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Terry Given · Mar 17, 2005

John Fields wrote:

On 17 Mar 2005 01:50:57 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

Enough of this competitive brevity. While John Fields sholud be
congratulated for saying nothing - because he never seems to have
anything useful to say - twenty messages of congratulation seems to
represent rather too much of a good thing.

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

---
There was an old man from Nijmegen
whose rhetoric often went beggin'
for nice things to say;
instead he'd just bray
amidst all the rest of his squeggin'

Very good.

Cheers
Terry

Mar 17, 2005

John Fields wrote:

On 17 Mar 2005 01:50:57 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

Enough of this competitive brevity. While John Fields should be
congratulated for saying nothing - because he never seems to have
anything useful to say - twenty messages of congratulation seems to
represent rather too much of a good thing.

-----------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

---
There was an old man from Nijmegen
whose rhetoric often went beggin'
for nice things to say;
instead he'd just bray
amidst all the rest of his squeggin'

Might work in Germany - where they spell Nijmegen as Nimwegen, and
pronounce it that way, but Nijmegen doesn't rhyme with beggin' because
the last "e" in Nijmegen isn't reduced as it would be in English, so it
isn't the same as the reduced "i" in beggin' (which is a schwa).

Leave the bilingual limericks to John Woodgate, who knows enough about
language to get the structure right.

-------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Ron Hubbard · Mar 18, 2005

"Brad Albing" <itza.secret@none-of.yer-bidness> wrote in message
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Terry Given wrote:

John Fields wrote:

This is just a short message

ditto

yup

Ha!

Mar 18, 2005

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:56:38 +1300, Terry Given <my_name@ieee.org
wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On 17 Mar 2005 01:50:57 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

Enough of this competitive brevity. While John Fields sholud be
congratulated for saying nothing - because he never seems to have
anything useful to say - twenty messages of congratulation seems
to
represent rather too much of a good thing.

-----------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

---
There was an old man from Nijmegen
whose rhetoric often went beggin'
for nice things to say;
instead he'd just bray
amidst all the rest of his squeggin'

Very good.

Cheers
Terry

Please don't reply to Bill S., I get nauseous every time I see that
name... the resident EuroLoony ;-)

...Jim Thompson

This would be the resident demented Yank kettle called the resident
Euro-loony pot black. If Jim had retained a few more neurons, he be
able to remember that I maintain my Australian citizenship and merely
reside in Europe, and he'd realise that he was falsely blackening the
name of an entire sub-continent.

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

John Woodgate · Mar 18, 2005

I read in sci.electronics.design that bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote (in
<1111138392.922956.47750@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com&gt

about 'Short
message', on Fri, 18 Mar 2005:

This would be the resident demented Yank kettle called the resident
Euro-loony pot black. If Jim had retained a few more neurons, he be able
to remember that I maintain my Australian citizenship and merely reside
in Europe, and he'd realise that he was falsely blackening the name of
an entire sub-continent.

If you and Jim would both lay off the political duologue, you'd get
along better and the rest of us would be less bored by the name-calling.
In UK, we're going to get a belly-full of that in the run-up to the
election.

Mind you, the elderly Chinese community is looking forward to a General
Erection.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
There are two sides to every question, except
'What is a Moebius strip?'
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

Paul Burke · Mar 18, 2005

John Woodgate wrote:

If you and Jim would both lay off the political duologue, you'd get
along better and the rest of us would be less bored by the name-calling.
In UK, we're going to get a belly-full of that in the run-up to the
election.

There's not going to be an election here, is there? I haven't heard of
it. Well if there is, should I vote for that nice Mr. Blair, or charming
Mr. Howard? Or should it be the other guy, you know, Whatsisname? Or
should I just copy one of Genome's posts and write that on the voting slip?

Mind you, the elderly Chinese community is looking forward to a General
Erection.

And fine upstanding members of the community they are. A Japanese friend
took to English folk music while he was over here- he loved to sing the
song about the nightingale that "sings in the varrey berow".

Paul Burke

John Fields · Mar 18, 2005

On 17 Mar 2005 15:16:13 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On 17 Mar 2005 01:50:57 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

Enough of this competitive brevity. While John Fields should be
congratulated for saying nothing - because he never seems to have
anything useful to say - twenty messages of congratulation seems to
represent rather too much of a good thing.

-----------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

---
There was an old man from Nijmegen
whose rhetoric often went beggin'
for nice things to say;
instead he'd just bray
amidst all the rest of his squeggin'

Might work in Germany - where they spell Nijmegen as Nimwegen, and
pronounce it that way, but Nijmegen doesn't rhyme with beggin' because
the last "e" in Nijmegen isn't reduced as it would be in English, so it
isn't the same as the reduced "i" in beggin' (which is a schwa).

---
Yer a Nijit.

We (here in La Republica de Texas) speak mostly 'Murrican English, not
Nijmegian, and just because 'Nijmegen' is spelled the same here and in
Nijmegen doen't means that it's pronounciated the same here as it is
there, duh...

You really should check these linguistic matters over with your better
half before you post.

If you'd care to spell it phonetically I'd be happy to write you a
limerick which I'm sure you'd find amusing, if not downright
hilarious!
---

Leave the bilingual limericks to John Woodgate, who knows enough about
language to get the structure right.

---
And, unlike you, the logic.

--
John Fields

Mar 18, 2005

John Fields wrote:

On 17 Mar 2005 15:16:13 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On 17 Mar 2005 01:50:57 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

Enough of this competitive brevity. While John Fields should be
congratulated for saying nothing - because he never seems to have
anything useful to say - twenty messages of congratulation seems
to
represent rather too much of a good thing.

-----------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

---
There was an old man from Nijmegen
whose rhetoric often went beggin'
for nice things to say;
instead he'd just bray
amidst all the rest of his squeggin'

Might work in Germany - where they spell Nijmegen as Nimwegen, and
pronounce it that way, but Nijmegen doesn't rhyme with beggin'
because
the last "e" in Nijmegen isn't reduced as it would be in English, so
it
isn't the same as the reduced "i" in beggin' (which is a schwa).

---
Yer a Nijit.

Another one of your unsubstantiated (not to mention misspelled)
assertions.

We (here in La Republica de Texas) speak mostly 'Murrican English,
not
Nijmegian, and just because 'Nijmegen' is spelled the same here and
in
Nijmegen doen't means that it's pronounciated the same here as it is
there, duh...

The word "Nijmegen" divides into three syllables, so I doubt if it
forms part of the active vocabulary of any Texan.

The fact is that your limerick wouldn't scan if recited by anybody who
knows the word may not mean anything to you, but it looks comic to
anybody on the outside looking in.

You really should check these linguistic matters over with your
better
half before you post.

She's got better things to do with her time than confirming the
obvious.

If you'd care to spell it phonetically I'd be happy to write you a
limerick which I'm sure you'd find amusing, if not downright
hilarious!
---

Dream on. Even if I were to waste my wife's time for long enough to get
her to write out Nijmegen in IPA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet

I wouldn't be able to post it here.

Leave the bilingual limericks to John Woodgate, who knows enough
about
language to get the structure right.

---
And, unlike you, the logic.

You've yet to successfully impugn my logic, while yours is scarcely up
to TTL.

-------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

John Fields · Mar 18, 2005

On 18 Mar 2005 13:36:04 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On 17 Mar 2005 15:16:13 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On 17 Mar 2005 01:50:57 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

Enough of this competitive brevity. While John Fields should be
congratulated for saying nothing - because he never seems to have
anything useful to say - twenty messages of congratulation seems
to
represent rather too much of a good thing.

-----------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

---
There was an old man from Nijmegen
whose rhetoric often went beggin'
for nice things to say;
instead he'd just bray
amidst all the rest of his squeggin'

Might work in Germany - where they spell Nijmegen as Nimwegen, and
pronounce it that way, but Nijmegen doesn't rhyme with beggin'
because
the last "e" in Nijmegen isn't reduced as it would be in English, so
it
isn't the same as the reduced "i" in beggin' (which is a schwa).

---
Yer a Nijit.

Another one of your unsubstantiated (not to mention misspelled)
assertions.

---
Just because you fail to comprehend the substantiation doesn't mean it
isn't, hey? (not to mention that you mentined and claimed that you
weren't going to mention a mispeeling)
---

We (here in La Republica de Texas) speak mostly 'Murrican English,
not
Nijmegian, and just because 'Nijmegen' is spelled the same here and
in
Nijmegen doen't means that it's pronounciated the same here as it is
there, duh...

The word "Nijmegen" divides into three syllables, so I doubt if it
forms part of the active vocabulary of any Texan.

---
Such would seem to be the case when we're forced to communicate with
you and your bisyllabic ilk .
---

The fact is that your limerick wouldn't scan if recited by anybody who
knows the word may not mean anything to you, but it looks comic to
anybody on the outside looking in.

---
But to those of us who understand Merkin English pronuncication it's
comical from both points of view, so them what can't understand it
from the inside out are at a loss.
---

You really should check these linguistic matters over with your
better
half before you post.

She's got better things to do with her time than confirming the
obvious.

---
Yeah, I'm sure she does...
---

If you'd care to spell it phonetically I'd be happy to write you a
limerick which I'm sure you'd find amusing, if not downright
hilarious!
---

Dream on. Even if I were to waste my wife's time for long enough to get
her to write out Nijmegen in IPA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet

I wouldn't be able to post it here.

---
Hey, you were the one claiming I got it wrong, so if you want me to
believe you show me the right way.
---

Leave the bilingual limericks to John Woodgate, who knows enough
about
language to get the structure right.

---
And, unlike you, the logic.

You've yet to successfully impugn my logic, while yours is scarcely up
to TTL.

---
Yup. It's as hard to impugn what isn't there as it is to prove a
negative.

--
John Fields

Mar 19, 2005

John Fields wrote:

On 18 Mar 2005 13:36:04 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On 17 Mar 2005 15:16:13 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On 17 Mar 2005 01:50:57 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
---

<snip>

And, unlike you, the logic.

You've yet to successfully impugn my logic, while yours is scarcely
up
to TTL.

---
Yup. It's as hard to impugn what isn't there as it is to prove a
negative.

Your grasp of logic really isn't up to perceiving it in the statements
of unimpaired adults, so I can understand why you might think you were
trying to prove a negative.

I can't make up my mind whether I should characterise you as a dismal
example of the defects of the Texan education system or whether I've
got to invoke both fetal and adult alcohol syndromes to explain your
obvious retardation.

--------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

John Woodgate · Mar 19, 2005

I read in sci.electronics.design that bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote (in
<1111226865.580707.250660@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com&gt

about 'Short
message', on Sat, 19 Mar 2005:

Your grasp of logic really isn't up to perceiving it in the statements
of unimpaired adults, so I can understand why you might think you were
trying to prove a negative.

I can't make up my mind whether I should characterise you as a dismal
example of the defects of the Texan education system or whether I've got
to invoke both fetal and adult alcohol syndromes to explain your obvious
retardation.

All this about a sanguinary 'test message'?? Get a life!
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
There are two sides to every question, except
'What is a Moebius strip?'
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

John Fields · Mar 19, 2005

On 19 Mar 2005 02:07:45 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On 18 Mar 2005 13:36:04 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On 17 Mar 2005 15:16:13 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On 17 Mar 2005 01:50:57 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:
---

snip

And, unlike you, the logic.

You've yet to successfully impugn my logic, while yours is scarcely
up
to TTL.

---
Yup. It's as hard to impugn what isn't there as it is to prove a
negative.

Your grasp of logic really isn't up to perceiving it in the statements
of unimpaired adults,

---
But we're not discussing unimpaired adults, we're discussing you.

For example, look at your next sentence:
---

I can understand why you might think you were trying to prove a negative.

---
An unimpaired adult would have realized that I wasn't trying to prove
a negative, I was relating the difficulty of proving a negative to the
difficulty of impugning a nonexistent quantity. Even you should have
been able to understand that. Or so I thought...
---

I can't make up my mind whether I should characterise you as a dismal
example of the defects of the Texan education system

---
Well, you've said on more than one occasion that your wife took her
doctorate here, (kicking and screaming, as I understand it) at the
University Of Texas, so I guess you ought to be thankful for that
sheepskin since she's using it to support you now, no?
---

or whether I've got to invoke both fetal and adult alcohol syndromes to explain your
obvious retardation.

---
The "explanation" would be different if neither you nor your mother
weren't alcoholic?^)

Bye, Billy...

--
John Fields

Mar 20, 2005

I'm trying, but of the 17000 unemployed inhabitants of the Netherlands
in my age group, only about 250 (1.5%) managed to get a job in the last
year. I'm doing my best to beat the statistics, but the prospects
aren't pelasing.

-----------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

John Woodgate · Mar 20, 2005

I read in sci.electronics.design that bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote (in
<1111313667.008054.183780@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com&gt

about 'Short
message', on Sun, 20 Mar 2005:

I'm trying,

Some will agree with you. (;-)

but of the 17000 unemployed inhabitants of the Netherlands
in my age group, only about 250 (1.5%) managed to get a job in the last
year. I'm doing my best to beat the statistics, but the prospects aren't
pelasing.

Presumably you can't conveniently try another country?
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
There are two sides to every question, except
'What is a Moebius strip?'
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

Mar 20, 2005

Not really - my wife has an excellent job here, and while Germany is
very close, learning Dutch wrecked my capacity to produce spoken
German.

In a bit over five years we'll probably be back in Australia, when
things should pick up, but at the moment the best option I've been able
to come up with is to study computer science at the local university.
Of course it turned out that I had to prove I that I could communicate
in Dutch by sitting and passing the official exam, which I should have
done back in 1997, and finally got around to sitting a fortnight ago.
I'm happy with my performance on the tests for reading, listening to,
and speaking Dutch but my written Dutch always seems to contain about
one error per sentence so I can't be confident of passing that
particular section - none of my employers has ever wanted me to write
Dutch rather than English, so I've never done enough practice to get
the last of the bus out of my grammar.

I could have started the course last year as a "contract" student
without passing the language test, but the course fees would have been
four times higher.

--------------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Jim Thompson · Mar 20, 2005

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:27:07 +0000, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote (in
1111313667.008054.183780@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com&gt about 'Short
message', on Sun, 20 Mar 2005:

I'm trying,

Some will agree with you. (;-)

but of the 17000 unemployed inhabitants of the Netherlands
in my age group, only about 250 (1.5%) managed to get a job in the last
year. I'm doing my best to beat the statistics, but the prospects aren't
pelasing.

Presumably you can't conveniently try another country?

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

John Fields · Mar 20, 2005

On 20 Mar 2005 02:14:27 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

I'm trying, but of the 17000 unemployed inhabitants of the Netherlands
in my age group, only about 250 (1.5%) managed to get a job in the last
year. I'm doing my best to beat the statistics, but the prospects
aren't pelasing.

---
Why not try setting up a consultancy?

Seriously, Bill, with your qualifications and the age bias that seems
to be in place there, ISTM that might be one way to get out of the
doldrums, no?

--
John Fields

Jim Thompson · Mar 20, 2005

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:14:41 -0600, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On 20 Mar 2005 02:14:27 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

I'm trying, but of the 17000 unemployed inhabitants of the Netherlands
in my age group, only about 250 (1.5%) managed to get a job in the last
year. I'm doing my best to beat the statistics, but the prospects
aren't pelasing.

---
Why not try setting up a consultancy?

Seriously, Bill, with your qualifications and the age bias that seems
to be in place there, ISTM that might be one way to get out of the
doldrums, no?

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Clarence_A · Mar 20, 2005

"John Woodgate" wrote

bill.sloman@ieee.org

I'm trying,

Some will agree with you. (;-)

I sure agree! 'bout the only thing I do agree with Bill on.

but of the 17000 unemployed inhabitants of the
Netherlands in my age group, only about 250
1.5%) managed to get a job in the last year.
I'm doing my best to beat the statistics,
but the prospects aren't pelasing. <<<SP

Presumably you can't conveniently try another country?

It would have to be a country with a more generous welfare
payment. There aren't many of those, and they're full!

Fred Bloggs · Mar 20, 2005

Clarence_A wrote:

It would have to be a country with a more generous welfare
payment.

More generous than the one you're receiving now?

There aren't many of those, and they're full!

I'm sure that is one subject you /do/ know something about.

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