Serious Question for Leftists

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 08:46:29 -0500, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov>
wrote:

Silly Rabbit <5@trix.com> wrote in news:jvvfen$5h4$1@speranza.aioe.org:

On 08/08/2012 03:39 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:

When the votes were recounted for the umpteenth time, Bush would have
won anyways.

Not according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Flo
rida,_2000

It appears more likely that Gore, and not Bush, would have won if the
U.S. Supreme Court hadn't halted recount efforts.


even the liberal Florida newspapers now admit that Bush legitimately won
the 2000 election.

Wiki is run by leftists. and anyone can edit a Wiki article.

Obama will handily "win" this next election, between the dead, felons
and illegals voting, how can he not?

Then China will cut off our credit.

Obama will print money, depression will result.

Obama will round up Catholics, just as Hitler blamed the Jews.

Then we will have civil war, and killing liberals will be "legal".

Bring it on ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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[Bill Sloman]

On Aug 9, 3:46 pm, Jim Yanik <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote:

Silly Rabbit <5...@trix.com> wrote innews:jvvfen$5h4$1@speranza.aioe.org:

On 08/08/2012 03:39 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:

When the votes were recounted for the umpteenth time, Bush would have
won anyways.

Not according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Flo
rida,_2000

It appears more likely that Gore, and not Bush, would have won if the
U.S. Supreme Court hadn't halted recount efforts.

even the liberal Florida newspapers now admit that Bush legitimately won
the 2000 election.

"Liberal Florida newspapers" sounds like an oxymoron.
In any event, they are wrong - Jeb Bush stole it for Dubbya.

Wiki is run by leftists. and anyone can edit a Wiki article.

Pretty much everybody is a leftist from Jim Yanik's radical right
point of view - few people share his extreme right-wing delusions, and
it worries him that so few other people know the truth about the
world.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Aug 9, 5:10 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

hamilton wrote:

On 8/9/2012 7:42 AM, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:

If it weren't for the Tea Party this country would be lost already.

I can't say about your area, but here in Colorado the Teabaggers are the
anarchists who never filled taxes and wanted to abolish the IRS.

Today they are saving the country.

OK, I am not happy with the IRS either, but how did a bunch of hooligans
become Americas savior ??

   The 'bunch of hooligans' is OWS.  They can't bath, let alone save
America.

Remarkable - the smell from the unwashed Occupy Wall Street mob is
penetrating enough to be smelled in Florida, by a guy who bulk-buys
his incontinence underwear?

Sadly, Michael A Terrell is the kind of right-wing nitwit who hasn't
got enough sense to realise that quite a lot right-wing propaganda is
amateurish and depressingly implausible - it sells well to right-wing
nitwits, who aren't into critical thinking, but it does make them look
ridiculous when they expose their gullibility to informed criticism.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Aug 9, 4:44 pm, hamilton <hamil...@nothere.com> wrote:

On 8/9/2012 7:42 AM, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:



If it weren't for the Tea Party this country would be lost already.

I can't say about your area, but here in Colorado the Teabaggers are the
anarchists who never filled taxes and wanted to abolish the IRS.

Today they are saving the country.

OK, I am not happy with the IRS either, but how did a bunch of hooligans
become America's savior ??

Check out Karl Roves' skills at persuading people that black is white.
The Koch brother's money pays for a lot of that kind of persuasion.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Aug 9, 3:42 pm, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Aug 8, 6:39 pm, spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 8, 5:22 am, "Lawrance A. Schneider" <llaassllaa...@gmail.com
wrote:

By far and away the most egregious was the decision to appoint President
George Bush.  The Constitution clearly makes elections a state issue.
The Supreme Court ignored the Constitution and repeatedly interfered in
the election process.  Clearly showing their right wing bias and
willingness to ignore both "Stare decisis" and the Constitution.

When the newspaper chains (Knight-Ridder was one) recounted the votes
the way Gore wanted, Bush won Florida anyway. (Although Gore still won
the popular vote across the country.)

The second most extreme example is the "Citizens United" decision.  As
the standard joke goes: I'll believe a corporation is a person when I
see Texas execute one.  Again, the ignoreing both "stare decisis" and
the Constitution.

Judicial overreach. The right-wingers took a decision applicable to a
closely-held corporation, where the opinions of the corporation and
the shareholders were one, and applied it to giant corporations with
hundreds of thousands -- if not millions -- of shareholders, like IBM
and GM.

The first decision gave us an incompetent who started one war and failed
to finish it; though the military knew where to find the rest of the
Taliban and Mr. Bin Laden, he let the VP talk him out of finishing the
job.  He then proceeded to start a totally useless conflict costing more
than a trillion (not paid for) dollars and incurring two trillion
dollars in VA benefits.

When the votes were recounted for the umpteenth time, Bush would have
won anyways. And we would have enjoyed several months of being led by
President Denny Hastert. (third in the line of succession). Because
Clinton was limited to two terms by the Constitution. (Could Gore have
been named acting President during the interim? Interesting question.)

Florida wasn't obeying its own election laws, as they allowed Gore to
file protest long after their own deadline.

The illegal practices go back rather further - Jeb Bush spent a lot of
money purging the Florida electoral rolls of "suspected felons" (most
of whom weren't felons, and most of them Democrat voters). This was a
fraudulent abuse of power, and it's depressing, but scarcely
surprising, that he wasn't charged and imprisoned for it.

Gore couldn't protest in a timely manner because he was busy trying to
bias the results, enforcing recounts only in districts he thought
helpful, while suppressing non-helpful districts.

Perhaps. US elections wouldn't rate a honestly administered in most
civilised countries, and politicians work within the mechanisms
availabel.

None of it mattered anyhow.  In contested cases the decision is made
constitutionally in U.S. House of Representatives.  They were
Republicans.  Who do you think *they* would've chosen?

They would - of course - have based their decision of truth and logic,
just like Republicans always do ...

The second gave us the Tea Baggers.  They are paid for by the Koch
brothers and have destroyed civil discourse between persons of different
views.

What nonsense.  This from a President who accuses doctors of
unnecessarily cutting off feet, for the money.

When did Obama claim that the Koch brothers had bought and paid for
the tEa Party movement? And when did he claim that doctor amputated
feet unnecessarily, for the operating fee involved?

Cite your sources - it's always entertaining to see how you manage to
misinterpret perfectly respectable comments to fit your silly ideas.

The Teabaggers were a spontaneous movement, although surely the Kochs
were glad to see them emerge. Karl Denninger and his ilk are no more
destructive of civil discourse than the Occupy movement.

At bottom, Obama and his democrats want to run people's lives down to
the minutest detail, to impose their own morals and dictates--ones
which they themselves don't follow--on an unwilling populace.  Free
people don't like that.

Twaddle. They love the war on drugs which is exactly that kind of
interference in people's choice of recreational substances.

You get excited about Obama closing down a loop-hole that had allowed
Catholic organisation to get their health insurance cheap, and
suddenly he's trying "to run people's lives down to the minutest
detail" which is one more bizarre misinterpretation of what's going
on.

And, their dictates are idiotic, such as all this stimulus nonsense
they keep insisting on long after its total, complete, and abject
failure has been abundantly demonstrated.

"Failure"? The immediate aftermath of the sub-prime mortgage crisis
was 1.5% decline in GDP over a single quarter - which if sustained, as
it was from 1929 to 1933, would have produced a re-run of the Great
Depression. The Keynesian stimulus that was applied at the time
prevented any further decline in GDP and in fact managed to generate
some growth.

Granting the damage done to the US economy - and, at second hand - to
the economy of the rest of world, by the bursting of the US house
price bubble, blown up by a bunch of bottom-feeding idiots in the US
banking industry, who fed the bubble by making ninja loans to people
who were never going to pay them back, just preventing a re-run of the
Great Depression was a significant achievement.

If the Obama administration had been silly enough to listen to James
Arthur's moronic economic advice, you'd have had a second Great
Depression of spectacular proportions.

Last year they spent $3.6T on $2.3T revenues.  That's $1.57 in
spending for every dollar taken in.  And, they want to spend more.

Correctly.

If it weren't for the Tea Party this country would be lost already.

The US has lost it, and the Occupy movement has put it's finger on the
problem. The Tea Baggers are just one more depressing symptom of
what's wrong with the USA, where the rich don't hesitate to exploit
every mechanism that lets them get richer at the expense of everybody
else.

So Mitt Romney's running for president rather than sitting in jail for
ripping off widows and orphans.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

--
Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

hamilton wrote:

On 8/9/2012 9:10 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

hamilton wrote:

On 8/9/2012 7:42 AM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

If it weren't for the Tea Party this country would be lost already.

I can't say about your area, but here in Colorado the Teabaggers are the
anarchists who never filled taxes and wanted to abolish the IRS.

Today they are saving the country.

OK, I am not happy with the IRS either, but how did a bunch of hooligans
become Americas savior ??


The 'bunch of hooligans' is OWS. They can't bath, let alone save
America.


So, its easier to change the subject then it is to answer a simple
question ?

What were the Teabaggers like in your area, before they became Americas
savior ?

Did you even know they existed before they hit the world stage ??

I've never met a teabagger. I'm not gay, and I don't hang out in
their haunts.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 18:53:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

hamilton wrote:

On 8/9/2012 9:10 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

hamilton wrote:

On 8/9/2012 7:42 AM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

If it weren't for the Tea Party this country would be lost already.

I can't say about your area, but here in Colorado the Teabaggers are the
anarchists who never filled taxes and wanted to abolish the IRS.

Today they are saving the country.

OK, I am not happy with the IRS either, but how did a bunch of hooligans
become Americas savior ??


The 'bunch of hooligans' is OWS. They can't bath, let alone save
America.


So, its easier to change the subject then it is to answer a simple
question ?

What were the Teabaggers like in your area, before they became Americas
savior ?

Did you even know they existed before they hit the world stage ??


I've never met a teabagger. I'm not gay, and I don't hang out in
their haunts.

"Teabaggers" is a rude play on "tea party", posted by people who will
not survive the depression.

...Jim Thompson
--
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Silly Rabbit]

On 08/08/2012 11:00 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:

On Aug 8, 9:48 pm, Silly Rabbit <5...@trix.com> wrote:
On 08/08/2012 03:39 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:



When the votes were recounted for the umpteenth time, Bush would have
won anyways.

Not according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_F...

It appears more likely that Gore, and not Bush, would have won if the U.S. Supreme
Court hadn't halted recount efforts.

Your wikipedia cites the Knight-Ridder study I mentioned. By the
"intent of the voter" standard urged by Gore, Bush wins Florida. Only
by the standard Gore rejected -- a complete clean punch through the
ballot -- does Gore win:

Disregard what Gore requested at the time, because The Florida judge overseeing the
recount also intended to look at the overvote ballots, as well as the undervote that
Gore asked for.

Lenient standard. Any alteration in a chad, ranging from a dimple
to a full punch, counts as a vote. By this standard, Bush won by 1,665
votes.
Palm Beach standard. A dimple is counted as a vote if other races
on the same ballot show dimples as well. By this standard, Bush won by
884 votes.
Two-corner standard. A chad with two or more corners removed is
counted as a vote. This is the most common standard in use. By this
standard, Bush won by 363 votes.
Strict standard. Only a fully removed chad counts as a vote. By
this standard, Gore won by 3 votes.

Those standards were relevant only to some "recounts conducted by various United
States news media organizations."

But look at:
Review of all ballots statewide (never undertaken)
• Standard as set by each county canvassing board during their survey Gore by 171
• Fully punched chad and limited marks on optical ballots Gore by 115
• Any dimples or optical mark Gore by 107
• One corner of chad detached or optical mark Gore by 60
Gore wins by any standard.

 

[hamilton]

On 8/9/2012 4:53 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

hamilton wrote:

On 8/9/2012 9:10 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

hamilton wrote:

On 8/9/2012 7:42 AM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

If it weren't for the Tea Party this country would be lost already.

I can't say about your area, but here in Colorado the Teabaggers are the
anarchists who never filled taxes and wanted to abolish the IRS.

Today they are saving the country.

OK, I am not happy with the IRS either, but how did a bunch of hooligans
become Americas savior ??


The 'bunch of hooligans' is OWS. They can't bath, let alone save
America.


So, its easier to change the subject then it is to answer a simple
question ?

What were the Teabaggers like in your area, before they became Americas
savior ?

Did you even know they existed before they hit the world stage ??


I've never met a teabagger. I'm not gay, and I don't hang out in
their haunts.

So, you don't know the history of the TeaBeggers !

But, it was easy to blast the OWS.

OK, I get it now.

h

 

[Silly Rabbit]

On 08/09/2012 06:46 AM, Jim Yanik wrote:

Silly Rabbit <5@trix.com> wrote in news:jvvfen$5h4$1@speranza.aioe.org:

On 08/08/2012 03:39 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:

When the votes were recounted for the umpteenth time, Bush would have
won anyways.

Not according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Flo
rida,_2000

It appears more likely that Gore, and not Bush, would have won if the
U.S. Supreme Court hadn't halted recount efforts.

even the liberal Florida newspapers now admit that Bush legitimately won
the 2000 election.

And even conservative Fox News can admit something.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/04/08/brain-scans-lean-left-right/

Wiki is run by leftists. and anyone can edit a Wiki article.

And even rightwingers can add to the articles.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:12:14 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888
<spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 9, 4:15 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 18:53:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"









mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:

hamilton wrote:

On 8/9/2012 9:10 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

hamilton wrote:

On 8/9/2012 7:42 AM, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:

If it weren't for the Tea Party this country would be lost already.

I can't say about your area, but here in Colorado the Teabaggers are the
anarchists who never filled taxes and wanted to abolish the IRS.

Today they are saving the country.

OK, I am not happy with the IRS either, but how did a bunch of hooligans
become Americas savior ??

    The 'bunch of hooligans' is OWS.  They can't bath, let alone save
America.

So, its easier to change the subject then it is to answer a simple
question ?

What were the Teabaggers like in your area, before they became Americas
savior ?

Did you even know they existed before they hit the world stage ??

  I've never met a teabagger.  I'm not gay, and I don't hang out in
their haunts.

"Teabaggers" is a rude play on "tea party", posted by people who will
not survive the depression.


The budding Tea Party Movement embraced the teabag, soon after Obama
was inaugurated. There was a push, forwarded far and wide over the
internet, to mail a teabag "to Washington," whether to the White House
or one's Congressman or Senator, in time for Tax Day. At the same time
I saw many photos of supposed Tea Party members who had stapled tea
bags to their straw hats by the little Lipton's tags.

So the Tea Partiers themselves started the tea bag meme.

Leftists, aka the fairies amongst us, have a different definition of
tea bagger.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
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| Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

On Aug 9, 10:44 am, hamilton <hamil...@nothere.com> wrote:

On 8/9/2012 7:42 AM, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:



If it weren't for the Tea Party this country would be lost already.

I can't say about your area, but here in Colorado the Teabaggers are the
anarchists who never filled taxes and wanted to abolish the IRS.

Today they are saving the country.

OK, I am not happy with the IRS either, but how did a bunch of hooligans
become Americas savior ??

Perhaps you should examine your premises.

Hooligan: n. a ruffian; hoodlum
Hoodlum: n. 1. a gangster or thug; 2. a wild and destructive youth.

Have you a list of Tea Party assaults, vandalisms, and other such in
Colorado? Or anywhere,
for that matter?

The list for OWS--a far smaller group with a much shorter history--is
long and distinguished.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[spamtrap1888]

On Aug 9, 4:15 pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 18:53:43 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"









mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:

hamilton wrote:

On 8/9/2012 9:10 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

hamilton wrote:

On 8/9/2012 7:42 AM, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:

If it weren't for the Tea Party this country would be lost already..

I can't say about your area, but here in Colorado the Teabaggers are the
anarchists who never filled taxes and wanted to abolish the IRS.

Today they are saving the country.

OK, I am not happy with the IRS either, but how did a bunch of hooligans
become Americas savior ??

    The 'bunch of hooligans' is OWS.  They can't bath, let alone save
America.

So, its easier to change the subject then it is to answer a simple
question ?

What were the Teabaggers like in your area, before they became Americas
savior ?

Did you even know they existed before they hit the world stage ??

  I've never met a teabagger.  I'm not gay, and I don't hang out in
their haunts.

"Teabaggers" is a rude play on "tea party", posted by people who will
not survive the depression.

The budding Tea Party Movement embraced the teabag, soon after Obama
was inaugurated. There was a push, forwarded far and wide over the
internet, to mail a teabag "to Washington," whether to the White House
or one's Congressman or Senator, in time for Tax Day. At the same time
I saw many photos of supposed Tea Party members who had stapled tea
bags to their straw hats by the little Lipton's tags.

So the Tea Partiers themselves started the tea bag meme.

 

[spamtrap1888]

On Aug 9, 4:17 pm, Silly Rabbit <5...@trix.com> wrote:

On 08/08/2012 11:00 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:









On Aug 8, 9:48 pm, Silly Rabbit <5...@trix.com> wrote:
On 08/08/2012 03:39 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:

When the votes were recounted for the umpteenth time, Bush would have
won anyways.

Not according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_F....

It appears more likely that Gore, and not Bush, would have won if the U.S. Supreme
Court hadn't halted recount efforts.

Your wikipedia cites the Knight-Ridder study I mentioned. By the
"intent of the voter" standard urged by Gore, Bush wins Florida. Only
by the standard Gore rejected -- a complete clean punch through the
ballot -- does Gore win:

Disregard what Gore requested at the time, because The Florida judge overseeing the
recount also intended to look at the overvote ballots, as well as the undervote that
Gore asked for.

     Lenient standard. Any alteration in a chad, ranging from a dimple
to a full punch, counts as a vote. By this standard, Bush won by 1,665
votes.
     Palm Beach standard. A dimple is counted as a vote if other races
on the same ballot show dimples as well. By this standard, Bush won by
884 votes.
     Two-corner standard. A chad with two or more corners removed is
counted as a vote. This is the most common standard in use. By this
standard, Bush won by 363 votes.
     Strict standard. Only a fully removed chad counts as a vote. By
this standard, Gore won by 3 votes.

Those standards were relevant only to some "recounts conducted by various United
States news media organizations."

But look at:
Review of all ballots statewide (never undertaken)

This was taken by another US news media organization, the Washington
Post (actually the National Opinion Research Center under contract to
the WaPo.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12623-2001Nov11_4.html

Nobody requested this, and in fact there was no mechanism to request a
statewide recount, only county by county. But, per the WaPo report,
had this been possible, and had both overvotes (as Bush had wanted)
and undervotes (as Gore had wanted), then there were some scenarios
under which Gore would have won:

•  Standard as set by each county canvassing board during their survey        Gore by 171
•  Fully punched chad and limited marks on optical ballots  Gore by 115
•  Any dimples or optical mark        Gore by 107
•  One corner of chad detached or optical mark        Gore by 60

Gore wins by any standard.

Uh, no. Per the WaPo article, Bush wins under all the likely
scenarios. Only under those tortured scenarios mentioned at the end of
the article would Gore have won.

 

[spamtrap1888]

On Aug 9, 4:17 pm, Silly Rabbit <5...@trix.com> wrote:

Disregard what Gore requested at the time, because The Florida judge overseeing the
recount also intended to look at the overvote ballots, as well as the undervote that
Gore asked for.

I don't know where this idea comes from.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

hamilton wrote:

OK, I get it now.

No, you don't but you'll keep blowing smoke.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jim Thompson wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

I've never met a teabagger. I'm not gay, and I don't hang out in
their haunts.

"Teabaggers" is a rude play on "tea party", posted by people who will
not survive the depression.

Not all types of depression can be cured.

Yes, I've heard the left's crap but like I said, I don't hang around
with them. They are fixated on insults, and constantly refer to gay
sex. May they all die slow, painful deaths from STDs, if they don't
learn to tell the truth. It's apparent that some of them have already
gone insane.

 

[Silly Rabbit]

On 08/09/2012 06:53 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:

On Aug 9, 4:17 pm, Silly Rabbit <5...@trix.com> wrote:

Disregard what Gore requested at the time, because The Florida judge overseeing the
recount also intended to look at the overvote ballots, as well as the undervote that
Gore asked for.

I don't know where this idea comes from.

"However, a Gore win was impossible without a recount of overvotes, which he did not
request. But one could argue that the recount of overvotes should have happened
nonetheless, because faxes discovered after the media recount indicated that the
judge overseeing the recount effort intended to have the overvotes counted. These
were faxes between Judge Terry Lewis and the canvassing* boards throughout the state."
...
"As stated by Lance DeHaven Smith in his interview with Research in Review at Florida
State University,: "...Everybody had thought that the chads were where all the bad
ballots were, but it turned out that the ones that were the most decisive were
write-in ballots where people would check Gore and write Gore in, and the machine
kicked those out. There were 175,000 votes overall that were so-called “spoiled
ballots.” About two-thirds of the spoiled ballots were over-votes; many or most of
them would have been write-in over-votes, where people had punched and written in a
candidate’s name. And nobody looked at this, not even the Florida Supreme Court in
the last decision it made requiring a statewide recount. Nobody had thought about it
except Judge Terry Lewis, who was overseeing the statewide recount when it was halted
by the U.S. Supreme Court."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Florida,_2000

 

[hamilton]

On 8/9/2012 5:15 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:

"Teabaggers" is a rude play on "tea party"

Sorry Jim,

Tea BAGGER comes from Carpet Bagger[1].

The Tea Party has been around for a long time.

It has been trying to suppress the actions of the IRS for years with
varying degrees of success.

The Tea Bagger comes from how they TBs will kill off taxes instead of
the IRS.

Also for the opportunism and exploitation to get people to
think as they do.

Ask your IRS guy next time he comes to visit.

The IRS does not like the TeaBaggers.

hamilton


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpetbagger

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Aug 10, 3:04 am, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Aug 9, 10:44 am, hamilton <hamil...@nothere.com> wrote:

On 8/9/2012 7:42 AM, dagmargoodb...@yahoo.com wrote:

If it weren't for the Tea Party this country would be lost already.

I can't say about your area, but here in Colorado the Teabaggers are the
anarchists who never filled taxes and wanted to abolish the IRS.

Today they are saving the country.

OK, I am not happy with the IRS either, but how did a bunch of hooligans
become Americas savior ??

Perhaps you should examine your premises.

Hooligan: n. a ruffian; hoodlum
Hoodlum: n. 1. a gangster or thug; 2. a wild and destructive youth.

Have you a list of Tea Party assaults, vandalisms, and other such in
Colorado? Or anywhere,
for that matter?

Congress. They regularly sabotaged any legislation that looked as if
it might help the economy in the run up to the current presidential
election. They always had ideological justifications for their
wrecking behaviour, and your example makes it clear that more or less
intelligent people can have vary silly ideas about economic, but they
were very convenient silly ideas.

The list for OWS--a far smaller group with a much shorter history--is
long and distinguished.

But you can't actually quote any examples. My understanding is that a
lot of their offences take the form of assaulting a police officer's
night stick by breaking it with their heads.

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen