The end is in sight

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:10:30 +0000, James Arthur wrote:
Might that help catch criminals and prevent crime?
The only thing the state can do is respond to crime scenes and clean
up the mess, and hope they'll catch the perp sometime.

The way to _prevent_ crime is to arm yourself, and shoot the perp on
the spot.

Unless you want enough armed Gestapo to follow every citizen 24/7.
It'd be cheaper to hire your own, civilian, armed guards.

Thanks,
Rich
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:09:33 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
James Arthur wrote:

Well, yes, frankly, but that's a poor example. How exactly
do you imagine the Patriot Act restricted my freedom?

Didn't it introduce absurd requirements for boarding planes for one ?

The big AGW-media complaint about the Patriot Act was that it
allowed eavesdropping on calls to Al Queda originating in the US.

How ? Do they have Al Qaeda's phone number ?

You could probably call international information and get it.

But these days, "terrorism" is nothing more than boogeyman du jour. The
US lost the "war on terror" the day they started strip-searching American
Citizens.

There's no threat to the US from "terrorists" - they're too busy sitting
in their yurts, watching international satellite news on their i-phones,
rolling on the floor laughing their asses off watching Washington, DC do
more damage to America than any number of "terrorists" could even _dream_
of doing.

Cheers!
Rich
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:13:45 +0000, James Arthur wrote:
Eeyore wrote:

Didn't it introduce absurd requirements for boarding planes for one ?

Not that I'm aware. There were some silly changes made, but
separately AFAIK. They're more comical than inconvenient.
You sound like you _like_ being strip-searched.

Thanks,
Rich
 
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:23:01 +0000, James Arthur wrote:
Socialism is capital punishment.

Should that be "capitol"? ;-)
No, capitols love it. Peter-robbers are always popular
with Paul.

(you might have to look them up to discern the difference.)

Cheers!
Rich
"Marxism is capitalist punishment." --me

Cheers,
James Arthur
 
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:09:33 +0000, James Arthur wrote:
That received overwhelming support from both parties, has been
re-affirmed by wide margins several times, and had no effect on
our freedoms.

Other than being strip-searched at the airports and having your phone
tapped without a warrant.

Thanks,
Rich
Neither is true, otherwise I'd agree with you.

Best,
James Arthur
 
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:13:45 +0000, James Arthur wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Didn't it introduce absurd requirements for boarding planes for one ?
Not that I'm aware. There were some silly changes made, but
separately AFAIK. They're more comical than inconvenient.

You sound like you _like_ being strip-searched.

Thanks,
Rich
I've heard this Brit is a tttteeeerrrrrrorrrrist:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1173577/The-bikini-shots-curvy-Kelly-Brook-diet.html

I volunteer to search her.

James Arthur
 
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:09:33 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
James Arthur wrote:

Well, yes, frankly, but that's a poor example. How exactly
do you imagine the Patriot Act restricted my freedom?
Didn't it introduce absurd requirements for boarding planes for one ?
The big AGW-media complaint about the Patriot Act was that it
allowed eavesdropping on calls to Al Queda originating in the US.
How ? Do they have Al Qaeda's phone number ?

You could probably call international information and get it.

But these days, "terrorism" is nothing more than boogeyman du jour. The
US lost the "war on terror" the day they started strip-searching American
Citizens.

There's no threat to the US from "terrorists" - they're too busy sitting
in their yurts, watching international satellite news on their i-phones,
rolling on the floor laughing their asses off watching Washington, DC do
more damage to America than any number of "terrorists" could even _dream_
of doing.
There's a huge threat from terrorists. Unfortunately, they won
the elections, and now they're busy dive-bombing the Statutes
of Liberty. Or something like that. :)

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/F-16s-at-Lady-Liberty-Put-City-on-Edge.html


Cheers,
James Arthur
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:56:26 GMT, James Arthur
<bogusabdsqy@verizon.net> wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:13:45 +0000, James Arthur wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Didn't it introduce absurd requirements for boarding planes for one ?
Not that I'm aware. There were some silly changes made, but
separately AFAIK. They're more comical than inconvenient.

You sound like you _like_ being strip-searched.

Thanks,
Rich


I've heard this Brit is a tttteeeerrrrrrorrrrist:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1173577/The-bikini-shots-curvy-Kelly-Brook-diet.html

I volunteer to search her.

James Arthur
Me, too!

...Jim Thompson
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:04:34 GMT, James Arthur
<bogusabdsqy@verizon.net> wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:09:33 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
James Arthur wrote:

Well, yes, frankly, but that's a poor example. How exactly
do you imagine the Patriot Act restricted my freedom?
Didn't it introduce absurd requirements for boarding planes for one ?
The big AGW-media complaint about the Patriot Act was that it
allowed eavesdropping on calls to Al Queda originating in the US.
How ? Do they have Al Qaeda's phone number ?

You could probably call international information and get it.

But these days, "terrorism" is nothing more than boogeyman du jour. The
US lost the "war on terror" the day they started strip-searching American
Citizens.

There's no threat to the US from "terrorists" - they're too busy sitting
in their yurts, watching international satellite news on their i-phones,
rolling on the floor laughing their asses off watching Washington, DC do
more damage to America than any number of "terrorists" could even _dream_
of doing.

There's a huge threat from terrorists. Unfortunately, they won
the elections, and now they're busy dive-bombing the Statutes
of Liberty. Or something like that. :)

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/F-16s-at-Lady-Liberty-Put-City-on-Edge.html


Cheers,
James Arthur
I delight in he fact that the Islamic terrorists are into big shows...
so only the coasts are vulnerable... everything else is boondocks,
except for perhaps Chicago and St. Louis... so nothing we'd really
miss. And just think of the number of leftist weenies residing there
;-)

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food
 
"Richard the Dreaded Libertarian" <freedom_guy@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.04.29.19.16.28.614622@example.net...
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:24:59 -0700, Bob Eld wrote:

The bubble popped, and they all went broke, now Uncle Sugardaddy is using
your money to cover their gambling losses.

Hope This Helps!
Rich
Sorry, since its bull shit it doesn't help.
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:37:38 -0700, "Bob Eld" <nsmontassoc@yahoo.com>
wrote:

"Richard the Dreaded Libertarian" <freedom_guy@example.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.04.29.19.16.28.614622@example.net...
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:24:59 -0700, Bob Eld wrote:

The bubble popped, and they all went broke, now Uncle Sugardaddy is using
your money to cover their gambling losses.

Hope This Helps!
Rich

Sorry, since its bull shit it doesn't help.
Except it isn't bull shit. Wait until "Uncle Sugardaddy" raises your
taxes, your electric bill and the cost of gasoline thru various "crap
and trade" frauds.

I can't hardly cope anymore... all this orgasmic Schadenfreude is
exhausting ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food
 
Jim Thompson wrote:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:06:50 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:


The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

...Jim Thompson

Why promise gun control when the BATF is shutting down gunshops that
have Violations like not crossing tees, dotting eyes, applicants using
"Wash" instead of "WA" or "Washington", etc ad nauseum nevermind that
said applications were APPROVED by BATF in the first place.


I presume this is happening in Washington state? Considering that
Washington and Oregon are crawling with leftist weenies I would
suspect it's a state agency doing this, or that the local BATF is (as
would be expected from the locale) infested with leftist weenies??

We don't have any such problems here in AZ.

...Jim Thompson
Definitely not a state agency.
If you personally know the owner of a gunshop and know he generally
tells the truth, ask him about more frequent BATF visits and what they
are now looking for.
It would be interesting to see what the difference is.
Am curious; please let me (and us?) know.
 
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:56:26 GMT, James Arthur
bogusabdsqy@verizon.net> wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:13:45 +0000, James Arthur wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Didn't it introduce absurd requirements for boarding planes for one ?
Not that I'm aware. There were some silly changes made, but
separately AFAIK. They're more comical than inconvenient.
You sound like you _like_ being strip-searched.

Thanks,
Rich

I've heard this Brit is a tttteeeerrrrrrorrrrist:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1173577/The-bikini-shots-curvy-Kelly-Brook-diet.html

I volunteer to search her.

James Arthur

Me, too!

...Jim Thompson
I can't let you do that--she looks way too dangerous. You wait
there, I'll go in first...

Cheers,
James Arthur
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:03:14 GMT, James Arthur
<bogusabdsqy@verizon.net> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:56:26 GMT, James Arthur
bogusabdsqy@verizon.net> wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:13:45 +0000, James Arthur wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Didn't it introduce absurd requirements for boarding planes for one ?
Not that I'm aware. There were some silly changes made, but
separately AFAIK. They're more comical than inconvenient.
You sound like you _like_ being strip-searched.

Thanks,
Rich

I've heard this Brit is a tttteeeerrrrrrorrrrist:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1173577/The-bikini-shots-curvy-Kelly-Brook-diet.html

I volunteer to search her.

James Arthur

Me, too!

...Jim Thompson

I can't let you do that--she looks way too dangerous. You wait
there, I'll go in first...

Cheers,
James Arthur
Age before beauty ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:52:35 -0700, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:06:50 -0700, Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:


The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

...Jim Thompson

Why promise gun control when the BATF is shutting down gunshops that
have Violations like not crossing tees, dotting eyes, applicants using
"Wash" instead of "WA" or "Washington", etc ad nauseum nevermind that
said applications were APPROVED by BATF in the first place.


I presume this is happening in Washington state? Considering that
Washington and Oregon are crawling with leftist weenies I would
suspect it's a state agency doing this, or that the local BATF is (as
would be expected from the locale) infested with leftist weenies??

We don't have any such problems here in AZ.

...Jim Thompson
Definitely not a state agency.
If you personally know the owner of a gunshop and know he generally
tells the truth, ask him about more frequent BATF visits and what they
are now looking for.
It would be interesting to see what the difference is.
Am curious; please let me (and us?) know.
Will do. I've decided it would be wise to modernize my armament (and
training). My oldest son has agreed to take me "shopping" ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food
 
On Apr 29, 8:50 pm, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
<freedom_...@example.net> wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:46:56 +1000, Bob Larter wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:21:55 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
messagenews:d7bev4thm46u1t8io05n85ilne48ts4mo7@4ax.com...
The end is in sight...
Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).
I don't think the democrats are necessarily all that much more attractive than
they've been in say, the past decade... it's more than the republicans have
kinda imploded and Specter is running for cover.

Yep.  But now that they have total power the Democrats are into rape
and plunder.

It'll be interesting to see if all the wingnut paranoia about Obama ends
up being justified.

1. It's not "wingnut paranoia"
2. It's already been shown to be justified.
Or so the resident wingnut tells us.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
 
Bob Larter wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Tim Wescott wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(
Link?

Republicans and Democrats both have totally lost sight of their roots,
not to mention any clue of what reality is. So it's no surprise that
there should be some party switching going on.

They should merge into "The Party of Dippy Ineffective Extremists", and
allow some room for folks who want to see the country governed based on
some form of common sense, rather than knee-jerk litmus tests for
adherence to foolish Utopian* ideals.

You could almost say the same for the UK scenario.

Graham

Can I also blame you guys for inventing the system that we inherited?

Are you being serious? The American founders invented that form of
government from scratch.
Well, it is a bicameral legislature with a lower and upper house, ours however
have effectively swiched roles making our upper house less of a filtering
mechanism for bad legislation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism

Graham
 
Bob Larter wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
"Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote

The end is in sight...
Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).
I don't think the democrats are necessarily all that much more attractive than
they've been in say, the past decade... it's more than the republicans have
kinda imploded and Specter is running for cover.


Yep. But now that they have total power the Democrats are into rape
and plunder.

It'll be interesting to see if all the wingnut paranoia about Obama ends
up being justified.
It will indeed. He's been left a heck of a mess to sort out.

Graham
 
On Apr 29, 6:47 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:33:32 GMT, James Arthur







bogusabd...@verizon.net> wrote:
Bob Eld wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:kt8fv4ds5o8tfjmmtv5fqaqek65kdnqq3r@4ax.com...
[snip]

And Clinton was pushing for bank deregulation even before he was
elected President. I wonder why.

John

I doubt that most people believe you that make it out to be Clinton's fault.
In truth Democrats are about 20% culpable and Republicans 80% culpable..
Deregulation was primarily a republican thing you cannot spin it any other
way.

You obviously haven't followed the history, or seen the several
reform attempts Democrats blocked.

Google up some of Barney Frank's 2005 YouTubes, where he
argues shrilly against restraining the lending, and calls
those in favor "racists."

Bush was the first to speak up about it, timidly, circa 2001
and then in 2003 IIRC, but he got shouted down by Barney &
crew.

Cheers,
James Arthur

Don't bother trying to convey _fact_ to leftist weenies.  Take
consolation in the fact, when the economy really shits, the leftist
weenies will be the ones who are out of work.  And I'll be in orgasmic
Schadenfreude ;-)
That goes without saying. Jim's unique view of the world lets him
enjoy outlooks that the rest of us never get to see. I think the
technical term for this state of mind is "hallucinating".

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
 
Bob Larter wrote:

bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:21:55 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote

The end is in sight...
Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).
I don't think the democrats are necessarily all that much more attractive than
they've been in say, the past decade... it's more than the republicans have
kinda imploded and Specter is running for cover.
Yep. But now that they have total power the Democrats are into rape
and plunder.

Total power? The Democrats haven't even got a big enough majority to
block a filibuster.

Now that Specter has switched sides, they do.
Now I wonder if that was intentional ?

Graham
 

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