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Nigel Cook

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George Bernard Shaw

Does anyone have a URL for a site that you can
convert American terms to English and vice versa.

I'm thinking of tube = valve
hex wrench= Alan key
lock jaw pliers = Mole grips
1 mil = 1 thou (I think?) - does an American inch = English mile?,
I don't think US gallon = English gallon

etc etc
and all those car terms

trunk = boot
fender = bumper

plumbing
faucet = tap
gas = petrol

etc etc

e-mail (removing .....) diverse2@tcp.co.u.....k
electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~diverse

Nigel,Diverse Devices,Southampton,England
 
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 16:16:33 +0100, "Nigel Cook"
<diverse2@tcp.co.antispam.uk> wrote:

George Bernard Shaw

Does anyone have a URL for a site that you can
convert American terms to English and vice versa.

I'm thinking of tube = valve
hex wrench= Alan key
Click to expand...
Allen key?

Kal
 
"Kalman Rubinson" <kr4@nyu.edu> wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 16:16:33 +0100, "Nigel Cook"
diverse2@tcp.co.antispam.uk> wrote:

George Bernard Shaw

Does anyone have a URL for a site that you can
convert American terms to English and vice versa.

I'm thinking of tube = valve
hex wrench= Alan key

Allen key?

Kal
Click to expand...
Yes Allen key.
I had been talking to an Irish bod who told me the Irish
mile is different to the English mile - and so my
confused comment earlier inch = mile confusion.
 
All you have to do is distinguish between the American system (Standard)-vs-the
English sytem (Metric)...you can find books and tables telling you the
equivalency of each measurement table and its individual equivalent in either
or.
Cheers
Alphie
 
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 16:16:33 +0100, "Nigel Cook"
<diverse2@tcp.co.antispam.uk> wrote:

Does anyone have a URL for a site that you can
convert American terms to English and vice versa.
Click to expand...
The American's guide to speaking British
http://effingpot.com
It's an advertisement for a book on the topic, but there's quite a bit
on the web pile.


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Nigel Cook wrote:
I had been talking to an Irish bod who told me
the Irish mile is different to the English mile
Click to expand...
The current official definitions are the same length:

UK - Units of Measurement Regulations 1995
www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1995/Uksi_19951804_en_2.htm

Ireland - Metrology Act 1996
http://193.120.124.98/gen531996a.html
 
"L1ange bleu" <l1angebleu@aol.com> wrote in message
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All you have to do is distinguish between the American system
(Standard)-vs-the
English sytem (Metric)...you can find books and tables telling you the
equivalency of each measurement table and its individual equivalent in
either
or.
Cheers
Alphie
Click to expand...
Actually, the non-metric, or 'imperial' measurements are still known here in
England as 'English'. Many people here still use imperial measurements. For
instance, we use miles, yards, feet, inches, gallons and pints. These
certainly aren't 'American' measurements.

Dave
 
You can find a lot of it in a book called "Brit Think Ameri Think", a
FABULOUS book by Jane Walmsley published by Harrap in England (NEVER in
America because she tried to be as offensive as she could to everybody,
despite being a yanky, and that prevented her getting an american publisher
I suspect)

Look for it in the US second hand (I mean USED)?

Licensed to Quill
 
Nigel Cook wrote:
George Bernard Shaw

Does anyone have a URL for a site that you can
convert American terms to English and vice versa.

I'm thinking of tube = valve
hex wrench= Alan key
lock jaw pliers = Mole grips
1 mil = 1 thou (I think?) - does an American inch = English mile?,
I don't think US gallon = English gallon
Click to expand...
US Gallons are smaller; although still eight pints, the US pint is 16
fl.oz. (a fluid pound?), rather than 20. I forget what 20 fl.oz. is.

rgds
LAurence

.... Love isn't love until you give it to someone
begin the search for better software
 
"Dave D" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in
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"L1ange bleu" <l1angebleu@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030803230750.06235.00001005@mb-m03.aol.com...
All you have to do is distinguish between the American system
(Standard)-vs-the
English sytem (Metric)...you can find books and tables telling you
the equivalency of each measurement table and its individual
equivalent in
either
or.
Cheers
Alphie

Actually, the non-metric, or 'imperial' measurements are still known
here in England as 'English'. Many people here still use imperial
measurements. For instance, we use miles, yards, feet, inches, gallons
and pints. These certainly aren't 'American' measurements.

Dave
Click to expand...
Not quite.

1 UK Pint = 20oz, 1 US Pint = 16oz
1 UK gallon = 1.2 US gallon and so on,

Large number system, US use the French system, UK uses the English system
( so confusingly do the French) so 1 US Billion is not 1 UK billion

There are others to do wuth shipping volume and areas too.
 
pat.norton@iname.com (Pat Norton) wrote in news:4d4b14.0308040251.c854ac9
@posting.google.com:

Nigel Cook wrote:
I had been talking to an Irish bod who told me
the Irish mile is different to the English mile

The current official definitions are the same length:

UK - Units of Measurement Regulations 1995
www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1995/Uksi_19951804_en_2.htm

Ireland - Metrology Act 1996
http://193.120.124.98/gen531996a.html
Click to expand...
The current definitions are the same. Not so long ago thought here was
the British Mile, The Irish mile, The Scottish mile and Roman ancient
mile amongst others. Look at some olde maps...

1 British statue Mile = 1.0002 British ancient = 0.785 Irish = 0.88
Scottish = 1.05 Roman

And out of interest 1 British Statute mile = 0.999998 US statute mile.
 
Kalman Rubinson wrote:
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 18:31:36 +0100, "Nigel Cook"
diverse2@tcp.co.antispam.uk> wrote:

I had been talking to an Irish bod who told me the Irish
mile is different to the English mile - and so my
confused comment earlier inch = mile confusion.

Of course, we would have asked if it was different from the English
mile.

Kal
Click to expand...
You're confusing it with a "country mile".

Cheers,

Roger
--
Roger Jones, P.Eng.
Thornhill, Ontario,
Canada.

"Friends don't let friends vote Liberal"
 
"Andrew" <Andrew@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Dave D" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in
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"L1ange bleu" <l1angebleu@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030803230750.06235.00001005@mb-m03.aol.com...
All you have to do is distinguish between the American system
(Standard)-vs-the
English sytem (Metric)...you can find books and tables telling you
the equivalency of each measurement table and its individual
equivalent in
either
or.
Cheers
Alphie

Actually, the non-metric, or 'imperial' measurements are still known
here in England as 'English'. Many people here still use imperial
measurements. For instance, we use miles, yards, feet, inches, gallons
and pints. These certainly aren't 'American' measurements.

Dave





Not quite.

1 UK Pint = 20oz, 1 US Pint = 16oz
1 UK gallon = 1.2 US gallon and so on,

Large number system, US use the French system, UK uses the English system
( so confusingly do the French) so 1 US Billion is not 1 UK billion

There are others to do wuth shipping volume and areas too.
Click to expand...
It's true what you say, but my point was really that the Metric system isn't
'English' at all, we have simply adopted it from Europe. It is no more an
'English' thing than Imperial is 'American'. No one I know uses Km, litres
or Kilos unless they are forced to, and they still have to convert to
imperial!

Dave
 
"Andrew" <Andrew@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Dave D" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in
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"L1ange bleu" <l1angebleu@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030803230750.06235.00001005@mb-m03.aol.com...
All you have to do is distinguish between the American system
(Standard)-vs-the
English sytem (Metric)...you can find books and tables telling you
the equivalency of each measurement table and its individual
equivalent in
either
or.
Cheers
Alphie

Actually, the non-metric, or 'imperial' measurements are still known
here in England as 'English'. Many people here still use imperial
measurements. For instance, we use miles, yards, feet, inches, gallons
and pints. These certainly aren't 'American' measurements.

Dave





Not quite.

1 UK Pint = 20oz, 1 US Pint = 16oz
1 UK gallon = 1.2 US gallon and so on,

Large number system, US use the French system, UK uses the English system
( so confusingly do the French) so 1 US Billion is not 1 UK billion

There are others to do wuth shipping volume and areas too.
Click to expand...
My favo(u)rite confusion is in space where you would think
there was a concensus ,no. As far as I know it is still
nautical miles (with US anyway).
I suppose there is a bit of logic there as the original definition
of a nautical mile was some exact division of Earth's circumference.

So early 'star wars' project a servo positionable mirror on
a shuttle to deflect a laser from California to Hawai.
So programming in nautical miles but data entry in metres and
mirror pointed into space not mid-Pacific.
Repeated more recently with a failed Mars orbiter or lander,
confusion between nm and m
 
Andrew wrote:

Large number system, US use the French system, UK uses the English system
( so confusingly do the French) so 1 US Billion is not 1 UK billion
Click to expand...
In the English system, 1 Billion = 1 Million ^2, 1 Trillion = 1
Million ^3, and so on. The US/French system increments in multiples of
1,000, thus making the names meaningless.

rgds
LAurence

.... Love isn't love until you give it to someone
begin the search for better software
 
Licensed to Quill wrote:
You can find a lot of it in a book called "Brit Think Ameri Think", a
FABULOUS book by Jane Walmsley published by Harrap in England (NEVER in
America because she tried to be as offensive as she could to everybody,
despite being a yanky, and that prevented her getting an american publisher
I suspect)

Look for it in the US second hand (I mean USED)?

Licensed to Quill
Click to expand...
The latest variation is "pre-owned" Damn used car dealers start with
a lie, and expect you to believe anything else they say. :-(
--


Its August 5, 2003, so I'm 51 today!
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
Laurence Taylor wrote:
In the English system, 1 Billion = 1 Million ^2,
1 Trillion = 1 Million ^3, and so on.
The US/French system increments in multiples of
1,000, thus making the names meaningless.
Click to expand...
Since there is universal agreement about SI prefixes, perhaps we
should use them more.
"Budget increased by 2 G$"
"Eurozone GDP is 6.5 terraeuro"
"World population is 6.3 gigapersons"
"It is will cost gigas to replace"
 
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