Solar power now werth it?

[MisterE]

Origin have 1kilowatt solar power system fully installed for $4,495, after
$8,000 goverment rebate and $1,000 renewable energy rebate. So all up it
costs about $5 per watt for solar power that is meant to last 30 years. On
average 1kw array will produce 6kw hours per day of actual back to grid
energy. This makes the total lifetime power 65,700 kilowatt hours. Tarriff
11 is about 15.5 cents per kilowatt hour, so all up 65,700 watt hours is
werth $10,183.50. So if you pay more than $85 per quarter on traff 11 it
might now actually be cheaper to get solar power.

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:10:02 +1000, "MisterE" <voids@sometwher.world>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Origin have 1kilowatt solar power system fully installed for $4,495, after
$8,000 goverment rebate and $1,000 renewable energy rebate. So all up it
costs about $5 per watt for solar power that is meant to last 30 years. On
average 1kw array will produce 6kw hours per day of actual back to grid
energy. This makes the total lifetime power 65,700 kilowatt hours. Tarriff
11 is about 15.5 cents per kilowatt hour, so all up 65,700 watt hours is
werth $10,183.50. So if you pay more than $85 per quarter on traff 11 it
might now actually be cheaper to get solar power.

If you invested the capital cost in a term deposit at 5%pa interest
(after tax), then after 30 years you would have $19427. If you
invested it in your mortgage, then you would be even better off.

- Franc Zabkar
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[Mauried]

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 06:34:05 +1100, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:10:02 +1000, "MisterE" <voids@sometwher.world
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Origin have 1kilowatt solar power system fully installed for $4,495, after
$8,000 goverment rebate and $1,000 renewable energy rebate. So all up it
costs about $5 per watt for solar power that is meant to last 30 years. On
average 1kw array will produce 6kw hours per day of actual back to grid
energy. This makes the total lifetime power 65,700 kilowatt hours. Tarriff
11 is about 15.5 cents per kilowatt hour, so all up 65,700 watt hours is
werth $10,183.50. So if you pay more than $85 per quarter on traff 11 it
might now actually be cheaper to get solar power.

If you invested the capital cost in a term deposit at 5%pa interest
(after tax), then after 30 years you would have $19427. If you
invested it in your mortgage, then you would be even better off.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

The 1 Kw array for $4495 only makes 4 KWH a day not 6 .
Its the 1.5 KWH one that makes 6.
As Franc stated it just aint worth it.
You are spending $4495 to make 4 KWH of electricity ,(worth 60 cents)
a day.
Thats a return of 4.8%.
I can think of plenty of better ways of investing my money.

The real ripoff is the high price of Solar panels in Australia.
On average around $8 a watt, but in the US the same panels are
$4 a watt.
Something not right and it aint the exchange rate.

 

[GB]

mauried@tpg.com.au (Mauried) wrote in news:4744be8d.129026625
@news.tpg.com.au:

The real ripoff is the high price of Solar panels in Australia.
On average around $8 a watt, but in the US the same panels are
$4 a watt. Something not right and it aint the exchange rate.

Thye're bulky. We're a long way from anywhere. Shipping costs,
import duties (and of course a bit of profiteering on the part
of the importers).


GB
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[Mauried]

On 22 Nov 2007 13:35:32 +1100, GB <gb0307@kickindanuts.threefiddy.com>
wrote:

mauried@tpg.com.au (Mauried) wrote in news:4744be8d.129026625
@news.tpg.com.au:
The real ripoff is the high price of Solar panels in Australia.
On average around $8 a watt, but in the US the same panels are
$4 a watt. Something not right and it aint the exchange rate.

Thye're bulky. We're a long way from anywhere. Shipping costs,
import duties (and of course a bit of profiteering on the part
of the importers).


GB
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A lot of the more popular brands of Solar Panels are now made in
Malaysia and the Phillipines,so the shipping costs to the US would be
the same as to here.
Its more likely that as there is a Govt subsidy available, the
importers are just keeping the prices high.
Subsidies usually always drive up the prices of what is being
subsidised.

 

[MisterE]

A lot of the more popular brands of Solar Panels are now made in
Malaysia and the Phillipines,so the shipping costs to the US would be
the same as to here.
Its more likely that as there is a Govt subsidy available, the
importers are just keeping the prices high.
Subsidies usually always drive up the prices of what is being
subsidised.

Tell me about it , i used to buy 5000L water tanks for $650, now they are
$1250 The dought and everyone buying them drove the prices up now down,
and its not like there is a shortage, they are everywhere.

 

[geoff]

MisterE wrote:

Origin have 1kilowatt solar power system fully installed for $4,495,
after $8,000 goverment rebate and $1,000 renewable energy rebate. So
all up it costs about $5 per watt for solar power that is meant to
last 30 years. On average 1kw array will produce 6kw hours per day of
actual back to grid energy. This makes the total lifetime power
65,700 kilowatt hours. Tarriff 11 is about 15.5 cents per kilowatt
hour, so all up 65,700 watt hours is werth $10,183.50. So if you pay
more than $85 per quarter on traff 11 it might now actually be
cheaper to get solar power.

But not as good a value as a 'basic spelling' course....


geoff

 

[MisterE]

"geoff" <geoff@nospam-paf.co.nz> wrote in message
news:IOOdnfNWarUChdvanZ2dnUVZ_tKinZ2d@giganews.com...

MisterE wrote:
Origin have 1kilowatt solar power system fully installed for $4,495,
after $8,000 goverment rebate and $1,000 renewable energy rebate. So
all up it costs about $5 per watt for solar power that is meant to
last 30 years. On average 1kw array will produce 6kw hours per day of
actual back to grid energy. This makes the total lifetime power
65,700 kilowatt hours. Tarriff 11 is about 15.5 cents per kilowatt
hour, so all up 65,700 watt hours is werth $10,183.50. So if you pay
more than $85 per quarter on traff 11 it might now actually be
cheaper to get solar power.

But not as good a value as a 'basic spelling' course....

tis called slang.
Now get that stick our of your ass

 

[John Tserkezis]

MisterE wrote:

But not as good a value as a 'basic spelling' course....

tis called slang.

No, that was a spelling issue.

Now get that stick our of your ass

Correct Queen's english spelling is "arse".
Another spelling issue: "our" should be "out".
And while we're at it, there should be a full stop at the end.
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<http://counter.li.org>

 

[Bob Parker]

On 23/11/2007 19:33 John Tserkezis wrote:

MisterE wrote:

But not as good a value as a 'basic spelling' course....

tis called slang.

No, that was a spelling issue.

Now get that stick our of your ass

Correct Queen's english spelling is "arse".
Another spelling issue: "our" should be "out".
And while we're at it, there should be a full stop at the end.

None boters wit spelin or puntacion this daze.

 

[Ross Herbert]

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:34:38 GMT, mauried@tpg.com.au (Mauried) wrote:

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 06:34:05 +1100, Franc Zabkar
fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:10:02 +1000, "MisterE"
voids@sometwher.world
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Origin have 1kilowatt solar power system fully installed for
$4,495, after
$8,000 goverment rebate and $1,000 renewable energy rebate. So all
up it
costs about $5 per watt for solar power that is meant to last 30
years. On
average 1kw array will produce 6kw hours per day of actual back to
grid
energy. This makes the total lifetime power 65,700 kilowatt hours.
Tarriff
11 is about 15.5 cents per kilowatt hour, so all up 65,700 watt
hours is
werth $10,183.50. So if you pay more than $85 per quarter on traff
11 it
might now actually be cheaper to get solar power.

If you invested the capital cost in a term deposit at 5%pa interest
(after tax), then after 30 years you would have $19427. If you
invested it in your mortgage, then you would be even better off.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.


The 1 Kw array for $4495 only makes 4 KWH a day not 6 .
Its the 1.5 KWH one that makes 6.
As Franc stated it just aint worth it.
You are spending $4495 to make 4 KWH of electricity ,(worth 60 cents)
a day.
Thats a return of 4.8%.
I can think of plenty of better ways of investing my money.

Aha, the economic rationalists are in for a rude shock...

It is a near certainty that the real cost of purchasing domestic
electricity will skyrocket in the next few years so the viability of
"going solar" will be almost on a par. It also depends on the
individual circumstances and where you live. If you live several
hundred metres from the nearest power line route the $30k (or more)
you are required to spend to have the power line extended makes solar
power cheap by comparison. We don't all live in the city you know.

 

[GB]

John Tserkezis <jt@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote in news:47469068$0
$4915$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:

Correct Queen's english spelling is "arse".
Another spelling issue: "our" should be "out".
And while we're at it, there should be a full stop at the end.

Not to mention, "anal retentive" should be hyphenated.


GB
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officer's authority" (Reiss, 1971 c.in Jermier & Berkes 1979)

 

[John Tserkezis]

GB wrote:

Not to mention, "anal retentive" should be hyphenated.

And yet...
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