Vaporizing dust during chip manufacturing ?

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Skybuck Flying

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Hello,

Would it be possible to "vaporize" any dust particles during the chip
manufacturing ?

From what I understand "dust" particles cause lot's of chip-duds.

Since E=MC^2 maybe the "matter of the dust particle" can be turned into
energy clearing it ?

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
dlzc wrote:
A megaton nuclear weapon "converts" a few nanograms of mass to
energy (the rest is there just for chance).
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1 megaton TNT = 4.184e15 joules
E=MC^2 = 9.0e16 J/Kg

1 megaton = 46.49 grams.

Eric
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:48:11 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
<IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Would it be possible to "vaporize" any dust particles during the chip
manufacturing ?

From what I understand "dust" particles cause lot's of chip-duds.

Since E=MC^2 maybe the "matter of the dust particle" can be turned into
energy clearing it ?

Bye,
Skybuck.

Instead of asking questions that make you look even more stupid than we
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already know that you are, you should simply perform a GOOGLE SEARCH or
other commonly available search engine and READ up on the topic, IDIOT!

You should also stop watching tech shows, because since you do not even
have the aptitude to grasp the material discussed on them, all they serve
to do is cause you to come here and gum up Usenet with absolutely
retarded questions.

Do some real research for once in your life, you lazy little punk fuck.
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:30:06 -0700 (PDT), dlzc <dlzc1@cox.net> wrote:

From what I understand "dust" particles cause lot's
of chip-duds.

That is part of the machining process. Clearing away the dross is a
small part what a machinst does.

Since E=MC^2 maybe the "matter of the dust particle"
can be turned into energy clearing it ?

Blowing up the machine, the operator, the building it is in, and the
city that supports the machine shop seems a little extreme, don't you
think? A megaton nuclear weapon "converts" a few nanograms of mass to
energy (the rest is there just for chance).

David A. Smith
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You are an idiot. He never said a damned thing about "machining",
idiot.

chips are GROWN , and get deposits placed onto them akin to crystal
growth.

You should do some google work as well. Particulalry BEFORE you make a
post where you place your foot in your mouth.
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 07:32:36 -0700 (PDT), Benj <bjacoby@iwaynet.net>
wrote:

On Jun 18, 5:48 am, "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFut...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hello,

Would it be possible to "vaporize" any dust particles during the chip
manufacturing ?

From what I understand "dust" particles cause lot's of chip-duds.

Since E=MC^2 maybe the "matter of the dust particle" can be turned into
energy clearing it ?

Bye,
  Skybuck.

Lessee. Obviously you are an "idea man" rather than someone who works
out the mundane details! I don't know. maybe a giant laser or nuclear
reactor or perhaps an LHC would be the way to go to "smash" dust
particles in chip manufacture rather than the usual fans and filters.
I mean how much more could it cost?
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Jeez, you are even more stupid than he is!
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:57:02 -0400, EricP
<ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> wrote:

dlzc wrote:

A megaton nuclear weapon "converts" a few nanograms of mass to
energy (the rest is there just for chance).

1 megaton TNT = 4.184e15 joules
E=MC^2 = 9.0e16 J/Kg

1 megaton = 46.49 grams.

Eric
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Grams? Grams of WHAT? I am sure that 46.49 grams of water would yield
less than 46.49 grams of highly enriched Uranium.

Also, a nuke does not "convert a few nanograms". For one thing, it
does not get "converted", it gets "released".

The first ones REQUIRED 100lbs of material to go critical.

Modern devices "need" less, but the designs are hardly set up where
they include more than they need. To claim so is just stupid.

Also, ALL of it goes fissile, so the "just there for chance" remark is
stupid as well.

Your brain must only weigh a few nanograms. There cannot be any more
than that after stupid statements like the one you made here.
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:48:11 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
<IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Would it be possible to "vaporize" any dust particles during the chip
manufacturing ?

From what I understand "dust" particles cause lot's of chip-duds.

Since E=MC^2 maybe the "matter of the dust particle" can be turned into
energy clearing it ?

Bye,
Skybuck.
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Simply blast each dust particle on the wafer surface with a same-sized
chunk of antimatter.

I generously donate this invention to the public domain.

John
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:33:00 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:48:11 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Would it be possible to "vaporize" any dust particles during the chip
manufacturing ?

From what I understand "dust" particles cause lot's of chip-duds.

Since E=MC^2 maybe the "matter of the dust particle" can be turned into
energy clearing it ?

Bye,
Skybuck.


Simply blast each dust particle on the wafer surface with a same-sized
chunk of antimatter.

I generously donate this invention to the public domain.

John
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Perhaps you could dive into a pool of antimatter and get 'blasted away'.

I generously donate this Earth soothing suggestion to you. That way,
you might be able to recover a tiny bit of honor.
 
On 18/06/2010 16:25, Archimedes' Lever wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 10:57:02 -0400, EricP
ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> wrote:

dlzc wrote:

A megaton nuclear weapon "converts" a few nanograms of mass to
energy (the rest is there just for chance).

1 megaton TNT = 4.184e15 joules
E=MC^2 = 9.0e16 J/Kg

1 megaton = 46.49 grams.

Eric

Grams? Grams of WHAT?
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Grams of matter converted into energy according to E = mc^2
EricP is right on the money. Nuclear binding energy is released by
fission and the bits remaining afterwards weigh a little bit less. The
mass difference becomes kinetic energy and electromagetic radiation.

A nanogram of mass annihilated would release about 90kJ - barely enough
to boil the water needed to make a small pot of tea.

Regards,
Martin Brown
 
I did do a quick google for "vaporizing dust particles" before posting... it
turned up nothing !

So maybe you should do what you recommend that I should do first ! ;) :)

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:45:15 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:33:00 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:48:11 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Would it be possible to "vaporize" any dust particles during the chip
manufacturing ?

From what I understand "dust" particles cause lot's of chip-duds.

Since E=MC^2 maybe the "matter of the dust particle" can be turned into
energy clearing it ?

Bye,
Skybuck.


Simply blast each dust particle on the wafer surface with a same-sized
chunk of antimatter.

I generously donate this invention to the public domain.

John


Perhaps you could dive into a pool of antimatter and get 'blasted away'.

I generously donate this Earth soothing suggestion to you. That way,
you might be able to recover a tiny bit of honor.
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Serious lasers, like NIF, have to be very careful about dust. When
they fire the laser, dust on optics can explode and blast tiny craters
in the glass. I think NIF is the world's biggest clean room.

John
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:11:26 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
<IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com> wrote:

I did do a quick google for "vaporizing dust particles" before posting... it
turned up nothing !
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Try semiconductor particulate or semiconductor contamination
or things like that. "Dust" is sort of lowbrow to the people who write
papers about this.

John
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:01:31 +0100, Martin Brown
<|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

A nanogram of mass annihilated would release about 90kJ - barely enough
to boil the water needed to make a small pot of tea.
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Which makes it obvious to me that he did not know the first thing about
it.
 
Dear Skybuck Flying:

On Jun 18, 2:48 am, "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFut...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Would it be possible to "vaporize" any dust particles
during the chip manufacturing ?
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No. To hard on the machinery when it recondenses.

From what I understand "dust" particles cause lot's
of chip-duds.
Click to expand...
That is part of the machining process. Clearing away the dross is a
small part what a machinst does.

Since E=MC^2 maybe the "matter of the dust particle"
can be turned into energy clearing it ?
Click to expand...
Blowing up the machine, the operator, the building it is in, and the
city that supports the machine shop seems a little extreme, don't you
think? A megaton nuclear weapon "converts" a few nanograms of mass to
energy (the rest is there just for chance).

David A. Smith
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:11:26 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
<IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com> wrote:

I did do a quick google for "vaporizing dust particles" before posting... it
turned up nothing !

So maybe you should do what you recommend that I should do first ! ;) :)

Bye,
Skybuck.

If that search criteria is where you ceased looking, then it is YOU
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that needs to LEARN HOW to do a simple fucking research project.

Why do you not hunt up chip fab processes and READ about WHY dust
causes an issue, even if it gets removed! They cause their problems
generally BEFORE they get found, idiot.
 
On Jun 18, 5:48 am, "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFut...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hello,

Would it be possible to "vaporize" any dust particles during the chip
manufacturing ?

From what I understand "dust" particles cause lot's of chip-duds.

Since E=MC^2 maybe the "matter of the dust particle" can be turned into
energy clearing it ?

Bye,
  Skybuck.
Click to expand...
Lessee. Obviously you are an "idea man" rather than someone who works
out the mundane details! I don't know. maybe a giant laser or nuclear
reactor or perhaps an LHC would be the way to go to "smash" dust
particles in chip manufacture rather than the usual fans and filters.
I mean how much more could it cost?
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:25:06 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:45:15 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:33:00 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:48:11 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Would it be possible to "vaporize" any dust particles during the chip
manufacturing ?

From what I understand "dust" particles cause lot's of chip-duds.

Since E=MC^2 maybe the "matter of the dust particle" can be turned into
energy clearing it ?

Bye,
Skybuck.


Simply blast each dust particle on the wafer surface with a same-sized
chunk of antimatter.

I generously donate this invention to the public domain.

John


Perhaps you could dive into a pool of antimatter and get 'blasted away'.

I generously donate this Earth soothing suggestion to you. That way,
you might be able to recover a tiny bit of honor.

Serious lasers, like NIF, have to be very careful about dust. When
they fire the laser, dust on optics can explode and blast tiny craters
in the glass. I think NIF is the world's biggest clean room.

John
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They are not using lasers to blast away particles, idiot. It would be
too easy to damage the surface it sits on.
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:25:11 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup <MitchAlsup@aol.com>
wrote:

On Jun 18, 4:48 am, "Skybuck Flying" <IntoTheFut...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Would it be possible to "vaporize" any dust particles during the chip
manufacturing ?

It is easier to place most of the manufactuing process in a vacuum and
eliminate the dust particles. {Hint: dust cannot float in a vacuum to
land on the wafers, but drops like a rock to the floor.}
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Just ask Neil Armstrong.
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:27:24 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:11:26 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com> wrote:

I did do a quick google for "vaporizing dust particles" before posting... it
turned up nothing !

Try semiconductor particulate or semiconductor contamination
or things like that. "Dust" is sort of lowbrow to the people who write
papers about this.

John
Click to expand...
Low brow is the wrong term, idiot.
 
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:32:37 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:25:06 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:45:15 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:33:00 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:48:11 +0200, "Skybuck Flying"
IntoTheFuture@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Would it be possible to "vaporize" any dust particles during the chip
manufacturing ?

From what I understand "dust" particles cause lot's of chip-duds.

Since E=MC^2 maybe the "matter of the dust particle" can be turned into
energy clearing it ?

Bye,
Skybuck.


Simply blast each dust particle on the wafer surface with a same-sized
chunk of antimatter.

I generously donate this invention to the public domain.

John


Perhaps you could dive into a pool of antimatter and get 'blasted away'.

I generously donate this Earth soothing suggestion to you. That way,
you might be able to recover a tiny bit of honor.

Serious lasers, like NIF, have to be very careful about dust. When
they fire the laser, dust on optics can explode and blast tiny craters
in the glass. I think NIF is the world's biggest clean room.

John

They are not using lasers to blast away particles, idiot.
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Of course they are. They're just not doing it on purpose. Silicon
wafers would have a similar problem: enough energy to blast dust would
probably damage the wafer. E=MCsquared would damage everything nearby.

John
 
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