Very few solar panels on new houses

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On 12/6/19 4:20 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:13:27 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
wrote:



"Daniel60" <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote in message
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Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:

Snip

You know this for every supplier in the world?

Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make real
money
instead of stealing it from the taxpayer.  But in most places,
solar
panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a couple of
AA
batteries.

No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels that I
installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.

Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight
levels, my
Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the day) was
$21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the panel
costs
in
about 17.5 years.

O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that time,
but,
then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power myself for
that
time!!

Taking into account the greater quantity of power I will(/have) be
generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced (to,
maybe, 10 years'ish!!).

Just saying!!

I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even.  Ever
heard
of an ISA?

No!

Might be a British acronym.  It's a long term savings account.

Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ...

Yep.

what we in Australia call Superannuation??

Nope, that's compulsory. The poms call that NI, National Insurance.

You don't have to pay that.

You might not, we do, no choice.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
 
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On 12/6/19 9:09 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:45:49 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
wrote:



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On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:21:57 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
wrote:

devnull <devnull@127.0.0.1> wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

In the above cases, the EU is free to change them later. We simply
leave
right now, and everything stays as it is. Then we go about changing
rules to suit ourselves and each other, as though the EU had never
existed.

Why not just change to Sharia law?

His dick is so small that once they hacked the end off it, there
wouldn't
be anything left.

Thought it was just the Jewish filth that did that?

Nope, the moslems and yanks do it too.

The yanks do it because they think it's cleaner, not for religion.

So you think the moslems and jews *don't* do it for cleanliness?

Corse they don't, they do it because they are actually stupid
enough to believe that some god or other told them to do that.

There is other viable explanation for why the jews
hack the ends of uncircumcised jewish corpses.

> You would be wrong.

Nope.

A lot of these attitudes to certain things only become *ritual* after a
long period of use or even enforcement because of cleanliness.

Bullshit with both.
 
Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 9:54 PM:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:32:27 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:

Snip

You know this for every supplier in the world?

Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make real
money
instead of stealing it from the taxpayer.  But in most places, solar
panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a couple
of AA
batteries.

No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels that I
installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.

Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight levels, my
Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the day) was
$21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the panel
costs in
about 17.5 years.

O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that time, but,
then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power myself for
that
time!!

Taking into account the greater quantity of power I will(/have) be
generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced (to,
maybe, 10 years'ish!!).

Just saying!!

I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even.  Ever heard
of an ISA?

No!

Might be a British acronym.  It's a long term savings account.

Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ... what we in
Australia call Superannuation??

No idea, I don't have one.  You put money in and don't touch it for 5
years and earn a higher interest rate.

Ah!! O.K., so not like our Superannuation then ... 'cause we're not
supposed to touch that until about age 68.
--
Daniel
 
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 10:25:33 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

Wrong, as always.

Pathological, as always! <tsk>

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On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 12:49:11 +1000, Xeno, another brain damaged,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:


So you think the moslems and jews *don't* do it for cleanliness? You
would be wrong. A lot of these attitudes to certain things only become
*ritual* after a long period of use or even enforcement because of
cleanliness.

What has all this shit got to do with ANY of the FOUR ngs you keep
crossposting it too, you senile ASSHOLES?
 
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 14:42:17 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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<FLUSH all the senile trollshit>

....and much better air in here again!

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On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 10:24:38 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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<FLUSH the two prize idiots' latest trollshit>

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On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 16:51:57 +1000, Daniel60, another brain damaged,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:


Ah!! O.K., so not like our Superannuation then ... 'cause we're not
supposed to touch that until about age 68.

You are not supposed to suck troll cock, senile sucker of troll cock!
 
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 12:52:50 +1000, Xeno, another brain damaged,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:


You might not, we do, no choice.

I understand that you senile Australians seem to have a special knack for
sucking British troll cock and constantly getting on your knees before your
former lords. <BG>
 
"Daniel60" <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote in message
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Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 9:54 PM:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:32:27 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:

Snip

You know this for every supplier in the world?

Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make real
money
instead of stealing it from the taxpayer. But in most places,
solar
panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a couple of
AA
batteries.

No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels that I
installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.

Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight levels,
my
Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the day) was
$21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the panel
costs in
about 17.5 years.

O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that time,
but,
then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power myself for
that
time!!

Taking into account the greater quantity of power I will(/have) be
generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced (to,
maybe, 10 years'ish!!).

Just saying!!

I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even. Ever
heard
of an ISA?

No!

Might be a British acronym. It's a long term savings account.

Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ... what we in
Australia call Superannuation??

No idea, I don't have one. You put money in and don't touch it for 5
years and earn a higher interest rate.

Ah!! O.K., so not like our Superannuation then ... 'cause we're not
supposed to touch that until about age 68.

55-60 actually depending on when you were born.

And that only applys to preserved benefits, not to the others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superannuation_in_Australia#Access_to_superannuation
 
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 19:28:51 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Ah!! O.K., so not like our Superannuation then ... 'cause we're not
supposed to touch that until about age 68.

55-60 actually depending on when you were born.

LOL Auto-contradicting senile arsehole!

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On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:49:11 +0100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 12/6/19 9:09 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:45:49 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:21:57 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
wrote:

devnull <devnull@127.0.0.1> wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

In the above cases, the EU is free to change them later. We simply
leave
right now, and everything stays as it is. Then we go about changing
rules to suit ourselves and each other, as though the EU had never
existed.

Why not just change to Sharia law?

His dick is so small that once they hacked the end off it, there
wouldn't
be anything left.

Thought it was just the Jewish filth that did that?

Nope, the moslems and yanks do it too.

The yanks do it because they think it's cleaner, not for religion.

So you think the moslems and jews *don't* do it for cleanliness? You
would be wrong. A lot of these attitudes to certain things only become
*ritual* after a long period of use or even enforcement because of
cleanliness.

Do you really think we would have evolved with a part that isn't required and causes problems? If it's better not to have it, we wouldn't grow it.
 
On 13/6/19 12:52 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:49:11 +0100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 12/6/19 9:09 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:45:49 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:21:57 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
wrote:

devnull <devnull@127.0.0.1> wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

In the above cases, the EU is free to change them later.  We simply
leave
right now, and everything stays as it is.  Then we go about
changing
rules to suit ourselves and each other, as though the EU had never
existed.

Why not just change to Sharia law?

His dick is so small that once they hacked the end off it, there
wouldn't
be anything left.

Thought it was just the Jewish filth that did that?

Nope, the moslems and yanks do it too.

The yanks do it because they think it's cleaner, not for religion.

So you think the moslems and jews *don't* do it for cleanliness? You
would be wrong. A lot of these attitudes to certain things only become
*ritual* after a long period of use or even enforcement because of
cleanliness.

Do you really think we would have evolved with a part that isn't
required and causes problems?  If it's better not to have it, we
wouldn't grow it.

So why do we have an Appendix??? It had a function - once.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)
 
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 16:27:38 +0100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 13/6/19 12:52 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:49:11 +0100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 12/6/19 9:09 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:45:49 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
wrote:



"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:21:57 +0100, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
wrote:

devnull <devnull@127.0.0.1> wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

In the above cases, the EU is free to change them later. We simply
leave
right now, and everything stays as it is. Then we go about
changing
rules to suit ourselves and each other, as though the EU had never
existed.

Why not just change to Sharia law?

His dick is so small that once they hacked the end off it, there
wouldn't
be anything left.

Thought it was just the Jewish filth that did that?

Nope, the moslems and yanks do it too.

The yanks do it because they think it's cleaner, not for religion.

So you think the moslems and jews *don't* do it for cleanliness? You
would be wrong. A lot of these attitudes to certain things only become
*ritual* after a long period of use or even enforcement because of
cleanliness.

Do you really think we would have evolved with a part that isn't
required and causes problems? If it's better not to have it, we
wouldn't grow it.

So why do we have an Appendix??? It had a function - once.

And what do you believe the function was of the foreskin?
 
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 03:52:50 +0100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 12/6/19 4:20 am, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:13:27 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
wrote:



"Daniel60" <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote in message
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Commander Kinsey wrote on 11/06/2019 8:09 AM:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:53:25 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 10/06/2019 12:50 AM:
On Sun, 09 Jun 2019 10:01:28 +0100, Daniel60
daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote on 8/06/2019 4:04 AM:
On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 03:46:18 +0100, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:

Snip

You know this for every supplier in the world?

Well if you live in the desert maybe you can actually make real
money
instead of stealing it from the taxpayer. But in most places,
solar
panels are next to useless unless you want to charge up a couple of
AA
batteries.

No farm, just a normal 3 bedroom house with 20 solar panels that I
installed about two years ago costing about $4,500.00.

Last month, being the start of Winter, i.e. lower sunlight
levels, my
Solar rebate (after any power I might have used during the day) was
$21.49, so, even at this low sunlight rate, I'd repay the panel
costs
in
about 17.5 years.

O.K., I'd have not earned interest on that $4,500 for that time,
but,
then again, I'd have been getting 'free' daylight power myself for
that
time!!

Taking into account the greater quantity of power I will(/have) be
generating during Summer, that pay-back time would be reduced (to,
maybe, 10 years'ish!!).

Just saying!!

I wouldn't buy something that took 10 years to break even. Ever
heard
of an ISA?

No!

Might be a British acronym. It's a long term savings account.

Is that something like what U.S.A'ians cal a 401K ...

Yep.

what we in Australia call Superannuation??

Nope, that's compulsory. The poms call that NI, National Insurance.

You don't have to pay that.

You might not, we do, no choice.

It's about time we got rid of government altogether. There's no freedoms left.
 
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"Commander Kinsey" <CFKinsey@military.org.jp> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:21:57 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
wrote:

devnull <devnull@127.0.0.1> wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

In the above cases, the EU is free to change them later. We simply
leave
right now, and everything stays as it is. Then we go about changing
rules to suit ourselves and each other, as though the EU had never
existed.

Why not just change to Sharia law?

His dick is so small that once they hacked the end off it, there
wouldn't
be anything left.

Thought it was just the Jewish filth that did that?

Nope, the moslems and yanks do it too.

The yanks do it because they think it's cleaner,

Wrong, as always.

Christians (most Americans) don't believe in circumcision.
 
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On 6/11/19 9:40 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
And if you don't have the money stored in a tax-free IRA, you'll
pay
income tax on your losses.

Dunno what an IRA is, but all ISAs are tax free AFAIK.

Hang on, losses? Surely you pay income tax on your income, not
losses.


Yah, it's called "Republican taxpayer privilege". The bank pays
you
2%
interest but inflation goes up 3%.

Essentially you have less buying power at the end of the year and
yet
you
still have to pay taxes on the 2% "gain".

The democrats have lots of slick scams to take money from working
taxpayers and give it to their lazy welfare constituents.

And yet only half pay any income tax. Or are you saying that the
Dems
are
so
clever that they have worked out how to make just Repugs pay income
tax
?

Who cares about income tax?

In all but the USA, it's the main tax most pay in the first
world. Only the unemployable dregs like you pay most
of the tax they pay in the VAT and fuel and sin taxes.

It's one of only 50 taxes.

What matters is how much you pay in each one.

VAT is 20%! You will eventually spend all you earn,

Plenty of the better paid don't.

Nobody accumulates money forever.

Plenty with a clue accumulate it till they stop working
and plenty accumulate it and hand it on to their kids too.

If they don't spend it their descendants will.

Plenty of their descendents arent stupid enough to spend it.

If what you were saying was true, there would be an ever increasing number
of people with huger and huger amounts of money.

so that's 20% which is significantly similar to the income tax rate.

Not with the better paid. Only the dregs of the labour market.

If you're poor, you pay a low rate,

Yes, the dregs mostly do pay just VAT and petrol and sin taxes.

if you're rich, you bend the rules and pay a low rate.

Not even possible for most of the better paid wage slaves.
Those pay a lot more than 20% income tax.

Nope,

Yep.

once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle things nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over Ł46,351. That's really rich buggers, I can't think of anyone earning that much. They can afford accountants to cheat.
 
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"devnull" <devnull@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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On 6/11/19 9:40 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
And if you don't have the money stored in a tax-free IRA,
you'll
pay
income tax on your losses.

Dunno what an IRA is, but all ISAs are tax free AFAIK.

Hang on, losses? Surely you pay income tax on your income, not
losses.


Yah, it's called "Republican taxpayer privilege". The bank pays
you
2%
interest but inflation goes up 3%.

Essentially you have less buying power at the end of the year
and
yet
you
still have to pay taxes on the 2% "gain".

The democrats have lots of slick scams to take money from
working
taxpayers and give it to their lazy welfare constituents.

And yet only half pay any income tax. Or are you saying that the
Dems
are
so
clever that they have worked out how to make just Repugs pay
income
tax
?

Who cares about income tax?

In all but the USA, it's the main tax most pay in the first
world. Only the unemployable dregs like you pay most
of the tax they pay in the VAT and fuel and sin taxes.

It's one of only 50 taxes.

What matters is how much you pay in each one.

VAT is 20%! You will eventually spend all you earn,

Plenty of the better paid don't.

Nobody accumulates money forever.

Plenty with a clue accumulate it till they stop working
and plenty accumulate it and hand it on to their kids too.

If they don't spend it their descendants will.

Plenty of their descendents arent stupid enough to spend it.

If what you were saying was true, there would be an ever increasing
number
of people with huger and huger amounts of money.

so that's 20% which is significantly similar to the income tax rate.

Not with the better paid. Only the dregs of the labour market.

If you're poor, you pay a low rate,

Yes, the dregs mostly do pay just VAT and petrol and sin taxes.

if you're rich, you bend the rules and pay a low rate.

Not even possible for most of the better paid wage slaves.
Those pay a lot more than 20% income tax.

Nope,

Yep.

once you get really rich you get accountants that fiddle things nicely.

We werent discussing the really rich.

We only pay more than 20% on anything we earn over Ł46,351.

And that's the bulk of the well paid workforce.

> That's really rich buggers,

Wrong, as always.

> I can't think of anyone earning that much.

Because you infest a sink estate.

> They can afford accountants to cheat.

Bullshit when they are wage slaves and most of them are.
 
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devnull <devnull@127.0.0.1> wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

In the above cases, the EU is free to change them later. We simply
leave
right now, and everything stays as it is. Then we go about
changing
rules to suit ourselves and each other, as though the EU had never
existed.

Why not just change to Sharia law?

His dick is so small that once they hacked the end off it, there
wouldn't
be anything left.

Thought it was just the Jewish filth that did that?

Nope, the moslems and yanks do it too.

The yanks do it because they think it's cleaner,

Wrong, as always.

Christians (most Americans) don't believe in circumcision.

But most of them hack the ends off their kids dicks anyway.
 

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