, to "protect" buyers. It is also, I suspect,
to "protect" the rest of us from having to view dodgy deeds and
shenanigans (or rather, to "protect" us from being able to do
anything about it).

Remember always, eBay's *only* loyalty is to itself. They couldn't
give a flying fire truck about the legitimacy of the deals done on
their site. What they *do* care about is the *apparent* legitimacy
of deals done on their site...

All the bidders except the final bidder have been on eBay for years,
and have 50+ feedback.
So if the seller is putting in fake bids to up the price, he/she may
have has been at it for many years now.
"Bidder 5" originally put $800 on it, and then upped that to $4250!
"Bidder 5" has an 18% bid history with this seller, and "Bidder 6" has
20%. Quite an incestuous little industry happening there in the
Collectables > Radio, Phonograph, Phone > Radio group!

It has been my experience that if one puts together a half-coherent
spiel detailing the shenanigans that you've observed, eBay will pull
the plug on the seller quicker than you can say "that looks a bit
sus'". They won't read it carefully, and they don't particularly
care for details, but they will shoot first and ask questions later.
Once the plug is pulled it will be up to the dodgy seller to squirm
and wriggle his way back into business. Whether or not the seller
gets their 3000+ feedback back is all a matter of how committed he
is to doing so.


Hilarious!

Not so funny for the poor bastard who ends up paying ten times
what that radio is worth!


GB
--
"Most police misconduct occurs when citizens challenge an individual
officer's authority" (Reiss, 1971 c.in Jermier & Berkes 1979)

And no doubt posters have noticed the infuriating multiple "hits" whenever
*anything* is asked on Google. I always put eBay in the "without" box to
avoid this tiresome rubbish.

 

[GB]

"rodney" <pookiethai@NOSPAMiprimus.com.au> wrote in news:4742e505$0$19822
$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net:

I think we all may carry an opinion on the transaction, however
I see no reason to be indignant, there appears to be a lack
of fraudulent behaviour, and there has been an offer and acceptance
if the deal is to be believed.
The radio in this case is not worth your estimation, but the purchaser's.

I think you're missing the point: there is no purchaser. The likely
situation here is that the seller and the purchaser are the same
person. He shills up the price to a ridiculously high level, offers
the item for sale again a week later using the eBay 'sale' as 'evidence'
of the item's 'worth' despite that it 'fell through' for reasons
beyond his control.


GB
--
"Most police misconduct occurs when citizens challenge an individual
officer's authority" (Reiss, 1971 c.in Jermier & Berkes 1979)

 

[rodney]

"GB" <gb0807@kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> wrote in message

I think you're missing the point: there is no purchaser. The likely
situation here is that the seller and the purchaser are the same
person. He shills up the price to a ridiculously high level, offers
the item for sale again a week later using the eBay 'sale' as 'evidence'
of the item's 'worth' despite that it 'fell through' for reasons
beyond his control.
GB

No, I took the point GB, but that is speculation.
would not the vendor have to pay ebay the fee
for the dummy sale in that case?
Rod.

 

[David L. Jones]

On Nov 21, 11:12 am, "rodney" <pookiet...@NOSPAMiprimus.com.au> wrote:

"GB" <gb0...@kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> wrote in message
I think you're missing the point: there is no purchaser. The likely
situation here is that the seller and the purchaser are the same
person. He shills up the price to a ridiculously high level, offers
the item for sale again a week later using the eBay 'sale' as 'evidence'
of the item's 'worth' despite that it 'fell through' for reasons
beyond his control.
GB

No, I took the point GB, but that is speculation.
would not the vendor have to pay ebay the fee
for the dummy sale in that case?

Yes he does have to pay it (unless he claims the buyer did not pay and
files a "dispute", but you can't do this often). But that fee is
insignificant if he gets an extra few hundred bucks (or more) the next
time it sells to a real sucker. He only has to make an extra profit
like that on one sale to pay for lots of other fake sales to "setup"
his little vintage radio business over time.

Dave.

 

[rodney]

"David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:edceadf5-f803-430b-958a-

Yes he does have to pay it (unless he claims the buyer did not pay and
files a "dispute", but you can't do this often). But that fee is
insignificant if he gets an extra few hundred bucks (or more) the next
time it sells to a real sucker. He only has to make an extra profit
like that on one sale to pay for lots of other fake sales to "setup"
his little vintage radio business over time.
Dave.

Cheers, thanks for the clarification Dave.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Suzy wrote:

Something very wrong here. One of my hobbies is old radio gear and there is
absolutely no way any plastic radio would fetch that price. A tenth of it
just possibly but even 1920s gear on wooden baseboards with ebonite panels
fetches around half that price at the most, and there are only one or two
plastic models that a truly sought after and can command prices of aroung
$300-$400.

Catalin (a type of early plastic) radios are rare, because most of
the cabinets made from Catalin have disintegrated. The survivors bring
BIG bucks. If you don't believe me, ask on
news:rec.antiques.radio+phono.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[TT]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:5qg8i1F102c6sU1@mid.individual.net...

"rodney the f***ing idiot "

Pot - Kettle - Toaster - Black - again!

<snipped usual assinine abuse>

...... Phillthy the liar

As the Full Moon approaches me thinks Philthy should start taking his meds

again!

TT