Remote alarm and dialer?

[DaveC]

Water district in remote location requires that the sewage system on
commercial property (resort) have alarm for equipment failure and be able to
dial a phone number (the property's manager) so to alert him. If this person
cannot be reached (ie, respond with a touchtone keypress, or such), a second
number must be dialed.

Commercial concerns are estimating $5000 for this setup. The sensor and such
should be straightforward (float level sensor and/or current flow failure
sensor). What is involved in getting an automated telephone dialing alert
system set up?

Are there such turnkey systems available?

Thanks,
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[John Fields]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:11:36 -0700, DaveC <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Water district in remote location requires that the sewage system on
commercial property (resort) have alarm for equipment failure and be able to
dial a phone number (the property's manager) so to alert him. If this person
cannot be reached (ie, respond with a touchtone keypress, or such), a second
number must be dialed.

Commercial concerns are estimating $5000 for this setup. The sensor and such
should be straightforward (float level sensor and/or current flow failure
sensor). What is involved in getting an automated telephone dialing alert
system set up?

Are there such turnkey systems available?

---
I can build you one.

Email me if you're interested.

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[Abacus-Ri]

I'm already have one, working with PLC SIEMENS.

Contact me if you need more information.
Rgds,
Damir


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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:11:36 -0700, DaveC <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Water district in remote location requires that the sewage system on
commercial property (resort) have alarm for equipment failure and be able
to
dial a phone number (the property's manager) so to alert him. If this
person
cannot be reached (ie, respond with a touchtone keypress, or such), a
second
number must be dialed.

Commercial concerns are estimating $5000 for this setup. The sensor and
such
should be straightforward (float level sensor and/or current flow failure
sensor). What is involved in getting an automated telephone dialing alert
system set up?

Are there such turnkey systems available?

---
I can build you one.

Email me if you're interested.

--
John Fields

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:11:36 -0700, DaveC <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Water district in remote location requires that the sewage system on
commercial property (resort) have alarm for equipment failure and be able to
dial a phone number (the property's manager) so to alert him. If this person
cannot be reached (ie, respond with a touchtone keypress, or such), a second
number must be dialed.

Commercial concerns are estimating $5000 for this setup. The sensor and such
should be straightforward (float level sensor and/or current flow failure
sensor). What is involved in getting an automated telephone dialing alert
system set up?

Are there such turnkey systems available?

Thanks,

Check with the major paging companies. I know that my oldest son
wrote software (for numerous different banks) that pages service
people when ATM's run out of money ;-) This can be set up as a
wireless link or by telephone.

...Jim Thompson
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[Tam/WB2TT]

"DaveC" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Water district in remote location requires that the sewage system on
commercial property (resort) have alarm for equipment failure and be able
to
dial a phone number (the property's manager) so to alert him. If this
person
cannot be reached (ie, respond with a touchtone keypress, or such), a
second
number must be dialed.

Commercial concerns are estimating $5000 for this setup. The sensor and
such
should be straightforward (float level sensor and/or current flow failure
sensor). What is involved in getting an automated telephone dialing alert
system set up?

Are there such turnkey systems available?

Thanks,
--
DaveC
me@privacy.net
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Dave,

An outfit name ADEMCO seems to have the corner on home fire/burglar alarm
systems. They can't cost $500, or even $500. you can trip the alarm with
either a switch closure, or switch opening. They sell these to people like
Sentry and ADT. Don't know if there is a capability of dialing an alternate
number.

Then there is the "I have fallen down, and can't get up" type of system for
about $100. You could get two, one for each number. RS used to sell these.

Tam

 

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"DaveC" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Water district in remote location requires that the sewage system on
commercial property (resort) have alarm for equipment failure and be able
to
dial a phone number (the property's manager) so to alert him. If this
person
cannot be reached (ie, respond with a touchtone keypress, or such), a
second
number must be dialed.

Commercial concerns are estimating $5000 for this setup. The sensor and
such
should be straightforward (float level sensor and/or current flow failure
sensor). What is involved in getting an automated telephone dialing alert
system set up?

Are there such turnkey systems available?

$5K? Someone's trying to take you for a ride. See
http://www.sensaphone.com . Nice units. I suspect X10 systems would allow
you to do this as well.

ObAnecdote: We had one of these in a data center years ago (Radio Shack used
to sell them). It would usually go off because the A/C had failed, the
power was out, or -- most often -- because someone left the cover open on
the impact printer (kids, an "impact printer" is what we USED to use for
making marks on paper...). In the last case, the robot (as we called it)
would start making calls, and would usually reach me at home (I worked the
late shift). I'd pick up and it would say, "This is telephone number 7 0 3
n n x x x x x, the noise level is high, listen to the noise level for 15
seconds" and switch on its external mic. By that point, the folks in the
room had usually noticed the machine dialing, and so what you'd hear is
someone saying, "What's that?" "****, we set the robot off again..." and
suchlike. But that's not the real anecdote.

The robot was on the only analog phone in the place (for obvious reasons).
But that phone -- unlisted, or at least unpublished -- would ring several
times a day, far too often for random wrong numbers. Since it was stuck on
a wall behind the mainframe, we never managed to pick it up in time, but
always wondered.

Then one night, be 3AM, I was driving home and heard an ad for a suicide
hotline. I almost drove off the road when the ad said the number: 301
nnx-xxxx: the same number in the adjacent metro area code! So here's some
poor bastard at the end of his rope, manages to dial the number but in the
wrong area code, and gets a robot saying, "This is telephone number 7 0 3 n
n x x x x x. The temperature is OK. The power is OK. The noise level is
OK ..."

As one wag put it, "At least it wasn't Nike headquarters, saying 'Just do
it!'"

....phsiii

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Water district in remote location requires that the sewage system on
commercial property (resort) ....

Operative idea here is local district *requirement*- not something to be
rigged up an amateur like you- stay the hell away from it.

 

[danny burstein]

In <eOBzc.3124$ey.2595@fed1read06> "Remove dots from userid to reply" <p.h.s.3@watdcs.uwaterloo.ca> writes:

power was out, or -- most often -- because someone left the cover open on
the impact printer (kids, an "impact printer" is what we USED to use for
making marks on paper...).

Youngster. Ptfui. We used chisels and cuiniform.
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Youngster. Ptfui. We used chisels and cuiniform.

And I bet THAT would sure set the robot off!!!!

....phsiii

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:16:16 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein
<dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

In <eOBzc.3124$ey.2595@fed1read06> "Remove dots from userid to reply" <p.h.s.3@watdcs.uwaterloo.ca> writes:

power was out, or -- most often -- because someone left the cover open on
the impact printer (kids, an "impact printer" is what we USED to use for
making marks on paper...).

Youngster. Ptfui. We used chisels and cuiniform.

---
'Cuneiform' was written by pressing a stylus into soft clay and then
baking the clay tablets to harden them. Good thing too... it'd be
pretty hard to erase "cuiniform" and re-spell it properly if it was
chiseled in stone, no?^)

--
John Fields

 

[danny burstein]

In <u8duc0taubr802uadmkt08drdjk1oagph7@4ax.com> John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> writes:

Youngster. Ptfui. We used chisels and cuiniform.

'Cuneiform' was written by pressing a stylus into soft clay and then
baking the clay tablets to harden them. Good thing too... it'd be
pretty hard to erase "cuiniform" and re-spell it properly if it was
chiseled in stone, no?^)

Ah, you were in a "right to work" cave. Ours was a "union shop", hence all
the extra make-work rules. [a]


[a] explanation for the non usofa'ers: most labor/mgt
regulation in the US is handled on a local level, that
is, by the 50 States. In some the unions have the power
to insist that all workers in a business sign up, as
a condition of employment, with the union.

In others, so-called "right to work" states, the unions
don't have that clout.

(the "right to work" states are called "right-to-starve"
ones by the union folk. I'm sure there are similar, if
opposite, terms used hte other way around)

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[J. Yazel]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:11:36 -0700, DaveC <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Water district in remote location requires that the sewage system on
commercial property (resort) have alarm for equipment failure and be able to
dial a phone number (the property's manager) so to alert him. If this person
cannot be reached (ie, respond with a touchtone keypress, or such), a second
number must be dialed.

Commercial concerns are estimating $5000 for this setup. The sensor and such
should be straightforward (float level sensor and/or current flow failure
sensor). What is involved in getting an automated telephone dialing alert
system set up?

Are there such turnkey systems available?

Thanks,
=========================================

Radio Shack has a home security system that sounds like it would fill your
need. It has an automatic telephone dialler. The only thing that you would
have to do is to mechanically connect one of the door sensors to a float.

It costs $150 for the complete system.

I've been using it for quite a while and it works great.

I am guessing that it will do what you want. It is up to you to check it
out.

Jack

 

[Bob Thomas]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 09:11:36 -0700, DaveC <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Water district in remote location requires that the sewage system on
commercial property (resort) have alarm for equipment failure and be able to
dial a phone number (the property's manager) so to alert him. If this person
cannot be reached (ie, respond with a touchtone keypress, or such), a second
number must be dialed.

Commercial concerns are estimating $5000 for this setup. The sensor and such
should be straightforward (float level sensor and/or current flow failure
sensor). What is involved in getting an automated telephone dialing alert
system set up?

Are there such turnkey systems available?

Thanks,

Check out www.x10.com you can cobble something together for a lot less
than $5,000 bucks. X10 makes a security system that when tripped
allows a prerecorded message (you record) to be sent. It will call up
to 4 number and keep trying until it gets one and the message is
acknowledged. The unit goes for under 100 bucks and is wireless and/or
can using house wiring for it's units. They have a lot of wireless
stuff, but if the equipment is on the same primary power feed as the
house, then X10 will talk over the power wires, no RF, and no extra
wires to run.

X10 and X10 3 rd party vendors make every kind of sensor you can think
of and if one does not exist, X10 has a "dry contact" monitor that you
can hook anything to for a NC or NO alarm condition. Sensor units
generally run 50 - 100 bucks each depending on what they need to do.

Depending on the distance from your equipment to be monitored and the
nearest phone line with be the last step. If it is a few hundred feet
then the X10 RF stuff will send the alarm to a master under that might
be in your house. If it is a long distance you can run wire or get X10
repeaters, but that would likely not be possible.

Try to have as little exposed to the equipment or weather as possible,
or your costs will go way up on weather proof boxes and hardened
parts.

That is about as turnkey is at is likely to get, you can check our
smarthome also, and there are lots of auto-dialer systems out there in
the under 100 buck range that can be triggered various ways. I only
suggested X10 because between X10 and 3rd party X10 parts you can
probably do this for a few hundred bucks tops in a very easy to
install and use manner.

 

[the Wiz]

DaveC <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Water district in remote location requires that the sewage system on
commercial property (resort) have alarm for equipment failure and be able to
dial a phone number (the property's manager) so to alert him. If this person
cannot be reached (ie, respond with a touchtone keypress, or such), a second
number must be dialed.

Commercial concerns are estimating $5000 for this setup. The sensor and such
should be straightforward (float level sensor and/or current flow failure
sensor). What is involved in getting an automated telephone dialing alert
system set up?

Are there such turnkey systems available?

Thanks,

The X10 home security system can dial 4 numbers to report intrusion. The entry
sensors are battery powered and use an RF link to the alarm control unit, which
is AC powered with a battery backup.
The base system comes with two sensors and is $100 at www.x10.com - and it's
frequently on sale for $65.

You could pay my expenses to fly there from Georgia, install and test this
system, provide a full set of spares - and not come close to $5000 ;-)

If you would rather have "commercial looking" equipment, someone else mentioned
Ademco. They were in the business for a long time - I installed some wired
alarm systems in 1972/3 using a combination of Ademco and custom hardware.
Their web address now takes you to Honeywell security -
http://www.security.honeywell.com/sce - which is mostly access control.

You might find this device to be what you're looking for:
http://www.smarthome.com/7435.html
It has 4 input channels (monitors 4 different things), dials up to 8 numbers,
delivers a voice message which can be stopped by a touchtone code, and can send
digits to a pager. It's $210 and the power supply + backup battery is another
$70.

If you want to discuss this further, use the link in my signature to send email.

John

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Email here: http://www.jecarter.com/contactme.htm

 

[Tam/WB2TT]

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----- Original Message -----
From: "the Wiz" <look@message.body>
......................................................

If you would rather have "commercial looking" equipment, someone else
mentioned
Ademco. They were in the business for a long time - I installed some
wired
alarm systems in 1972/3 using a combination of Ademco and custom hardware.
Their web address now takes you to Honeywell security -
http://www.security.honeywell.com/sce - which is mostly access control.
.....................................
I had mentioned ADEMCO. Should point out that there is a big difference in

operation. The ADEMCO systems I have seen contain, and talk to, a modem. He
seems to be looking for an audio system like what you are proposing.

Tam

 

[thegoons]

About $US1,550 over a CDMA network. Made in Australia, might need to talk
with CDMA provider to see if they can connect such a device:
http://www.datacall.net.au/


"DaveC" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Water district in remote location requires that the sewage system on
commercial property (resort) have alarm for equipment failure and be able
to
dial a phone number (the property's manager) so to alert him. If this
person
cannot be reached (ie, respond with a touchtone keypress, or such), a
second
number must be dialed.

Commercial concerns are estimating $5000 for this setup. The sensor and
such
should be straightforward (float level sensor and/or current flow failure
sensor). What is involved in getting an automated telephone dialing alert
system set up?

Are there such turnkey systems available?

Thanks,
--
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