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Cursitor Doom

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Gentlemen,

Has anyone got both the first *and* second editions of this book? Were
all the errors in the first edition fixed in the second? Is there any
new content in the second which would make it worth the bother to
order?

CD
 
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Jeff Liebermann

Guest
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:54:14 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com>
wrote:

Has anyone got both the first *and* second editions of this book? Were
all the errors in the first edition fixed in the second? Is there any
new content in the second which would make it worth the bother to
order?
I don\'t know. The first and 2nd edition are 23 and 13 years old
respectively. Methinks you might do better with something more recent
(unless you\'re doing antique radios).

Free PDF download:

Microwave and RF Design (3rd Edition)
<https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/handle/1840.20/36776>
Fundamentals of Microwave and RF Design
Microwave and RF Design: Radio Systems, Volume 1
Microwave and RF Design: Transmission Lines, Volume 2
Microwave and RF Design: Networks, Volume 3
Microwave and RF Design: Modules, Volume 4
Microwave and RF Design: Amplifiers and Oscillators, Volume 5

There are questions at the end of each chapter to see if you\'ve been
paying attention. I haven\'t read every book cover to cover, but have
been selectively picking out bits and pieces as I need them. If the
books are too advanced for you, kindly disclose what problem you\'re
trying to solve and I\'ll try to find something more appropriate.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
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Phil Hobbs

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On 11/21/20 7:48 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:54:14 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com
wrote:

Has anyone got both the first *and* second editions of this book? Were
all the errors in the first edition fixed in the second? Is there any
new content in the second which would make it worth the bother to
order?

I don\'t know. The first and 2nd edition are 23 and 13 years old
respectively. Methinks you might do better with something more recent
(unless you\'re doing antique radios).
Well, Smith charts are pretty old too. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
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Steve Wilson

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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

Free PDF download:

Microwave and RF Design (3rd Edition)
https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/handle/1840.20/36776
Fundamentals of Microwave and RF Design
Microwave and RF Design: Radio Systems, Volume 1
Microwave and RF Design: Transmission Lines, Volume 2
Microwave and RF Design: Networks, Volume 3
Microwave and RF Design: Modules, Volume 4
Microwave and RF Design: Amplifiers and Oscillators, Volume 5
I click on the links but I doesn\'t get no downloads.

The Radiotron Designers Handbook (4th edition) is an excellent starter. I
first mentioned it here in 2006. It is available at:

http://www.tubebooks.org/books/rdh4.pdf

The Art of Electronics is another popular book. Available on Amazon.

LTspice is an extremely valuable tool. Most people run the updated
version, I stayed on IV. Available at:

\"https://www.analog.com/en/design-center/design-tools-and-
calculators/ltspice-simulator.html\"

There are many useful tutorials on the web.

The Yahoo LTspice group has been active for many years. It was
transferred to groups.io when Yahoo decided to terminate the forums.

Helmut has run the group since inception. He is a very experienced
designer for LTspice models. You will find it very hard to find flaws in
his work.

In addition, Andy, analogspiceman and Bordodynov are also very skilled
experts in LTspice. You can learn a great deal from their work.

You can find their posts in groups.io:

https://groups.io/g/LTspice/



--
Science teaches us to trust. - sw
 
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Phil Hobbs

Guest
On 11/21/20 8:28 PM, Steve Wilson wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

Free PDF download:

Microwave and RF Design (3rd Edition)
https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/handle/1840.20/36776
Fundamentals of Microwave and RF Design
Microwave and RF Design: Radio Systems, Volume 1
Microwave and RF Design: Transmission Lines, Volume 2
Microwave and RF Design: Networks, Volume 3
Microwave and RF Design: Modules, Volume 4
Microwave and RF Design: Amplifiers and Oscillators, Volume 5

I click on the links but I doesn\'t get no downloads.

The Radiotron Designers Handbook (4th edition) is an excellent starter. I
first mentioned it here in 2006. It is available at:

http://www.tubebooks.org/books/rdh4.pdf

The Art of Electronics is another popular book. Available on Amazon.

LTspice is an extremely valuable tool. Most people run the updated
version, I stayed on IV. Available at:

\"https://www.analog.com/en/design-center/design-tools-and-
calculators/ltspice-simulator.html\"

There are many useful tutorials on the web.

The Yahoo LTspice group has been active for many years. It was
transferred to groups.io when Yahoo decided to terminate the forums.

Helmut has run the group since inception. He is a very experienced
designer for LTspice models.
Was, unfortunately. He died last June. :(

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
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Steve Wilson

Guest
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 11/21/20 8:28 PM, Steve Wilson wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

Free PDF download:

Microwave and RF Design (3rd Edition)
https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/handle/1840.20/36776
Fundamentals of Microwave and RF Design
Microwave and RF Design: Radio Systems, Volume 1
Microwave and RF Design: Transmission Lines, Volume 2
Microwave and RF Design: Networks, Volume 3
Microwave and RF Design: Modules, Volume 4
Microwave and RF Design: Amplifiers and Oscillators, Volume 5

I click on the links but I doesn\'t get no downloads.

The Radiotron Designers Handbook (4th edition) is an excellent
starter. I first mentioned it here in 2006. It is available at:

http://www.tubebooks.org/books/rdh4.pdf

The Art of Electronics is another popular book. Available on Amazon.

LTspice is an extremely valuable tool. Most people run the updated
version, I stayed on IV. Available at:

\"https://www.analog.com/en/design-center/design-tools-and-
calculators/ltspice-simulator.html\"

There are many useful tutorials on the web.

The Yahoo LTspice group has been active for many years. It was
transferred to groups.io when Yahoo decided to terminate the forums.

Helmut has run the group since inception. He is a very experienced
designer for LTspice models.

Was, unfortunately. He died last June. :(
That\'s why he has been so quiet lately.

What about winfield hill? Haven\'t heard from him either.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Science teaches us to trust. - sw
 
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Steve Wilson

Guest
Steve Wilson <spam@me.com> wrote:

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
Helmut has run the group since inception. He is a very experienced
designer for LTspice models.

Was, unfortunately. He died last June. :(

That\'s why he has been so quiet lately.
That was stupid. I should have said his posts in groups.io and here in SED
are extremely valuable.

--
Science teaches us to trust. - sw
 
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boB

Guest
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:48:05 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:54:14 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com
wrote:

Has anyone got both the first *and* second editions of this book? Were
all the errors in the first edition fixed in the second? Is there any
new content in the second which would make it worth the bother to
order?

I don\'t know. The first and 2nd edition are 23 and 13 years old
respectively. Methinks you might do better with something more recent
(unless you\'re doing antique radios).

Free PDF download:

Microwave and RF Design (3rd Edition)
https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/handle/1840.20/36776
Fundamentals of Microwave and RF Design
Microwave and RF Design: Radio Systems, Volume 1
Microwave and RF Design: Transmission Lines, Volume 2
Microwave and RF Design: Networks, Volume 3
Microwave and RF Design: Modules, Volume 4
Microwave and RF Design: Amplifiers and Oscillators, Volume 5

There are questions at the end of each chapter to see if you\'ve been
paying attention. I haven\'t read every book cover to cover, but have
been selectively picking out bits and pieces as I need them. If the
books are too advanced for you, kindly disclose what problem you\'re
trying to solve and I\'ll try to find something more appropriate.
Great books ! Don\'t think I\'d seen that collection before.
 
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Cursitor Doom

Guest
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:48:05 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

I don\'t know. The first and 2nd edition are 23 and 13 years old
respectively. Methinks you might do better with something more recent
(unless you\'re doing antique radios).
Yeahbut the physics hasn\'t changed one iota, Jeff. The thing about
Bowick\'s book was he covered all the essentials in commendable detail
and didn\'t wander off on a tangent or go into unnecessary depth like
some other authors. For such a slim volume he packed in all the stuff
I wanted to know. Just a shame there were so many errors in it.
Thanks for the links, though; I\'ll check \'em out.
 
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Sjouke Burry

Guest
On 22.11.20 2:28, Steve Wilson wrote:
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

Free PDF download:

Microwave and RF Design (3rd Edition)
https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/handle/1840.20/36776
Fundamentals of Microwave and RF Design
Microwave and RF Design: Radio Systems, Volume 1
Microwave and RF Design: Transmission Lines, Volume 2
Microwave and RF Design: Networks, Volume 3
Microwave and RF Design: Modules, Volume 4
Microwave and RF Design: Amplifiers and Oscillators, Volume 5

I click on the links but I doesn\'t get no downloads.
cut
works fine for me.
 
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Jim MacArthur

Guest
Adding a vote for Lee\'s \"Planar Microwave Engineering\" Not comprehensive, but topics covered are covered well. And it certainly covers quite a bit more than the title suggests.
 
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Jeff Liebermann

Guest
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 01:28:16 GMT, Steve Wilson <spam@me.com> wrote:

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

Free PDF download:

Microwave and RF Design (3rd Edition)
https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/handle/1840.20/36776
Fundamentals of Microwave and RF Design
Microwave and RF Design: Radio Systems, Volume 1
Microwave and RF Design: Transmission Lines, Volume 2
Microwave and RF Design: Networks, Volume 3
Microwave and RF Design: Modules, Volume 4
Microwave and RF Design: Amplifiers and Oscillators, Volume 5

I click on the links but I doesn\'t get no downloads.
The DOI links don\'t work. Scroll further down the page to the links
under \"Files in this item\". They all work. Click on the PDF\'s to
download.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
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Jeff Liebermann

Guest
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 21:59:56 -0800, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:48:05 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:54:14 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com
wrote:

Has anyone got both the first *and* second editions of this book? Were
all the errors in the first edition fixed in the second? Is there any
new content in the second which would make it worth the bother to
order?

I don\'t know. The first and 2nd edition are 23 and 13 years old
respectively. Methinks you might do better with something more recent
(unless you\'re doing antique radios).

Free PDF download:

Microwave and RF Design (3rd Edition)
https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/handle/1840.20/36776
Fundamentals of Microwave and RF Design
Microwave and RF Design: Radio Systems, Volume 1
Microwave and RF Design: Transmission Lines, Volume 2
Microwave and RF Design: Networks, Volume 3
Microwave and RF Design: Modules, Volume 4
Microwave and RF Design: Amplifiers and Oscillators, Volume 5

There are questions at the end of each chapter to see if you\'ve been
paying attention. I haven\'t read every book cover to cover, but have
been selectively picking out bits and pieces as I need them. If the
books are too advanced for you, kindly disclose what problem you\'re
trying to solve and I\'ll try to find something more appropriate.


Great books ! Don\'t think I\'d seen that collection before.
That\'s because they were recently published in Sept 2019. Fame and
fortune take some time to arrive. They\'re also college text books,
which don\'t get much general publicity by the publishers. However,
this might be an exception. The six books are available in paperback:
<https://uncpress.org/search-results/?keyword=Micheal+Steer>
Approximately $14 in paperback for each book.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
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Jeff Liebermann

Guest
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 10:53:25 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:48:05 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:

I don\'t know. The first and 2nd edition are 23 and 13 years old
respectively. Methinks you might do better with something more recent
(unless you\'re doing antique radios).

Yeahbut the physics hasn\'t changed one iota, Jeff.
Physics, RF Design, components, materials, structures, devices, tools
and computah modeling and simulation have changed a great deal in the
past 23 years. Certainly, the fundamentals of RF design haven\'t
changed much making the older books still quite useful. However, it
doesn\'t hurt to start with something up to date instead of something
that has a 23 year old black hole in current advances.

The thing about
Bowick\'s book was he covered all the essentials in commendable detail
and didn\'t wander off on a tangent or go into unnecessary depth like
some other authors.
Ok. So, skim or read the fundamentals book I listed and ignore the
rest for now:
<https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/bitstream/handle/1840.20/36776/Fund_RFDesign.pdf?sequence=28&isAllowed=y>
If it\'s not what you want, kindly provide some clues as to what you
are looking for.

For such a slim volume he packed in all the stuff
I wanted to know.
I like books with lots of examples. Generally, that means 3 examples
per major point. One simple example to illustrate the basic concepts.
One practical example to show it can be useful. One messy example to
show the power of what can be done. When shrinking a book, the
examples are usually the first to disappear. The fundamentals book
has only 59 examples, which is marginal for a 245 page book. However,
for college text books, 11 chapters, with 24 exercises per chapter,
substitutes for the missing examples. Learn by doing the examples.

Just a shame there were so many errors in it.
Thanks for the links, though; I\'ll check \'em out.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
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Jeff Liebermann

Guest
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:56:08 -0500, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 11/21/20 7:48 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:54:14 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com
wrote:

Has anyone got both the first *and* second editions of this book? Were
all the errors in the first edition fixed in the second? Is there any
new content in the second which would make it worth the bother to
order?

I don\'t know. The first and 2nd edition are 23 and 13 years old
respectively. Methinks you might do better with something more recent
(unless you\'re doing antique radios).

Well, Smith charts are pretty old too. ;)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Paper Smith Charts are fairly old, but online versions are fairly new.
It\'s much more interesting to use an interactive computer program to
see what happens on the Smith Chart when components and transmission
lines are added or changed. For example:
<https://www.will-kelsey.com/smith_chart/>
<https://www.microwaves101.com/smith-chart/smith-chart-tool-v1>
<http://cgi.www.telestrian.co.uk/cgi-bin/www.telestrian.co.uk/smiths.pl>
<https://quicksmith.online>
etc... a 13 or 23 year old book will likely not have any mention of
using a computah version of the Smith Chart.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
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boB

Guest
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 12:08:37 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 21:59:56 -0800, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:48:05 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:54:14 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com
wrote:

Has anyone got both the first *and* second editions of this book? Were
all the errors in the first edition fixed in the second? Is there any
new content in the second which would make it worth the bother to
order?

I don\'t know. The first and 2nd edition are 23 and 13 years old
respectively. Methinks you might do better with something more recent
(unless you\'re doing antique radios).

Free PDF download:

Microwave and RF Design (3rd Edition)
https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/handle/1840.20/36776
Fundamentals of Microwave and RF Design
Microwave and RF Design: Radio Systems, Volume 1
Microwave and RF Design: Transmission Lines, Volume 2
Microwave and RF Design: Networks, Volume 3
Microwave and RF Design: Modules, Volume 4
Microwave and RF Design: Amplifiers and Oscillators, Volume 5

There are questions at the end of each chapter to see if you\'ve been
paying attention. I haven\'t read every book cover to cover, but have
been selectively picking out bits and pieces as I need them. If the
books are too advanced for you, kindly disclose what problem you\'re
trying to solve and I\'ll try to find something more appropriate.


Great books ! Don\'t think I\'d seen that collection before.

That\'s because they were recently published in Sept 2019. Fame and
fortune take some time to arrive. They\'re also college text books,
which don\'t get much general publicity by the publishers. However,
this might be an exception. The six books are available in paperback:
https://uncpress.org/search-results/?keyword=Micheal+Steer
Approximately $14 in paperback for each book.
Not bad ! My problem is space... space... space......

I do buy books online sometimes too in PDF form as well as printed
sometimes though.

Trying to downsize. I can\'t throw away or recycle good material that I
\"might\" need to look at some day :)
 
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Cursitor Doom

Guest
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 12:26:24 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

Physics, RF Design, components, materials, structures, devices, tools
and computah modeling and simulation have changed a great deal in the
past 23 years. Certainly, the fundamentals of RF design haven\'t
changed much making the older books still quite useful. However, it
doesn\'t hurt to start with something up to date instead of something
that has a 23 year old black hole in current advances.
That\'s not so much of an issue for me as I\'ve always been more
interested in the theory side of the subject, and the theory was
pretty much nailed down 100 years ago. Consequently, all the books I
have in my collection here are (to my mind anyway) \"up to date\" in a
manner of speaking. :)

Ok. So, skim or read the fundamentals book I listed and ignore the
rest for now:
https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/bitstream/handle/1840.20/36776/Fund_RFDesign.pdf?sequence=28&isAllowed=y
If it\'s not what you want, kindly provide some clues as to what you
are looking for.
Not at all, Jeffrey. I\'ve downloaded *all* the links you kindly
provided and there is *much* on first inspection that is right up my
street in those books. Good steer!

I like books with lots of examples. Generally, that means 3 examples
per major point. One simple example to illustrate the basic concepts.
One practical example to show it can be useful. One messy example to
show the power of what can be done. When shrinking a book, the
examples are usually the first to disappear. The fundamentals book
has only 59 examples, which is marginal for a 245 page book. However,
for college text books, 11 chapters, with 24 exercises per chapter,
substitutes for the missing examples. Learn by doing the examples.
+1 Yes, I fully agree. My only reservation is I do prefer physical
*books* rather than PDFs on a screen. But I have to be realistic and
the benefits of the virtual sources outweigh the drawbacks by orders
of magnitude. Thanks again for your help here.
 
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Jeff Liebermann

Guest
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 12:42:21 -0800, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

Not bad ! My problem is space... space... space......

I do buy books online sometimes too in PDF form as well as printed
sometimes though.

Trying to downsize. I can\'t throw away or recycle good material that I
\"might\" need to look at some day :)
Try this exercise. Pick an \"important\" book at random from your shelf
and search the interknot for a free scanned or PDF version of the
book. If you can\'t find those, search for an eBook version in one of
the more common formats. My guess(tm) is that I can find about 75% of
what is on my bookshelf. The nice thing about the electronic versions
is that I can usually search the text for buzzwords. For printed
books, I have to use an index or table of contents. The problem with
scanned books is that the pictures and graphs all look like garbage.

Like everyone else who has spent a lifetime collecting reference
books, recycling them is painful. I\'ve tried to donate them to worthy
organizations, give them away on Freecycle.org, sell them for the cost
of shipping on eBay and Craigs List, and donate them to the local
charities. Nobody want old technical books. So far, I\'ve had the
best luck leaving them in a \"free\" box in front of my office door to
be grabbed by the homeless and possibly university students.

I\'m also trying to downsize. I look online for the book to buy or
downloads. After I determine that the downloaded book is adequate,
the original book disappears from my shelves.

Incidentally, I used to collect technical books from between the start
of WWI and the end of WWII. It\'s not a huge collection, but it does
make interesting reading. Many of the de facto standards used in
today\'s electronics were established during this time. These will be
the last books to be purged from my shelves.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
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Jeff Liebermann

Guest
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 23:03:52 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 12:26:24 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:

Physics, RF Design, components, materials, structures, devices, tools
and computah modeling and simulation have changed a great deal in the
past 23 years. Certainly, the fundamentals of RF design haven\'t
changed much making the older books still quite useful. However, it
doesn\'t hurt to start with something up to date instead of something
that has a 23 year old black hole in current advances.

That\'s not so much of an issue for me as I\'ve always been more
interested in the theory side of the subject, and the theory was
pretty much nailed down 100 years ago. Consequently, all the books I
have in my collection here are (to my mind anyway) \"up to date\" in a
manner of speaking. :)
I think you\'ll find it difficult finding anything in a 23 year old
book that includes RF applications for MEMS devices, SAW filters,
phased arrays, digital broadcasting, 3rd and 4th generation cellular,
characteristics of modern plastic materials, Wi-Fi, SiC and GaN high
temp devices, GHz switching devices, software define radio,
computerized RF test equipment, 77 GHz automotive radar, all digital
AM/FM/SW/TV receivers, high density data transmission, etc. All these
has some connection to the distant past, but you\'ll have some
difficulty finding that connection.

Ok. So, skim or read the fundamentals book I listed and ignore the
rest for now:
https://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/bitstream/handle/1840.20/36776/Fund_RFDesign.pdf?sequence=28&isAllowed=y
If it\'s not what you want, kindly provide some clues as to what you
are looking for.

Not at all, Jeffrey. I\'ve downloaded *all* the links you kindly
provided and there is *much* on first inspection that is right up my
street in those books. Good steer!
Actually, some (actually most) of the math went over my head.

I like books with lots of examples. Generally, that means 3 examples
per major point. One simple example to illustrate the basic concepts.
One practical example to show it can be useful. One messy example to
show the power of what can be done. When shrinking a book, the
examples are usually the first to disappear. The fundamentals book
has only 59 examples, which is marginal for a 245 page book. However,
for college text books, 11 chapters, with 24 exercises per chapter,
substitutes for the missing examples. Learn by doing the examples.
Oops. That should be \"Learn by doing the exercises\".

+1 Yes, I fully agree. My only reservation is I do prefer physical
*books* rather than PDFs on a screen. But I have to be realistic and
the benefits of the virtual sources outweigh the drawbacks by orders
of magnitude. Thanks again for your help here.
Yep. The ability to do keyword searches is a big plus for PDF\'s and
eBooks. The downside is that since electronic media bypasses all of
the obstacles of producing a printed book, it\'s so much easier for
anyone to self publish an electronic book. Of course, everyone is
doing exactly that. As a result, I\'m now faced with a hard disk full
of documents, instead of a wall of books (or a giant pile of bankers
boxes full of books). Too many books is as bad as too few books.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
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Bill Sloman

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On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 1:07:47 PM UTC+11, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 23:03:52 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@noreply.com
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 12:26:24 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com
wrote:
<snip>

Yep. The ability to do keyword searches is a big plus for PDF\'s and
eBooks. The downside is that since electronic media bypasses all of
the obstacles of producing a printed book, it\'s so much easier for
anyone to self publish an electronic book. Of course, everyone is
doing exactly that. As a result, I\'m now faced with a hard disk full
of documents, instead of a wall of books (or a giant pile of bankers
boxes full of books). Too many books is as bad as too few books.
Not true. You do have to learn how to get at the good books, and how to reject the bad ones fast.

It\'s much the same skill as I got taught when I getting mu Ph.D. where it was officially called \"reading the literature critically\", which in practice meant meant recognising the incompetent rubbish rapidly, and only reading enough of the pot-boilers to recognise that they didn\'t have anything new or interesting to say.

I\'m not sure if I\'m particularly good at it - I am enthusiastic about going after incompetent rubbish, and I\'ve published more critical comments in the peer-reviewed literature than original contributions - but I\'m not too bad.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
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