So, you wanted a cheap notebook?

[larwe]

On May 23, 5:41 am, The Real Andy <thereala...@nospam.com> wrote:

And can your PDA run standard linux or windows executables without
recompiling?

Can the Eee run standard linux or windows executables with out
recompiling?

Yes. It is just a tiny PC.

A C compiler that runs on it?

Why would I want that on a personal device. Dont you have better
things to do with your life?

In summary: You don't have any use for an Eee. Other people do. There
is no point of contact between these two viewpoints, so there is no
perceptible reason for conflict and hence no purpose to your argument.

 

[John Devereux]

The Real Andy <therealandy@nospam.com> writes:

On Thu, 22 May 2008 08:09:08 -0700 (PDT), cs_posting@hotmail.com
wrote:

On May 22, 5:37 am, The Real Andy <thereala...@nospam.com> wrote:

But does not fit in a large pocket, which is the point of the Eee.
They're not in the same marketplace as a basic laptop - they are
ultraportable.

If I want portable I can buy a PDA for the same cash, if not cheaper.

And can your PDA run standard linux or windows executables without
recompiling?

Can the Eee run standard linux or windows executables with out
recompiling?



Does you PDA have a full keyboard?

The one I have does.


A C compiler that runs on it?

Why would I want that on a personal device. Dont you have better
things to do with your life?


The EeePC is not the world's best laptop, but it's 90% of what a
laptop computer is supposed to be, in a the form factor of a large PDA.

My point is, that if you are not a computer geek, what use does the
EeePC really have?

It's a small, light, low cost, portable media player / web browser /
email client.

You can work with Excel spreadsheets and Word documents. There are
many free linux applications preinstalled, including OpenOffice. You
can download others. Also it can run Windows and standard Windows
applications.

--

John Devereux

 

On May 23, 9:38 am, John Devereux <jdREM...@THISdevereux.me.uk> wrote:

My point is, that if you are not a computer geek, what use does the
EeePC really have?

It's a small, light, low cost, portable media player / web browser /
email client.

Yes, but unlike specialized devices that do those things, it's
fundamentally a general purpose computer. If you don't like the
default for anything you can change it, either by installing different
programs or by modifying the installed programs. And you don't even
need a cross-compile environment if you want to do that (I do tend to
use an external drive when compiling, though that's not strictly
necessary)

Most of the time mine is just a web client. Occasionally I use it to
play videos. Even more occasionally, I go in and modify mplayer to
add extra features.

Or to put it another way, it's the first laptop that was worth
spending personal funds on. It's all the computer I really need 90%
of the time, and it's small enough that I have it with me 90% of the
time.

 

[Guy Macon]

The Real Andy wrote:

Can the Eee run standard linux or windows executables with out
recompiling?

The original Linux-based Asus Eee runs standard linux
executables fine, no compiling required. Not that
compiling is all that difficult in Linux.

The newer Windows-XP-based Asus Eee runs standard
Windows executables, just like any other XP box.

If you are not a computer geek, what use does the
EeePC really have?

Runs all standard Linux/Windows apps, screen big enough
to get work done, keyboard big enough for touch typing,
much smaller than other Laptops, solid state storage
(no hard disk to get damaged by rough handling), fits
on a standard airline tray with the seat in front fully
reclined, allows me to plug into a a USB keyboard/mouse,
large screen monitor and Eee power adaptor at home and
at work, powerful enough to run all standard business
applications and most engineering applications (I still
use a high-powered desktop for 3D CAD). Costs $299.99
to $499.99, depending on what model you buy.

--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/>

 

On May 22, 2:46 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net>
wrote:

It would be, _if_ the battery runtime up to par. But it ain't.

The degree to which this is an issue really depends on your usage
pattern.

Myself, when away from home I tend to turn the thing on for 15-20
minutes max of checking things online.

If I'm going to be using it for hours, I'm somewhere comfortable
already, so I plug it in.

If I were a frequent flier, had regular long train trips that weren't
on a city subway, etc then I might be using it for longer periods on
battery, and the battery endurance might be an issue.

 

[Joerg]

cs_posting@hotmail.com wrote:

On May 22, 2:46 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net
wrote:

It would be, _if_ the battery runtime up to par. But it ain't.

The degree to which this is an issue really depends on your usage
pattern.

Myself, when away from home I tend to turn the thing on for 15-20
minutes max of checking things online.

I can't get any serious work done in that time frame. Such as creating a
50-page module spec or 10+ sheet schematic.

If I'm going to be using it for hours, I'm somewhere comfortable
already, so I plug it in.

On today's 103% booked out flights getting a seat with a power outlet is
like winning the lottery. Doesn't happen, usually.

If I were a frequent flier, had regular long train trips that weren't
on a city subway, etc then I might be using it for longer periods on
battery, and the battery endurance might be an issue.

Well, that's exactly what I and many others want to use a laptop for. A
10 hour flight across an ocean, a 5 hour train ride, etc. The old Compaq
did that yet none of the "modern" ones after it were able to. I guess
that's called progress.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.

 

[Andrew Smallshaw]

On 2008-05-22, cs_posting@hotmail.com <cs_posting@hotmail.com> wrote:

On May 22, 5:37 am, The Real Andy <thereala...@nospam.com> wrote:

But does not fit in a large pocket, which is the point of the Eee.
They're not in the same marketplace as a basic laptop - they are
ultraportable.

If I want portable I can buy a PDA for the same cash, if not cheaper.

And can your PDA run standard linux or windows executables without
recompiling?

Apples and oranges. I have a laptop for that kind of stuff but
still carry a Newton MP2000 with me on a daily basis. Small enough
to be pocketable and still big enough to be useful. The extended
battery life (30 hours) makes it truly portable in that you can
use it heavily all week on a single set of AAs, which are no trouble
to replace if you do happen to run low.

90% of the time the principal use is to makes notes. The ability
to sketch quick diagrams etc make the Newt much less distracting
in use than a regular PC. Standard office type stuff, email, telnet
and basic web browing are all perfectly doable too, although the
platform is showing its age a little now.

--
Andrew Smallshaw
andrews@sdf.lonestar.org