Tesla is fast...

On 06/03/2022 09:48 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 14:11:45 +1000, Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net
wrote:

On 3/6/22 04:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:52:41 -0700 (PDT), RichD
r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

Today the electric cars are the quickest on the road.
The classic petrol muscle cars are vying for the silver medal.

Was it obvious to the designers, from day one,
that this would be the case? Is it simply a power/weight calculation?

I\'m congenitally leery of simple explanations -

Elon is a hoot. He just told his employees to physically return to
work, or pretend to work somewhere else.

It\'s a way of downsizing without the cost of lay-offs. The company is
clearly in trouble.

Today\'s news was about a 10% RIF at Tesla.

Sales are up, profit is up, so why RIF?
I think he\'s trying to get ahead of a recession. Pare the deadwood now
and tighten up. In theory the laid off workers can get work, at least
for the time being.
 
On 06/03/2022 12:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:06:25 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/02/2022 02:18 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:55:55 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

You said \"minors\" meaning young people, nothing about mining.
OCD fuckwit. I actually spelt it like that for a laugh, making fun of our fucked up language. Anyway minors are more fun than miners.

Unusual sense of humour.

How are we supposed to know what you mean?

It could mean either in the context of the conversation.

And most Lithium is \"mined\" using brine extraction, it does not involve digging holes.
https://champ4mt.com/the-dangers-of-lithium-mining-and-how-to-do-something-about-it.html

kw


Then there are the minor miners:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/child-miners#27

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, no trucks, no tailings. Nobody even needs to be there.

Fracking needs a little more attention, but the action is still deep
underground.

I always get a kick out of those grasshoppers out in the middle of
nowhere doing there thing. I get even a bigger kick out of the ones you
stumble over in the middle of Anaheim. iirc there were a couple off
State College north of Ball.
 
On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 7:11:48 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 14:04:57 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 11:04:42 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, ...

Huh? One hundred percent chemical product, guy! Byproducts
galore, so much pollution the weather is taking notice!

Go live in a tent. Forage for food. Burn rushes for light. Wear fur
when it\'s cold. Cook over dung. Walk everywhere. Enjoy.

The only options John Larkin is aware of. There are others, but you\'ve got to be able to do minimal critical thinking before you can notice them.

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.

John Larkin has the certainties, but he hasn\'t graduated to getting the doubts yet.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 11:02:33 AM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jun 2022 15:12:59 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
On 06/03/2022 12:43 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jun 2022 05:06:25 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
On 06/02/2022 02:18 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:55:55 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

In fact I would have preferred to work hard as a child and retire earlier.

With black lung there wasn\'t need for a complex retirement plan.

https://poets.org/poem/chimney-sweeper

\"When my mother died I was very young,
And my father sold me while yet my tongue
Could scarcely cry \'Weep! weep! weep! weep!\'
So your chimneys I sweep, and in soot I sleep.\"

William Blake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimney_sweeps%27_carcinoma
They\'ve invented masks now. And I doubt the kids got black lung more than the adults would have.

They did get cancer of the scrotum, and didn\'t last long enough to get lung cancer. Masks don\'t help much against cancer of the scrotum.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 9:01:34 PM UTC-7, rbowman wrote:
On 06/03/2022 09:48 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 14:11:45 +1000, Clifford Heath <no....@please.net
wrote:

On 3/6/22 04:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:52:41 -0700 (PDT), RichD
r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Today the electric cars are the quickest on the road.
The classic petrol muscle cars are vying for the silver medal.

Was it obvious to the designers, from day one,
that this would be the case? Is it simply a power/weight calculation?

I\'m congenitally leery of simple explanations -

Elon is a hoot. He just told his employees to physically return to
work, or pretend to work somewhere else.

It\'s a way of downsizing without the cost of lay-offs. The company is
clearly in trouble.

Today\'s news was about a 10% RIF at Tesla.

Sales are up, profit is up, so why RIF?




I think he\'s trying to get ahead of a recession. Pare the deadwood now
and tighten up. In theory the laid off workers can get work, at least
for the time being.

Watch the M2M on BTC.
 
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 05:06:15 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2022 12:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:06:25 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/02/2022 02:18 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:55:55 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

You said \"minors\" meaning young people, nothing about mining.
OCD fuckwit. I actually spelt it like that for a laugh, making fun of our fucked up language. Anyway minors are more fun than miners.

Unusual sense of humour.

How are we supposed to know what you mean?

It could mean either in the context of the conversation.

And most Lithium is \"mined\" using brine extraction, it does not involve digging holes.
https://champ4mt.com/the-dangers-of-lithium-mining-and-how-to-do-something-about-it.html

kw


Then there are the minor miners:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/child-miners#27

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, no trucks, no tailings. Nobody even needs to be there.

Fracking needs a little more attention, but the action is still deep
underground.


I always get a kick out of those grasshoppers out in the middle of
nowhere doing there thing. I get even a bigger kick out of the ones you
stumble over in the middle of Anaheim. iirc there were a couple off
State College north of Ball.

I take it you mean a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcykqOwDvyc and not a https://youtu.be/NfJQx8ZEr54?t=50 or a https://youtu.be/yMFqyabMJTo
 
On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 16:07:54 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 2:11:48 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 14:04:57 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 11:04:42 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, ...

Huh? One hundred percent chemical product, guy! Byproducts
galore, so much pollution the weather is taking notice!

Go live in a tent. Forage for food. Burn rushes for light. Wear fur
when it\'s cold. Cook over dung. Walk everywhere. Enjoy.

JL is so shortsighted, he only sees the input end of \'a pipeline\',
and ignores the other one. As long as he\'s on this planet, the
other end IS his concern, just one he\'s neglected for decades.

I\'m in a warm house, in front of a computer drinking hot Peets coffee.
All that thanks to fossil fuel. I don\'t ignore this stuff; I
appreciate it all the time, as I have for decades.

Fossil fuels are lifting the world out of miserable poverty. Net Zero,
if that crazy idea ever could happen, would kill billions and set the
world back centuries.

But be as afraid as you want to be. Some people live in fear by
nature. There are hilarious youtubes of neurotic terrified young
airheads who have despaired on life because AGW will destroy all human
life soon.

Some things that have revolutionized agricultural yield are
ammonia-based fertilizers, farm machinery, pumped watering, transport,
and more CO2. All from fossil fuels.

Well, the CO2 increase was probably mostly natural.



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar
 
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 08:00:34 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 05:06:15 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2022 12:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:06:25 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/02/2022 02:18 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:55:55 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

You said \"minors\" meaning young people, nothing about mining.
OCD fuckwit. I actually spelt it like that for a laugh, making fun of our fucked up language. Anyway minors are more fun than miners.

Unusual sense of humour.

How are we supposed to know what you mean?

It could mean either in the context of the conversation.

And most Lithium is \"mined\" using brine extraction, it does not involve digging holes.
https://champ4mt.com/the-dangers-of-lithium-mining-and-how-to-do-something-about-it.html

kw


Then there are the minor miners:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/child-miners#27

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, no trucks, no tailings. Nobody even needs to be there.

Fracking needs a little more attention, but the action is still deep
underground.


I always get a kick out of those grasshoppers out in the middle of
nowhere doing there thing. I get even a bigger kick out of the ones you
stumble over in the middle of Anaheim. iirc there were a couple off
State College north of Ball.

I take it you mean a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcykqOwDvyc and not a https://youtu.be/NfJQx8ZEr54?t=50 or a https://youtu.be/yMFqyabMJTo

The greenies would eliminate one and have us eat the other.



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar
 
On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 12:52:06 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 16:07:54 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 2:11:48 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 14:04:57 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 11:04:42 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, ...

Huh? One hundred percent chemical product, guy! Byproducts
galore, so much pollution the weather is taking notice!

Go live in a tent. Forage for food. Burn rushes for light. Wear fur
when it\'s cold. Cook over dung. Walk everywhere. Enjoy.

JL is so shortsighted, he only sees the input end of \'a pipeline\',
and ignores the other one. As long as he\'s on this planet, the
other end IS his concern, just one he\'s neglected for decades.

I\'m in a warm house, in front of a computer drinking hot Peets coffee.
All that thanks to fossil fuel. I don\'t ignore this stuff; I
appreciate it all the time, as I have for decades.

Fossil fuels are lifting the world out of miserable poverty.

Have lifted the world out of miserable poverty. Excess CO2 in the atmosphere is likely to get it back there.

> Net Zero, if that crazy idea ever could happen, would kill billions and set the world back centuries.

If implemented by people as silly as John Larkin, it might do that. Renewable energy is now cheaper that the energy you generate by fossil carbon, but the people who sell the fossil carbon as fuel aren\'t enthusiastic about admitting it.

But be as afraid as you want to be. Some people live in fear by
nature. There are hilarious youtubes of neurotic terrified young
airheads who have despaired on life because AGW will destroy all human
life soon.

It won\'t, but anthropogenic global warming is already making life more difficult for some people.
The airheads who haven\'t noticed aren\'t in the least funny.

> Some things that have revolutionized agricultural yield are ammonia-based fertilizers, farm machinery, pumped watering, transport, and more CO2. All from fossil fuels.

The extra CO2 is demonstrably from burning fossil fuels. The rest you can get from renewable energy sources.

> Well, the CO2 increase was probably mostly natural.

Wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suess_effect

John Larkin has been told about it before, but he skipped the relevant chemistry lecture and can\'t follow the story.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 06/04/2022 01:00 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 05:06:15 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2022 12:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:06:25 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/02/2022 02:18 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:55:55 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

You said \"minors\" meaning young people, nothing about mining.
OCD fuckwit. I actually spelt it like that for a laugh, making fun
of our fucked up language. Anyway minors are more fun than miners.

Unusual sense of humour.

How are we supposed to know what you mean?

It could mean either in the context of the conversation.

And most Lithium is \"mined\" using brine extraction, it does not
involve digging holes.
https://champ4mt.com/the-dangers-of-lithium-mining-and-how-to-do-something-about-it.html


kw


Then there are the minor miners:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/child-miners#27

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, no trucks, no tailings. Nobody even needs to be there.

Fracking needs a little more attention, but the action is still deep
underground.


I always get a kick out of those grasshoppers out in the middle of
nowhere doing there thing. I get even a bigger kick out of the ones you
stumble over in the middle of Anaheim. iirc there were a couple off
State College north of Ball.

I take it you mean a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcykqOwDvyc and not
a https://youtu.be/NfJQx8ZEr54?t=50 or a https://youtu.be/yMFqyabMJTo

Yup. The other part of it is the flares. You\'d be driving through
Wyoming at night in the middle of nowhere and there would be flares
miles off the road. Rather eerie.

I don\'t know if the still burn the gas off oil wells, gorbal warming and
all, you know.
 
On 06/04/2022 08:54 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 08:00:34 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 05:06:15 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2022 12:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:06:25 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/02/2022 02:18 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:55:55 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

You said \"minors\" meaning young people, nothing about mining.
OCD fuckwit. I actually spelt it like that for a laugh, making fun of our fucked up language. Anyway minors are more fun than miners.

Unusual sense of humour.

How are we supposed to know what you mean?

It could mean either in the context of the conversation.

And most Lithium is \"mined\" using brine extraction, it does not involve digging holes.
https://champ4mt.com/the-dangers-of-lithium-mining-and-how-to-do-something-about-it.html

kw


Then there are the minor miners:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/child-miners#27

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, no trucks, no tailings. Nobody even needs to be there.

Fracking needs a little more attention, but the action is still deep
underground.


I always get a kick out of those grasshoppers out in the middle of
nowhere doing there thing. I get even a bigger kick out of the ones you
stumble over in the middle of Anaheim. iirc there were a couple off
State College north of Ball.

I take it you mean a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcykqOwDvyc and not a https://youtu.be/NfJQx8ZEr54?t=50 or a https://youtu.be/yMFqyabMJTo

The greenies would eliminate one and have us eat the other.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSO1gPxyRAw


Grasshoppers are good! Reese has went mainstream in their selections but
in the \'50 they had an attack of weird:

https://reesespecialtyfoods.com/about/unheard-delicacies

Cans of grasshoppers, whale, chocolate covered ants, and so forth would
appear at parties and the adults would cajole the kids into playing
guinea pig. There was alcohol involved. The grasshoppers did taste a bit
like chips and the whale was heavy on the teriyaki sauce.

Some of the indigenous tribes liked grasshopper. Harvesting didn\'t
involve nets. You set fire to the field and when the flames died down
you gathered the hoppers; the annoying legs and wings would be burned
off leaving a tasty toasted hopper.

It\'s not as far fetched as it sounds. There\'s a lot of good eating on a
Carolina grasshopper.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissosteira_carolina
 
On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 7:52:06 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 16:07:54 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 2:11:48 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 14:04:57 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 11:04:42 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, ...

Huh? One hundred percent chemical product, guy! Byproducts
galore, so much pollution the weather is taking notice!

Go live in a tent. Forage for food. Burn rushes for light. Wear fur
when it\'s cold. Cook over dung. Walk everywhere. Enjoy.

JL is so shortsighted, he only sees the input end of \'a pipeline\',
and ignores the other one. As long as he\'s on this planet, the
other end IS his concern, just one he\'s neglected for decades.

I\'m in a warm house, in front of a computer drinking hot Peets coffee.
All that thanks to fossil fuel. I don\'t ignore this stuff; I
appreciate it all the time, as I have for decades.

Okay, and I\'m in a warm house, computer, Peets coffee (Big Bang)
but my electricity is hydroelectric, and I\'m not a shortsighted jackass.
The next decades do not have to replicate previous ones. Design
them for improvement, and ditch the insistence on familiarity: there\'s
THREE terms in a PID control, and it works because it acknowledges a
plausible future. You need to dial down the integral term, or it\'ll kill the regulation.
 
On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 5:05:01 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 11:04:42 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, ...

Huh? One hundred percent chemical product, guy! Byproducts
galore, so much pollution the weather is taking notice!

Sometimes I just have to laugh. I don\'t know if the idiot is just an idiot, or if he posts such clearly silly things, just to get a response, which is not at all unlike him, by his own admission. But even funnier is that we all keep playing along, giving him the attention he craves.

He reminds me of a guy who used to post in the radio groups, I say \"used to\" because I don\'t read them anymore. I can\'t recall his name anymore, but he would respond to everything anyone said, including countless arguments. The guy became rather famous and any time he entered a new group, he very quickly was spotted and pointed out.

Larkin is a bit more highly functioning, but he still has various self destructive tendencies. I\'m just surprised that people here continue to rise to the bait with him.

Whatever...

--

Rick C.

+++-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+++-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 9:04:59 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 00:07:54 +0100, whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 2:11:48 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 14:04:57 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 11:04:42 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, ...

Huh? One hundred percent chemical product, guy! Byproducts
galore, so much pollution the weather is taking notice!

Go live in a tent. Forage for food. Burn rushes for light. Wear fur
when it\'s cold. Cook over dung. Walk everywhere. Enjoy.

JL is so shortsighted, he only sees the input end of \'a pipeline\',
and ignores the other one. As long as he\'s on this planet, the
other end IS his concern, just one he\'s neglected for decades.
Fuck off treehugger.

Well said, indeed! I can\'t recall a more erudite retort!

--

Rick C.

+++-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+++-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 12:01:34 AM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:
On 06/03/2022 09:48 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 14:11:45 +1000, Clifford Heath <no....@please.net
wrote:

On 3/6/22 04:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:52:41 -0700 (PDT), RichD
r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Today the electric cars are the quickest on the road.
The classic petrol muscle cars are vying for the silver medal.

Was it obvious to the designers, from day one,
that this would be the case? Is it simply a power/weight calculation?

I\'m congenitally leery of simple explanations -

Elon is a hoot. He just told his employees to physically return to
work, or pretend to work somewhere else.

It\'s a way of downsizing without the cost of lay-offs. The company is
clearly in trouble.

Today\'s news was about a 10% RIF at Tesla.

Sales are up, profit is up, so why RIF?




I think he\'s trying to get ahead of a recession. Pare the deadwood now
and tighten up. In theory the laid off workers can get work, at least
for the time being.

We will see how that works for him. A 10% reduction has to impact Tesla production rates. That cuts into the bottom line. I suppose they can make it up by raising prices again.

The insane part is, there\'s no reason to think a recession will hurt Tesla sales, not unless it is large. To me, it makes no sense, unless there is some other limiting factor, such as a material shortage, that would require a lay off anyway. There\'s certainly no reason to \"get ahead\" of a recession by cutting factory output at a time of booming sales. That is very much like leaning into a left hook.

--

Rick C.

++++- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
++++- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 12:58:23 PM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:
On 06/04/2022 01:00 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 05:06:15 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2022 12:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:06:25 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/02/2022 02:18 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:55:55 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

You said \"minors\" meaning young people, nothing about mining.
OCD fuckwit. I actually spelt it like that for a laugh, making fun
of our fucked up language. Anyway minors are more fun than miners.

Unusual sense of humour.

How are we supposed to know what you mean?

It could mean either in the context of the conversation.

And most Lithium is \"mined\" using brine extraction, it does not
involve digging holes.
https://champ4mt.com/the-dangers-of-lithium-mining-and-how-to-do-something-about-it.html


kw


Then there are the minor miners:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/child-miners#27

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, no trucks, no tailings. Nobody even needs to be there.

Fracking needs a little more attention, but the action is still deep
underground.


I always get a kick out of those grasshoppers out in the middle of
nowhere doing there thing. I get even a bigger kick out of the ones you
stumble over in the middle of Anaheim. iirc there were a couple off
State College north of Ball.

I take it you mean a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcykqOwDvyc and not
a https://youtu.be/NfJQx8ZEr54?t=50 or a https://youtu.be/yMFqyabMJTo
Yup. The other part of it is the flares. You\'d be driving through
Wyoming at night in the middle of nowhere and there would be flares
miles off the road. Rather eerie.

I don\'t know if the still burn the gas off oil wells, gorbal warming and
all, you know.

Better to burn it than to release it. But then anyone who is paying attention knows that.

--

Rick C.

+++++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+++++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
rbowman wrote:
On 06/04/2022 01:00 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 05:06:15 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2022 12:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:06:25 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/02/2022 02:18 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:55:55 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

You said \"minors\" meaning young people, nothing about mining.
OCD fuckwit. I actually spelt it like that for a laugh, making fun
of our fucked up language. Anyway minors are more fun than miners.

Unusual sense of humour.

How are we supposed to know what you mean?

It could mean either in the context of the conversation.

And most Lithium is \"mined\" using brine extraction, it does not
involve digging holes.
https://champ4mt.com/the-dangers-of-lithium-mining-and-how-to-do-something-about-it.html



kw


Then there are the minor miners:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/child-miners#27

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, no trucks, no tailings. Nobody even needs to be there.

Fracking needs a little more attention, but the action is still deep
underground.


I always get a kick out of those grasshoppers out in the middle of
nowhere doing there thing. I get even a bigger kick out of the ones you
stumble over in the middle of Anaheim. iirc there were a couple off
State College north of Ball.

I take it you mean a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcykqOwDvyc and not
a https://youtu.be/NfJQx8ZEr54?t=50 or a https://youtu.be/yMFqyabMJTo

Yup. The other part of it is the flares. You\'d be driving through
Wyoming at night in the middle of nowhere and there would be flares
miles off the road. Rather eerie.

I don\'t know if the still burn the gas off oil wells, gorbal warming and
all, you know.

A lot of stranded gas is now liquefied using thermoacoustic fridges
powered by a much smaller amount of gas. IIRC the yield is something
like 70%, which is a big win.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 06/04/2022 03:40 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
rbowman wrote:
On 06/04/2022 01:00 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 05:06:15 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2022 12:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:06:25 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/02/2022 02:18 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:55:55 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

You said \"minors\" meaning young people, nothing about mining.
OCD fuckwit. I actually spelt it like that for a laugh, making fun
of our fucked up language. Anyway minors are more fun than miners.

Unusual sense of humour.

How are we supposed to know what you mean?

It could mean either in the context of the conversation.

And most Lithium is \"mined\" using brine extraction, it does not
involve digging holes.
https://champ4mt.com/the-dangers-of-lithium-mining-and-how-to-do-something-about-it.html



kw


Then there are the minor miners:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/child-miners#27

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, no trucks, no tailings. Nobody even needs to be there.

Fracking needs a little more attention, but the action is still deep
underground.


I always get a kick out of those grasshoppers out in the middle of
nowhere doing there thing. I get even a bigger kick out of the ones you
stumble over in the middle of Anaheim. iirc there were a couple off
State College north of Ball.

I take it you mean a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcykqOwDvyc and not
a https://youtu.be/NfJQx8ZEr54?t=50 or a https://youtu.be/yMFqyabMJTo

Yup. The other part of it is the flares. You\'d be driving through
Wyoming at night in the middle of nowhere and there would be flares
miles off the road. Rather eerie.

I don\'t know if the still burn the gas off oil wells, gorbal warming
and all, you know.

A lot of stranded gas is now liquefied using thermoacoustic fridges
powered by a much smaller amount of gas. IIRC the yield is something
like 70%, which is a big win.

After a little reading the volume dropped off for a while but has picked
up again.

https://www.naturalgasintel.com/permian-methane-flaring-venting-said-still-stubbornly-high/

That article claims

EDF said other satellite data indicates Permian operators sent 280 Bcf
of gas worth about $420 million up their flare stacks in 2019, which was
“more than enough to supply every home in Texas.”


It wouldn\'t have helped the infrastructure problems but it\'s ironic that
during the Big Freeze last year the varmints in the Permian were warm
and cozy.
 
rbowman wrote:
On 06/04/2022 03:40 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
rbowman wrote:
On 06/04/2022 01:00 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 05:06:15 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2022 12:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:06:25 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On 06/02/2022 02:18 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:55:55 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

You said \"minors\" meaning young people, nothing about mining.
OCD fuckwit. I actually spelt it like that for a laugh, making fun
of our fucked up language. Anyway minors are more fun than miners.

Unusual sense of humour.

How are we supposed to know what you mean?

It could mean either in the context of the conversation.

And most Lithium is \"mined\" using brine extraction, it does not
involve digging holes.
https://champ4mt.com/the-dangers-of-lithium-mining-and-how-to-do-something-about-it.html




kw


Then there are the minor miners:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/child-miners#27

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, no trucks, no tailings. Nobody even needs to be there.

Fracking needs a little more attention, but the action is still deep
underground.


I always get a kick out of those grasshoppers out in the middle of
nowhere doing there thing. I get even a bigger kick out of the ones
you
stumble over in the middle of Anaheim. iirc there were a couple off
State College north of Ball.

I take it you mean a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcykqOwDvyc and
not
a https://youtu.be/NfJQx8ZEr54?t=50 or a https://youtu.be/yMFqyabMJTo

Yup. The other part of it is the flares. You\'d be driving through
Wyoming at night in the middle of nowhere and there would be flares
miles off the road. Rather eerie.

I don\'t know if the still burn the gas off oil wells, gorbal warming
and all, you know.

A lot of stranded gas is now liquefied using thermoacoustic fridges
powered by a much smaller amount of gas.  IIRC the yield is something
like 70%, which is a big win.

After a little reading the volume dropped off for a while but has picked
up again.

https://www.naturalgasintel.com/permian-methane-flaring-venting-said-still-stubbornly-high/


That article claims

EDF said other satellite data indicates Permian operators sent 280 Bcf
of gas worth about $420 million up their flare stacks in 2019, which was
“more than enough to supply every home in Texas.”


It wouldn\'t have helped the infrastructure problems but it\'s ironic that
during the Big Freeze last year the varmints in the Permian were warm
and cozy.

The stranded gas problem has been around for a long time.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 06/04/2022 09:08 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
rbowman wrote:
On 06/04/2022 03:40 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
rbowman wrote:
On 06/04/2022 01:00 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 05:06:15 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On 06/03/2022 12:04 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:06:25 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On 06/02/2022 02:18 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 21:55:55 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

You said \"minors\" meaning young people, nothing about mining.
OCD fuckwit. I actually spelt it like that for a laugh, making
fun
of our fucked up language. Anyway minors are more fun than
miners.

Unusual sense of humour.

How are we supposed to know what you mean?

It could mean either in the context of the conversation.

And most Lithium is \"mined\" using brine extraction, it does not
involve digging holes.
https://champ4mt.com/the-dangers-of-lithium-mining-and-how-to-do-something-about-it.html




kw


Then there are the minor miners:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/child-miners#27

Oil and gas are great. Once you drill a well, the stuff just
comes up
and flows into a pipeline. No dust, no miners, no crushers, no
chemicals, no trucks, no tailings. Nobody even needs to be there.

Fracking needs a little more attention, but the action is still deep
underground.


I always get a kick out of those grasshoppers out in the middle of
nowhere doing there thing. I get even a bigger kick out of the
ones you
stumble over in the middle of Anaheim. iirc there were a couple off
State College north of Ball.

I take it you mean a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcykqOwDvyc
and not
a https://youtu.be/NfJQx8ZEr54?t=50 or a https://youtu.be/yMFqyabMJTo

Yup. The other part of it is the flares. You\'d be driving through
Wyoming at night in the middle of nowhere and there would be flares
miles off the road. Rather eerie.

I don\'t know if the still burn the gas off oil wells, gorbal warming
and all, you know.

A lot of stranded gas is now liquefied using thermoacoustic fridges
powered by a much smaller amount of gas. IIRC the yield is something
like 70%, which is a big win.

After a little reading the volume dropped off for a while but has
picked up again.

https://www.naturalgasintel.com/permian-methane-flaring-venting-said-still-stubbornly-high/


That article claims

EDF said other satellite data indicates Permian operators sent 280 Bcf
of gas worth about $420 million up their flare stacks in 2019, which
was “more than enough to supply every home in Texas.”


It wouldn\'t have helped the infrastructure problems but it\'s ironic
that during the Big Freeze last year the varmints in the Permian were
warm and cozy.

The stranded gas problem has been around for a long time.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Russia has it big time. Assuming the ever build the Alaska gas pipeline
the logical path from the Siberian fields would be across the Bering and
hook into the Alaskan pipe, not that that will ever happen. The Bakken
isn\'t much better. For that matter while the Marcellus play isn\'t
technically stranded no way are they going to build a pipeline to get it
to New England, where they\'ve been known to import LNG from Russia.
(Thank you, Jones Act).
 

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