REMINDER - eBay : FALSE & LIBELOUS NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.

Guest
Gidday All,
I again remind you thru this Posting of this dishonest
person who will not initiate a "retraction" AND eBay General Policy
allows his LIES to remain in the public Domain.


Warning : Beware of this eBay "client" !

eBay User : tj581

TONY TYTER : tonytj@telpacific.com.au

Rear Lane 225 Lambton Road
New Lambton NSW 2305, Australia
(02) 4956 1570


I recently sold 30 or so Items on eBay Au and eBay US.
This Buyer won a single Lot, was not happy with his purchase, blamed
me for HIS decision to Bid and then lodged FALSE & LIBELOUS Feedback
regarding no Tax Invoice being provided.

I'm in Business and consequently I'm obliged under Australian Taxation
Law to provide a Tax Invoice for ALL purchases over $50 value. I met
this obligation !!!

In a subsequent Email, this Buyer admitted his mistake because the Tax
Invoice had indeed been issued yet he refuses to withdraw/retract his
malicious Feedback !!

This Buyer is a LIAR !!!
He has lodged this FALSE & LIBELOUS Negative Feedback against me :

User: tj581(tonytj@telpacific.com.au)( 99)
Date: Apr-12-03 03:29:05 PDT
Item: 2517180459
Complaint: Bad attitude, poor service. Charges GST but gives no tax
inv. Who's he kidding?

eBay Customer Service .. offer me (the victim) no assistance...
hiding behind General Policy that effectively states they can and will
do nothing because the author is responsible for this Posting and only
HE can initiate a retraction/modification.

But wait - It get's worse !!

The punitive action taken by this Buyer in lodging FALSE and frivolous
Negative Feedback is now a PERMANENT slur against my name.
eBay will NOT REMOVE this report - even if a retraction is lodged.

eBay Policy permits "indeed it promotes" the abuse
of the Feedback mechanism by irresponsible individuals to the
detriment of other honest & sincere clients.
Consequently, any disgruntled Buyer/Seller can lodge a
FALSE and LIBELOUS Feedback against another party with total impunity
and the victim has no recourse to have this punitive record removed.
Even with a "retraction" the Negative Feedback statistic (multiple ?)
is PERMANENT - it's forever !!!!!!!!!

eBay's suggested course of action : make my Feedback "Private" !
Wow ! That's a great solution. Hide it... so people can ask why !!

What a farce - eBay !!!!!!

I've have been unfairly penalised by eBay "General Policy" AND the
idiots who abuse the weaknesses of their system.

May I suggest to sympathetic readers that the only way this punitive
process can be changed for the better is for "postive" Feedback be
forwarded to eBay Customer Service at their advertised Contact point
of : cswebform@ebay.com

In concluding this advisory, since this Buyer has chosen not to
retract.... and eBay offers me NO ASSISTANCE nor justice, I
reluctantly resort to warning others of both the Buyers dishonesty AND
eBay's pathetic and punitive Feedback policy as it affects honest
clients.

Beware - TONY TYTER : tonytj@telpacific.com.au
eBay User : tj581

Sincerely,

Alan Devlin.


RF RESALE... where Honesty & Integrity are paramount !
Melbourne, Australia.

WEB PAGE URL http://www.users.bigpond.com/alandevlin/index.html
 
alanNOTTHISdevlin@bigNOTTHISpond.com wrote:

Gidday All,
I again remind you thru this Posting of this dishonest
person who will not initiate a "retraction" AND eBay General Policy
allows his LIES to remain in the public Domain.


Warning : Beware of this eBay "client" !

eBay User : tj581

TONY TYTER : tonytj@telpacific.com.au

Rear Lane 225 Lambton Road
New Lambton NSW 2305, Australia
(02) 4956 1570


I recently sold 30 or so Items on eBay Au and eBay US.
This Buyer won a single Lot, was not happy with his purchase, blamed
me for HIS decision to Bid and then lodged FALSE & LIBELOUS Feedback
regarding no Tax Invoice being provided.

I'm in Business and consequently I'm obliged under Australian Taxation
Law to provide a Tax Invoice for ALL purchases over $50 value. I met
this obligation !!!

In a subsequent Email, this Buyer admitted his mistake because the Tax
Invoice had indeed been issued yet he refuses to withdraw/retract his
malicious Feedback !!

This Buyer is a LIAR !!!
He has lodged this FALSE & LIBELOUS Negative Feedback against me :

User: tj581(tonytj@telpacific.com.au)( 99)
Date: Apr-12-03 03:29:05 PDT
Item: 2517180459
Complaint: Bad attitude, poor service. Charges GST but gives no tax
inv. Who's he kidding?

eBay Customer Service .. offer me (the victim) no assistance...
hiding behind General Policy that effectively states they can and will
do nothing because the author is responsible for this Posting and only
HE can initiate a retraction/modification.

But wait - It get's worse !!

The punitive action taken by this Buyer in lodging FALSE and frivolous
Negative Feedback is now a PERMANENT slur against my name.
eBay will NOT REMOVE this report - even if a retraction is lodged.

eBay Policy permits "indeed it promotes" the abuse
of the Feedback mechanism by irresponsible individuals to the
detriment of other honest & sincere clients.
Consequently, any disgruntled Buyer/Seller can lodge a
FALSE and LIBELOUS Feedback against another party with total impunity
and the victim has no recourse to have this punitive record removed.
Even with a "retraction" the Negative Feedback statistic (multiple ?)
is PERMANENT - it's forever !!!!!!!!!

eBay's suggested course of action : make my Feedback "Private" !
Wow ! That's a great solution. Hide it... so people can ask why !!

What a farce - eBay !!!!!!

I've have been unfairly penalised by eBay "General Policy" AND the
idiots who abuse the weaknesses of their system.

May I suggest to sympathetic readers that the only way this punitive
process can be changed for the better is for "postive" Feedback be
forwarded to eBay Customer Service at their advertised Contact point
of : cswebform@ebay.com

In concluding this advisory, since this Buyer has chosen not to
retract.... and eBay offers me NO ASSISTANCE nor justice, I
reluctantly resort to warning others of both the Buyers dishonesty AND
eBay's pathetic and punitive Feedback policy as it affects honest
clients.

Beware - TONY TYTER : tonytj@telpacific.com.au
eBay User : tj581

Sincerely,

Alan Devlin.


RF RESALE... where Honesty & Integrity are paramount !
Melbourne, Australia.

WEB PAGE URL http://www.users.bigpond.com/alandevlin/index.html
Pays to leave eBay well alone, anyway. There will always be dissatisfied
customers in any business. You can't please everybody.

Doug.
Doug.
--
Registered Linux user No. 277548.
Linux: in a world without fences, who needs Gates?
 
Registered Linux user No. 277548.
Linux: in a world without fences, who needs Gates?
Us non-geek types like gates. So do those who have done both linux and MS
embedded systems.
 
I see you have not bothered to give him
Negative feedback,
So you must not be THAT worried about
it..
So stop griping about it, he's made a
mistake, go and get on with your life..
After all, he has only had 1 Negative
feedback from over 100 Positive ones,

Also Feedback cannot be withdrawn, Its
clearly Shown on all EBay's Pages re
feedback,
I use Ebay all the time and love it. and
if you do deal with customers, you know
YOU CANNOT PLEASE Everyone....
PS this is a Electronics Newsgroup, not
a Ebay Newsgroup, please keep to the
Subject matter of this group and post
your Problems in the Appropriate Group..


<alanNOTTHISdevlin@bigNOTTHISpond.com>
wrote in message
news:3f13a2cc.36519095@news-server...
Gidday All,
I again remind you
thru this Posting of this dishonest
person who will not initiate a
"retraction" AND eBay General Policy
allows his LIES to remain in the
public Domain.


Warning : Beware of this eBay "client"
!

eBay User : tj581

TONY TYTER : tonytj@telpacific.com.au

Rear Lane 225 Lambton Road
New Lambton NSW 2305, Australia
(02) 4956 1570


I recently sold 30 or so Items on eBay
Au and eBay US.
This Buyer won a single Lot, was not
happy with his purchase, blamed
me for HIS decision to Bid and then
lodged FALSE & LIBELOUS Feedback
regarding no Tax Invoice being
provided.

I'm in Business and consequently I'm
obliged under Australian Taxation
Law to provide a Tax Invoice for ALL
purchases over $50 value. I met
this obligation !!!

In a subsequent Email, this Buyer
admitted his mistake because the Tax
Invoice had indeed been issued yet he
refuses to withdraw/retract his
malicious Feedback !!

This Buyer is a LIAR !!!
He has lodged this FALSE & LIBELOUS
Negative Feedback against me :

User:
tj581(tonytj@telpacific.com.au)( 99)
Date: Apr-12-03 03:29:05 PDT
Item: 2517180459
Complaint: Bad attitude, poor
service. Charges GST but gives no tax
inv. Who's he kidding?

eBay Customer Service .. offer me (the
victim) no assistance...
hiding behind General Policy that
effectively states they can and will
do nothing because the author is
responsible for this Posting and only
HE can initiate a
retraction/modification.

But wait - It get's worse !!

The punitive action taken by this
Buyer in lodging FALSE and frivolous
Negative Feedback is now a PERMANENT
slur against my name.
eBay will NOT REMOVE this report -
even if a retraction is lodged.

eBay Policy permits "indeed it
promotes" the abuse
of the Feedback mechanism by
irresponsible individuals to the
detriment of other honest & sincere
clients.
Consequently, any disgruntled
Buyer/Seller can lodge a
FALSE and LIBELOUS Feedback against
another party with total impunity
and the victim has no recourse to have
this punitive record removed.
Even with a "retraction" the Negative
Feedback statistic (multiple ?)
is PERMANENT - it's forever !!!!!!!!!

eBay's suggested course of action :
make my Feedback "Private" !
Wow ! That's a great solution. Hide
it... so people can ask why !!

What a farce - eBay !!!!!!

I've have been unfairly penalised by
eBay "General Policy" AND the
idiots who abuse the weaknesses of
their system.

May I suggest to sympathetic readers
that the only way this punitive
process can be changed for the better
is for "postive" Feedback be
forwarded to eBay Customer Service at
their advertised Contact point
of : cswebform@ebay.com

In concluding this advisory, since
this Buyer has chosen not to
retract.... and eBay offers me NO
ASSISTANCE nor justice, I
reluctantly resort to warning others
of both the Buyers dishonesty AND
eBay's pathetic and punitive Feedback
policy as it affects honest
clients.

Beware - TONY TYTER :
tonytj@telpacific.com.au
eBay User : tj581

Sincerely,

Alan Devlin.


RF RESALE... where Honesty & Integrity
are paramount !
Melbourne, Australia.

WEB PAGE URL
http://www.users.bigpond.com/alandevlin/
index.html
 
Hi All,
just my 2 cents (not legal tender any more?)

Ebay do make it difficult to deal with problems in and with THEIR service.

A few days ago there was an 8753 network analyser on aus ebay. After 2
emails it was evident this item was fraudulent, it didnt exist. It took me
over an HOUR to find somewhere where I could email ebay.

They force you into these profroma complaints, none of which were correct to
report the item. By the time I found the right place to contact from the
item was gone, auction cancelled, removed from ebay site.

So guess what ? Not allowed to report on items no longer listed, so I cant
even tell em there was a fraudster, crickey !!

No matter, the fellow was pretty desperate to rip someone off, he had at
least 3 items in, so reported against one of the others.

As time goes by, ebay becomes more risky.

just my rounded up 5 cents worth, or is that rounded down to zero?

Greg

"Rheilly Phoull" <Rheilly@bigpond.com.au> wrote in message
news:bf0fn6$9jp9d$1@ID-151145.news.uni-berlin.de...
alanNOTTHISdevlin@bigNOTTHISpond.com> wrote in message
news:3f13a2cc.36519095@news-server...
Gidday All,
I again remind you thru this Posting of this dishonest
person who will not initiate a "retraction" AND eBay General Policy
allows his LIES to remain in the public Domain.


Warning : Beware of this eBay "client" !

eBay User : tj581

TONY TYTER : tonytj@telpacific.com.au

Rear Lane 225 Lambton Road
New Lambton NSW 2305, Australia
(02) 4956 1570


I recently sold 30 or so Items on eBay Au and eBay US.
This Buyer won a single Lot, was not happy with his purchase, blamed
me for HIS decision to Bid and then lodged FALSE & LIBELOUS Feedback
regarding no Tax Invoice being provided.

I'm in Business and consequently I'm obliged under Australian Taxation
Law to provide a Tax Invoice for ALL purchases over $50 value. I met
this obligation !!!

In a subsequent Email, this Buyer admitted his mistake because the Tax
Invoice had indeed been issued yet he refuses to withdraw/retract his
malicious Feedback !!

This Buyer is a LIAR !!!
He has lodged this FALSE & LIBELOUS Negative Feedback against me :

User: tj581(tonytj@telpacific.com.au)( 99)
Date: Apr-12-03 03:29:05 PDT
Item: 2517180459
Complaint: Bad attitude, poor service. Charges GST but gives no tax
inv. Who's he kidding?

eBay Customer Service .. offer me (the victim) no assistance...
hiding behind General Policy that effectively states they can and will
do nothing because the author is responsible for this Posting and only
HE can initiate a retraction/modification.

But wait - It get's worse !!

The punitive action taken by this Buyer in lodging FALSE and frivolous
Negative Feedback is now a PERMANENT slur against my name.
eBay will NOT REMOVE this report - even if a retraction is lodged.

eBay Policy permits "indeed it promotes" the abuse
of the Feedback mechanism by irresponsible individuals to the
detriment of other honest & sincere clients.
Consequently, any disgruntled Buyer/Seller can lodge a
FALSE and LIBELOUS Feedback against another party with total impunity
and the victim has no recourse to have this punitive record removed.
Even with a "retraction" the Negative Feedback statistic (multiple ?)
is PERMANENT - it's forever !!!!!!!!!

eBay's suggested course of action : make my Feedback "Private" !
Wow ! That's a great solution. Hide it... so people can ask why !!

What a farce - eBay !!!!!!

I've have been unfairly penalised by eBay "General Policy" AND the
idiots who abuse the weaknesses of their system.

May I suggest to sympathetic readers that the only way this punitive
process can be changed for the better is for "postive" Feedback be
forwarded to eBay Customer Service at their advertised Contact point
of : cswebform@ebay.com

In concluding this advisory, since this Buyer has chosen not to
retract.... and eBay offers me NO ASSISTANCE nor justice, I
reluctantly resort to warning others of both the Buyers dishonesty AND
eBay's pathetic and punitive Feedback policy as it affects honest
clients.

Beware - TONY TYTER : tonytj@telpacific.com.au
eBay User : tj581

Sincerely,

Alan Devlin.


RF RESALE... where Honesty & Integrity are paramount !
Melbourne, Australia.

WEB PAGE URL http://www.users.bigpond.com/alandevlin/index.html

That seems to be the way of Ebay. I reckon they are just in there for the
money and that their policies do indeed sanction and protect the growing
number of criminals and wierdos that are using it, much like pawnbrokers.


--
Regards ............... Rheilly Phoull
 
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:46:52 GMT, alanNOTTHISdevlin@bigNOTTHISpond.com
wrote:

Gidday All,
I again remind you thru this Posting of this dishonest
person who will not initiate a "retraction" AND eBay General Policy
allows his LIES to remain in the public Domain.


Warning : Beware of this eBay "client" !

eBay User : tj581

TONY TYTER : tonytj@telpacific.com.au

Rear Lane 225 Lambton Road
New Lambton NSW 2305, Australia
(02) 4956 1570


I recently sold 30 or so Items on eBay Au and eBay US.
This Buyer won a single Lot, was not happy with his purchase, blamed
me for HIS decision to Bid and then lodged FALSE & LIBELOUS Feedback
regarding no Tax Invoice being provided.
----------------

Unfortunately - this sort of thing is a fact of life. The only person
who ever totally avoids criticism about things is someone who doesn't
actually do anything.


I recently was screwed out of about $40 and as a bonus copped my first
negative by what I can only describe as a crooked little turd, who
immediately relisted the item (stepdown transformer) and sold to
someone else - while keeping my payment - so you got off lightly with
this one. As a further bonus - he responded to my email about this
referring to me as a "nutcase" and referring to discuss further, or
return my payment.

The other 60+ deals I had done though have been great - have got some
excellent deals on electronic components amongst other things - so
shit like this unfortunately is a fact of life, the nature of the Ebay
way of doing business and something you just have to factor into your
dealings on there.

Actually - if you look at his feedback ABOUT others - you will see
that he is pretty generous at dishing out complaints too.

Anyway - what you should do IMMEDIATELY is leave HIM a negative - and
respond to his negative feedback about you with your side of the
story. If you DONT do this - you are failing to warn others of your
bad dealings and letting him get away with it.

By being silent over this - it also makes you look wrong and him right
in my eyes and no doubt in the eyes of others.
 

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