The end is in sight

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

Jim Thompson wrote:

Is Obama Sunni or Shia ?

He's Turdish.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:17:34 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

Caps on salaries,

So, now you show your true stripe as a dyed-in-the-wool Communist.

The caps we need are on government spending, but unfortunately, it
seems that none of the sheeple have the balls to even try.

Sigh.
Rich

 

[James Arthur]

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:48:30 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:

Don't bother trying to convey _fact_ to leftist weenies. Take
consolation in the fact, when the economy really shits, the leftist
weenies will be the ones who are out of work. And I'll be in orgasmic
Schadenfreude ;-)
Your left vs right views are getting very, VERY stale. Neither have ever got
anything 100% right, probably 50% each on average.

Fuck, more like 95% wrong all of the time.

The leftist weenies and the "right"-ist weenies are birds of a feather.

They're all in favor of maximum government and minimum Liberty.

Which is worse: Tax and spend, or borrow and spend?

Thanks,
Rich

c) Borrow, tax, and spend.

James Arthur

 

[Rich the Philosophizer]

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:56:11 +1000, Bob Larter wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:16:00 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

GWB had already reduced it to its knees. Obama is more of an Insolvency
Practicioner, doing a neccessary job. The bubble couldn't last forever.

When it it "necessary" to steal the income of the productive, to support
the parasites?

Oh - almost forgot: you're a Brit, who apparently still believes that
socialism can lead a country to somewhere other than abject bankruptcy.

Well, we've got 4 years to find out who's right about this.

"The events predicted for 2012 by the ancient Maya are not substantially
different than those predicted by sages throughout the millennia.
Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and other seers have predicted
similar events marking 'the end of time.' And the Maya are only one of
many indigenous cultures that have spoken of their deeply held vision for
the events near and immediately after the end of time.

"All of these prophecies point to a relatively sudden awakening into much
greater awareness for some or all of Humanity. What has been well hidden
within the folds of your present four-dimensional world will be clearly
revealed by the additional Light available in the unfolding of the new,
five-dimensional world."
--- http://godchannel.com/grandfatherinterview2.html

Yeah, I know everyone will dismiss this out of hand as superstition, fairy
tales, My lunacy (I know I'm a nutcase - in fact, I might be the craziest
of the lot!) but, dang it, it works for me, and whose life am I here to
live, anyway? ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:59:17 -0700, Bob Eld wrote:

"Richard the Dreaded Libertarian" <freedom_guy@example.net> wrote in message
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:16:00 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

GWB had already reduced it to its knees. Obama is more of an Insolvency
Practicioner, doing a neccessary job. The bubble couldn't last forever.

When it it "necessary" to steal the income of the productive, to support
the parasites?

Oh - almost forgot: you're a Brit, who apparently still believes that
socialism can lead a country to somewhere other than abject bankruptcy.

I think you forgot that American Capitalism was on the verge of collapse and
many firms would have gone bankrupt had the government not bailed them out.

You're really convinced that government is better than Freedom, aren't
you?

B of A, AIG, Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, Chrysler, GM and many others.

You conveniently forget to mention things like the income tax, socialist
medical "care", unionism, Governmet edicts, etc., etc., etc.

What you're not admitting is that the US would have decayed into a
massive deep depression worst than the 30's had the government not
intervened.

So, since your crystal ball is so accurate, what are this week's winning
lottery numbers? For crissakes, are you really incapable of grasping the
fact that it was government intervention that turned the crash of 1929
into the Great Depressinon?

Laissez-Faire Capitalism ain't so hot when it come to
avoiding bankruptcy and collapse either so watch the stupid statements.

Laissez-Faire Capitalism is hot if Big Brother would let those who
deserve to go bankrupt, go bankrupt.

Do you really think it's a good thing to rip off people's paychecks to
subsidize the lazy parasites?

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:54:48 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:16:00 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

GWB had already reduced it to its knees. Obama is more of an Insolvency
Practicioner, doing a neccessary job. The bubble couldn't last forever.

When it it "necessary" to steal the income of the productive, to support
the parasites?

Who are the specific parasites in this instance ? I may well agree with some
of your examples.

To quote Bob E:
"B of A, AIG, Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch, Chrysler, GM and many others."

But to answer your question re: redistribution of wealth "When there is no
alternative left" !

There is ALWAYS an alternative that's better than turning to the humongous
Nanny State, who gets its money by stealing the wages of the productive.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[James Arthur]

Richard the Poet Laureate of Freedom wrote:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:46:56 +1000, Bob Larter wrote:
It'll be interesting to see if all the wingnut paranoia about Obama ends
up being justified.

What, haven't you been paying attention?

He whines about the deficit he's "inherited", then proceeds to triple it?
He bails out the companies that were driven into bankruptcy by cowtowing
to the unions, and the banks that wrote mortgages that were _guaranteed_
to fail? He's presiding over the biggest redistribution of money from the
productive to the unproductive in the entire history of the known
Universe, and you can't see that?

Sheesh - how long have you had your head in the sand?

Thanks,
Rich

"kowtow", i.e., (v.i.) to exhibit servile deference; fawn; (n.)
an obsequious act.

The rest is pure gold.

Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:55:49 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:14:03 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
James Arthur wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

I've been in socialist countries.

Such as, and when and what do you call socialist ? Europe is mostly
'Social Democrat' in nature which is something you don't have.

Thank GOD!

Well, maybe we've escaped full-on socialism so far, but I don't see much
hope for the future.

Done properly ( ha-ha ) Social Democracy is one of the fairest systems
around.

There is no such thing as socialism "done properly". Of course, it works

for the socialists in power, but, as always, when the power-trippers are
in charge, the working stiff gets screwed.

Have you read the Communist Manifesto lately?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=communist+manifesto

This is the Enemy of Liberty, which is what America was supposed to be
all about, before the socialists got into power.

Freedom is the only good system. If you fuck up, you take your knocks.
This is what the sheeple fear most - having to be responsible for one's
own well-being, without Nanny to bail them out of the consequences of
their own negligence.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[James Arthur]

Bob Eld wrote:

"Richard the Dreaded Libertarian" <freedom_guy@example.net> wrote in message
newsan.2009.04.29.20.16.42.574175@example.net...
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:16:00 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

GWB had already reduced it to its knees. Obama is more of an Insolvency
Practicioner, doing a neccessary job. The bubble couldn't last forever.
When it it "necessary" to steal the income of the productive, to support
the parasites?

Oh - almost forgot: you're a Brit, who apparently still believes that
socialism can lead a country to somewhere other than abject bankruptcy.

Thanks,
Rich

I think you forgot that American Capitalism was on the verge of collapse

Maybe you mean "Government Capitalism"(tm)?--the arenas where government
took an interest.

The other companies & industries feel that reflected pain, but they
aren't collapsing. Not even close.

Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:29:56 +0000, James Arthur wrote:

qrus19@mindspring.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:55:49 +0100, Eeyore
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:14:03 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
James Arthur wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(
I've been in socialist countries.
Such as, and when and what do you call socialist ? Europe is mostly
'Social Democrat' in nature which is something you don't have.
Thank GOD!

Well, maybe we've escaped full-on socialism so far, but I don't see much
hope for the future.
Done properly ( ha-ha ) Social Democracy is one of the fairest systems
around.

Equine Manure, anytime society takes money from one person and gives
it to another without requiring something of equal value as trade it's
armed robbery.

I favor Bastiat's formulation: if one man steals from another, even
though he uses the government to do it for him, it's still theft.

If you steal a million dollars from one man, they will track you down and
put you in an iron cage.

If you steal a dollar apiece from a million people, they will elect you to
public office.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:45:29 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

James Arthur wrote:

I favor Bastiat's formulation: if one man steals from another, even
though he uses the government to do it for him, it's still theft.

Who builds the roads and bridges etc in this world ?

The guy that the people who want the road built hired to do the job. This
is called "Local government".
Maybe I should parse this a little, for the benefit of the politically
impaired:
The guy that (the people (who want the road built)) hired to do the job.

What's so difficult about that? When you need your driveway resurfaced,
do you depend on some bureucrat to pay for it with money stolen from
your neighbor, while skimming off a generous dollop for his junkets?

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Rich the Philosophizer]

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:26:16 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

qrus19@mindspring.com wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:14:03 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
James Arthur wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

I've been in socialist countries.

Such as, and when and what do you call socialist ? Europe is mostly
'Social Democrat' in nature which is something you don't have.

Thank GOD!

Well, maybe we've escaped full-on socialism so far, but I don't see much
hope for the future.

Done properly ( ha-ha ) Social Democracy is one of the fairest systems
around.

Equine Manure, anytime society takes money from one person and gives
it to another without requiring something of equal value as trade it's
armed robbery.

Ever read a Bible ( and understood it ) ? I may not be a theist but I can tell
right from wrong and charity from selfishness.

Free Will is Good. Opposition to Free Will is Evil.

It's just that simple.

Hope This Helps!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:52:17 -0700, Greegor wrote:

The obvious implication is that eventually
law enforcement could use the DNA for
identification purposes akin to fingerprinting.

I've got no problem with identifying perps, so you can track down
repeat offenders; unfortunately that would require an honest police
force comprising people with impeccable integrity. Dream on.

But, unless you have been convicted as a perp, collecting an individual's
DNA without his or her permission is not only wrong, it's borderline
evil.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:24:13 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:21:20 GMT, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:23:01 +0000, James Arthur wrote:

Socialism is capital punishment.

Should that be "capitol"? ;-)

(you might have to look them up to discern the difference.)

Of your capital, by your Capitol?

Exactly! ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:51:39 +0000, James Arthur wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:23:01 +0000, James Arthur wrote:
Socialism is capital punishment.

Should that be "capitol"? ;-)

No, capitols love it. Peter-robbers are always popular
with Paul.

(you might have to look them up to discern the difference.)

"Marxism is capitalist punishment." --me

Marxists are capitalists - after all, you can't do anything without
capital; the difference is under Marxism/socialism/nazism/etc,. the
ones in power (who are not you) control all of the capital.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:57:15 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:23:40 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
James Arthur wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

I've been in socialist countries.

They suck.

Welcome to the Future. In case you haven't noticed, the socialists have
been taking over America for generations, and are following the example of
the now-defunct Soviet Union right down the toilet.

Ummm.... wasn't it GWB who introduced the 'Patriot Act' reducing your
liberties.

Well, NAZI is the German acronym for "National Socialist".

So you have 'National Socialist' vs 'Social Democrat' ? ;~)

Absolutely:
The "People's" socialists want to steal your earnings to pay the bills of
the lazy, negligent, stupid, and downright crooked poor people.

The "National" socialists want to stea; your earnings to pay the bills of
the lazy, negligent, stupid, and downright crooked rich people.

Hope This Helps!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:52:34 +0000, James Arthur wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:09:33 +0000, James Arthur wrote:
That received overwhelming support from both parties, has been
re-affirmed by wide margins several times, and had no effect on
our freedoms.

Other than being strip-searched at the airports and having your phone
tapped without a warrant.

Neither is true, otherwise I'd agree with you.

Are you ever going to take your blinders off?

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:59:07 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:10:30 +0000, James Arthur wrote:

Might that help catch criminals and prevent crime?

The only thing the state can do is respond to crime scenes and clean
up the mess, and hope they'll catch the perp sometime.

CCTV in UK town centres has already shown that to be false. At last the
police here can and do now act proactively.

So, when you're being mugged, do you ask the mugger to wait a sec while
you call the cops? Or turn over your cash, while you're waiting for
somebody to observe the crime remotely and dispatch your "protector"?

You don't need CCTV at the end of your leafy lane though.

I see nothing wrong with a person installing security cams on their own
property, at their own expense.

But massive Big Brotherism is inimical to Liberty.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Rich the Newsgroup Wacko]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:56:26 +0000, James Arthur wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:13:45 +0000, James Arthur wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Didn't it introduce absurd requirements for boarding planes for one ?
Not that I'm aware. There were some silly changes made, but
separately AFAIK. They're more comical than inconvenient.

You sound like you _like_ being strip-searched.

I've heard this Brit is a tttteeeerrrrrrorrrrist:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1173577/The-bikini-shots-curvy-Kelly-Brook-diet.html

I volunteer to search her.

Too droopy for my taste. Human women shouldn't have udders.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[James Arthur]

Rich the Newsgroup Wacko wrote:

James Arthur wrote:
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
James Arthur wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Didn't it introduce absurd requirements for boarding planes for one ?
Not that I'm aware. There were some silly changes made, but
separately AFAIK. They're more comical than inconvenient.
You sound like you _like_ being strip-searched.
I've heard this Brit is a tttteeeerrrrrrorrrrist:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1173577/The-bikini-shots-curvy-Kelly-Brook-diet.html

I volunteer to search her.

Too droopy for my taste. Human women shouldn't have udders.

Thanks,
Rich

Skinny smart women are my faves, but smart and sweet in
alternate packages shall be considered.

Mencken said "Marry for the conversation--it's the
only thing that lasts."

Cheers,
James Arthur