So, you wanted a cheap notebook?

[Don McKenzie]

I don't think a new UMPC gets much cheaper than this:
http://www.alibaba.com/sellinglead-gs/206540398/Sell_Super_Deal_UMPC_computer.html
MOQ 100, Linux, and 128Mb ram, but still very useful, yes?

Cheers Don...


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[Jim Granville]

Don McKenzie wrote:

I don't think a new UMPC gets much cheaper than this:
http://www.alibaba.com/sellinglead-gs/206540398/Sell_Super_Deal_UMPC_computer.html

MOQ 100, Linux, and 128Mb ram, but still very useful, yes?

Interesting price point - one guesses no fan needed ?
Let's see: No HDD? - Still, USB drives are cheap.
Microsoft probably does not like these

-jg


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Processor: XBurst 400 Mhz 32 bit
Operating System: Linux 2.4, include Abiword(Word),Gnumeric(Excel),
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Broadband interface: 10M/100M Ethernet
Network access: ADSLWiFiCDMAGPRS(available)
Network: USB IntelŽ Pro802.11b/g/Wireless
RAM: 128MB
Flash: 512MB NAND Flash(support 512MB, 1GB or higher)
Support SD card(up to 2GB)

 

[David L. Jones]

On May 13, 10:21 am, Don McKenzie <l...@mysig.com> wrote:

I don't think a new UMPC gets much cheaper than this:http://www.alibaba.com/sellinglead-gs/206540398/Sell_Super_Deal_UMPC_...
MOQ 100, Linux, and 128Mb ram, but still very useful, yes?

Yikes, that's cheap.
And how many recharges will the battery last before going tits-up I
wonder?

Dave.

 

On May 12, 8:21 pm, Don McKenzie <l...@mysig.com> wrote:

I don't think a new UMPC gets much cheaper than this:http://www.alibaba.com/sellinglead-gs/206540398/Sell_Super_Deal_UMPC_...
MOQ 100, Linux, and 128Mb ram, but still very useful, yes?

For the more risk-averse, the EeePC now has close to 6 months of
marketplace exposure under its belt,
and while twice the price, is substantially faster and with more
memory.

And yes, you actually can type on one normally after about a week of
ownership.

I would expect we'll be seeing many more machines in this size
category over the next year - now that the technology is there, a
functional subnotebook that's cheap enough not to worry too much about
just makes too much sense not to happen.

And yes, it works great with a USB-serial adapter for maintaining
equipment.

 

[larwe]

On May 13, 11:03 am, cs_post...@hotmail.com wrote:

On May 12, 8:21 pm, Don McKenzie <l...@mysig.com> wrote:

I don't think a new UMPC gets much cheaper than this:http://www.alibaba.com/sellinglead-gs/206540398/Sell_Super_Deal_UMPC_...
MOQ 100, Linux, and 128Mb ram, but still very useful, yes?

For the more risk-averse, the EeePC now has close to 6 months of
marketplace exposure under its belt,

What I find amusing is that the UMPC Don linked to is sold, retail,
with a brand name on it at EXACTLY THE SAME PRICE ($400) as the EEE
4G

 

[Guy Macon]

larwe wrote:

cs_post...@hotmail.com wrote:

Don McKenzie wrote:

I don't think a new UMPC gets much cheaper than this:http://www.alibaba.com/sellinglead-gs/206540398/Sell_Super_Deal_UMPC_...
MOQ 100, Linux, and 128Mb ram, but still very useful, yes?

For the more risk-averse, the EeePC now has close to 6 months of
marketplace exposure under its belt,

What I find amusing is that the UMPC Don linked to is sold, retail,
with a brand name on it at EXACTLY THE SAME PRICE ($400) as the EEE
4G

Only if by "amusing" you mean "not true."

I am looking at my Asus Eee right now and it doesn't have the same
mousepad, keyboard layout, indicator lights, hinge, or screen.

Also, the Asus Eee has a 900 MHz (underclocked to 630 MHz by asus)
Intel Celeron-M ULV 353, while the Wimbel has a 400 Mhz Ingenic
XBurst.

It looks to me that the Wimbel is smaller (judging by the relative
size of the 7" LCD).


--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/>

 

[Guy Macon]

Guy Macon wrote:

Only if by "amusing" you mean "not true."

I have to apologize. I had a total brain fart while writing
the above. The post I replied to clearly said "sold at the
same price as the Eee" and somehow I halucinated "Sold as the
EEE." D'oh! Sorry about that.

Note to self: next time, smoke the crack *after* posting...

--
Guy Macon
<http://www.guymacon.com/>

 

[larwe]

On May 13, 2:16 pm, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:

What I find amusing is that the UMPC Don linked to is sold, retail,
with a brand name on it at EXACTLY THE SAME PRICE ($400) as the EEE

I am looking at my Asus Eee right now and it doesn't have the same
mousepad, keyboard layout, indicator lights, hinge, or screen.

I did not say the Asus EEE is the UMPC to which Don linked. I said the
400MHz XBurst UMPC - same hardware - is sold, or at least offered, at
$400. It was mentioned in one of the "also with the same tag" links on
Engadget quite recently. It has a higher memory configuration but it's
the same machine.

 

[larwe]

On May 13, 2:16 pm, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:

What I find amusing is that the UMPC Don linked to is sold, retail,
with a brand name on it at EXACTLY THE SAME PRICE ($400) as the EEE

Only if by "amusing" you mean "not true."

.... and here is the exact link: <http://blog.laptopmag.com/3k-
razorbook-400-mini-notebook-pc-just-a-knock-off>

Buy 100pcs at $150 from alibaba, or 1pc at $399

 

On May 13, 2:43 pm, larwe <zwsdot...@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 13, 2:16 pm, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:

What I find amusing is that the UMPC Don linked to is sold, retail,
with a brand name on it at EXACTLY THE SAME PRICE ($400) as the EEE

Only if by "amusing" you mean "not true."

... and here is the exact link: <http://blog.laptopmag.com/3k-
razorbook-400-mini-notebook-pc-just-a-knock-off

Notice the comments on the end where someone speculates that it's an
ARM processor, and then another says its MIPS. At any rate,
apparently not an x86. Which is not the end of the road, but it is
somewhat nice that regular Debian binary packages will often run on
the EeePC, though customizing them is sometimes an improvement.

 

[larwe]

On May 13, 3:08 pm, Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com/> wrote:

Note to self: next time, smoke the crack *after* posting...

In the drug binge of life, some of us are the mirrors, some of us
are the razor blades...

 

[The Real Andy]

On Tue, 13 May 2008 08:51:45 -0700 (PDT), larwe <zwsdotcom@gmail.com>
wrote:

On May 13, 11:03 am, cs_post...@hotmail.com wrote:
On May 12, 8:21 pm, Don McKenzie <l...@mysig.com> wrote:

I don't think a new UMPC gets much cheaper than this:http://www.alibaba.com/sellinglead-gs/206540398/Sell_Super_Deal_UMPC_...
MOQ 100, Linux, and 128Mb ram, but still very useful, yes?

For the more risk-averse, the EeePC now has close to 6 months of
marketplace exposure under its belt,

What I find amusing is that the UMPC Don linked to is sold, retail,
with a brand name on it at EXACTLY THE SAME PRICE ($400) as the EEE
4G

I have seen laptops for sale recently that cost just AUD100 more than
the Eee. Acer with 2g celeron, 1g ram 80g HDD, vista home basic ->
$499 AU. Shits over the Eee.

 

[larwe]

On May 14, 5:59 am, The Real Andy <thereala...@nospam.com> wrote:

I have seen laptops for sale recently that cost just AUD100 more than
the Eee. Acer with 2g celeron, 1g ram 80g HDD, vista home basic -
$499 AU. Shits over the Eee.

But does not fit in a large pocket, which is the point of the Eee.
They're not in the same marketplace as a basic laptop - they are
ultraportable.

 

[rebel]

On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:22:29 -0700 (PDT), larwe <zwsdotcom@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 14, 5:59 am, The Real Andy <thereala...@nospam.com> wrote:

I have seen laptops for sale recently that cost just AUD100 more than
the Eee. Acer with 2g celeron, 1g ram 80g HDD, vista home basic -
$499 AU. Shits over the Eee.

But does not fit in a large pocket, which is the point of the Eee.
They're not in the same marketplace as a basic laptop - they are
ultraportable.

Is the follow-up model with the decent sized (active) screen area available yet?

 

[Don McKenzie]

rebel wrote:

On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:22:29 -0700 (PDT), larwe <zwsdotcom@gmail.com> wrote:

On May 14, 5:59 am, The Real Andy <thereala...@nospam.com> wrote:

I have seen laptops for sale recently that cost just AUD100 more than
the Eee. Acer with 2g celeron, 1g ram 80g HDD, vista home basic -
$499 AU. Shits over the Eee.
But does not fit in a large pocket, which is the point of the Eee.
They're not in the same marketplace as a basic laptop - they are
ultraportable.

Is the follow-up model with the decent sized (active) screen area available yet?

Yes, been available for some time:
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewforum.php?id=50

now that I have 3 of the smaller ones, and they suit my needs fine, I
don't see me upgrading.

Cheers Don...



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[Joerg]

larwe wrote:

On May 13, 11:03 am, cs_post...@hotmail.com wrote:
On May 12, 8:21 pm, Don McKenzie <l...@mysig.com> wrote:

I don't think a new UMPC gets much cheaper than this:http://www.alibaba.com/sellinglead-gs/206540398/Sell_Super_Deal_UMPC_...
MOQ 100, Linux, and 128Mb ram, but still very useful, yes?
For the more risk-averse, the EeePC now has close to 6 months of
marketplace exposure under its belt,

What I find amusing is that the UMPC Don linked to is sold, retail,
with a brand name on it at EXACTLY THE SAME PRICE ($400) as the EEE
4G

And for $399 you can often get a real laptop at Dell when they are on
sale. The battery lifetime of those micro laptops doesn't convince me
either because it still does not even come close to what Compaq
engineers achieved in the early 90's. Over 5hrs on ordinary old-tech
NiCd was not a problem back then. Real progress isn't always happening :-(

Anyhow, I believe the EeePC or whatever will only become a success if
they show up at Walmart at a decent price, decent meaning substantially
lower than the cheapest Dell laptop. Else people will just keep buying
Dell laptops.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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Use another domain or send PM.

 

[Joerg]

larwe wrote:

On May 15, 1:38 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net
wrote:

Anyhow, I believe the EeePC or whatever will only become a success if
they show up at Walmart at a decent price, decent meaning substantially

You talk about it like it's something that might happen - well, it
already has happened.

Well, not out here. The mobile computing platforms I see are 90%+ Dell,
then some Sony, Toshiba, IBM/Lenovo or the occasional ruggedized laptop
such as my Durabook (but those are very rare).

The Eee does not compete with budget laptops, it is in the
ultraportable niche. Its only real overlap with mainstream laptops is
with ultrasmall offerings like the MacBook Air, ThinkPad X series,
Sony ultra-small Vaio, etc. Those machines are typically in the >$1500
price bracket. Certainly you will not find one for under 2x the Eee's
price.

That high price is why they aren't more popular. Hopefully the Eee will
make a dent here but it would have to be available at local stores. And
the popular apps must run on it. For some people that would be stuff
like TurboTax, for me it's CAD.

Simply the large number of essentially identical competing products
coming on the market (keep reading engadget.com and you'll see a new
one announced every few weeks) indicates that this niche is already
something of a success.

I never had a doubt that ultra-portable has a market. Remember the
Contura Aero? It was a success but could have been a much bigger one if
marketed right. To me (and a lot of others) one key is battery runtime.
The usual 2-4hrs simply don't cut it. If they can't get there anymore
(the engineers in the 980's could ...) then the only alternative is to
use standard rechargeables and that would be AA.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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[larwe]

On May 15, 1:38 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net>
wrote:

Anyhow, I believe the EeePC or whatever will only become a success if
they show up at Walmart at a decent price, decent meaning substantially

You talk about it like it's something that might happen - well, it
already has happened.

The Eee does not compete with budget laptops, it is in the
ultraportable niche. Its only real overlap with mainstream laptops is
with ultrasmall offerings like the MacBook Air, ThinkPad X series,
Sony ultra-small Vaio, etc. Those machines are typically in the >$1500
price bracket. Certainly you will not find one for under 2x the Eee's
price.

Simply the large number of essentially identical competing products
coming on the market (keep reading engadget.com and you'll see a new
one announced every few weeks) indicates that this niche is already
something of a success.

 

[Joerg]

cs_posting@hotmail.com wrote:

On May 15, 3:53 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net
wrote:

That high price is why they aren't more popular. Hopefully the Eee will
make a dent here but it would have to be available at local stores. And
the popular apps must run on it. For some people that would be stuff
like TurboTax, for me it's CAD.

On a 7" screen you want to run CAD?

Sure, done that all the time, starting in 1989. Old Wang laptop, 6" or
so screen, sans backlight, IBM-XT resolution, whatever that was. While
riding trains, airplanes or while sitting in a hotel room I designed
rather large circuit boards for ultrasound machines on it. The trick is
to become very proficient with pan and zoom. Oh, and that thing did not
have a pointing device. Never needed one but the arrow keys were quite
worn when I retired it for a Compaq Contura.

That's not the kind of application this machine is intended for.

But it's needed for that. After the Compaq Aero was discontinued there
came a huge void.

Think of it as an ultraportable _terminal_ that happens to be able to
browse the web in a pinch, edit and compile code, read newsgroups,
etc.

Well, us HW guys need to run our CAD

In actuality, I use mine as my main machine outside of work hours.
But I do have a desktop available at home, I just rarely bother to
turn it on.

I used to do that but began using a desktop again. Much more oomph.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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Use another domain or send PM.

 

On May 15, 3:53 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net>
wrote:

That high price is why they aren't more popular. Hopefully the Eee will
make a dent here but it would have to be available at local stores. And
the popular apps must run on it. For some people that would be stuff
like TurboTax, for me it's CAD.

On a 7" screen you want to run CAD?

That's not the kind of application this machine is intended for.

Think of it as an ultraportable _terminal_ that happens to be able to
browse the web in a pinch, edit and compile code, read newsgroups,
etc.

In actuality, I use mine as my main machine outside of work hours.
But I do have a desktop available at home, I just rarely bother to
turn it on.