The end is in sight

[MooseFET]

On Apr 28, 2:11 pm, Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote:

bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
On Apr 28, 8:34 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:21:55 -0700, "Joel Koltner"

zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
messagenews:d7bev4thm46u1t8io05n85ilne48ts4mo7@4ax.com...
The end is in sight...
Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).
I don't think the democrats are necessarily all that much more attractive than
they've been in say, the past decade... it's more than the republicans have
kinda imploded and Specter is running for cover.
Yep.  But now that they have total power the Democrats are into rape
and plunder.

Total power? The Democrats haven't even got a big enough majority to
block a filibuster.

But Jim Thompson is always reliably out of touch with reality ...

If you troubled yourself to read the article, you'd find that with
Specter flipping to Democrat, if Frankin wins then the Dems _will_ have
the majority to block a filibuster.

Only if Specter votes to stop it. It is very unlikely that he will in
many cases. Specter's views haven't changed. He just can't stand to
be a republican any more.

 

On Apr 28, 11:11 pm, Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote:

bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
On Apr 28, 8:34 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:21:55 -0700, "Joel Koltner"

zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
messagenews:d7bev4thm46u1t8io05n85ilne48ts4mo7@4ax.com...
The end is in sight...
Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).
I don't think the democrats are necessarily all that much more attractive than
they've been in say, the past decade... it's more than the republicans have
kinda imploded and Specter is running for cover.
Yep.  But now that they have total power the Democrats are into rape
and plunder.

Total power? The Democrats haven't even got a big enough majority to
block a filibuster.

But Jim Thompson is always reliably out of touch with reality ...

If you troubled yourself to read the article, you'd find that with
Specter flipping to Democrat, if Frankin wins then the Dems _will_ have
the majority to block a filibuster.

If Franklin wins, and the Democrats can get their act together, then
they might be able to block a filibuster. It still falls a long way
short of "total power".

Which is pretty scary, but I would guess that most red-state (and even
some mixed-state) Democrats may not be thrilled about their
election-year opponents shining a light on them for filibuster-breaking.

Simple bribery and corruption should do the trick. Many US politicians
are honest and incorruptible, but there are enough of the the other
sort to make filibuster-busting difficult even if the party
affiliations make it theoretically possible.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

On Apr 28, 11:33 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:11:25 -0700, Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.com
wrote:





bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
On Apr 28, 8:34 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:21:55 -0700, "Joel Koltner"

zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
messagenews:d7bev4thm46u1t8io05n85ilne48ts4mo7@4ax.com...
The end is in sight...
Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).
I don't think the democrats are necessarily all that much more attractive than
they've been in say, the past decade... it's more than the republicans have
kinda imploded and Specter is running for cover.
Yep.  But now that they have total power the Democrats are into rape
and plunder.

Total power? The Democrats haven't even got a big enough majority to
block a filibuster.

But Jim Thompson is always reliably out of touch with reality ...

Slowman must have that phrase permanently stored for repetitive use.

Sort of like Pelosi's use of "Bush's failed policies".

Both are signs of EXTREME ignorance.

Jim's logic is as weak as his general knowledge.

Slowman, You still looking for work?  I guess no one is hiring
janitors, huh ?

Wouldn't know. I don't check the jobs ads for janitor jobs. Jobs ads
with "electronics" in the job description have vanished fom the Dutch
web sites - there used to be a couple a week, but not any longer.

If you troubled yourself to read the article, you'd find that with
Specter flipping to Democrat, if Frankin wins then the Dems _will_ have
the majority to block a filibuster.

Slowman can't comprehend anything more complex than "Dick and Jane".

Or so Jim would like to think, if "thinking" is quite the right word
for what Jim does with what's left of his brain.

Which is pretty scary, but I would guess that most red-state (and even
some mixed-state) Democrats may not be thrilled about their
election-year opponents shining a light on them for filibuster-breaking.

One can only hope.

I'm always pleased to note that I'm the highest standard for Slowman's
disdain, but please don't feed the jerk.  Let him die that most
unpleasant of deaths... alone ;-)

Jim obviously has that paragraph permanently stored for repetitive
use. Pity he can't afford to have someone write him something better.

Jim Thompson is a bit of twit, but Jim Yanik is even further out of
his tree, and James Arthur present his delusions rather more
convincingly. And the opinions of the nitwit right-wingers on this
user-group aren't reflected in my social relationships in the real
world - not that this of much relevance to sort of death we can all
expect to die, surrounded by agitated medical staff in an intensive
care ward ...

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

On Apr 29, 12:53 am, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <p...@hovnanian.com> wrote innews:49F7756B.953EEF76@hovnanian.com:

Jim Thompson wrote:

The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

Tell her to use both hands.

Seriously, there isn't enough support (or willingness to incur the wrath
of the voters) in the Democratic party to push it through.

sorry,but Obama wants the US to ratify the UN's small arms control
treaty,and use that as the way to gun control without "violating" the
Constitution.Then the courts will require gun control to fit the Treaty.
Treaties override the Constitution.
Of course,IMO,that is the trigger for bad things to happen.

As if Jim Yanik needs to tell us that. One wonders what sort of "bad
things" he expects to happen - the crime rates in the gun-tolerant
states to rise to the level now observed in NHew York, which has
fairly stringent gun control?

Obama has always been for gun control,never voted against any gun control
bill. And he's a evasive,sneaky,lying SOB weasel.

Or that's Jim Yanik's ever-so-predictable opinion. Since he's a
Democrat, Jim Yanik would think that even if he were the moral paragon
that his supporters believe him to be.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Jon Kirwan]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:07:15 -0700, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com>
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:47:05 -0700, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Actually _less_ than an hour ago...

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/28/specter.party.switch/

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

Fox played a recording of Pelosi saying that two weeks ago.

Pelosi is no surprise, I was curious about Specter.

They both want to be reelected; they're doing what they need to do.

Specter lost Republican Party support and was facing a probable loss
in the primaries. He took his only option. It's not an easy one,
though. Likely to be stiff challenges from other Democrats in the
primary and a mixed situation that could go either way. I think he
was simply weighing which side gave him the better shot and went that
way.

I agree with Specter that the Repubs have moved too far to the right.

No question about that. I have been active in both parties in my day.
Since you are from Oregon (and from the town I now live in), you may
easily recall these Republicans:

Bob Packwood
Mark Hatfield
Wayne Morse
Tom McCall
Mary Alice Ford
Norma Paulus
Vic Atiyeh

I could name many more.

Those _were_ some of the pillars of the Republican party In Oregon in
the first half of my lifetime and I enjoyed the fact that the Oregon
Republican Party then was something to respect. They are (or would
be) nothing but Democrats or Independents, today. The modern Oregon
Republican Party wouldn't even recognize them and would run them out
on a rail.

I think their _may_ be no more than two Republican US Senators left
that might fit the mold those Oregon icons came from. Both from
Maine.

It almost looks as though the Republican Party, on a national level,
is imploding. I honestly would have wanted it to continue with vigor
and strength had it kept the kind of people in it that the better
parts of Morse, McCall, Hatfield, and Packwood represented. But that
is long since gone.

snip
I just want to be able to run my one-man shop without spending all my
time filling out forms, be able to hire one employee without having to
hire another one just to do the paperwork and compliance checking for
the first, and know that at the end of the day the taxes that I pay go
for things that are going to have a positive effect, and pay for
everything without some fools borrowing tons of money and laying the
debt on my (as yet unborn) grandchildren.

I don't think that either the Dems or the Repubs are delivering on that.

On this, I generally agree.

Jon

 

On Apr 29, 12:47 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:24:59 -0700, "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...@yahoo.com
wrote:







"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
messagenews:d7bev4thm46u1t8io05n85ilne48ts4mo7@4ax.com...
The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

                                        ...Jim Thompson
 I love to cook with wine     Sometimes I even put it in the food

Yep, the end is in sight at least for old fools clinging to the CONservative
past. We've had 30 years of deregulation and greed that has culminated in
the collapse of the financial system. This is because unregulated,
uncontrolled, do what you want, Laissez-Faire Capitalism is inherently
unstable. It goes from boom to bust in chaotic cycles. For approximately 50
years since the depression it has been more or less controlled with a
modicum of rules and regulation that kept it reasonably on track. Then along
came Reagan and the Conservatives who over time took many of the regulations
off under the idea that government is not the solution, government is the
problem.

Quiz time: which President negotiated and signed the bill eliminating
the Glass-Steagall regulations?

OK, OK, that's too hard a question. Sorry. The answer is "Clinton."

Next question: which reps followed up by forcing banks to make bad
mortgages?

Interesting concept. Members of the House of Representatives dropping
their legislative work in favour of visiting their friendly
neighbourhood bank and brow-beating the home loan negotiator into
making ninja loans.

It does beg the question of how a member of the House of
Representatives knew enough about individual home loans applicants to
be able to brow-beat the negoatiator into making loans to only thise
applicants who had neither income nor job.

Theoretically, it's the banks who are supposed to find out this kind
of detailed information, and they were supposed to use it to avoid
making home loans to people who had no chance of paying them off, but
in the cloud-cuckoo-land invented by James Arthur for the benefit of
ar-right-thinking nitwits, Congress managed to disrupt this
expectation by insisting that the banks made some loans to people who
lived in low-income neighbourhoods.

The relevant legislation didn't actually say that the recipients of
the loans shouldn't have either an income or a job in order to
qualify, but bankers know that everybody who lives in a low income-
neighbourhood has neither an income nor a job, so they felt free to
infer this implication.

John, if you want to post right-wing "just-so" stories, you really
should send them to some kind of fantasy-oriented user group.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

On Apr 29, 3:54 am, "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...@yahoo.com> wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message

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On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:10:37 -0700, "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...@yahoo.com
wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:24:59 -0700, "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...@yahoo.com
wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote
in
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The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

                                        ...Jim Thompson
 I love to cook with wine     Sometimes I even put it in the food

Yep, the end is in sight at least for old fools clinging to the
CONservative
past. We've had 30 years of deregulation and greed that has culminated
in
the collapse of the financial system. This is because unregulated,
uncontrolled, do what you want, Laissez-Faire Capitalism is inherently
unstable. It goes from boom to bust in chaotic cycles. For
approximately
50
years since the depression it has been more or less controlled with a
modicum of rules and regulation that kept it reasonably on track. Then
along
came Reagan and the Conservatives who over time took many of the
regulations
off under the idea that government is not the solution, government is
the
problem.

Quiz time: which President negotiated and signed the bill eliminating
the Glass-Steagall regulations?

OK, OK, that's too hard a question. Sorry. The answer is "Clinton."

Next question: which reps followed up by forcing banks to make bad
mortgages?

John

You're quite right Clinton signed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act repealing
the
1933 Glass-Steagall act. It was a bad move and Clinton shares the blame,
no
doubt about it. However, all there of those guys, Gramm, Leach and Bliley
were Republicans, right? The fact is that most deregulation comes from
republicans starting with Reagan and Phil (a nation of whiners) Gramm was
a
major player pushing deregulation as recently as last summer as things
were
collapsing. He worked for McCain.

And Clinton was pushing for bank deregulation even before he was
elected President. I wonder why.

John

I doubt that most people believe you that make it out to be Clinton's fault.
In truth Democrats are about 20% culpable and Republicans 80% culpable.
Deregulation was primarily a republican thing you cannot spin it any other
way.

Of course he can. He's a nitwit right-winger when it comes to
politics, and they see the world from a very strange angle.

They end up doing fatuous things - like invading Irak - in
consequence, but there doesn't seem to be any mechanism for re-
engaging their minds with reality.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

On Apr 29, 1:09 am, James Arthur <bogusabd...@verizon.net> wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

 James Arthur wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(
I've been in socialist countries.

They suck.
Welcome to the Future. In case you haven't noticed, the socialists have
been taking over America for generations, and are following the example of
the now-defunct Soviet Union right down the toilet.

Ummm.... wasn't it GWB who introduced the 'Patriot Act' reducing your
liberties.

Graham

That's complete bunk.

That received overwhelming support from both parties, has been
re-affirmed by wide margins several times, and had no effect on
our freedoms.

Or none that you have noticed. Getting politicians to re-affirm
extravangant anti-terrorist legislation is depressingly easy - you
just threaten to smear them as being "pro-terrorist" and they all cave
in.

A very odd criticism to get from a country that videos its citizens'
every move.

The video surveillance cameras in the U.K. are mounted to survey
public places. You can still go to the bathroom in the U.K. with some
expectation that you won't be videoed with your trousers at half mast.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Jon Kirwan]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:49:58 -0700 (PDT), bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

On Apr 28, 11:11 pm, Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote:
bill.slo...@ieee.org wrote:
On Apr 28, 8:34 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:21:55 -0700, "Joel Koltner"

zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
messagenews:d7bev4thm46u1t8io05n85ilne48ts4mo7@4ax.com...
The end is in sight...
Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).
I don't think the democrats are necessarily all that much more attractive than
they've been in say, the past decade... it's more than the republicans have
kinda imploded and Specter is running for cover.
Yep.  But now that they have total power the Democrats are into rape
and plunder.

Total power? The Democrats haven't even got a big enough majority to
block a filibuster.

But Jim Thompson is always reliably out of touch with reality ...

If you troubled yourself to read the article, you'd find that with
Specter flipping to Democrat, if Frankin wins then the Dems _will_ have
the majority to block a filibuster.

If Franklin wins, and the Democrats can get their act together, then
they might be able to block a filibuster. It still falls a long way
short of "total power".
snip

Especially since Specter has specifically mentioned that he won't be a
reliable vote on that score, today. Besides, what about Lieberman?

It falls short of "total power" in the best of circumstances. Likely
the veto proof nature will show itself in only one or two rather
isolated cases. Even with Franklin in place.

Jon

 

On Apr 29, 12:48 am, Tim Wescott <t...@seemywebsite.com> wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(
Link?

Republicans and Democrats both have totally lost sight of their roots,
not to mention any clue of what reality is.  So it's no surprise that
there should be some party switching going on.

They should merge into "The Party of Dippy Ineffective Extremists", and
allow some room for folks who want to see the country governed based on
some form of common sense, rather than knee-jerk litmus tests for
adherence to foolish Utopian* ideals.

You could almost say the same for the UK scenario.

Graham

Can I also blame you guys for inventing the system that we inherited?

Not really. The British electoral system was extensively reformed
around the middle of the 19th century, long after the U.S. had devised
a constitution that was probably more heavily influenced by the
example of the United Provinces of the Netherlands.

If you were looking for ways to improve the U.S. electora system, the
U.K. does seem to a better scheme for controlling electoral
expenditure than the U.S. does - which isn't saying much, because the
U.S. scheme doesn't control expenditure in any particularly noticeable
way.

 

[Robert Baer]

Jim Thompson wrote:

The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

...Jim Thompson
Why promise gun control when the BATF is shutting down gunshops that

have Violations like not crossing tees, dotting eyes, applicants using
"Wash" instead of "WA" or "Washington", etc ad nauseum nevermind that
said applications were APPROVED by BATF in the first place.

 

[Robert Baer]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:34:47 GMT, James Arthur
bogusabdsqy@verizon.net> wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:

The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

...Jim Thompson

I've been in socialist countries.

They suck.

James Arthur


There must be great rejoicing in the Progressive Socialist Party (aka
Democrats).

Only took them 100 days to destroy the USA as we know it :-(

...Jim Thompson
Do not forget that socialism started when FDR stole our gold...

 

[Robert Baer]

Tim Wescott wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

...Jim Thompson


Link?

Republicans and Democrats both have totally lost sight of their roots,
not to mention any clue of what reality is. So it's no surprise that
there should be some party switching going on.

They should merge into "The Party of Dippy Ineffective Extremists", and
* D.I.E. ----------------------------^-----^-----------^

allow some room for folks who want to see the country governed based on
some form of common sense, rather than knee-jerk litmus tests for
adherence to foolish Utopian* ideals.

Joe the Plumber and George Cloony can co-chair the new party.

* OK, so "foolish Utopian" is redundant. But still...

 

[Jim Yanik]

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote in
news:49F7B86B.1F884383@hovnanian.com:

Jim Yanik wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com> wrote in
news:49F7756B.953EEF76@hovnanian.com:

Jim Thompson wrote:

The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

Tell her to use both hands.

Seriously, there isn't enough support (or willingness to incur the
wrath of the voters) in the Democratic party to push it through.


sorry,but Obama wants the US to ratify the UN's small arms control
treaty,and use that as the way to gun control without "violating" the
Constitution.Then the courts will require gun control to fit the
Treaty. Treaties override the Constitution.

Where did you get that idea?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricker_Amendment#Aftermath

But who would rely on the Court to uphold that?

Particularly after Oblama seats more activist Justices that IGNORE the
Constitution,and cite what other countries do.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

[Bob Larter]

Tim Wescott wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(
Link?

Republicans and Democrats both have totally lost sight of their roots,
not to mention any clue of what reality is. So it's no surprise that
there should be some party switching going on.

They should merge into "The Party of Dippy Ineffective Extremists", and
allow some room for folks who want to see the country governed based on
some form of common sense, rather than knee-jerk litmus tests for
adherence to foolish Utopian* ideals.

You could almost say the same for the UK scenario.

Graham

Can I also blame you guys for inventing the system that we inherited?

Are you being serious? The American founders invented that form of
government from scratch.

--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

 

[Bob Larter]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:21:55 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:d7bev4thm46u1t8io05n85ilne48ts4mo7@4ax.com...
The end is in sight...
Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).
I don't think the democrats are necessarily all that much more attractive than
they've been in say, the past decade... it's more than the republicans have
kinda imploded and Specter is running for cover.


Yep. But now that they have total power the Democrats are into rape
and plunder.

It'll be interesting to see if all the wingnut paranoia about Obama ends
up being justified.

--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

 

[Bob Larter]

bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

On Apr 28, 8:34 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:21:55 -0700, "Joel Koltner"

zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
messagenews:d7bev4thm46u1t8io05n85ilne48ts4mo7@4ax.com...
The end is in sight...
Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).
I don't think the democrats are necessarily all that much more attractive than
they've been in say, the past decade... it's more than the republicans have
kinda imploded and Specter is running for cover.
Yep. But now that they have total power the Democrats are into rape
and plunder.

Total power? The Democrats haven't even got a big enough majority to
block a filibuster.

Now that Specter has switched sides, they do.


--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

 

[Jon Kirwan]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:01:14 GMT, Jon Kirwan
<jonk@infinitefactors.org> wrote:

Franklin

.... Franken.

Jon

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:06:50 -0700, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(

...Jim Thompson
Why promise gun control when the BATF is shutting down gunshops that
have Violations like not crossing tees, dotting eyes, applicants using
"Wash" instead of "WA" or "Washington", etc ad nauseum nevermind that
said applications were APPROVED by BATF in the first place.

I presume this is happening in Washington state? Considering that
Washington and Oregon are crawling with leftist weenies I would
suspect it's a state agency doing this, or that the local BATF is (as
would be expected from the locale) infested with leftist weenies??

We don't have any such problems here in AZ.

...Jim Thompson
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[Tim Wescott]

Bob Larter wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:
Eeyore wrote:

Tim Wescott wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
The end is in sight...

Arlen Specter has defected to the Democrat Party (an hour ago).

Pelosi promises gun control :-(
Link?

Republicans and Democrats both have totally lost sight of their roots,
not to mention any clue of what reality is. So it's no surprise that
there should be some party switching going on.

They should merge into "The Party of Dippy Ineffective Extremists", and
allow some room for folks who want to see the country governed based on
some form of common sense, rather than knee-jerk litmus tests for
adherence to foolish Utopian* ideals.

You could almost say the same for the UK scenario.

Graham

Can I also blame you guys for inventing the system that we inherited?

Are you being serious? The American founders invented that form of
government from scratch.

You've got your tongue in cheek, right? The US copied much of the

British system outright, with major changes mostly around the notion of
apportioning the various functions of the kingship to various entities
in government, and a constitution that codified what should be and put
up barriers to things sliding into the dismal state that King George had
brought the Colonies to in the 1700's.

We kept the bicameral legislation system. We kept the notion of
elections to the lower house by head count* and to the upper house by
region. We kept the notion of a single Lord Judge presiding over a
trial that's decided by a jury of 12 men good and true (we dropped the
Lord part, but kept most of the powers). We pretty much adopted British
common law wholesale -- there are reputedly still a few cases of law in
the US where pre-revolutionary British precedents are cited. We kept
the chief executive and head of state functions residing in the same
body (da prez -- other countries don't do it that way).

If a US citizen stumbles into a British courtroom the proceedings will
be a lot more familiar there than they would be in a German or a French one.

* Of course, in England at the time the last head count was in the
middle ages, leading to "rotten boroughs".

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